Are you talking about classic 24" to 36" long tubes? The light from them is pretty bad.
The modern CFL's draw 13 to 17 watts. The LED draws about 2 watts for half the light. So 4 watts for the same light. They look good for about a year and then, the 75 watt bulb produces less light-- say 60? Then it slowly declines over the next 5 years.
They just are getting to expensive and someone has to own the business rules. And it's not contractors who may become even more expensive in the future.
Very dim. About 50% of the amount of light they advertised to put out.
Even adding a lot of these wouldn't increase the light above "dismal" level-- the intensity of the light was just lower than that put out by CFL and incandescent.
I want LED to work-- they last a long time, they use no power, and they have no mercury.
These might be okay for a porch light-- dim but always on.
If their values dominated, there would be a lot less creations. Even the people who disagree with copyright and ignore it benefit from it because of the extra high quality creations that they enjoy.
And since I think many of them are to poor to afford a fair price, I don't think it costs the copyright holder very much either.
However, you don't get to pick your laws in a society. You can lobby to have them changed but you are bound by the social contract. If a majority say something is illegal, then you may be punished for ignoring them. Democracy, dictatorships, even Anarchy always result in the tyranny of SOME majority over some minority. The question is only about how peaceful, how just, how unjust or how violent the decision making process is.
Currently our democratic system in america is losing to corporations and becoming a lot less democratic.
The next time you are escorted out the door after giving notice, or your bosses "scummily" take away all your access before telling you that you are fired...
I've never consistently gotten the correct threads when I have more than one page and say show me the next page. I see a certain thread in the first 50, then hit page down and there it is again. The only way I've been able to compensate is filter to a high enough level that all threads fit on one page and then drill down.
And the biggest problem I have is lack of editing.
Just 15 minutes-- or better yet- hold all versions so people can see what you posted first so you can't lie but CAN fix stupid errors.
Also, there is no way to see level 0 posts only. That's very helpful when you want to up-mod folks who were silenced by a bad mod.
People will create because that is what people do.
They do not have to be compensated to create.
However-- It's the difference between Star Wreck and a Hollywood picture.
The difference between an enthusiastic amateur and a professional.
If you are happy with free 90%-95% complete creations then cool.
You are not going to get people to slave over that last 5-10% to get things "perfect" without giving them compensation because people have to eat and that last 5-10% takes a lot of time to do.
SL works because the artistic creators can work many more hours on their creations because they are compensated in real money for them.
Copyright is supposed to give a VERY SHORT and TEMPORARY period where creators make new stuff but then their stuff goes to public domain for society. That's fair- it's good for them and good for us.
It's very funny in a way available to people who are not fans of Hellboy.
Tons and tons of character stuff that would be just as fun to see a second or third time because they are not "suprise" jokes, they are character interaction humor.
I say 9.5 because the editing is a bit choppy in the first half of the movie (a bit "jarring" at time how fast a scene will end/change-- I think they shaved off 3-5 seconds too much a few times).
A huge amount of wealth was destroyed and no one will be willing to extend credit to anyone that doesn't have excellent credit. If you can't buy things on credit, you have to buy them out of your CURRENT income. So either things get cheaper or they don't sell at all.
The U.S. was never isolated from other countries. That's why Smoot Hawley had such a huge impact.
Given the amount of money destroyed and the tightening of credit, we are looking at a very harsh recession (68-80 levels) with a tiny chance of a depression. Once we get any deflation, it will feed on itself-- why buy for $100 this month what you can get in three months for $90?
The other option is for the fled to try to inflate us out of our debts (Which they are doing now). That's even uglier than deflation (wheel barrows of money- our retirement savings become worthless-- buy fast now- because tomorrow it's going to be $1 more- - sort of like Brazil a few years ago where people shopped every day).
It'll take 2-3 years to reach the "bottom" either way. Berneke is absolutely terrified of deflation from some of his speeches so perhaps he'll go the hyperinflation route. That would help me with regard to my house and help anyone buying solar today.
The lawyer gets the cheap labor but we STILL pay full price.
If it was $1500 for a houses legal paperwork before, it's still $1500.
