I agree, 4 digit PIN's are useless. I know on one of my bank accounts my PIN is 12 digits (the maximum possible), but at my other 2 accounts 4 is the max! What is with these banks? Just because some people have trouble remembering more then a 4 digit PIN doesnt mean I do. Why, in this world of ever-increasing HD space is the maximum normally 4 digits? This astounds me.
Ok then. Say I live in Israel, and decide not to abide by the UCITA. The software company decides to take legal action, summoning me to X court in Virginia. What the hell do I care? *I* just don't go, and they can't do anything. The US has no power to arrest me outside of the US, let alone summon me to court there.
I still can't understand why these companies would be upset at getting MORE viewers. Surely server logs could be monitored, and doing such you could find out accurate numbers of what percentage of the population was watching your program, as opposed to those outdated neilsen ratings.
Also, whats the big deal if people rebroadcast your material? As long as it's live and not recorded, I don't understand what they're all up in arms about... all their gettig is more viewers = more advertising.
As a side note, i plan to start streaming TV as son as i get a faster Internet connection so NBC WATCH OUT! IM STEALING VIEWERS!:o),/p>
I agree with this study in it's premise... that the internet is physically isolating people, causing them to exchange their ideas in a virtual forum as opposed to a physical one (think a slashdot thread as opposed to a town meeting). What I don't agree with is that this is, or will ever be, intellectually,emotionally, or socially damaging to us as a species. The basic premise behind the Internet is the exchange of ideas and information. Throughout history, mankind has striven to reach the goal of ultimate communication with each other. the Internet is the culmination of those efforts as it exists today (yesterday it was the telephone, before that the newspaper, etc).
Of course, old-world pundits will be frightened of this sociological change, as they always are whenever a paradigm shift in communications comes along. I however, believe that this is a precursor of things to come. Perhaps eventually, ultimate communication will be reached... through an evolution of human consciousness beyond our physical bodies. Weathe ror not this will be into a non-corporeal form of some sort, or will exist as brains linked into a global "cyberspace", who knows. but eventually, it will happen. And no amount of scared old-worled idealists will be able to stop it.
If you had read my comment at all, you would realize that I never said that this wasn't desirable for the companies, I said that it was not feasibly possible for them to do.
It seems to me that this spec will die for several reasons. Unless it encrypts all video data exported from the PC, weather it be Monitor, RCA Out, S-Video, etc, it is useles for copy protection. But if they DO begin this encrytion, it will HAVE to be backwards compatable with ALL current Monitors, RCA jacks, etc, or else the vendors won't support it. (Imagine Phillips suddely saying "Anyone who buys our new PH-9000 must also buy an Intel-encryption compatable video card." Yeah, that would go over well...
If the kind of people who perpetuate this behavior would expend their energies on more productive causes that help the movement (Writing senators, joining the EFF, organizing campaigns) as opposed to flaming people while sitting on ther collective asses, perhaps we would see some REAL change in the way this industry (is this an industry, or a society in itself?) is heading.
Good points, perhaps you are right. i just found it exteremely co-incidental when I read the list of the companies attacked that day, at how familiar some of the names were from recent stories on slashdot.... Amazon, Buy.com, Cnn.. etc. Just hit me as soon as ir ead them. but you could be right, who knows?
Ok then... Why not Barns and Noble instead of Amazon? (one Click Shopping???) Why not shopper.com instead of Buy.com? (Corperation not making any money whatsoever and selling products at a loss, looking for a big IPO) Why not ABCNews.com, or News.com, but CNN.com? (Time/Warner) Theres quite a common thread here...
Does anyone but me see the goal behind these attacks? Think of the names... CNN (owned by Time/Warner) Etoys (obvious) Yahoo (corperatism ruined a once great story) etc.. all the targets are huge corperations that believed they were more powerful than the "hackers" and believe themselves above morality. Perhaps this will cath their attention... Maybe things like the Fox flash page, frivolous lawsuits, etc. will be diminished. Or not;) I'm not saying this kind of behavior should be encouraged, or if it is even accceptable... it IS very poor advocacy. I'm just saying, i think i know where these guys are coming from... I'm practically there myself. In fact, I think alot of us are.
