This isn't insightful, it's just nasty to both Arabs and Irish people.
Just to set the record straight, I'm Arab and Muslim. When I said "here", I was referencing to/. not Ireland. That remark, sadly seem to make consensus.
If you don't see the west's double standards in treating Jews and Arabs let me refresh you memory; People get sent to jail for challenging the accuracy of the Holocaust figures, yet freedom of speech in invoked everytime someone gratuitousely insults the prophet Mohammed and his teachings. Israel gets away with a stockpile of nukes but no Arab country could dream of being allowed to develop them. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we should question how many people died in the Holocaust or allow for proliferation of WMDs. I'm merely pointing out the things Jews get away with.
To quote Henry Kissinger: "a people who have been persecuted for 2000 years must be doing something wrong."
Kissinger is Jewish himself.
So, I've trained myself out of remembering phrases or numbers for that few seconds it takes to flip screens and type. Instead, I have to copy/paste when using one screen - which takes more time than glancing at one screen and typing in the other.
Double-clicking on what you wanna copy, plus middle-click to copy would surely be a lot faster than reading and typing (and it avoids typos!).
Just my 2cts.
You cannot support a domestic activist state, and at the same time be against foreign militarism. You either support limited government, or you support Empire.
I never saw things from that perspective! I'd be grateful if you could point me to any literature on that "inextricable link" between domestic and foreign policy.
For the record, I'm proudly non American and my comment is not linked to either Democrats or Republicans; It's about an imperial power that seem to be repeating history.
The Space Command released plans to go beyond U.S. "control" of space for military purposes to "ownership," which is to be permanent, in accord with the Security Strategy. Ownership of space is "key to our nation's military effectiveness," permitting "instant engagement anywhere in the world. . . . A viable prompt global strike capability, whether nuclear or non-nuclear, will allow the United States to rapidly strike high-payoff, difficult-to-defeat targets from stand-off ranges and produce the desired effect . . . [and] to provide warfighting commanders the ability to rapidly deny, delay, deceive, disrupt, destroy, exploit and neutralize targets in hours/minutes rather than weeks/days even when U.S. and allied forces have a limited forward presence,"6 thus reducing the need for overseas bases that regularly arouse local antagonism.
Bob, we've got to fight them there, in Botswana, so we don't have to fight them here! Yee. Haw.
"For perhaps many a person will ask himself the question, why are we fighting at such great distances? We are fighting at such great distances in order to protect our homeland, in order to keep the war as far removed from it as possible . . . . It is therefore preferable to keep the front line at a distance of 1,000 and if necessary 2,000 kilometers from the borders of the Reich, than to hold that front somewhere near the border of the Reich and to be forced to hold it there."
An excerpt from "Wealth of nations" by the father of capitalistic economics, Adam Smith.
"Wherever there is great property, there is great inequality. For one very rich man, there must be at least five hundred of the poor, and the affluence of the few supposes the indigence of the many. [. ..] It is only under the shelter of the civil magistrate [read, the police] that the owner of that valuable property, which is acquired by the labor of many years, or perhaps of many successive generations, can sleep a single night in security."
In the meantime, all a phone needs for me to be happy is those little number thingies, a send button, and an alarm. And I'll certainly not be paying $600 for it.
What is it exactly that Arabs want that Israel will not give them?
I believe that the Israel-Palestine conflict has close to no chances of being resolved anytime soon. That's because of the deeply rooted hatred of the other side on both camps. That's understandable given the generations of people who suffered, but that you already knew.
I apologize if I offended you in any way when suggesting that you broaden your sources but I can't understand how people can ignore 60 years of evidence. Arabs got cocky and gave a real hard time to Israelis from the start. But after humiliating defeats, they learned the lesson. If after reading this detailed account of the origins of the conflict, you still believe Israel's acting in good faith then you need some help http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html. This is an "accepted work" compiled by Jews. Also, try to get the "50 years war" video from PBS. I'd be grateful if you could point me to any serious work that could help me grasp your point of view.
And good luck in your struggle. Maybe some day you can be free and less tolerant of other people's cowardice and determination to live by the sword.
Thanks. The only thing I was trying to do is to demonstrate that if the US distances itself from Israel, it'd be better for mankind as a whole. And in that, I failed miserably. I promise you to try being less tolerant of other people's cowardice and wish I could one day look back and say that I did what I could to make Earth a better place. Is it just a passing youth phase or a lifetime commitment? Time will tell.
Could you give specific examples of intervention that you speak of?
I'll just give you the most notorious ones: Nicaragua, The Congo, Cambodia, Argentine, Chile, Guatemala, Iran, Iraq... Tens of thousands of people died.
