Gfx and sounds are better looking than because you play them on your TV.
TVs does some "extra hitech analogue smoothing":-) while displaying since they are designed for PAL (625 lines therotically but no midrange TV can display full detail).
I want to add those specs to your post since there are actual people who believes Xbox is a high end console. No its not. Only way if it can be suscessful is MS giant at its back. Will it be good for Console users if there is _just_ microsoft left on arena? Its the nr 1 rule of MS; eliminate rivals,don'T compete with them. They tried it via wmedia (Realplayer), failed. They tried it against Quicken, failed. Now, its 3rd time they failed. Not a big deal, its a company lol!
Yahoo offers free customer reviews "under" the products page,in their shopping network.
What I see is, the customers (or potential customers) of those systems are REALLY different from us, geeks or PC users.
There are like 20 messages saying its controller sux by 12-15 year old kids. Not things like PC people would say or care about.
"console peoples" (lol,I know it sounds like aliens) games are really different. Like, Final Fanstasy, GT3 , some sort of racing games really different from "our" Need For Speed series etc.
So, before all... Think of it. MS tried to "invade" an area which it never belonged and has no experience.
Oh, the MS cult members. In fact, even if it crashes totally like discontinues (I wouldn't believe it,disaster company image) MS would have right to say: "See? We aren't such an evil company, sometimes we fail too"
What I see is a p3 733 CPU with custom Nvidia chip (anyone dares to benchmark?) running some extra-cool directX which MS is hiding from us (PC users) oh and a HD which runs some form of FAT (omg,make it at least ntfs for journaling,household electricity problems)
Did you see Sony PS/2's specs? Don't you laugh to those people (they finally got a clue) saying Xbox would kill PS/2 because it has 733 Mhz CPU???
MS couldn't win this game. Maybe next time... Oh and those "cool" plans... No, I don't want BillG in my god damn TV...:-)
Well, he wouldn't say "oh,that xbox was a crap trying to compete with 128bit Sony PS/2 with absolutely awful Microsoft image behind on their own game" right?
Since its first debut or rumors, I couldn't get why on earth a person with p4 2000/GeForce 4 would buy xbox either... Yes,there are my friends having such configuration AND bought a PS/2 too.
One of the reasons were especially simple and funny looking... They bought it instead of an DVD deck. There are some stories that, Xbox needs another thing to play DVDs...
I wouldn't want to sound funny but... If next Xbox was based on Itanium or AMD Hammer chip, something you CAN'T GO AND BUY FROM A SHOP directly, it will sell real good.
On same time, PS/3 will feature Grid computing from IBM:-)
Worst fault was... Using Microsoft name on it. Moderate me troll or not.
The thing why they are monochrome is (in fact must be 256 gray tones) is, high DPI. The avarage,most crap print book is 600 dpi. You can't sell (if you can anyway) a 72 or 120 dpi e-book reader to those book readers.
Therotically monochrome display should be 3x higher DPI than colour one since no need to have 3 different "pixels" to display a colour (RGB), just a black pixel with illumunation control would be OK. In DTP business since years,there are some monitors are monochrome but produces unbeliavable resolution/dpi , they aren't normal in general,some are even exactly A4 sized.
to my knowledge is, It outputs either raw AC3 or it helps software to decode Dolby ac3 and sends decoded AC3 data which is 5.1 S/PDIF indeed.
So, its a DVD thing in fact. Maybe in future, DivX can take advantage of it.
So, think it as a DVD helper thing. Also reading how much people hates driver/software support of ATI, I wouldn't go for it. I mean, they are speaking about lack of Windows support, no need to be hopeful about Linux support. Dolby AC3 is a closed source thing btw.
Gee... As a 3dfx voodoo 3000 owner, I know when Dx9 etc ships and no miracle happens I will have to replace my card. Maybe just to get new drivers installed.
Also,as a 3dfx owner, I don't feel comfortable buying a nvidia card and see its boot screen (video rom etc) just because I don't like that company itself and the way they left us in cold. I know, they bought the arch/blueprints of 3dfx instead of company but doesn't change my feelings since I have to hunt for some good guys modified drivers (AmigaMerlin now) to make at least gamma settings work.
