Last year, four guys and myself had to write a paper and present it. We figured the best way was for everyone to write a section. Now, when submitting it to a similar service (one in Sweden), the paper came back four times as plagiarism. Guess what? The same guy continued submiting copyrighted stuff, hoping that the database wouldn't contain every paper under the sun.
Remember the little Kuwaiti breaking in tears about how the evil Iraqis were killing babies in kuwait in 91. It turned out the kid was the son of the Kuwaiti ambassador in Washington!
This could be propaganda but it might just be real. No system is infallible and Lebanese don't live in caves, you know! Plus, I can't think of a better incentive to crack codes, as when your country is being blasted mercilessly.
There's the possibility that the Tsahal figured out that the Lebanese were listening and changed their communication system before this story was made public. The world's fifth military power would surely not acknowledge such an event. It makes perfect sense for Hezbollah to advertise the fact afterwards.
I just had a course on advanced VLSI design, where the Professor relies on [Kibar, VanBlerkom, Fan, Esener, J Lightwave Techn., vol. 17, p. 546, 1999] to approximate a couple of Watts for optical interconnects. This is clearly not acceptable.
I'm interrested in how they manage to keep the power consumption reasonable. Till then, I call hype!
1) they don't want the US to have such economic and political power over their countries
2) they are pretty miffed that the US supports Israel
3) some of them want Islam to be the dominant religion all over the world
4) they don't like the US propping up regimes that suppress their brand of religion
5) they don't like the US propping up regimes that treat their citizens inhumanely
6) they want to be taken seriously
7) they want to act on equal terms with the West
Here's what the Americans care about:
1) they want the US to have huge economic and political power over the world
2) they blatantly support Israel
3) some of them want capitalism to be dominant all over the world
4) they like the US propping up regimes that suppress their brand of religion
5) they like the US propping up regimes that treat their citizens inhumanely
6) they want to be taken seriously
7) they don't want anyone to act on equal terms with them
If you disagree with my above statement, please list a few actions Israel could perform to end the conflict, and I will explain why they are either not possible, or will only make things worse, and not end the conflict.
Some of your arguments make perfect sense. I was unaware of how difficult the IDF's birth was. Thanks for sharing that bit.
Now, I can't possibly claim that I have a ready-made solution for the conflict. Worse; I believe that the Arabo-Israeli conflict will not be settled for centuries to come, not because of unwillingness of either sides, but due to more fundamental issues. So I think we agree on that point as well.
What I'd like to point out is that the political path Israel is taking is not doing any good for its future. Anti-semitism is fostering worldwide. This time, unlike the Nazi episode, it's a reaction to barbarious acts rather than gratuitous hatred towards religion.
This quote of Antony Loewenstein is definitely onto something : "The simple truth is that Israel's long-term security lies with the Arab world, not a superpower thousands of miles away."
Have we come to the point where every word one says must be parsed and examined for any trace of anything that might offend the most hypersensative among us lest he or she be branded a racist?
Duh! Have you been under a rock lately? Anyone who even thought considering that capitalism as we know it, may be harmful was tagged a "commie". Now, anyone who as much as utters the responsability of Israel in the Gaza genocide is an "anti-semite". Of course, any Arab, Muslim or sympathizer with the two former is a "terrorist".
Saying Israel is a "de-facto Apartheid" is a little, tad, bit, extreme. People of different backgrounds and cultures chose to live separately, and set up different residential areas. Jews and Arabs live side by side in Israel, without a forced segregation.
Israel IS an apartheid regime! Failing to see that is yet another proof of which side the media are on. I urge you to read the following comparison of Israel with South Africa (though a couple of years old) http://mondediplo.com/2003/11/04apartheid. The sad part is that it only got worse ever since.
So maybe you should snap out of this illusion that peace is right around the corner, and it only takes some Israeli gut to make it. There's a lot more to do in the Arab nations for peace than there is in Israel.
What you just said has more falseness to it than truth.
After witnessing the opression and humiliation of their fellows in Gaza and the WB, most Arabs grew mad about it. This, coupled with a sense of helplessness, is what translates into terrorism (I speak from experience here). Granted, this context, is not one in which peace would foster.
However, at the political level, history clearly shows that Israel has been the one to reject peace ever since it proved superior militarily (early 70's). From then on, Israel has been the one to reject peace.
Now, would there be peace if the Arabs recognized Israel and its right to exist before that date? Possibly so. It doesn't change the fact that Israel has been founded on depossession, extortion and explotation of the Arabs of Palestine. Read some of Ben-Guiron or Begin's writings. They don't hide that fact.
Highly recommended are the PBS's video "50 years war" and this account of the origins of the conflict written by Jews for justice. http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html
I'll agree with you on that one. Being an Arab myself, I'll go as far as saying that ALL the Arab word is theocratic (with the exception of Lebanon and Palestine).