But the lawyer is using foreign labor at a cost of maybe $600 total to do 4 contracts, then just reviewing the 4 contracts and signing them.
Same for the companies.
I don't mind cheap foreign labor so much when those cost savings flow through to the consumer.
For example... You are making $50k per year and spending $30k a year on products. You have to take a pay cut to $45k a year because of foreign competition. (OW!) But! You find you are getting even more total products than you used to get on your lower salary because the car that used to be $15k is $14k and the legal papers that were $1500 are $150.
Right now the executive class has a moat built around them-- they are keeping the savings as bonuses and compensation. I'm not getting it as a shareholder OR an employee. It's time for some serious 90% taxes on the executive classes again like we used to have pre WWII. And if they don't like it, well they can move to india or mexico or china and work from there and pay the local taxes, etc.
Actually expecting some severe DEFLATION over the next three years.
My point being that once unemployment hits a certain level here and we get deflation, the american money hose to other countries is going to stop in multiple ways.
I'm really worried of something like Smoot Hawley happening again.
India is a fine country. I work with many indians and they seem like decent guys. For a while they were all superbrains but now they are increasingly average guys.
I look forward to the indian economy coming on line and you guys making as much money as we do.
The current situation is getting a bit intolerable. If *American* executives want to take up to 80% of their labor and have it work in other countries, without the labor protections of american law, then they should have to go live in those other countries and be paid the wages of those countries. As a SHAREHOLDER, I do no see why I should pay an american executive 70 times as much as an indian executive.
America is temporarily over priced. In part because of those executives efforts in pumping wealth and jobs out of the country, that's going to fix itself violently pretty soon. Once america goes into a hard bear market and has 12%+ inflation, you are not going to find a lot of sympathy for companies shipping jobs away.
Companies used to be part of the social fabric. We gave them certain benefits and they gave society certain benefits. They have changed the contract- the executive class is now blatantly looting both the companies and society for wealth and even screwing over the shareholders.
I think you will see some severe changes in response to this over the next 4-8 years.
I agree but the discretionary part of the budget gets smaller every year.
To truly cut spending, the government will have to cut some meat. Those little dinky pork projects they sneak in don't amount to much compared to Medicare, SS, and defense.
The problem is they need to make some very hard decisions and none of them want to do so.
State and city governments are no better. They just keep raising taxes.
That's all going to end very painfully when property values fall 33% in two years or less.
Obama is a liberal Obama will raise taxes on those making $225k & up (and I think $90k & Up) That means a lot of powerful wealthy people are going to be doing a lot of despicable things to try and keep him from being elected. For them the Bush years have been great. The top 1% has gotten tax cuts so great that the top 5% shows tax cuts even tho taxes are up on the top 2-5%. There are a lot of VALID reasons to oppose Obama because he IS a liberal. Or you can oppose him because he is socially liberal.
McCain is a conservative. I would have supported him but I saw a very clear moment in 2005 when he said, "I want to be president and I'm going to play ball with the wealthy and the corporations and the military industrial complex". He flipped on several key issues at that point and became Bush-3. I don't want to wait around 2-3 years until he reverts to being the McCain that I supported while the country goes deeper into debt and gets into a couple more pointless wars.
There are a lot of VALID reasons to oppose Obama because he IS a neo-con republican now. Or you can oppose him because is socially conservative.
Both candidates are going to be screwed as first term presidents by a vicious bear market akin to 1968-1980.
But do the decency to go to each man's site and read up on them. Clinton & Their ilk will create a lot of lies about McCain. Whisper campaigns. Play up how he divorced his first wife. Etc. Karl Rove and his ilk will create a lot of lies about Obama. Play up "Hussein". Plant whisper campaigns that he is a muslim. Etc.
If you really are a christian, shouldn't you be moral and ethical and really find out the truth about Obama rather than listening to gossip and lies? This is a man tha said he got down on his knees and accepted Jesus Christ when he was doing community work almost 30 years ago. He's been going to christian churches for all that time. And suddenly he's islamic? Bullshit.