The problem is, my only problem with my current card is, driver support and not having good drivers to unleash cards full potential.
What I see over and over is, those rants... Matrox drivers suck, ATI drivers suck. Also hardware geeks say too. They even say those chips are excellent things wasted by badly drivers.
I mean, if drivers suck, seems people like me will end up buying nvidia:-(
S/PDIF is the digital sound transport standard. E.g. you can hook it to an amp which accepts S/PDIF signal and you can have pure digital sound w/o analogue signal loss.
I guess its not an output,its input indeed. For DV Capture etc.
If its output, therotically you can use it as a sound card but I don't think its a reliable way to do.
S/PDIF is an internationally accepted hardware sound transport standard. Posted this to say that it has nothing to do with Operating Systems.
Hmmm... You forget something. In fact they forget it. What happens if installer exe copies itself to users shared files folder? Right, P2P:-) How they can shut down 80M servers?
If they manage to stop it (we all know they have that power), it will be a proof for RIAA whatever that its a centralized network.
IMHO people should use gnucleus (http://www.gnucleus.com) and WinMX (OpenNAP protocol) but anyway...
X-Box is a p3 733 with Nvidia GPU and special (eh, tweaked firmware etc) hardware.
That is NOT a console IMHO. We speak about 128bit Sony PS/2 in consoles.
However, MS would -of course- tweak DirectX for that "console". Also its normal for them.
But its NOT a console, the "gaming" console I understand is a much more advanced machine with the features we don't see/need on PC's.
Like a 128 bit processing unit (whether its a gpu or cpu, I don't know)...
So, X-Box... People dreaming of 2Ghz P4's running on RDRAM's won't give a sh*t to it. Especially if "gaming" that they understand is "counter strike". Counter Strike uses Modified Quake II engine of half life... Eh,that "console" has OpenGL?
I mean since its seperate signals, it will look more real and natural.
Speaking of Y/C, its yellow and cyan in my jargon (video editing is my job), there is also a much better connection (component) as you said. Are you sure about luminance and chroma? Whats I use is Yellow/Cyan and a sync signal (of course)
Sorry I was kinda confused but, I was trying to say people to use/buy devices with "SVHS" connectors in these times.
"I've SVHS into a 36" TV, looks lovely and sounds good. Only one DVD/Audio-phile friend notices the difference."
Speaking of picture, it should be better looking since the cable called SVHS is always better than composite because it uses 2 cables in fact, a Yellow and a Cyan signal. Thats why electronics and TV guys call it Y/C.
The RGB, for Europe, do they use Euro Connector? If so, it only has a composite signal, not seperate RGB signals as PC monitors have. If it had, it would be great way to connect our gfx cards to TV.
What I mean is, especially on these DVD days, go for SVHS equipped connections if you have chance. You won't have "mega" resolution increase but mostly cleaner/realistic/sharper colours. Er, for people who doesn't know what it is, its the connector looks like exactly a PS/2 mouse/keyboard connector. Oh btw, I am not into console gaming so sorry if I confused something and/or there are evil/lame tactics those companies "invented".
I agree, Mozilla still _needs_ some optimizations. I wouldn't agree that you were marked as troll if the story was just mozilla.
The story is, Compuserve will be using Mozilla rendering engine, trade name, Gecko, in its OWN UI which uses native windows controls.
The difference is, 80% of so-called Mozilla slowness comes from damn complex multiplatform UI engine.(And it has improved way better) While there are shells around, for both *nix and Windows, you can figure it yourself. Gecko, the html renderer is real damn speedy.
So, I assume you aren't a troll, just misinformed about what mozilla is and isn't.
Eh, Limewire once bundled World's first Java (and possibly multi platform in future) spyware named topMoxie.
It didn't have opt-out first (on install), it used Microsoft Java especially to make people trust (funny I know) to Microsoft branded program connecting to net.
After furious posts on gnutella forums, they now made it "opt in" I heard since I don't care about those once good, now... anyway guys...