I seriously doubt anyone who is objective can think Israel is an ally of the United States.
Again, you're right. Israel has hijacked the US in my opinion. Why else would you support Israel at such a cost (billion of dollars; most of your vetoes; national security)?
Ever heard of USS liberty? http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
The best thing the United States could do in the Middle East for itself is withdraw all support from any nation there.
I'm sure you would, if only your oil didn't get under their sands.;-)
Israel has been doing the same thing forever! Yet, I'm still looking for a single piece in mainstream media that mentions the censorship. And yes, most people mistake this apartheid regime for a democracy as well.
Mod me down troll now, the fact is all of the above is truth.
This is nothing! I don't know how many of you are following the Mexican elections but get this:
- The computer system to count the ballots was set up by a company owned by Calderon's brother-in-law. (Calderon is the pro-business candidate)
- The last 30% votes of ballots didn't add up more than 0.1% for the opposition candidate Obrador. It defies statistics as I know them.
- The seven supreme court judges that are supposed to appoint a president or nullify the elections were handpicked by current president Fox, Calderon's close ally.
Who needs to hack the voting machine when you can do all of the above, have a couple of millions protesting in the streets and not only get away with it but also have the support of most countries? Now, that's something!
This is getting nowhere.
Support for Israel has gone unchallenged in the US for so long that it's entrenched in American minds pretty much in the same way demonization of Jews is in the Arab world after 60 years of massacre.
We could go on arguing about disproportionality of the slaughter, or labelling Hezbollah fighters cowards because they didn't stand on a hill facing jet fighters and tanks with their AK-47's. Propaganda is part of the struggle on both sides, and that is why we must never rely on few sources.
The fact of the matter is that the antisemitism is developing in the US as shown by the incidents in Howard County, Maryland. The architect who wasn't allowed to board a plane because of his T-shirt written in Arabic in NY, or the two Arabs who were not allowed to board the plane in Manchester because they were looking at their watches and speaking in Arabic add up to my sentiment of dark times ahead.
It is not arrogant to try to defend yourself against a constant an unprovoked attack from a cowardly enemy that hides among the civilian population. Israel did not try to kill kids, and the blame for the deaths of any children that were killed in Lebanon lies soley with the group that started the conflict: Hezbollah. There were thousands of innocent Israeli casualties due to the relentless stream of rockets Hezbollah fired into Israel. Why aren't you calling Hezbollah arrogant too?
"Constant and unprovoked attack" you say? Since the withdrawal of Israel in 2000, there's been a single attack on Israel before the events of June 12th. This attack has been acknowledged as an accident which Hezbollah apologised for. That's 6 years of non violence, and was it not for the recent conflict, support for Hezbollah would have weakened to the point where they'd have been removed from government in the next elections.
Israel on the other hand, regularly violated Lebanon's airspace by flying jets at low altitude, which scare the locals. Hezbollah's attempts to bring them down with anticraft artillery was the reason why Israel bombed southern Lebanon in September 2003. The more recent escalation in Palestine was presented as a response to Gilad's capture; Did anyone care to report the kidnapping of two Palestinian brothers the day before? I'm sure you didn't even hear about it.
A couple of weeks earlier, an Israeli bomb shell killed 9 people on Gaza beach. Attempts by the IDF to clean its hands of the catastrophe looked pathetic when most independant journalists/observers corroborate the story.
Clashes on the Israeli-lebanese border never really stopped. Incursions on both sides and the capture of soldiers to use as bargaining chips were fairly common since 2000. It's clear to anyone following the ME events closely that July 12th was a pretext to make the civilians suffer in an attempt to trigger an uprisal against Hezbollah. That attempt acheived the opposite.
I'd suggest you diversify whatever media you're counting on to keep you informed. All (and I repeat all), mainstream journalists covering the Israelo-Palestinian conflict live in Israel (because the living condition in Palestine are unbearable). and thus must obey the Israeli censorship laws. That leads more often than not, to quite biased accounts of the reality.
I may be biased myself, but that's probably 'cause I'm familiar with the origins of the conflict. Try reading the history as seen by non-Zionist Jews; http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html
Also, I can tell from your sig that you're American. I would urge you to read about the "USS Liberty" where the IDF executed Americans in cold blood. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
I am from the planet where the UN Security Council unanimously passed resolution 687 and over a dozen subsequent resolution that explicitly authorized- even required- the use of military force to get Iraq to expose and dismantle it's weapons programs and stop supporting terrorists (among other things). Since Iraq never did either of those, the use of military force was not only authorized, it was obligated Chapter VII of the UN Charter to force complience.
