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The LDP and Debian
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IMO, the LDP license is much better than the one Debian wants to use. There is a good reason why changes to the documentation should make it back to the original authors, so they can update their documents. Documentation isn't software. When someone makes a change to software somewhere, and has to update the documentation, the corrosponding changes should be made at the LDP. I shouldn't have to worry if the "Apache Howto" at the LDP website is no longer valid, because somebody at RedHat modified the wording of a "DocumentRoot" to "DocumentStart". According to the LDP license, if someone makes a change like this and documents it (in the RH docs), the change should be forwarded onto the LDP, so they can update/add to theirs, so everyone knows whats going on. This is not the case with the proposed Debian license. People can make changes willy-nlly, and the LDP docs get all out of sync. i think this is ridiculous, and I encourage all LDP authors to not change anything. If the Debian fanatics insist on it, let them write their own docs.
I dunno. I always found most Genesis games to be lacking when compared to SNES games. The SNES was still blasting the Genesis off the shelves around here, even after they tried their 32x and Sega-CD charades.
On this page, there is a chart that shows "Console History", with the relative successes by companies shown in bold. Not only is th SNES not boled, It's not even there. I find this very unsual, since growing up, everyone I knew had an SNES, period. You were considered "way out of it" if you were stuck with one of those crappy Genesis things.
HOw exactly was the iPod a "Milestone release"? Creative had the nomad out for what, a year and a half? ANd guess what, it worked with PC's AND Macs! Imagine! The horror! I still odn't understand wht people are making syck a big freakin deal about the goddamned iPod. Only thing it has that a billion othe rproducts in its arean don't have is firewire, and thats with good reason... MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FIREWIRE.
Another problem, as far as I understand it anyway, is that there is alot of overlap betwen the agencies. For example, the NSA overlaps alot with the CIA, both in their goals and how they achieve them. And the NSA ovrlaps in some areas (Satelite communications monitoring, etc) with the US Military. Not to mention how much the responsibilities of the various domestic agencies (FBI, US Marshals, local police) overlap.
If you worked at a support desk for even one week, you'd soon realize that no one ever saves their email, or any attachments within. They leave it in their inbox, until it reaches their quota limit of 500 megs or so. By this time, 95% of the stuff is so old it's useless, and they delete it all. The rest of it, instead of saving the humongious attachments, what do they do??? They create outlook folder son their HD, and move the emails there! Then they wonder what happened when their files get corrupted, maybe has something to do with the fact you have this one.pst file that is 1.5 GB.
Why? Well, essentially, it means for 10 bucks / month (1/3 of what I spend on morning coffee), I get reliable, high quality music downloads, and I don't have to put up with GNutella's crap. Sure, AFter I d/l the songs, I'll use my line in jack to convery them to MP3/OGG so I can do what I want with them, and won't be at risk of losing my music (Shh, don't tell the RIAA!). But I sure won't be sharing my songs over gnutella. Pirating IS wrong, the only reason I used to do it was it was convienient. Seriously, if you look at what you're getting fr measly 10 bucks (the equivalent of 9 CD's of music, plus, only th songs you want on each), it's quite a bargain.
I mean, c'mon. How come we can run something as tightly tied into windows as Windows Media Player in wine with no problems, but we can't run QuickTime? It's mainly because Apple decided to design QT base don a non-standard toolkit, and make it's user interface a living hell. Not only that, but in windows it takes 3x as long to load as Windows media Player. I don't hate it as much as Real (Hello, bloatware / spyware!), but Apple really messed up awhile back, IMO.
I'm sick of people bashing people who talk on their phone while driving. Anyone who gets distracted talking on the phone while driving is a complete moron. These people shouldn't be allowed to drive period, there is no reason to punish people like me who can carry on a conversation and not lose my focus. What, pray tell, is the difference between carrying on a conversation ovr a cell phone and carrying one on with the person beside you? I really don't see how it can be any more distracting. It's ludicrous.
... is simple. It's what people are used to, and what they expect. I know exactly where to find a "A", or an "R", on a QWERTY keyboard. I don't want to have to re-learn this just for my handheld.
Perhaps you have heard of Britians extensive CCTV network, which practiclly spans all of london? Check out this page. Of note:
Since then, cameras have proliferated around the country in an attempt to get tough on crime. Far from reducing crime, however, Britain's violent crime rate has risen. Cameras seem to have an initial deterrent effect but that often decreases over time. They tend only to prevent opportunistic, or spur of the moment, crimes and otherwise displaces crime to a different area. Indeed, the crime reduction statistics have been declared "wholly unreliable" by Professor Jason Ditton, director of the Scottish Center for Criminology, and without credibility by the British Journal of Criminology.
CCTV doesn't solve anything. How about spending this money somewhere where it's usefull, like improving the economy and helping allieviate the impoverished communities that spur this kind of crime.
Yeah, looks lie we can't wash anymore at all. Oh, and there is also a higher risk of dying from heart attacks and cancer than from terrorism, so McDonalds and cigarettes should also be outlawed. To protect the citizens of course.