So, if you speak about an alternative to spyware, don't even speak about Limewire.
If you spoke about Gnucleus ( http://www.gnucleus.com ) which is open source, it would be all OK. Oh FYI, currently Ad-Aware can't detect TopMoxie. They have been alerted by me and many others.
Wondering how you can change in months from 2 Stanford, cool geeks to Spyware distrobutors. Just funny... NOT!
Oh btw, zonealarm etc users, did you ever give Microsoft java virtual machine rights to connect to internet? eh, thats it.
Its Novell's service. The idea is fairly simple. They want to test their messagin products in real world, with thousands of users, people want free mail.
IMHO it must be advertised more. That money Yahoo wants is stupid. A pop3 access doesn't worth that much anyway. Well, leave it to their potential customers of course. Maybe people would buy just because its @yahoo in it.
At least, they should implement, APOP, TLS etc. Nothing. Novell has all.
Oh btw, Novell was dead, wasn't it?:-) Great job Novell suits!
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Ahem, your industry? So you compare an electronics giant's machine such as Sony which is 128bit RISC CPU with a p3 733 crap?
Man, interesting is... How a cult MS fallowers is... A new religion maybe?
Gfx and sounds are better looking than because you play them on your TV.
:-) while displaying since they are designed for PAL (625 lines therotically but no midrange TV can display full detail).
TVs does some "extra hitech analogue smoothing"
I want to add those specs to your post since there are actual people who believes Xbox is a high end console. No its not. Only way if it can be suscessful is MS giant at its back. Will it be good for Console users if there is _just_ microsoft left on arena? Its the nr 1 rule of MS; eliminate rivals,don'T compete with them. They tried it via wmedia (Realplayer), failed. They tried it against Quicken, failed. Now, its 3rd time they failed. Not a big deal, its a company lol!
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128-bit Playstation 2 CPU
System Clock Frequency
294.912 MHz
Cache Memory
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Memory Size
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Memory Bus Bandwidth
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Yahoo offers free customer reviews "under" the products page,in their shopping network.
What I see is, the customers (or potential customers) of those systems are REALLY different from us, geeks or PC users.
There are like 20 messages saying its controller sux by 12-15 year old kids. Not things like PC people would say or care about.
"console peoples" (lol,I know it sounds like aliens) games are really different. Like, Final Fanstasy, GT3 , some sort of racing games really different from "our" Need For Speed series etc.
So, before all... Think of it. MS tried to "invade" an area which it never belonged and has no experience.
Oh, the MS cult members. In fact, even if it crashes totally like discontinues (I wouldn't believe it,disaster company image) MS would have right to say: "See? We aren't such an evil company, sometimes we fail too"
What I see is a p3 733 CPU with custom Nvidia chip (anyone dares to benchmark?) running some extra-cool directX which MS is hiding from us (PC users) oh and a HD which runs some form of FAT (omg,make it at least ntfs for journaling,household electricity problems)
:-)
Did you see Sony PS/2's specs? Don't you laugh to those people (they finally got a clue) saying Xbox would kill PS/2 because it has 733 Mhz CPU???
MS couldn't win this game. Maybe next time... Oh and those "cool" plans... No, I don't want BillG in my god damn TV...
Xbox falls. Right... Sales are disappointing.
:-)
Well, he wouldn't say "oh,that xbox was a crap trying to compete with 128bit Sony PS/2 with absolutely awful Microsoft image behind on their own game" right?
Since its first debut or rumors, I couldn't get why on earth a person with p4 2000/GeForce 4 would buy xbox either... Yes,there are my friends having such configuration AND bought a PS/2 too.
One of the reasons were especially simple and funny looking... They bought it instead of an DVD deck. There are some stories that, Xbox needs another thing to play DVDs...
I wouldn't want to sound funny but... If next Xbox was based on Itanium or AMD Hammer chip, something you CAN'T GO AND BUY FROM A SHOP directly, it will sell real good.
