Actually, over time sports have become more violent and less honorable.
"What does it mean when I foul someone? It means I have 2 fouls left." was said by a basketball player.
People die and are seriously injured in games that didn't used to be so dangerous.
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If I were over Basketball, any foul could be the only foul you get. Say "Roll a dice" or "flip a coin" and if it comes up bad, then you are out on the first foul.
Similar for football. People are being crippled and they just play on.
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The message it sends is that sportsmanship is for suckers. You can hurt people without consequences.
Instead of worrying about people kneeling, we should worry about them being crippled and blowing their brains out.
I don't think of it as artificially inflating the cost. It's clear that the plastic industry and plastic consumers have externalized their costs on to everyone else.
If you want the police officer to be let go without penalty charge them with murder and watch them walk as the defense owns the prosecution under the law. Your odds of them going to jail are about 6 in a 1000.
The majority of cases are found to be "justified homicides".
---
I can guess we both agree that way to many police officers get away with killing people- especially unarmed civilians- and that body cameras are giving the victims justice.
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
manslaughter;
literaryslaying
"a brutal murder"
informal
a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience.
"my first job at the steel mill was murder"
synonyms: hell, hell on earth, a nightmare, an ordeal, a trial, misery, torture, agony
"driving there was murder"
verb verb: murder; 3rd person present: murders; past tense: murdered; past participle: murdered; gerund or present participle: murdering
1.
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
"somebody tried to murder Joe"
synonyms: kill, put to death, assassinate, execute, liquidate, eliminate, dispatch, butcher, slaughter, massacre, wipe out; More
However, we do have shared responsibility for crimes committed as a result of another crime, so he could also be on the hook if they find the officer guilty of crimes.
Any police officer shooting an unarmed civilian should no longer be allowed to work as a police officer. At that point, they are an identified risk- like not having a fence around your pool. Any lawsuits against an officer who already killed another unarmed civilian are going to result in much larger judgements.
To be satisfying, it should be the conclusion of the epic trilogy of trilogies.
I.e. 1 hero 2 hero shows flaws 3 hero fails 4 new hero 5 hero fails- low point of the entire story. 6 new hero redeems himself- back to 4 but with rising action/hope 7 new hero- things get better 8 new hero- failure things get worse but not as bad as 5. 9 resolution of the story, delivery of the epic's message. back to 1 or almost back to 1 (perhaps with insight as to why 1 wasn't perfect and now things are more mature).
This story takes a left turn at 7. After 8, there is *no way* to come to a reasonable conclusion by 9.
it only makes sense structurally if there are going to be 5 trilogies.
Keep in mind that police homicides reported to the FBI are 1/3 the police homicides reported in the news (and verified by independent outlets like fivethirtyeight.com).
There are *no* legal requirements to report ever police homicide.
On that note--- there are *no* legal requirements to report police swatting incidents. And if no one is harmed, it won't even be reported and counted in the newspapers.
Swatting incidents could be and probably are much higher than 400 per year.
---- That aside being said...
The officer should be removed from duty. An officer who kills an unarmed civilian has no business being on the street with a gun- they are a proven hazard and a risk.
If an officer who kills an unarmed civilian subsequently kills another armed civilians, the civil penalties should be much steeper for the police department (and thus city/municipality) who employs them.
should no longer be allowed on the streets with a gun.
Sure- it might just be unfortunate. But, it's a known risk factor at that point.
Like how you can't be sued for not having a fence around your pool. But once you are warned not having a fence around your pool is a risk, then you can be sued because you were warned and knew the risk.
And the gamer who sent the police needs to go to jail for manslaughter for several years.
When you cause a crime, you are responsible for the crime.
That's an interesting point. Rhodes was much more acceptable because he had paid his dues, was a regular character, and made sense to drop in the iron man suit.
I had stopped buying comic books due to exploding prices by the time Riri Williams put on the suit so I don't know if she was a side character for several years first or not.
Young females don't apparently buy comic books in large numbers.
And apparently minorities don't buy comic books in large numbers.
It is reasonable to say, "Well all the stars are white male so why would women and minorities buy the comics?" but shifting the focus drove away existing customers and hasn't resulted in enough extra sales to women and minorities.