So what constitutes fair use of a DVD in your eyes -- besides simply buying a DVD and using one of the MPAA's authorized players?
"Any use by which you buy it at a price. It's like saying is there any other way you can get into a movie theater without buying a ticket. The answer is, you can sneak in, I suppose. But is that right? And if somebody says, 'You're interfering with my freedom of speech and freedom of movement. I just want to go into your theater but I don't want to pay any money for it' -- the absurdity of that becomes quite apparent. I'm baffled by some of the people that have written me [laughter] rather angry e-mails that I'm interfering with freedom of speech, and I'm a Luddite, and I'm trying to hold back the tide like an awkward king. I don't understand that. Because it literally makes no logic, no sense."
Isn't buying a DVD at a store and wanting to play it under the Linux OS "buy[ing] it at a price"? This guy is clueless... He totally skipped the implied question and turned the whole thing over to piracy again.
You hardly ever seem to contribute to the threads that arise in response to your writings -- probably you're too busy
How often have you veer seen Rob or Jeff comment in the threads? Although it would be nice, I am sure they are busy enough choosing form the 100's of articles submitted / hour.
I agree partially. I also believe that Katz is an excellent journalist, and am often driven to wonder as to excatly how well-read most of his quite vocal opponents on/. are, aside from man pages and technical manuals. His article are often very deep and thought provoking.
I believe that the root of this problem lies with the fact that most of the geeks on/. are quite intelligent, but spent most of their free time with computers in years past, as opposed to people such as me who read quite a bit and watched alot of documentaries / newscasts on television. The main reason I have stopped doing so recently is because I am too fed up with the singular non-technical point of view I get in the mainstream media./. , at least, ackgnowledges its stereotypes and biases openly, as opposed to some larger media organisations who attempt to hide behind a veil of impartiality which just isn't there.
I personally feel that Katz is a much needed person here at/. If you REALLY have that much of a problem with him, the awnser is simpe.... don't read the articles.
The didn't order it to shut down, just "not to broadcast into the US:
'A U.S. judge granted the plaintiffs' request for a temporary restraining order, effective immediately, which temporarily blocks iCraveTV from transmitting the copyrighted programming into the United States "via the iCraveTV.com site or any other Internet sites or any online facility of any kind." '
I'd like to know exactly how they expect to enforce this.... one simple bounce off a canadian server, and you're in;)
Am I wrong or is this simply a pseudo-repeat of the article 2 or 3 ones down which is from the guy's mouth.... or is this the actual author this time? Why is this article not psoed on the english CNN?
I also tried the beat, and was thourgly impressed. Lothar was amazing, as was GNOME, which, as always, I used for my Wm (without problem i might add). I think you must have gotten a pre-alpha copy or something.
Good points. Personally, I wish the Government would keep its sticky fingers out of Big Buiness...at least when it gets this far along. The government should have done something back in the Win3.1 days, when it was obvious something was going on. If they had ruled earler on the Caldera/MSFt/Dr.DOS/Win95 thing, maybe Microsoft would'nt be as greedy and bullheaded.
Anything the government does to regulate buisness in this fashion never works. Rather than the forced breakup of monopolies, how about passing some good legeslation that prevents this consolodation of power?
In all likelyhood, this decision will only cause more trouble. Since Bill isnt just the CEO, but also the primary shareholder ( i think... )and owns more than 50% of the current comany he will have to own more than 50% of the other 3 companies as well. So this will just mean he has 3 companies to play around with. Although hopefully it will be harder to keep his legions co-ordinated if they are seperate entities...
In the end, it will never be the governemnt or nay law that defeats Microsoft, it will be linux. Now, back to worrying about AOL Time-Warner....
Slashdot Mirror
I agree, 4 digit PIN's are useless. I know on one of my bank accounts my PIN is 12 digits (the maximum possible), but at my other 2 accounts 4 is the max! What is with these banks? Just because some people have trouble remembering more then a 4 digit PIN doesnt mean I do. Why, in this world of ever-increasing HD space is the maximum normally 4 digits? This astounds me.