I don't believe my self but I think it is more the dogma of christianity than the good works. Some of the dogma is silly but the basic meme is kind and moral.
Anyway... CHECK THE FACTS on BOTH men. Both are decent intelligent men. I'm going to vote Obama because he inspires me. He makes me believe in America as the shining beacon on the hill- that country where anyone can be president. The country that is tough as nails and a scrappy fighter but basically decent, honest, and fair.
I think I see how they felt about Kennedy. I sure hope Obama is elected and doesn't screw it all up with some stupid tragic flaw.
Over the last three years, I have found the web to be superior to my doctors' knowledge. I have to gently ask them questions to guide them to thinking about the information or looking it up. I get the definite impression that the constraints insurance companies put on them or the stream of 16 patients a day causes them to overlook certain symptoms unless you highlight them.
You have to be very careful about the information tho because a) some people are goofy. b) as medical companies are becoming aware of this they are putting propaganda out. c) you need to be aware if you are reasonable or a hypocondriac. I'm reasonable so this works. A person who is a hypocondriac would probably just make themselves fearful of a lot of stuff.
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Are you talking about classic 24" to 36" long tubes? The light from them is pretty bad.
The modern CFL's draw 13 to 17 watts. The LED draws about 2 watts for half the light. So 4 watts for the same light.
They look good for about a year and then, the 75 watt bulb produces less light-- say 60? Then it slowly declines over the next 5 years.
I use CFL's but I mix in some incandescent.
At my company the quality is good.
They just are getting to expensive and someone has to own the business rules. And it's not contractors who may become even more expensive in the future.
Very old panels (over 25 years) still produce a good amount of power. A lot are "retired" at 75% output and you used to be able to pick them up cheap.
The question is... how much did they have to cut from the words?
Clearly they are trying to do a faithful adaption. I 'll see twice even if it is horrible.
Very dim. About 50% of the amount of light they advertised to put out.
Even adding a lot of these wouldn't increase the light above "dismal" level-- the intensity of the light was just lower than that put out by CFL and incandescent.
I want LED to work-- they last a long time, they use no power, and they have no mercury.
These might be okay for a porch light-- dim but always on.
This is important to learn in life. When you reject someone that loves you, then they hate you. As long as they hate you, they still love you.
Once they don't care any more then it's over.
It discovered this all on my own when going through a bad breakup so that part of the comment particularly leapt out from the page to me.
I've known some women that really liked sex-- both exotic dancers (who each had 3-4 children).
Ultimately- they are just horrible for a stable type of guy. I'm too much of a "love" guy to be compatible with a "hot sex" type of girl.
I agree with your point tho.
Clearly "real women" do. Or else you would never see them in porn.
Some just like the money and fun or having lots of hot sex without a lot of emotional commitment.
I disagree Jesse.
If their values dominated, there would be a lot less creations. Even the people who disagree with copyright and ignore it benefit from it because of the extra high quality creations that they enjoy.
And since I think many of them are to poor to afford a fair price, I don't think it costs the copyright holder very much either.
However, you don't get to pick your laws in a society. You can lobby to have them changed but you are bound by the social contract. If a majority say something is illegal, then you may be punished for ignoring them. Democracy, dictatorships, even Anarchy always result in the tyranny of SOME majority over some minority. The question is only about how peaceful, how just, how unjust or how violent the decision making process is.
Currently our democratic system in america is losing to corporations and becoming a lot less democratic.
The next time you are escorted out the door after giving notice, or your bosses "scummily" take away all your access before telling you that you are fired...
You'll understand why.
I've never consistently gotten the correct threads when I have more than one page and say show me the next page. I see a certain thread in the first 50, then hit page down and there it is again. The only way I've been able to compensate is filter to a high enough level that all threads fit on one page and then drill down.
And the biggest problem I have is lack of editing.
Just 15 minutes-- or better yet- hold all versions so people can see what you posted first so you can't lie but CAN fix stupid errors.
Also, there is no way to see level 0 posts only. That's very helpful when you want to up-mod folks who were silenced by a bad mod.
People will create because that is what people do.
They do not have to be compensated to create.
However-- It's the difference between Star Wreck and a Hollywood picture.