That being said- the reasons I stopped buying comic books had to do with price and dystopic topics. When I was a kid they were a cheap product that cost the same as a Hershey almond bar or a bottle of coke at the convenience store.
Today, they are double to triple the price. Really, two comic books which I could read in 20 minutes cost as much as a book which will take hours to read. Comic books production values are too high for the child audience so children never pick up the habit.
Second- I was an iron man fan-- until the 5th or 7th time he fell off the wagon. I don't read comic book stories to feel unending misery for literally *years*. I want to be happy, inspired, surprised for my money.
On a minor note, I do not like it when they rebrand an existing I.P. When they take Thor and make it someone else, I have no interest in the story. Make a new hero- don't step on my childhood I.P.
I have the same issue with The Last Jedi. Make a *new* movie with new characters if you want to make a dystopic piece of crap in a "no win" universe. Don't ruin my childhood I.P. or I will stop giving you my money.
(and on that note: TLJ box office is down by over 50% per day compared to TFA- no one wants to see it twice- and fewer want to see it even once because its such a nasty, toxic piece of work. For bonus points- merchansiding orders are down 47% too. That's going to get Disney's attention- I hope they fired Kennedy and put someone who l actually likes the films and characters like the executive producer over the MCU).
But they don't leave the hero a quadriplegic in a bed with all her limbs cut off with no hope of regeneration while her husband has sex in the room with the woman who cut her limbs off because it turns out the hero molested the woman's son.
I doubt I will spend a penny on star wars I.P. the rest of my life.
And the box office returns are showing half the audience isn't going to the film. For the first 11 days, even without adjusting for 4% inflation, TLJ has pulled in 399 million while TFA pulled in 579 million. Almost 200 million less for the first 11 days alone. With marketing costs, industry analysts say TLJ needs to pull 800 million to break even.
After opening at 104 million (down from 119 million for TFA), it has subsequently dropped for 9 of the following 11 days. It was up 1 million one day, but down 27 million the day before that (day 10).
When I went on day 14 at 8pm, the theater was basically empty. No one wants to rewatch this film except youtube reviewers. It's not popular with most the fans and the casual people who are okay with it are seeing it a second time.
But the real stake is that merchandising orders are down 47%. Star Wars merchandise is going unsold and appearing in dollar stores (where you can pick up some nice ATAT models for a buck).
The data's all there on MOBI and there are multiple youtubers reporting the decline now.
---
I'm so negative.. I should say what would have fixed the movie
1) TFA didn't state that the resistance was down to 3 ships. That was a huge mistake. This film should have had a healthy republic in the background with the jedi activity being the focus but non-jedi characters being heroes too.
2) Give Rey a real training montage (3 minutes). Hell, the ACTRESS trained more than Rey did.
3) The Kylo/Rey story was interesting. The one good part of the movie (except for the wierd never before seen force telepathy). Kylo is an actual character with flaws who is well acted and reasonably well written. He should have absolutely broken Rey's heart in this film.
4) Lay out the "force balances things" in big bold statements clearly for the audience. Luke: "This doesn't make sense, your power is greater than any I've ever seen. How did you get so much power?" Rey: "I don't know- I didn't know my parents". Luke: "With training, you may be one of the most powerful jedi ever."
5) Get a basic plot mechanic to fix all the gaping plot holes you could drive a star destroyer thru sideways. * Why were the bombers able to magically appear right next to the main ship. No one saw them coming? - Instead show them coming- under heavy fire and taking heavy fire. - Explain why the entire bomber fleet mutineed when Poe turned off his personal Comm. * Think about why the ATAT would attack the big wall when it's surrounded by and set in soft rock. * Why can't they scan for cloaked ships? * Why can only one of them track things? * Given that only 1 ship is being tracked- why can't the hospital ship and frigate hyperspace away? * Why can't the rebels hyperspace away in small groups?
6) Not have the slowest chase ever portrayed in history.
7) Drop the entire codebreaker line.
8) Not introduce hyperspace attacks into the films because you know now they will never use them again when logically it should be a huge focus of military development.