My reply addresed Workindev's comment that claimed Russia and China would not oppose an attack on Iran allegedly 'cause they didn't oppose the one on Irak.
I'd say that animosity against the US in the Arab street was pretty strong in 1979 when Arabs stormed the US Embassy in Tehran and took 66 people hostage. That certainly wasn't George W. Bush's fault.
Typical; Iranian are NOT Arabs!!
So you equate open support for Israel with "arrogance"?
Yes. Condie&co were cutting slack for Israel to pursue the raids during which hundreds of kids died. It's arrogance in the sense that you allow yourselves to do such things 'cause of your military superiority.
Only a great fool would believe that Iran does not intent to develop nuclear weapons with thir nuclear program, especially considering that Russia has offered them as much enriched Uranium as they want for energy generation, and they are already sitting on one of the largest energy reserves in the world.
I may be a fool, yet I believe international law should be respected. Please take the time to read the following, I'm sure you'll learn many things. http://www.counterpunch.org/cole08252006.html The author is a professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History in the History Department at the University of Michigan.
Russia and China both voted to authorize military action against Iraq, why would it be any different with Iran if they posed a similar threat with WMD's?
Which planet are you from?
From the wikipedia entry for "2003 invasion of Iraq":
"The United Kingdom and United States attempted to get a U.N. Security Council resolution authorising military force, but withdrew it before it could come to a vote after France, Russia, and later China all signalled that they would use their Security Council veto power against any resolution that would include an ultimatum allowing the use of force against Iraq."
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I wish Google would step in ...
Remember the guy who was denied access to the plane until he removes his T-shirt bearing "We will not be silenced" in both Arabic and English?http://in.today.reuters.com/news/NewsArtic le.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-08-30T071006Z_ 01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-265380-1.xml
Last year, four guys and myself had to write a paper and present it. We figured the best way was for everyone to write a section. Now, when submitting it to a similar service (one in Sweden), the paper came back four times as plagiarism. Guess what? The same guy continued submiting copyrighted stuff, hoping that the database wouldn't contain every paper under the sun.
It's a proof-of-concept. Yet, the exploit predates it.
I caught myself watching MTV's "Wanna come in" few minutes ago and gave myself a slap.
Remember the little Kuwaiti breaking in tears about how the evil Iraqis were killing babies in kuwait in 91. It turned out the kid was the son of the Kuwaiti ambassador in Washington!
This could be propaganda but it might just be real. No system is infallible and Lebanese don't live in caves, you know! Plus, I can't think of a better incentive to crack codes, as when your country is being blasted mercilessly.
There's the possibility that the Tsahal figured out that the Lebanese were listening and changed their communication system before this story was made public. The world's fifth military power would surely not acknowledge such an event. It makes perfect sense for Hezbollah to advertise the fact afterwards.
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I just had a course on advanced VLSI design, where the Professor relies on [Kibar, VanBlerkom, Fan, Esener, J Lightwave Techn., vol. 17, p. 546, 1999] to approximate a couple of Watts for optical interconnects. This is clearly not acceptable.
I'm interrested in how they manage to keep the power consumption reasonable. Till then, I call hype!
1) they want the US to have huge economic and political power over the world
2) they blatantly support Israel
3) some of them want capitalism to be dominant all over the world
4) they like the US propping up regimes that suppress their brand of religion
5) they like the US propping up regimes that treat their citizens inhumanely
6) they want to be taken seriously
7) they don't want anyone to act on equal terms with them
Now, I can't possibly claim that I have a ready-made solution for the conflict. Worse; I believe that the Arabo-Israeli conflict will not be settled for centuries to come, not because of unwillingness of either sides, but due to more fundamental issues. So I think we agree on that point as well.
What I'd like to point out is that the political path Israel is taking is not doing any good for its future. Anti-semitism is fostering worldwide. This time, unlike the Nazi episode, it's a reaction to barbarious acts rather than gratuitous hatred towards religion.
This quote of Antony Loewenstein is definitely onto something : "The simple truth is that Israel's long-term security lies with the Arab world, not a superpower thousands of miles away."
Anyone who even thought considering that capitalism as we know it, may be harmful was tagged a "commie". Now, anyone who as much as utters the responsability of Israel in the Gaza genocide is an "anti-semite". Of course, any Arab, Muslim or sympathizer with the two former is a "terrorist".
After witnessing the opression and humiliation of their fellows in Gaza and the WB, most Arabs grew mad about it. This, coupled with a sense of helplessness, is what translates into terrorism (I speak from experience here). Granted, this context, is not one in which peace would foster.
However, at the political level, history clearly shows that Israel has been the one to reject peace ever since it proved superior militarily (early 70's). From then on, Israel has been the one to reject peace.