I suppose you'd also gain comfort in having armed military patrolling the streets, and stopping and searching people who look "out of the ordinary". ph33r the terrorists! Gimme a break. He odds of you dying in a car accident or from slipping in the shower are like 500,000 times greater than dying as a result of terrorist activity. Ban cars! Take baths!
Who said anyting about copying?? DeCSS has NOTHING to do with copying, and everything to do with viewing, a DVD. You don't need ot decrypt a DVD to copy it, you only have to to view it. You've fallen for the MPAA marketdriod's doubletalk.
The point isn't really that a DVD is software.. its that DVD's are sold under a "EULA" simmilar to softare. The whole DMCA agruement is based around the idea that if you buy a DVD, you don't really "own" the DVD, but just bought a license to view it, and because of that, the publishers can give restrictions on that viewing. If it is ruled that this type of purchase is actually "buying" the item, rather than licensing, then it can also be applied to DVD's.
If you put your money down and walked away with a CD, you bought that copy, EULA or no EULA
So, if you bought that copy, and you own it, it is yours. And according to property law, I can do what I want with what I own, including disassemble it. Correct? So therefore, I can defeat any copy protectoin schemes on the software I buy. Correct? Does this not contradict the DMCA? Assuming a DVD is software, this makes DeCSS totally legit. Hopefully the SUpreme Court will uphold this ruling, and it can be used in DMCA cases!
Since WineX's only real work is done in the DirectX department, shouldn't it be easy for you to fold their changes into the main tree yourself, by updating all the DirectX related files under the/dlls folder of the source tree?
Why would you build them yourself (more time, money) when you can just BUY then from IBM! Just because it isn't supported doesn't mean it isn't possible. Debian would run fine on them.
Dunno about elsewhere, but around here (NB, Canada), WAAAYYY back, the phone company tried to charge per connection into the house, because people were splicing off lines add adding their own phones (how insane!!!). Back in the day, the court ruled that they were merely providing the service, and once it was in your house you could do what you wanted with it. AFAIK I heard this story from someone I know), when the local cable company took someone to court over a simmilar situation, this was used as a precedant, ands their case was dismissed. Now you can run as many cable connections as you want off your line, provided you splice them yourself, and the cable company can't do anything about it. I seriously suspect this exact same precident could be applied in this case. All they ar eproviding is the connection, once it's inside your house, you can do what you want with it.
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IMO, the LDP license is much better than the one Debian wants to use. There is a good reason why changes to the documentation should make it back to the original authors, so they can update their documents. Documentation isn't software. When someone makes a change to software somewhere, and has to update the documentation, the corrosponding changes should be made at the LDP. I shouldn't have to worry if the "Apache Howto" at the LDP website is no longer valid, because somebody at RedHat modified the wording of a "DocumentRoot" to "DocumentStart". According to the LDP license, if someone makes a change like this and documents it (in the RH docs), the change should be forwarded onto the LDP, so they can update/add to theirs, so everyone knows whats going on. This is not the case with the proposed Debian license. People can make changes willy-nlly, and the LDP docs get all out of sync. i think this is ridiculous, and I encourage all LDP authors to not change anything. If the Debian fanatics insist on it, let them write their own docs.
I really have nothing else to day. The moderators are smoking crack lately.
I dunno. I always found most Genesis games to be lacking when compared to SNES games. The SNES was still blasting the Genesis off the shelves around here, even after they tried their 32x and Sega-CD charades.
On this page, there is a chart that shows "Console History", with the relative successes by companies shown in bold. Not only is th SNES not boled, It's not even there. I find this very unsual, since growing up, everyone I knew had an SNES, period. You were considered "way out of it" if you were stuck with one of those crappy Genesis things.
HOw exactly was the iPod a "Milestone release"? Creative had the nomad out for what, a year and a half? ANd guess what, it worked with PC's AND Macs! Imagine! The horror! I still odn't understand wht people are making syck a big freakin deal about the goddamned iPod. Only thing it has that a billion othe rproducts in its arean don't have is firewire, and thats with good reason... MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE FIREWIRE.
I think he means that thre are plenty of other MPEG-4 players out there that are open source, and much better than Quicktime
Another problem, as far as I understand it anyway, is that there is alot of overlap betwen the agencies. For example, the NSA overlaps alot with the CIA, both in their goals and how they achieve them. And the NSA ovrlaps in some areas (Satelite communications monitoring, etc) with the US Military. Not to mention how much the responsibilities of the various domestic agencies (FBI, US Marshals, local police) overlap.
If you worked at a support desk for even one week, you'd soon realize that no one ever saves their email, or any attachments within. They leave it in their inbox, until it reaches their quota limit of 500 megs or so. By this time, 95% of the stuff is so old it's useless, and they delete it all. The rest of it, instead of saving the humongious attachments, what do they do??? They create outlook folder son their HD, and move the emails there! Then they wonder what happened when their files get corrupted, maybe has something to do with the fact you have this one .pst file that is 1.5 GB.