9) Not kill Admiral Ackbar out of hand.
10) Drop the "Skywalker would sacrifice his life to save his father but he'll kill his nephew at the drop of a hat.
11) Pay for much of this by dropping the entire casino planet- we care more about horses than human slaves storyline. God what a waste of 30 minutes of screen time.
12) Get one of the best editors in hollywood and tighten this thing up.
13) Don't replay Hoth. Or *use* actual Hoth as the abandoned base.
I know they are going to mod you down so I'll say it a little more softly.
President Trump tweets something bizarre in order to distract everyone from other news less favorable to him.
His behavior towards his daughter is creepy.
He's accused by over a dozen women of sexually assaulting them and he said on tape that he sexually assaults women ("grabs them by the pussy") because he can get away with it because he's rich and famous.
I disagree on Russia. Mr. Trump has screamed in fear a couple times now including the "DO SOMETHING" tweet.
It may just be the thought of his son going to prison for a couple decades and becoming a felon (along with Mr. Trump's son-in-law) but given his very strong narcissist traits, I can't be sure of that. It may really be about him. Russia may really have succeeded in putting a manchurian candidate in as president ( for example, say they have a sex tape of him with a grossly under age girl). If he was exposed as being actively treasonous, that could be it for him and his wealth (tho he'd never see prison- he'll die before any possible trial could end).
Absolutely. Despise President Trump but if we are delivering amazon packages at a discount, we are killing local businesses, jobs, and economies (directly pumping money out of economies in one cycle instead of the usual 6-8 cycles).
Even a slow and partially broken clock may be occasionally correct.
Amazon is making things cheaper-- but the USPS should not be subsidizing it's business model.
Of course- since Mr. Trump said it, I doubt it's true. That man lies so much that he has no credibility.
If he said the sky was blue, I'd suddenly have to take a look at it to verify that.
The originals had Lucas' vision, and his ex Wife and some awesome editors to save it.
As lucas filmed it, it was a clunky piece of crap- but it was a diamond in the rough and as a group they made it something special.
The originals had the type of flaws every film has. Films are not reality. People rarely talk in reality like they do in films (not as quick witted for one thing- no second takes in real life either).
I agree entirely- the originals had bad dialogue and the acting was average. But there was chemistry between the main three leads and that made up for a lot. And in the market it appeared in, it was fresh again (after a nearly 30 year break from that style of story).
Now... How did the bombers suddenly appear next to the lead ship without being noticed?
Cloaked?
Okay- so the First Order has anti cloaking technology but doesn't use it when they are in battle.
---
Looking at the rest... the bombs were rendered with gravity. it was dumb. The bombers were like tissue paper compared to B-52's. Bombers are normally built tough. That's their role- to slowly approach the enemy and then drop bombs.
Tho to be honest- lack of missiles after 20 years of technological advance is a bit meh. It's like making a movie in the 2015's where the plot depends on the characters not being able to be able to get in touch with each other with.. cell phones.
--- They didn't address why the first order didn't pull in any other ships to cut off the rebel fleet. They didn't address how the republic went from being restored after the return of the jedi to having only 3 ships left after a series of movies showing tremendous victories. They didn't address where snope came from after palpatine died. They didn't address why the first order was so powerful after repeated losses. They didn't address how Rose could fall so deeply in love with Finn in 18 hours. They didn't address why finn wasn't blown to pieces in his approach. They didn't address why the guns melted and then all further damage to his incredibly rickety ship (falling apart- you could put your foot thru it) ceased. They didn't address how the rebel fleet was faster... and so the empire could only pace it-not slowly fall behind. They didn't address why the empire was suddenly so scared to lose a few tie fighters when they had literally hundreds (at least 70 on each star destroyer which are like mile long air craft carriers plus whatever was on the main ship). I mean send over a few score TIE fighters, take out even one engine and then you can catch up. It was "just so". I'll stop here.. but man, there are multiple plot holes you could put a star destroyer thru sideways.
--
The craptastic universe trope was what I disliked most. I would dislike it if it were a new film.
EVERYTHING YOU DO IS WRONG.
