I know, Clear Type is a 1980's invention (just check http://grc.com/cleartype.htm )but appearantly, as X-Setup for Windows shows here (you can consider it like a linuxconf wannabe allthough, it is good) Windows XP has Clear Type technology built in.
So, if they wanted to "wait" us for this amount of time just for drawing gray pixels near fonts, they should come with Clear Type like (and I repeat,I am deeply believing, it is just a 80's sub-cga gfx invention) technology.
I liked Webshots as a windows user and continueusly using it.
Than a day came, I crashed it too bad and had to re-install...
Know what? The software which I used was "grown". Well, I tought they should have enhanced it... Than at Installation Screen, this question has been asked (and, as usual, clicked by default"
"Install Gator and new.NET software with it?"
I canceled installation directly.
For me, as a foreigner, it was an absolute shock. I mean, for a large company to add such known spyware to their "flagship" download. I feedbacked them too, via my own mail etc. calling them "morons".
Now I just start to understand what happens.
Submission of article is buggy
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Netscape 6.1
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Netscape has a network based installer, it isn't a "junk", it is based on mozilla 0.9.2...
Where are those infos? I even could send a better submission.
I sure remember some scripts using ipchains got broken on 2.4 kernel upgraders, so that made Linux evil?
Firewalls, especially on closed system architectures plays too much with system internals. So when a system get updated, they can cause crashes. Notice Zonealarm and Blackice are "startup" programs. So, a end user installing those will get crashed and it will cause lots of hours to understand what is going on.
No need to say much, TheRegister article explains all.
Possibly off-topic but... If it is done (It shouldn't be done IMHO as IE still carries Mozilla/Compatible) and somehow moved to Netscape commercial builds, it will mean:
"We LOST it" for Industry.
Just a warning IMHO.
The "nightmare" of Jabber is fatly written clients.
Windows 9x is widely used and they can't offer a client besides Delhi or Vbasic language.
http://www.jabbercentral.org/clients/ is a good resource of course. Also can you check the clients resource use?
One of the interesting fact is only Winjabber which is -goodly- written Delphi program can support my language. Also the language I speak about isn't Chinese with 3000 chars, it is a latin based Turkish alphabet (iso-8859-9).
IMHO Jabber needs a compact client which uses 1/10 footprint of those ICQ,MSN and has 10 times more features.
Than you can make windows users care as so that time Industry cares.
I feel "shock" over the many posters, boycotters etc.
I guess Adobe was considered as a "company like us" since they made Acrobat Reader available to *nix.
The real reason for them to make it available was not to break "multiplatform" spec of Acrobat.
Adobe just another huge closed source software company with an army of lawyers. I wanted to point this fact since it seems some of us thinks like above.
I don't get this too... Why no MIME types? new W3C format is SIMPLE, they could at least autoconvert those 4.x ones to new format.
I hope it gets FIXED on commercial release especially, no one (end users) want to know what the heck is MIME type and which program to run it.
I know geeks hate this but I want to click to a realplayer link and I don't want to get queried whether to open link with realplayer or save to disk (it is a LIVE radio argh!).
Yeap, dead... And if you gave your e-mail to them by any mean, as far as a foreigner I can undestand they mailed to us in a polite way that they will sell our adresses to another company:-(
Re:unscientific IE & Mozilla race
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I add another unscientific reply, well, it is real life baby:-)
I made the same test, counting seconds not the "program window" to appear, actual my.yahoo appear (BTW; I use highly graphical themes). Same happened.
Note the program I mention Mozilla 0.9 even that is, it is Netscape 6.01. Yea, that version loading Java w/o need!
So, we come to same point, it renders faster than IE. We can have a browser benchmark too! ZDNet has http://i-bench.zdnet.com/ibench/i-bench.htm
Hi,
Actually I bought this book from Amazon (my first and last one) but as I see OneClick boycott is still on, here is the same book from Barnes&Noble.
I have read the book and well, was really amazed. That can be your "point of view" for ALL ms happenings, their tactics etc.
Book is named "The Microsoft File" and is written by Wired author "Wendy Goldman Rohm". If you only read the "preview", I hope you will get me...