Should we turn our back on a legally founded country because the people who sold or evacuated the land in the hopes of fighting to gain it back say so?
You seem to be the only country in the world who thinks that. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usv etoes.html
So, from your perspective, the whole world is trying to throw the Jews into the sea and the US is the good guy who protects poor Israel. It's not like they have nuclear capabilities or anything.
Seriously though, Israel being in danger is a myth. Arab's been trying to get peace since the early 70's but radical Israelis always had their way. Please take the time to read some of the alternative press for a few weeks, you could learn something.
Or are you suggesting that Hezbollah is really the true military wing of Lebanon.
Again, prior to the last war, the US was the only country in the world to consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization.
Actually, the hope should not come from proxies or rebels but from the people themselves.
Granted, you have a point here. Still, when you lived under an oppresive regime and seen the horrific things that happen to people who oppose it, you begin to overlook the cowardice of your fellow citizens. Such things as civil disobedience cost lives in there.
Good plan. Let's see how this works out. I'm betting about as well as it did for the Germans and Japanese, though.
I'm not saying it'll have an effect on anything. If I did, I'd have been one of them. I'm merely trying to show you why it happens: Because they're dumbasses and have no other alternative.
Granted, the US is moderately socialist, however, one segment of society living off another segment of society is ripe for abuse and societal strife.
I'd agree with that statement conditionaly... "one segment of society living exuberantly off another segment's tears and blood is ripe for abuse and societal strife"
Lucky you.
I probably didn't convey my point there. I was trying to say that I never visited Cuba or a similar country, but I see everyday the advantages socialism brings to Sweden (been there for a couple of years now). I also had long hearted discussions with people who lived on the "other" side of the Berlin wall, and the majority says it was better before the wall came down.
In the United States, they call those folks 'Democrats'.
I'd never have guessed which side you're on!
I can understand the ignorance (or bliss) of Americas such as yourself from accepting the truth and not some distorted version. All kidding aside, I most sincerely empathize
since I read the US media everyday and I can clearly see why you would be cut from reality. I'll reiterate my advice to you: read some alternative media. Do it just for the laughs since you seem to be really convinced of your principles. Whatcha gotta loose? The worst scenario is that you'd end up with a broader perspective on things.
Try this for a start http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm
Does the "Arab street" really believe the average American is dumb enough to believe that line of shit?
Correction; The "Arab street" constates that the average American dumb enough to tacitly support Bush's policy. Wake up buddy! America lost all credibility on the world scene since you guys allowed a guy like that to take power.
What I said is merely the truth. I never expected you would assimilate it. There is extensive evidence that the American government has been setting up dictatorships around the world. Until you figure out that supporting an illegitimate government so that it'd serve your interests is ultimately less beneficial than everybody living in peace and harmony (or at least trying).
When you vote for suicide bombers, I'll vote for those who support nuking your country.
I never said I'd vote for suicide bombers. What I tried to explain is that since there is no way for Islamists to take power, some of them show their frustration by blowing up innocents. Now, if you think nukes are a proportionate response to the sporadic attacks perpetrated by attention-seeking desperate nutcases, suit yourself. We'll see what China and Russia think about that.
Let me guess...you're American, right?
Yes, it's a bigger threat to mankind than Marxism or militant Islam. Please allow me to make my point. Militant Islam, it only stems from American interventionism in Arab countries and its blatant support of Israel. That's a subject I know very well, since I'm a muslim myself. I grew up in an Arab/Muslim country that's, like all other Arab countries (with the exception of Palestine and Lebanon), a dictatorship. There is no political solution to the problem because the Pan-Arab movement has been killed in the womb with the help of Western powers. The only hope seems to emerge from Islamists. I don't condone their methods nor do I agree with their agenda but I do know they're the only ones who can make a change. If it's for the worse, then be it! As long as they show some resistance to Bush&co, I'll vote for them any time. However, the dictatorial regime makes it impossible for them to acheive any kind of power. That is exactly why they're fed up with the US supporting oppressive regimes and channel that anger in suicide attacks and such.
Marxism is not perfect; No system is. Yet, I fail to see how Marxism could put the lives of millions in danger as capitalism is now doing.
I don't have the resources to convince you of Marxism's viability but then again, who has? The trouble starts when you link it with Leninism (which most Americans do). Now, there is no way I can revert whatever the propaganda has fed generations of Americans but I can confidently claim that a socialist model is definitely no threat to our lives. It can only improve the confort of the less-fortunate while not starving the rich to death. Socialism is the only close thing to Marxism that I have any knowledge of.