Choose to be nice to the aliens? They are killers and you should have killed them first. Choose to be mean to the aliens? They were nice and going to save you from a supernova and now you die because you attacked them.
Go on a mission? It's pointless. Attack and win? Really that was a loss.
It was that part that violated the basic message of hope that was always star wars.
I'm old and not a huge fan (saw the movies- read a half dozen books- never played the mmorg- etc.) but it's not just old people. It's not just men. You can see a wall of videos from people on Youtube of all genders and ages who really hate the film.
It's some new dystopic film (like man of steel/batman v superman) with a star wars theme slapped over it. If it didn't have a star wars theme, it would have made Valerian look like a blockbuster.
More in common with Kelvin star trek and DCU movies.
Marvel is very popular with the fans with consistently high audience ratings on all RT, MC, IMDB, and CinemaScore.
And, it's also pretty good to excellent with critics.
The critical ratings (and delay of ratings) for DCU movies and the critical ratings for the last jedi have me deeply suspicious that with a 500+ million dollar marketing revenue and the carrot of early access to the movie (and hence Youtube revenue) that the large corporations have coopted the critical reviewing community.
I only trust reviews made after the movie opens by critics who paid to see the film now.
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Actually, over time sports have become more violent and less honorable.
"What does it mean when I foul someone? It means I have 2 fouls left." was said by a basketball player.
People die and are seriously injured in games that didn't used to be so dangerous.
---
If I were over Basketball, any foul could be the only foul you get. Say "Roll a dice" or "flip a coin" and if it comes up bad, then you are out on the first foul.
Similar for football. People are being crippled and they just play on.
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The message it sends is that sportsmanship is for suckers. You can hurt people without consequences.
Instead of worrying about people kneeling, we should worry about them being crippled and blowing their brains out.
Well said. You should be the +5 insightful whereas the angry parent poster deserves a "1".
I don't think of it as artificially inflating the cost. It's clear that the plastic industry and plastic consumers have externalized their costs on to everyone else.
Your continued response shows you do care.
You are certainly no honey badger.
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If you want the police officer to be let go without penalty charge them with murder and watch them walk as the defense owns the prosecution under the law. Your odds of them going to jail are about 6 in a 1000.
The majority of cases are found to be "justified homicides".
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I can guess we both agree that way to many police officers get away with killing people- especially unarmed civilians- and that body cameras are giving the victims justice.
But a murder charge is a very specific thing.
We are talking about a legal matter. The police man definitely killed an unarmed civilian. The police officer did not murder the unarmed civilian.
Of course by responding, you did continue to discuss this with me.
So what's it going to be? ... continue to discuss this, or long sullen, silence?
As this movie opens around the world, the protests rage.
That is a valid second definition.
Still doesn't apply to the policeman.
murÂder
ËmÉ(TM)rdÉ(TM)r/
noun
noun: murder; plural noun: murders
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
manslaughter;
literaryslaying
"a brutal murder"
informal
a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience.
"my first job at the steel mill was murder"
synonyms: hell, hell on earth, a nightmare, an ordeal, a trial, misery, torture, agony
"driving there was murder"
verb
verb: murder; 3rd person present: murders; past tense: murdered; past participle: murdered; gerund or present participle: murdering
1.
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
"somebody tried to murder Joe"
synonyms: kill, put to death, assassinate, execute, liquidate, eliminate, dispatch, butcher, slaughter, massacre, wipe out; More
The police officer did not know the victim, didn't wake up that day planning to kill that victim or anyone else.
I've seen video of many police shootings. They have been trained to be on a hair trigger so they can "get home alive tonight".
That training course was banned but its influence still corrupts police officers to this day.
The thing police don't realize is, the more citizens they kill- the more dangerous their job becomes.
The police officer who killed the person had no malice.
I agree the swatter had malice but lacked intent to kill. That would be closer to 2nd degree murder (killing because of emotion).
This would more like "Reckless Endangerment".
Murder is when you kill someone with malice.
However, we do have shared responsibility for crimes committed as a result of another crime, so he could also be on the hook if they find the officer guilty of crimes.