Now, would there be peace if the Arabs recognized Israel and its right to exist before that date? Possibly so. It doesn't change the fact that Israel has been founded on depossession, extortion and explotation of the Arabs of Palestine. Read some of Ben-Guiron or Begin's writings. They don't hide that fact.
Highly recommended are the PBS's video "50 years war" and this account of the origins of the conflict written by Jews for justice. http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html
I'm sure you would, if only your oil didn't get under their sands.
Israel has been doing the same thing forever! Yet, I'm still looking for a single piece in mainstream media that mentions the censorship. And yes, most people mistake this apartheid regime for a democracy as well.
Mod me down troll now, the fact is all of the above is truth.
Nope! Weed is the alcohol prohibition of the 21st century. Along, with Muslims being considered innocent until proven guilty.
This is nothing! I don't know how many of you are following the Mexican elections but get this:
- The computer system to count the ballots was set up by a company owned by Calderon's brother-in-law. (Calderon is the pro-business candidate)
- The last 30% votes of ballots didn't add up more than 0.1% for the opposition candidate Obrador. It defies statistics as I know them.
- The seven supreme court judges that are supposed to appoint a president or nullify the elections were handpicked by current president Fox, Calderon's close ally.
Who needs to hack the voting machine when you can do all of the above, have a couple of millions protesting in the streets and not only get away with it but also have the support of most countries? Now, that's something!
Heard of the Arctic Monkeys? The first album from that indie band has become the fastest-selling debut album in UK chart history.
Pissed off people of all countries, unite!
This is getting nowhere.
Support for Israel has gone unchallenged in the US for so long that it's entrenched in American minds pretty much in the same way demonization of Jews is in the Arab world after 60 years of massacre.
We could go on arguing about disproportionality of the slaughter, or labelling Hezbollah fighters cowards because they didn't stand on a hill facing jet fighters and tanks with their AK-47's. Propaganda is part of the struggle on both sides, and that is why we must never rely on few sources. The fact of the matter is that the antisemitism is developing in the US as shown by the incidents in Howard County, Maryland. The architect who wasn't allowed to board a plane because of his T-shirt written in Arabic in NY, or the two Arabs who were not allowed to board the plane in Manchester because they were looking at their watches and speaking in Arabic add up to my sentiment of dark times ahead.
I've never been able to silence my OSX G4's startup sound. One of the reasons I'm using Linux on it.
Israel on the other hand, regularly violated Lebanon's airspace by flying jets at low altitude, which scare the locals. Hezbollah's attempts to bring them down with anticraft artillery was the reason why Israel bombed southern Lebanon in September 2003. The more recent escalation in Palestine was presented as a response to Gilad's capture; Did anyone care to report the kidnapping of two Palestinian brothers the day before? I'm sure you didn't even hear about it.
A couple of weeks earlier, an Israeli bomb shell killed 9 people on Gaza beach. Attempts by the IDF to clean its hands of the catastrophe looked pathetic when most independant journalists/observers corroborate the story.
Clashes on the Israeli-lebanese border never really stopped. Incursions on both sides and the capture of soldiers to use as bargaining chips were fairly common since 2000. It's clear to anyone following the ME events closely that July 12th was a pretext to make the civilians suffer in an attempt to trigger an uprisal against Hezbollah. That attempt acheived the opposite.
I'd suggest you diversify whatever media you're counting on to keep you informed. All (and I repeat all), mainstream journalists covering the Israelo-Palestinian conflict live in Israel (because the living condition in Palestine are unbearable). and thus must obey the Israeli censorship laws. That leads more often than not, to quite biased accounts of the reality.
I may be biased myself, but that's probably 'cause I'm familiar with the origins of the conflict. Try reading the history as seen by non-Zionist Jews; http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.htm
Also, I can tell from your sig that you're American. I would urge you to read about the "USS Liberty" where the IDF executed Americans in cold blood. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html
My reply addresed Workindev's comment that claimed Russia and China would not oppose an attack on Iran allegedly 'cause they didn't oppose the one on Irak.
Typical; Iranian are NOT Arabs!!
Yes. Condie&co were cutting slack for Israel to pursue the raids during which hundreds of kids died. It's arrogance in the sense that you allow yourselves to do such things 'cause of your military superiority.
I may be a fool, yet I believe international law should be respected. Please take the time to read the following, I'm sure you'll learn many things. http://www.counterpunch.org/cole08252006.html The author is a professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History in the History Department at the University of Michigan.
Which planet are you from?
From the wikipedia entry for "2003 invasion of Iraq": "The United Kingdom and United States attempted to get a U.N. Security Council resolution authorising military force, but withdrew it before it could come to a vote after France, Russia, and later China all signalled that they would use their Security Council veto power against any resolution that would include an ultimatum allowing the use of force against Iraq."