Capitalism has ran amock and the US can only promote it by force, bribbery or deception. To quote Ani Difranco, "Capitalism is the devil's wet dream".
The US bombed 24 countries since WWII. It is responsible for violence in a lot more countries. GI's are scattered around the globe in some 140 countries. Afghanistan and Iraq are just the latest examples http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mili tary/etc/cron.html
Ben Laden is not the only threat that faces the US (after 5 years of hiding, even if he's alive it's safe to assume he's got more pressing issues than destroy America on his agenda). A worldwide left movement is rising in power around the world and will resist the crazy journey America has embark on with all its power. Chances are we'll be seeing (if not already) suicide attacks against US interests not in the name of Allah but in the name of Humanity.
Back on topic. Supposing Ben Laden is a hypocritical SOB and that he doesn't give a rats ass about the genocide taking place in Palestine, he sure benefits from the Arabs/Muslims anger towards the US support for Israel. But that you knew already. Let's face it, a nuclear power can survive based on deterrence only without the need for the US to interfer. Note that no Arab country's got the bomb.
I empathize with the wish of Ben Laden to establish whatever form of government in his country that gives Saudis sovereignty over their land, distributes the riches and stop acting as a bitch for the US. Heck, the whole Arab world is in the same situation and holding a free election anywhere from Morocco to Jordan would bring anti-Americans to power. But American backing of those dictatorships makes change almost impossible.
Look at history and you'll quickly realise the fundamental differences between the crusaders and jihadis. One was bloody, merciless and didn't allow religious freedom while the other welcomed monotheists of all horizons.
The true test is whether or not our leaders are competent enough to defeat terrorism without destroying the laws and rights that made this country great.
I'm pretty your leaders know that the only way to defeat terrorism is to stop meddling with other countries' affairs and withdraw your unconditional support of Israel. It's as simple as that. However, doing so might be seen as a victory for the "terrorists" and would not serve America's hegemonic interests to remain the sole ruler of the planet.
If you don't see the west's double standards in treating Jews and Arabs let me refresh you memory; People get sent to jail for challenging the accuracy of the Holocaust figures, yet freedom of speech in invoked everytime someone gratuitousely insults the prophet Mohammed and his teachings. Israel gets away with a stockpile of nukes but no Arab country could dream of being allowed to develop them. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we should question how many people died in the Holocaust or allow for proliferation of WMDs. I'm merely pointing out the things Jews get away with.
To quote Henry Kissinger: "a people who have been persecuted for 2000 years must be doing something wrong."
Kissinger is Jewish himself.
You make an excellent point here, General!
I think the problem is inherent to capitalism as we know it today: Excessively superfluous.
I suspect all this will prove is that it's easier for the army to destroy a sovereign country than it is to wreck a nice beach.
In other news, a study sponsored by Phillip-Morris says smoking makes you look cooler, thus attracting the opposite sex.
For the record, I'm proudly non American and my comment is not linked to either Democrats or Republicans; It's about an imperial power that seem to be repeating history.
- Adolf Hitler, 1942
The fact that the parent is not modded up reflects how much "they" care about such issues. Sad times ...
No comment.
I apologize if I offended you in any way when suggesting that you broaden your sources but I can't understand how people can ignore 60 years of evidence. Arabs got cocky and gave a real hard time to Israelis from the start. But after humiliating defeats, they learned the lesson. If after reading this detailed account of the origins of the conflict, you still believe Israel's acting in good faith then you need some help http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html. This is an "accepted work" compiled by Jews. Also, try to get the "50 years war" video from PBS. I'd be grateful if you could point me to any serious work that could help me grasp your point of view.
Thanks. The only thing I was trying to do is to demonstrate that if the US distances itself from Israel, it'd be better for mankind as a whole. And in that, I failed miserably. I promise you to try being less tolerant of other people's cowardice and wish I could one day look back and say that I did what I could to make Earth a better place. Is it just a passing youth phase or a lifetime commitment? Time will tell.
So, from your perspective, the whole world is trying to throw the Jews into the sea and the US is the good guy who protects poor Israel. It's not like they have nuclear capabilities or anything.