On same time, PS/3 will feature Grid computing from IBM
Worst fault was... Using Microsoft name on it. Moderate me troll or not.
heheh I know what you mean.
The thing why they are monochrome is (in fact must be 256 gray tones) is, high DPI. The avarage,most crap print book is 600 dpi. You can't sell (if you can anyway) a 72 or 120 dpi e-book reader to those book readers.
Therotically monochrome display should be 3x higher DPI than colour one since no need to have 3 different "pixels" to display a colour (RGB), just a black pixel with illumunation control would be OK. In DTP business since years,there are some monitors are monochrome but produces unbeliavable resolution/dpi , they aren't normal in general,some are even exactly A4 sized.
and do you have any 32bit colour novels?
to my knowledge is, It outputs either raw AC3 or it helps software to decode Dolby ac3 and sends decoded AC3 data which is 5.1 S/PDIF indeed.
So, its a DVD thing in fact. Maybe in future, DivX can take advantage of it.
So, think it as a DVD helper thing. Also reading how much people hates driver/software support of ATI, I wouldn't go for it. I mean, they are speaking about lack of Windows support, no need to be hopeful about Linux support. Dolby AC3 is a closed source thing btw.
Gee... As a 3dfx voodoo 3000 owner, I know when Dx9 etc ships and no miracle happens I will have to replace my card. Maybe just to get new drivers installed.
:-(
Also,as a 3dfx owner, I don't feel comfortable buying a nvidia card and see its boot screen (video rom etc) just because I don't like that company itself and the way they left us in cold. I know, they bought the arch/blueprints of 3dfx instead of company but doesn't change my feelings since I have to hunt for some good guys modified drivers (AmigaMerlin now) to make at least gamma settings work.
The problem is, my only problem with my current card is, driver support and not having good drivers to unleash cards full potential.
What I see over and over is, those rants... Matrox drivers suck, ATI drivers suck. Also hardware geeks say too. They even say those chips are excellent things wasted by badly drivers.
I mean, if drivers suck, seems people like me will end up buying nvidia
S/PDIF is the digital sound transport standard. E.g. you can hook it to an amp which accepts S/PDIF signal and you can have pure digital sound w/o analogue signal loss.
I guess its not an output,its input indeed. For DV Capture etc.
If its output, therotically you can use it as a sound card but I don't think its a reliable way to do.
S/PDIF is an internationally accepted hardware sound transport standard. Posted this to say that it has nothing to do with Operating Systems.
Hmmm... You forget something. In fact they forget it. What happens if installer exe copies itself to users shared files folder? Right, P2P :-) How they can shut down 80M servers?
If they manage to stop it (we all know they have that power), it will be a proof for RIAA whatever that its a centralized network.
IMHO people should use gnucleus (http://www.gnucleus.com) and WinMX (OpenNAP protocol) but anyway...
X-Box is a p3 733 with Nvidia GPU and special (eh, tweaked firmware etc) hardware.
That is NOT a console IMHO. We speak about 128bit Sony PS/2 in consoles.
However, MS would -of course- tweak DirectX for that "console". Also its normal for them.
But its NOT a console, the "gaming" console I understand is a much more advanced machine with the features we don't see/need on PC's.
Like a 128 bit processing unit (whether its a gpu or cpu, I don't know)...
So, X-Box... People dreaming of 2Ghz P4's running on RDRAM's won't give a sh*t to it. Especially if "gaming" that they understand is "counter strike". Counter Strike uses Modified Quake II engine of half life... Eh,that "console" has OpenGL?
I mean since its seperate signals, it will look more real and natural.
Speaking of Y/C, its yellow and cyan in my jargon (video editing is my job), there is also a much better connection (component) as you said. Are you sure about luminance and chroma? Whats I use is Yellow/Cyan and a sync signal (of course)
Sorry I was kinda confused but, I was trying to say people to use/buy devices with "SVHS" connectors in these times.
"I've SVHS into a 36" TV, looks lovely and sounds good. Only one DVD/Audio-phile friend notices the
difference."