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnIn qu iry.asp?userid=2UCMDG5IRA&mscssid=RKSJM7VB13AV9MQV BTSHAQRMMSG99J57&isbn=0812927168
First of all, animated gifs... People started to talk about Internet advertising is dieing, CNET switched to "giga" flash advertising right at the middle of the page, Yahoo calls people to calm down... Than, "plop", a browser branded AOL/Netscape (don't hide from it, don't close your eyes) will ship and will have a option for disabling animated gifs which occupies %90 of Internet advertising...
So, lets go back to real world. While I am posting this, a "rack space managed hosting" advert flashes right at the top of the page... Well, I admit I looked to it right now, I saw it because it was animated. So, I don't think Slashdot is a animated gif hater, advanced coders like them could purge whole animated gifs in matter of seconds.
The second thing... Performance... It has REALLY long way to go. They admit it while "fanatics" even argue it is near fast as IE, talking about Windows kernel (yea, I was thinking that too, disappointed when heard Linux version is slower)...
So, performance is what kills mozilla... Plugins.. Was too hard to import windows filetype list to Mozilla? So at least we could select damn "always open that file with...."...
well, everytime I download and run Mozilla, Netscape 6.x updates, I get more disappointed.
Is it dead?
I don't get who gives "score" to articles but that article isn't funny and thats why even maccers frustrated about this takeover (in other words, no mo 3dfx anymore)
If Matrix shit is all about monopolized IT, that is a giant step
I have a philips DVD player, it is no way touched or hacked and it is region-free.
I am sure because I am not going to hack a deck for 2-3 movies.
Keep that in mind.
I don't believe ANY of those flamers here has ACTUALLY tried Netscape 6 FINAL!
I am testing it for 5 hours and it didn't crash.
I browsed over 100 sites, NONE appeared BAD
I don't have memory leak problems at all
So what the heck is the problem of you people??!?
Slashdot Mirror
I know, Clear Type is a 1980's invention (just check http://grc.com/cleartype.htm )but appearantly, as X-Setup for Windows shows here (you can consider it like a linuxconf wannabe allthough, it is good) Windows XP has Clear Type technology built in.
So, if they wanted to "wait" us for this amount of time just for drawing gray pixels near fonts, they should come with Clear Type like (and I repeat,I am deeply believing, it is just a 80's sub-cga gfx invention) technology.
I liked Webshots as a windows user and continueusly using it.
.NET software with it?"
Than a day came, I crashed it too bad and had to re-install...
Know what? The software which I used was "grown". Well, I tought they should have enhanced it... Than at Installation Screen, this question has been asked (and, as usual, clicked by default"
"Install Gator and new
I canceled installation directly.
For me, as a foreigner, it was an absolute shock. I mean, for a large company to add such known spyware to their "flagship" download. I feedbacked them too, via my own mail etc. calling them "morons".
Now I just start to understand what happens.
Netscape has a network based installer, it isn't a "junk", it is based on mozilla 0.9.2...
Where are those infos? I even could send a better submission.
Slashdot should have a Biased story flag.
I sure remember some scripts using ipchains got broken on 2.4 kernel upgraders, so that made Linux evil?
Firewalls, especially on closed system architectures plays too much with system internals. So when a system get updated, they can cause crashes. Notice Zonealarm and Blackice are "startup" programs. So, a end user installing those will get crashed and it will cause lots of hours to understand what is going on.
No need to say much, TheRegister article explains all.
Possibly off-topic but... If it is done (It shouldn't be done IMHO as IE still carries Mozilla/Compatible) and somehow moved to Netscape commercial builds, it will mean:
"We LOST it" for Industry.
Just a warning IMHO.
I don't agree it is a flamebait, it is a real thing :-) I don't even talk about FPS, I used 3dfx :*)
As IETF already works on it, MSN, Yahoo and Excite @home are trying to make a standard submission which can be approved by IETF later.
For more info http://www.imunified.org
Interesting that that work is not widely known.
The "nightmare" of Jabber is fatly written clients.
Windows 9x is widely used and they can't offer a client besides Delhi or Vbasic language.
http://www.jabbercentral.org/clients/ is a good resource of course. Also can you check the clients resource use?