Any police officer shooting an unarmed civilian should no longer be allowed to work as a police officer. At that point, they are an identified risk- like not having a fence around your pool. Any lawsuits against an officer who already killed another unarmed civilian are going to result in much larger judgements.
From what I read elsewhere, the kid has been prosecuted and has spent time in jail.
I get the impression, he may not be perfectly mentally healthy.
It shouldn't be a repeat of the first stories.
To be satisfying, it should be the conclusion of the epic trilogy of trilogies.
I.e.
1 hero
2 hero shows flaws
3 hero fails
4 new hero
5 hero fails- low point of the entire story.
6 new hero redeems himself- back to 4 but with rising action/hope
7 new hero- things get better
8 new hero- failure things get worse but not as bad as 5.
9 resolution of the story, delivery of the epic's message. back to 1 or almost back to 1 (perhaps with insight as to why 1 wasn't perfect and now things are more mature).
This story takes a left turn at 7. After 8, there is *no way* to come to a reasonable conclusion by 9.
it only makes sense structurally if there are going to be 5 trilogies.
Keep in mind that police homicides reported to the FBI are 1/3 the police homicides reported in the news (and verified by independent outlets like fivethirtyeight.com).
There are *no* legal requirements to report ever police homicide.
On that note--- there are *no* legal requirements to report police swatting incidents. And if no one is harmed, it won't even be reported and counted in the newspapers.
Swatting incidents could be and probably are much higher than 400 per year.
----
That aside being said...
The officer should be removed from duty. An officer who kills an unarmed civilian has no business being on the street with a gun- they are a proven hazard and a risk.
If an officer who kills an unarmed civilian subsequently kills another armed civilians, the civil penalties should be much steeper for the police department (and thus city/municipality) who employs them.
should no longer be allowed on the streets with a gun.
Sure- it might just be unfortunate. But, it's a known risk factor at that point.
Like how you can't be sued for not having a fence around your pool. But once you are warned not having a fence around your pool is a risk, then you can be sued because you were warned and knew the risk.
And the gamer who sent the police needs to go to jail for manslaughter for several years.
When you cause a crime, you are responsible for the crime.
An even stronger reaction than in the U.S.
That's an interesting point. Rhodes was much more acceptable because he had paid his dues, was a regular character, and made sense to drop in the iron man suit.
I had stopped buying comic books due to exploding prices by the time Riri Williams put on the suit so I don't know if she was a side character for several years first or not.
Young females don't apparently buy comic books in large numbers.
And apparently minorities don't buy comic books in large numbers.
It is reasonable to say, "Well all the stars are white male so why would women and minorities buy the comics?" but shifting the focus drove away existing customers and hasn't resulted in enough extra sales to women and minorities.
That being said- the reasons I stopped buying comic books had to do with price and dystopic topics. When I was a kid they were a cheap product that cost the same as a Hershey almond bar or a bottle of coke at the convenience store.
Today, they are double to triple the price. Really, two comic books which I could read in 20 minutes cost as much as a book which will take hours to read. Comic books production values are too high for the child audience so children never pick up the habit.
Second- I was an iron man fan-- until the 5th or 7th time he fell off the wagon. I don't read comic book stories to feel unending misery for literally *years*. I want to be happy, inspired, surprised for my money.
On a minor note, I do not like it when they rebrand an existing I.P. When they take Thor and make it someone else, I have no interest in the story. Make a new hero- don't step on my childhood I.P.
I have the same issue with The Last Jedi. Make a *new* movie with new characters if you want to make a dystopic piece of crap in a "no win" universe. Don't ruin my childhood I.P. or I will stop giving you my money.
(and on that note: TLJ box office is down by over 50% per day compared to TFA- no one wants to see it twice- and fewer want to see it even once because its such a nasty, toxic piece of work. For bonus points- merchansiding orders are down 47% too. That's going to get Disney's attention- I hope they fired Kennedy and put someone who l actually likes the films and characters like the executive producer over the MCU).
An act two presents challenges. Things look dark.
But they don't leave the hero a quadriplegic in a bed with all her limbs cut off with no hope of regeneration while her husband has sex in the room with the woman who cut her limbs off because it turns out the hero molested the woman's son.