Seriously though, Israel being in danger is a myth. Arab's been trying to get peace since the early 70's but radical Israelis always had their way. Please take the time to read some of the alternative press for a few weeks, you could learn something. Again, prior to the last war, the US was the only country in the world to consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization. Granted, you have a point here. Still, when you lived under an oppresive regime and seen the horrific things that happen to people who oppose it, you begin to overlook the cowardice of your fellow citizens. Such things as civil disobedience cost lives in there. I'm not saying it'll have an effect on anything. If I did, I'd have been one of them. I'm merely trying to show you why it happens: Because they're dumbasses and have no other alternative. I'd agree with that statement conditionaly
I can understand the ignorance (or bliss) of Americas such as yourself from accepting the truth and not some distorted version. All kidding aside, I most sincerely empathize since I read the US media everyday and I can clearly see why you would be cut from reality. I'll reiterate my advice to you: read some alternative media. Do it just for the laughs since you seem to be really convinced of your principles. Whatcha gotta loose? The worst scenario is that you'd end up with a broader perspective on things.
Try this for a start http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm
I've been using Wengo for a while now; Give it a try! http://www.wengo.com/
Correction; The "Arab street" constates that the average American dumb enough to tacitly support Bush's policy. Wake up buddy! America lost all credibility on the world scene since you guys allowed a guy like that to take power. What I said is merely the truth. I never expected you would assimilate it. There is extensive evidence that the American government has been setting up dictatorships around the world. Until you figure out that supporting an illegitimate government so that it'd serve your interests is ultimately less beneficial than everybody living in peace and harmony (or at least trying).
I never said I'd vote for suicide bombers. What I tried to explain is that since there is no way for Islamists to take power, some of them show their frustration by blowing up innocents. Now, if you think nukes are a proportionate response to the sporadic attacks perpetrated by attention-seeking desperate nutcases, suit yourself. We'll see what China and Russia think about that.
Yes, it's a bigger threat to mankind than Marxism or militant Islam. Please allow me to make my point.
Militant Islam, it only stems from American interventionism in Arab countries and its blatant support of Israel. That's a subject I know very well, since I'm a muslim myself. I grew up in an Arab/Muslim country that's, like all other Arab countries (with the exception of Palestine and Lebanon), a dictatorship. There is no political solution to the problem because the Pan-Arab movement has been killed in the womb with the help of Western powers. The only hope seems to emerge from Islamists. I don't condone their methods nor do I agree with their agenda but I do know they're the only ones who can make a change. If it's for the worse, then be it! As long as they show some resistance to Bush&co, I'll vote for them any time. However, the dictatorial regime makes it impossible for them to acheive any kind of power. That is exactly why they're fed up with the US supporting oppressive regimes and channel that anger in suicide attacks and such.
Marxism is not perfect; No system is. Yet, I fail to see how Marxism could put the lives of millions in danger as capitalism is now doing.
I don't have the resources to convince you of Marxism's viability but then again, who has? The trouble starts when you link it with Leninism (which most Americans do). Now, there is no way I can revert whatever the propaganda has fed generations of Americans but I can confidently claim that a socialist model is definitely no threat to our lives. It can only improve the confort of the less-fortunate while not starving the rich to death. Socialism is the only close thing to Marxism that I have any knowledge of.
Capitalism has ran amock and the US can only promote it by force, bribbery or deception. To quote Ani Difranco, "Capitalism is the devil's wet dream".
No Linux support? No thanks.
It was Paul Simon's girlfriend shoe they were interrested in, not yours.
The US bombed 24 countries since WWII. It is responsible for violence in a lot more countries. GI's are scattered around the globe in some 140 countries. Afghanistan and Iraq are just the latest examples http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mili tary/etc/cron.html
Ben Laden is not the only threat that faces the US (after 5 years of hiding, even if he's alive it's safe to assume he's got more pressing issues than destroy America on his agenda). A worldwide left movement is rising in power around the world and will resist the crazy journey America has embark on with all its power. Chances are we'll be seeing (if not already) suicide attacks against US interests not in the name of Allah but in the name of Humanity.
Back on topic. Supposing Ben Laden is a hypocritical SOB and that he doesn't give a rats ass about the genocide taking place in Palestine, he sure benefits from the Arabs/Muslims anger towards the US support for Israel. But that you knew already. Let's face it, a nuclear power can survive based on deterrence only without the need for the US to interfer. Note that no Arab country's got the bomb.
I empathize with the wish of Ben Laden to establish whatever form of government in his country that gives Saudis sovereignty over their land, distributes the riches and stop acting as a bitch for the US. Heck, the whole Arab world is in the same situation and holding a free election anywhere from Morocco to Jordan would bring anti-Americans to power. But American backing of those dictatorships makes change almost impossible.
Look at history and you'll quickly realise the fundamental differences between the crusaders and jihadis. One was bloody, merciless and didn't allow religious freedom while the other welcomed monotheists of all horizons.