Why? Well, essentially, it means for 10 bucks / month (1/3 of what I spend on morning coffee), I get reliable, high quality music downloads, and I don't have to put up with GNutella's crap. Sure, AFter I d/l the songs, I'll use my line in jack to convery them to MP3/OGG so I can do what I want with them, and won't be at risk of losing my music (Shh, don't tell the RIAA!). But I sure won't be sharing my songs over gnutella. Pirating IS wrong, the only reason I used to do it was it was convienient. Seriously, if you look at what you're getting fr measly 10 bucks (the equivalent of 9 CD's of music, plus, only th songs you want on each), it's quite a bargain.
I mean, c'mon. How come we can run something as tightly tied into windows as Windows Media Player in wine with no problems, but we can't run QuickTime? It's mainly because Apple decided to design QT base don a non-standard toolkit, and make it's user interface a living hell. Not only that, but in windows it takes 3x as long to load as Windows media Player. I don't hate it as much as Real (Hello, bloatware / spyware!), but Apple really messed up awhile back, IMO.
I'm sick of people bashing people who talk on their phone while driving. Anyone who gets distracted talking on the phone while driving is a complete moron. These people shouldn't be allowed to drive period, there is no reason to punish people like me who can carry on a conversation and not lose my focus. What, pray tell, is the difference between carrying on a conversation ovr a cell phone and carrying one on with the person beside you? I really don't see how it can be any more distracting. It's ludicrous.
Or you can just install djbdns/BIND and run your own. It's trivial, even on Windows (Check out the DNS Server category at tucows)
... is simple. It's what people are used to, and what they expect. I know exactly where to find a "A", or an "R", on a QWERTY keyboard. I don't want to have to re-learn this just for my handheld.
http://www.aspendailynews.com/Search_Columns/view_ column.cfm?OrderNumber=546
Perhaps you have heard of Britians extensive CCTV network, which practiclly spans all of london? Check out this page. Of note:
Since then, cameras have proliferated around the country in an attempt to get tough on crime. Far from reducing crime, however, Britain's violent crime rate has risen. Cameras seem to have an initial deterrent effect but that often decreases over time. They tend only to prevent opportunistic, or spur of the moment, crimes and otherwise displaces crime to a different area. Indeed, the crime reduction statistics have been declared "wholly unreliable" by Professor Jason Ditton, director of the Scottish Center for Criminology, and without credibility by the British Journal of Criminology.
CCTV doesn't solve anything. How about spending this money somewhere where it's usefull, like improving the economy and helping allieviate the impoverished communities that spur this kind of crime.
Yeah, looks lie we can't wash anymore at all. Oh, and there is also a higher risk of dying from heart attacks and cancer than from terrorism, so McDonalds and cigarettes should also be outlawed. To protect the citizens of course.
I suppose you'd also gain comfort in having armed military patrolling the streets, and stopping and searching people who look "out of the ordinary". ph33r the terrorists! Gimme a break. He odds of you dying in a car accident or from slipping in the shower are like 500,000 times greater than dying as a result of terrorist activity. Ban cars! Take baths!
Someone mod this guy into oblivion. The link logs you out of /., there is no such story.
Hence the quotes... There is no agreement, but all you ar purchasing is a license to view the media, not the media itself.
Who said anyting about copying?? DeCSS has NOTHING to do with copying, and everything to do with viewing, a DVD. You don't need ot decrypt a DVD to copy it, you only have to to view it. You've fallen for the MPAA marketdriod's doubletalk.
The point isn't really that a DVD is software.. its that DVD's are sold under a "EULA" simmilar to softare. The whole DMCA agruement is based around the idea that if you buy a DVD, you don't really "own" the DVD, but just bought a license to view it, and because of that, the publishers can give restrictions on that viewing. If it is ruled that this type of purchase is actually "buying" the item, rather than licensing, then it can also be applied to DVD's.
According to the judge:
If you put your money down and walked away with a CD, you bought that copy, EULA or no EULA
So, if you bought that copy, and you own it, it is yours. And according to property law, I can do what I want with what I own, including disassemble it. Correct? So therefore, I can defeat any copy protectoin schemes on the software I buy. Correct? Does this not contradict the DMCA? Assuming a DVD is software, this makes DeCSS totally legit. Hopefully the SUpreme Court will uphold this ruling, and it can be used in DMCA cases!
Since WineX's only real work is done in the DirectX department, shouldn't it be easy for you to fold their changes into the main tree yourself, by updating all the DirectX related files under the /dlls folder of the source tree?
Why would you build them yourself (more time, money) when you can just BUY then from IBM! Just because it isn't supported doesn't mean it isn't possible. Debian would run fine on them.
Dunno about elsewhere, but around here (NB, Canada), WAAAYYY back, the phone company tried to charge per connection into the house, because people were splicing off lines add adding their own phones (how insane!!!). Back in the day, the court ruled that they were merely providing the service, and once it was in your house you could do what you wanted with it. AFAIK I heard this story from someone I know), when the local cable company took someone to court over a simmilar situation, this was used as a precedant, ands their case was dismissed. Now you can run as many cable connections as you want off your line, provided you splice them yourself, and the cable company can't do anything about it. I seriously suspect this exact same precident could be applied in this case. All they ar eproviding is the connection, once it's inside your house, you can do what you want with it.