I doubt I will spend a penny on star wars I.P. the rest of my life.
And the box office returns are showing half the audience isn't going to the film. For the first 11 days, even without adjusting for 4% inflation, TLJ has pulled in 399 million while TFA pulled in 579 million. Almost 200 million less for the first 11 days alone. With marketing costs, industry analysts say TLJ needs to pull 800 million to break even.
After opening at 104 million (down from 119 million for TFA), it has subsequently dropped for 9 of the following 11 days. It was up 1 million one day, but down 27 million the day before that (day 10).
When I went on day 14 at 8pm, the theater was basically empty. No one wants to rewatch this film except youtube reviewers.
It's not popular with most the fans and the casual people who are okay with it are seeing it a second time.
But the real stake is that merchandising orders are down 47%. Star Wars merchandise is going unsold and appearing in dollar stores (where you can pick up some nice ATAT models for a buck).
The data's all there on MOBI and there are multiple youtubers reporting the decline now.
---
I'm so negative.. I should say what would have fixed the movie
1) TFA didn't state that the resistance was down to 3 ships. That was a huge mistake. This film should have had a healthy republic in the background with the jedi activity being the focus but non-jedi characters being heroes too.
2) Give Rey a real training montage (3 minutes). Hell, the ACTRESS trained more than Rey did.
3) The Kylo/Rey story was interesting. The one good part of the movie (except for the wierd never before seen force telepathy). Kylo is an actual character with flaws who is well acted and reasonably well written. He should have absolutely broken Rey's heart in this film.
4) Lay out the "force balances things" in big bold statements clearly for the audience. Luke: "This doesn't make sense, your power is greater than any I've ever seen. How did you get so much power?" Rey: "I don't know- I didn't know my parents". Luke: "With training, you may be one of the most powerful jedi ever."
5) Get a basic plot mechanic to fix all the gaping plot holes you could drive a star destroyer thru sideways.
* Why were the bombers able to magically appear right next to the main ship. No one saw them coming?
- Instead show them coming- under heavy fire and taking heavy fire.
- Explain why the entire bomber fleet mutineed when Poe turned off his personal Comm.
* Think about why the ATAT would attack the big wall when it's surrounded by and set in soft rock.
* Why can't they scan for cloaked ships?
* Why can only one of them track things?
* Given that only 1 ship is being tracked- why can't the hospital ship and frigate hyperspace away?
* Why can't the rebels hyperspace away in small groups?
6) Not have the slowest chase ever portrayed in history.
7) Drop the entire codebreaker line.
8) Not introduce hyperspace attacks into the films because you know now they will never use them again when logically it should be a huge focus of military development.
9) Not kill Admiral Ackbar out of hand.
10) Drop the "Skywalker would sacrifice his life to save his father but he'll kill his nephew at the drop of a hat.
11) Pay for much of this by dropping the entire casino planet- we care more about horses than human slaves storyline. God what a waste of 30 minutes of screen time.
12) Get one of the best editors in hollywood and tighten this thing up.
13) Don't replay Hoth. Or *use* actual Hoth as the abandoned base.
I know they are going to mod you down so I'll say it a little more softly.
President Trump tweets something bizarre in order to distract everyone from other news less favorable to him.
His behavior towards his daughter is creepy.
He's accused by over a dozen women of sexually assaulting them and he said on tape that he sexually assaults women ("grabs them by the pussy") because he can get away with it because he's rich and famous.
I disagree on Russia. Mr. Trump has screamed in fear a couple times now including the "DO SOMETHING" tweet.
It may just be the thought of his son going to prison for a couple decades and becoming a felon (along with Mr. Trump's son-in-law) but given his very strong narcissist traits, I can't be sure of that. It may really be about him. Russia may really have succeeded in putting a manchurian candidate in as president ( for example, say they have a sex tape of him with a grossly under age girl). If he was exposed as being actively treasonous, that could be it for him and his wealth (tho he'd never see prison- he'll die before any possible trial could end).
Absolutely. Despise President Trump but if we are delivering amazon packages at a discount, we are killing local businesses, jobs, and economies (directly pumping money out of economies in one cycle instead of the usual 6-8 cycles).