The difference between an enthusiastic amateur and a professional.
If you are happy with free 90%-95% complete creations then cool.
You are not going to get people to slave over that last 5-10% to get things "perfect" without giving them compensation because people have to eat and that last 5-10% takes a lot of time to do.
SL works because the artistic creators can work many more hours on their creations because they are compensated in real money for them.
Copyright is supposed to give a VERY SHORT and TEMPORARY period where creators make new stuff but then their stuff goes to public domain for society. That's fair- it's good for them and good for us.
"Forever less one day" is not fair.
SL is an artificial economy. If you can copy items and easily add new 'land', then those things have no value.
Replacements for SL will have trouble attracting creators as SL has or those items having any "status" or "$$" value.
Put another way-- I can play EQ on a simulated server and give myself anything. But what would the point be?
The original, I gave a 7. This one, I give a 9.5.
It's very funny in a way available to people who are not fans of Hellboy.
Tons and tons of character stuff that would be just as fun to see a second or third time because they are not "suprise" jokes, they are character interaction humor.
I say 9.5 because the editing is a bit choppy in the first half of the movie (a bit "jarring" at time how fast a scene will end/change-- I think they shaved off 3-5 seconds too much a few times).
A huge amount of wealth was destroyed and no one will be willing to extend credit to anyone that doesn't have excellent credit. If you can't buy things on credit, you have to buy them out of your CURRENT income. So either things get cheaper or they don't sell at all.
The U.S. was never isolated from other countries. That's why Smoot Hawley had such a huge impact.
Given the amount of money destroyed and the tightening of credit, we are looking at a very harsh recession (68-80 levels) with a tiny chance of a depression. Once we get any deflation, it will feed on itself-- why buy for $100 this month what you can get in three months for $90?
The other option is for the fled to try to inflate us out of our debts (Which they are doing now). That's even uglier than deflation (wheel barrows of money- our retirement savings become worthless-- buy fast now- because tomorrow it's going to be $1 more- - sort of like Brazil a few years ago where people shopped every day).
It'll take 2-3 years to reach the "bottom" either way. Berneke is absolutely terrified of deflation from some of his speeches so perhaps he'll go the hyperinflation route. That would help me with regard to my house and help anyone buying solar today.
Anyway, that's why I think that.
And the problem is this.
The lawyer gets the cheap labor but we STILL pay full price.
If it was $1500 for a houses legal paperwork before, it's still $1500.
But the lawyer is using foreign labor at a cost of maybe $600 total to do 4 contracts, then just reviewing the 4 contracts and signing them.
Same for the companies.
I don't mind cheap foreign labor so much when those cost savings flow through to the consumer.
For example...
You are making $50k per year and spending $30k a year on products.
You have to take a pay cut to $45k a year because of foreign competition. (OW!)
But! You find you are getting even more total products than you used to get on your lower salary because the car that used to be $15k is $14k and the legal papers that were $1500 are $150.
Right now the executive class has a moat built around them-- they are keeping the savings as bonuses and compensation. I'm not getting it as a shareholder OR an employee. It's time for some serious 90% taxes on the executive classes again like we used to have pre WWII. And if they don't like it, well they can move to india or mexico or china and work from there and pay the local taxes, etc.
They are both going to have severe pain over the next two to three years. A lot of folks are going to be more worried about food than cable.
Another slashdot moment...
Once we have 12% UNEMPLOYMENT. Sheesh.
Actually expecting some severe DEFLATION over the next three years.
My point being that once unemployment hits a certain level here and we get deflation, the american money hose to other countries is going to stop in multiple ways.
I'm really worried of something like Smoot Hawley happening again.
Xaxa,
India is a fine country.
I work with many indians and they seem like decent guys. For a while they were all superbrains but now they are increasingly average guys.
I look forward to the indian economy coming on line and you guys making as much money as we do.
The current situation is getting a bit intolerable. If *American* executives want to take up to 80% of their labor and have it work in other countries, without the labor protections of american law, then they should have to go live in those other countries and be paid the wages of those countries. As a SHAREHOLDER, I do no see why I should pay an american executive 70 times as much as an indian executive.