Speaking of picture, it should be better looking since the cable called SVHS is always better than composite because it uses 2 cables in fact, a Yellow and a Cyan signal. Thats why electronics and TV guys call it Y/C.
The RGB, for Europe, do they use Euro Connector? If so, it only has a composite signal, not seperate RGB signals as PC monitors have. If it had, it would be great way to connect our gfx cards to TV.
What I mean is, especially on these DVD days, go for SVHS equipped connections if you have chance. You won't have "mega" resolution increase but mostly cleaner/realistic/sharper colours. Er, for people who doesn't know what it is, its the connector looks like exactly a PS/2 mouse/keyboard connector.
Oh btw, I am not into console gaming so sorry if I confused something and/or there are evil/lame tactics those companies "invented".
You don't get it on purpose I guess.
Compuserve users won'T see a lizard or a red star in their browsers.
Its just gecko.dll replacing mshtml.dll on COMPUSERVE APPLICATION. No XUL ui, no geek fantasies. No monster, no lizard. Understand?
Oh, and based on my everyday use, Gecko is much more modern and speedy renderer than mshtml.dll
If MS _really_ trusted to their apps, they wouldn't force people to use it by lame excuses.
so, what will that supercomputer will be used for? Arms? Petrol? Investigation? What?
I wouldn't be happy for such thing happen...
I agree, Mozilla still _needs_ some optimizations. I wouldn't agree that you were marked as troll if the story was just mozilla.
The story is, Compuserve will be using Mozilla rendering engine, trade name, Gecko, in its OWN UI which uses native windows controls.
The difference is, 80% of so-called Mozilla slowness comes from damn complex multiplatform UI engine.(And it has improved way better) While there are shells around, for both *nix and Windows, you can figure it yourself. Gecko, the html renderer is real damn speedy.
So, I assume you aren't a troll, just misinformed about what mozilla is and isn't.
Is it a lagged April 1 story? I can't believe the page in its entity. I mean, that black hand on Netscape 4.x, VISA etc...
And the most funny is:
Read more about chat-room hackers and identity theft in a chat with Entercept's Chad Harrington
Geez, it was a april 1 story right?
Its used as RAM, not as DISK.
:-)
Wondering when first post appears claiming his Intel/AMD system has more GB's...
Eh, Limewire once bundled World's first Java (and possibly multi platform in future) spyware named topMoxie.
... anyway guys...
It didn't have opt-out first (on install), it used Microsoft Java especially to make people trust (funny I know) to Microsoft branded program connecting to net.
After furious posts on gnutella forums, they now made it "opt in" I heard since I don't care about those once good, now
So, if you speak about an alternative to spyware, don't even speak about Limewire.
If you spoke about Gnucleus ( http://www.gnucleus.com ) which is open source, it would be all OK.
Oh FYI, currently Ad-Aware can't detect TopMoxie. They have been alerted by me and many others.
Wondering how you can change in months from 2 Stanford, cool geeks to Spyware distrobutors. Just funny... NOT!
Oh btw, zonealarm etc users, did you ever give Microsoft java virtual machine rights to connect to internet? eh, thats it.
Its MS'es joke about Mozilla's instability. Er, don't flame me, MS 'es joke I said.
Its not a bug, Opera uses as much as memory you have on your system. When another app needs it, it frees.
If you are disturbed with it, disable "automatic ram cache".
on seriously coded sites, I have NEVER ever seen a problem with Opera rendering but... its my point of view.
Yea, how interesting a MSNBC partner "breaks" those news...
The troll must be misguided but I really saw a MSN popup while reading the article...
Sometimes things are real simple, especially those dotcom crash whatever... Don't forget it.
Its Novell's service. The idea is fairly simple. They want to test their messagin products in real world, with thousands of users, people want free mail.
:-) Great job Novell suits!
IMHO it must be advertised more. That money Yahoo wants is stupid. A pop3 access doesn't worth that much anyway. Well, leave it to their potential customers of course. Maybe people would buy just because its @yahoo in it.
At least, they should implement, APOP, TLS etc. Nothing. Novell has all.
Oh btw, Novell was dead, wasn't it?