Even a slow and partially broken clock may be occasionally correct.
Amazon is making things cheaper-- but the USPS should not be subsidizing it's business model.
Of course- since Mr. Trump said it, I doubt it's true. That man lies so much that he has no credibility.
If he said the sky was blue, I'd suddenly have to take a look at it to verify that.
The originals had Lucas' vision, and his ex Wife and some awesome editors to save it.
As lucas filmed it, it was a clunky piece of crap- but it was a diamond in the rough and as a group they made it something special.
The originals had the type of flaws every film has. Films are not reality. People rarely talk in reality like they do in films (not as quick witted for one thing- no second takes in real life either).
I agree entirely- the originals had bad dialogue and the acting was average. But there was chemistry between the main three leads and that made up for a lot. And in the market it appeared in, it was fresh again (after a nearly 30 year break from that style of story).
Now...
How did the bombers suddenly appear next to the lead ship without being noticed?
Cloaked?
Okay- so the First Order has anti cloaking technology but doesn't use it when they are in battle.
---
Looking at the rest... the bombs were rendered with gravity. it was dumb.
The bombers were like tissue paper compared to B-52's. Bombers are normally built tough. That's their role- to slowly approach the enemy and then drop bombs.
Tho to be honest- lack of missiles after 20 years of technological advance is a bit meh. It's like making a movie in the 2015's where the plot depends on the characters not being able to be able to get in touch with each other with.. cell phones.
---
They didn't address why the first order didn't pull in any other ships to cut off the rebel fleet.
They didn't address how the republic went from being restored after the return of the jedi to having only 3 ships left after a series of movies showing tremendous victories.
They didn't address where snope came from after palpatine died.
They didn't address why the first order was so powerful after repeated losses.
They didn't address how Rose could fall so deeply in love with Finn in 18 hours.
They didn't address why finn wasn't blown to pieces in his approach.
They didn't address why the guns melted and then all further damage to his incredibly rickety ship (falling apart- you could put your foot thru it) ceased.
They didn't address how the rebel fleet was faster... and so the empire could only pace it-not slowly fall behind.
They didn't address why the empire was suddenly so scared to lose a few tie fighters when they had literally hundreds (at least 70 on each star destroyer which are like mile long air craft carriers plus whatever was on the main ship). I mean send over a few score TIE fighters, take out even one engine and then you can catch up. It was "just so".
I'll stop here.. but man, there are multiple plot holes you could put a star destroyer thru sideways.
--
The craptastic universe trope was what I disliked most. I would dislike it if it were a new film.
EVERYTHING YOU DO IS WRONG.
Choose to be nice to the aliens? They are killers and you should have killed them first.
Choose to be mean to the aliens? They were nice and going to save you from a supernova and now you die because you attacked them.
Go on a mission? It's pointless.
Attack and win? Really that was a loss.
It was that part that violated the basic message of hope that was always star wars.
I'm old and not a huge fan (saw the movies- read a half dozen books- never played the mmorg- etc.) but it's not just old people. It's not just men. You can see a wall of videos from people on Youtube of all genders and ages who really hate the film.
It's some new dystopic film (like man of steel/batman v superman) with a star wars theme slapped over it. If it didn't have a star wars theme, it would have made Valerian look like a blockbuster.
And what I'm saying is- if this movie was good, I'd be seeing it a dozen times over the next couple months in my 50's.
But crap is crap.
If anything- I'm hoping for early onset senility so I can forget this.
Fortunately, recent memories go first while long term memories stick around longer.
No, not like the recent marvel films.
More in common with Kelvin star trek and DCU movies.
Marvel is very popular with the fans with consistently high audience ratings on all RT, MC, IMDB, and CinemaScore.
And, it's also pretty good to excellent with critics.
The critical ratings (and delay of ratings) for DCU movies and the critical ratings for the last jedi have me deeply suspicious that with a 500+ million dollar marketing revenue and the carrot of early access to the movie (and hence Youtube revenue) that the large corporations have coopted the critical reviewing community.
I only trust reviews made after the movie opens by critics who paid to see the film now.