One of the interesting fact is only Winjabber which is -goodly- written Delphi program can support my language. Also the language I speak about isn't Chinese with 3000 chars, it is a latin based Turkish alphabet (iso-8859-9).
IMHO Jabber needs a compact client which uses 1/10 footprint of those ICQ,MSN and has 10 times more features.
Than you can make windows users care as so that time Industry cares.
I feel "shock" over the many posters, boycotters etc.
I guess Adobe was considered as a "company like us" since they made Acrobat Reader available to *nix.
The real reason for them to make it available was not to break "multiplatform" spec of Acrobat.
Adobe just another huge closed source software company with an army of lawyers. I wanted to point this fact since it seems some of us thinks like above.
I just wonder, as cool people they are, Google people could change page bacground to black for 1 day.
Winzip etc. done that when ZIP creator died.
For people isn't used to this yet, groups.google.com=www.deja.com
It must be easy to do even!
I don't get this too... Why no MIME types? new W3C format is SIMPLE, they could at least autoconvert those 4.x ones to new format. I hope it gets FIXED on commercial release especially, no one (end users) want to know what the heck is MIME type and which program to run it. I know geeks hate this but I want to click to a realplayer link and I don't want to get queried whether to open link with realplayer or save to disk (it is a LIVE radio argh!).
Yeap, dead... And if you gave your e-mail to them by any mean, as far as a foreigner I can undestand they mailed to us in a polite way that they will sell our adresses to another company :-(
I add another unscientific reply, well, it is real life baby :-)
I made the same test, counting seconds not the "program window" to appear, actual my.yahoo appear (BTW; I use highly graphical themes). Same happened.
Note the program I mention Mozilla 0.9 even that is, it is Netscape 6.01. Yea, that version loading Java w/o need!
So, we come to same point, it renders faster than IE. We can have a browser benchmark too! ZDNet has http://i-bench.zdnet.com/ibench/i-bench.htm
I am looking through to see results.
Hi,
n qu iry.asp?userid=2UCMDG5IRA&mscssid=RKSJM7VB13AV9MQV BTSHAQRMMSG99J57&isbn=0812927168
Actually I bought this book from Amazon (my first and last one) but as I see OneClick boycott is still on, here is the same book from Barnes&Noble.
I have read the book and well, was really amazed. That can be your "point of view" for ALL ms happenings, their tactics etc.
Book is named "The Microsoft File" and is written by Wired author "Wendy Goldman Rohm". If you only read the "preview", I hope you will get me...
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnI
First of all, animated gifs... People started to talk about Internet advertising is dieing, CNET switched to "giga" flash advertising right at the middle of the page, Yahoo calls people to calm down... Than, "plop", a browser branded AOL/Netscape (don't hide from it, don't close your eyes) will ship and will have a option for disabling animated gifs which occupies %90 of Internet advertising... ...."...
So, lets go back to real world. While I am posting this, a "rack space managed hosting" advert flashes right at the top of the page... Well, I admit I looked to it right now, I saw it because it was animated. So, I don't think Slashdot is a animated gif hater, advanced coders like them could purge whole animated gifs in matter of seconds.
The second thing... Performance... It has REALLY long way to go. They admit it while "fanatics" even argue it is near fast as IE, talking about Windows kernel (yea, I was thinking that too, disappointed when heard Linux version is slower)...
So, performance is what kills mozilla... Plugins.. Was too hard to import windows filetype list to Mozilla? So at least we could select damn "always open that file with
well, everytime I download and run Mozilla, Netscape 6.x updates, I get more disappointed.
Is it dead?
I don't get who gives "score" to articles but that article isn't funny and thats why even maccers frustrated about this takeover (in other words, no mo 3dfx anymore) If Matrix shit is all about monopolized IT, that is a giant step
I have a philips DVD player, it is no way touched or hacked and it is region-free. I am sure because I am not going to hack a deck for 2-3 movies. Keep that in mind.
Hmm so you are also one of the nutheads like me that saw that netscape uses less mem than IE
I agree, no joke
I don't believe ANY of those flamers here has ACTUALLY tried Netscape 6 FINAL! I am testing it for 5 hours and it didn't crash. I browsed over 100 sites, NONE appeared BAD I don't have memory leak problems at all So what the heck is the problem of you people??!?