America is temporarily over priced. In part because of those executives efforts in pumping wealth and jobs out of the country, that's going to fix itself violently pretty soon. Once america goes into a hard bear market and has 12%+ inflation, you are not going to find a lot of sympathy for companies shipping jobs away.
Companies used to be part of the social fabric. We gave them certain benefits and they gave society certain benefits. They have changed the contract- the executive class is now blatantly looting both the companies and society for wealth and even screwing over the shareholders.
I think you will see some severe changes in response to this over the next 4-8 years.
I think it's time for one of those incredibly through audits.
They kind that includes a prostate cancer test.
See, we have to preserve our purity. of. essence. and repopulate the planet.
I agree but the discretionary part of the budget gets smaller every year.
To truly cut spending, the government will have to cut some meat. Those little dinky pork projects they sneak in don't amount to much compared to Medicare, SS, and defense.
The problem is they need to make some very hard decisions and none of them want to do so.
State and city governments are no better. They just keep raising taxes.
That's all going to end very painfully when property values fall 33% in two years or less.
Oops..
That was supposed to say..
There are a lot of VALID reasons to oppose McCain because he IS a neo-con republican now. Or you can oppose him because is socially conservative.
Please go look at
http://my.barackobama.com/
It's Obama's "Snopes".
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Obama is a liberal
Obama will raise taxes on those making $225k & up (and I think $90k & Up)
That means a lot of powerful wealthy people are going to be doing a lot of despicable things to try and keep him from being elected. For them the Bush years have been great. The top 1% has gotten tax cuts so great that the top 5% shows tax cuts even tho taxes are up on the top 2-5%.
There are a lot of VALID reasons to oppose Obama because he IS a liberal. Or you can oppose him because he is socially liberal.
McCain is a conservative. I would have supported him but I saw a very clear moment in 2005 when he said, "I want to be president and I'm going to play ball with the wealthy and the corporations and the military industrial complex". He flipped on several key issues at that point and became Bush-3. I don't want to wait around 2-3 years until he reverts to being the McCain that I supported while the country goes deeper into debt and gets into a couple more pointless wars.
There are a lot of VALID reasons to oppose Obama because he IS a neo-con republican now. Or you can oppose him because is socially conservative.
Both candidates are going to be screwed as first term presidents by a vicious bear market akin to 1968-1980.
But do the decency to go to each man's site and read up on them. Clinton & Their ilk will create a lot of lies about McCain. Whisper campaigns. Play up how he divorced his first wife. Etc. Karl Rove and his ilk will create a lot of lies about Obama. Play up "Hussein". Plant whisper campaigns that he is a muslim. Etc.
If you really are a christian, shouldn't you be moral and ethical and really find out the truth about Obama rather than listening to gossip and lies? This is a man tha said he got down on his knees and accepted Jesus Christ when he was doing community work almost 30 years ago. He's been going to christian churches for all that time. And suddenly he's islamic? Bullshit.
I don't believe my self but I think it is more the dogma of christianity than the good works. Some of the dogma is silly but the basic meme is kind and moral.
Anyway... CHECK THE FACTS on BOTH men. Both are decent intelligent men. I'm going to vote Obama because he inspires me. He makes me believe in America as the shining beacon on the hill- that country where anyone can be president. The country that is tough as nails and a scrappy fighter but basically decent, honest, and fair.
I think I see how they felt about Kennedy. I sure hope Obama is elected and doesn't screw it all up with some stupid tragic flaw.
Over the last three years, I have found the web to be superior to my doctors' knowledge.
I have to gently ask them questions to guide them to thinking about the information or looking it up.
I get the definite impression that the constraints insurance companies put on them or the stream of 16 patients a day causes them to overlook certain symptoms unless you highlight them.
You have to be very careful about the information tho because
a) some people are goofy.
b) as medical companies are becoming aware of this they are putting propaganda out.
c) you need to be aware if you are reasonable or a hypocondriac. I'm reasonable so this works. A person who is a hypocondriac would probably just make themselves fearful of a lot of stuff.