Ok then. Say I live in Israel, and decide not to abide by the UCITA. The software company decides to take legal action, summoning me to X court in Virginia. What the hell do I care? *I* just don't go, and they can't do anything. The US has no power to arrest me outside of the US, let alone summon me to court there.
I still can't understand why these companies would be upset at getting MORE viewers. Surely server logs could be monitored, and doing such you could find out accurate numbers of what percentage of the population was watching your program, as opposed to those outdated neilsen ratings.
Also, whats the big deal if people rebroadcast your material? As long as it's live and not recorded, I don't understand what they're all up in arms about... all their gettig is more viewers = more advertising.
As a side note, i plan to start streaming TV as son as i get a faster Internet connection so NBC WATCH OUT! IM STEALING VIEWERS! :o),/p>
The linked site appears to be slashdotted. I believe this is a valid mirrorof the report:
ht tp://www.cyber-rights.org/interception/stoa/inter
I agree with this study in it's premise... that the internet is physically isolating people, causing them to exchange their ideas in a virtual forum as opposed to a physical one (think a slashdot thread as opposed to a town meeting). What I don't agree with is that this is, or will ever be, intellectually ,emotionally, or socially damaging to us as a species. The basic premise behind the Internet is the exchange of ideas and information. Throughout history, mankind has striven to reach the goal of ultimate communication with each other. the Internet is the culmination of those efforts as it exists today (yesterday it was the telephone, before that the newspaper, etc).
Of course, old-world pundits will be frightened of this sociological change, as they always are whenever a paradigm shift in communications comes along. I however, believe that this is a precursor of things to come. Perhaps eventually, ultimate communication will be reached... through an evolution of human consciousness beyond our physical bodies. Weathe ror not this will be into a non-corporeal form of some sort, or will exist as brains linked into a global "cyberspace", who knows. but eventually, it will happen. And no amount of scared old-worled idealists will be able to stop it.
If you had read my comment at all, you would realize that I never said that this wasn't desirable for the companies, I said that it was not feasibly possible for them to do.
It seems to me that this spec will die for several reasons. Unless it encrypts all video data exported from the PC, weather it be Monitor, RCA Out, S-Video, etc, it is useles for copy protection. But if they DO begin this encrytion, it will HAVE to be backwards compatable with ALL current Monitors, RCA jacks, etc, or else the vendors won't support it. (Imagine Phillips suddely saying "Anyone who buys our new PH-9000 must also buy an Intel-encryption compatable video card." Yeah, that would go over well...
Don't sweat it, this whole spec won't work
What about the Logo that slashdot so prominently ddisplays quite frequently? Does Andover.net have permission from apple to do this?
If the kind of people who perpetuate this behavior would expend their energies on more productive causes that help the movement (Writing senators, joining the EFF, organizing campaigns) as opposed to flaming people while sitting on ther collective asses, perhaps we would see some REAL change in the way this industry (is this an industry, or a society in itself?) is heading.
Good points, perhaps you are right. i just found it exteremely co-incidental when I read the list of the companies attacked that day, at how familiar some of the names were from recent stories on slashdot.... Amazon, Buy.com, Cnn.. etc. Just hit me as soon as ir ead them. but you could be right, who knows?
Ok then... Why not Barns and Noble instead of Amazon? (one Click Shopping???) Why not shopper.com instead of Buy.com? (Corperation not making any money whatsoever and selling products at a loss, looking for a big IPO) Why not ABCNews.com, or News.com, but CNN.com? (Time/Warner) Theres quite a common thread here...
Does anyone but me see the goal behind these attacks? Think of the names... CNN (owned by Time/Warner) Etoys (obvious) Yahoo (corperatism ruined a once great story) etc.. all the targets are huge corperations that believed they were more powerful than the "hackers" and believe themselves above morality. Perhaps this will cath their attention... Maybe things like the Fox flash page, frivolous lawsuits, etc. will be diminished. Or not ;) I'm not saying this kind of behavior should be encouraged, or if it is even accceptable... it IS very poor advocacy. I'm just saying, i think i know where these guys are coming from... I'm practically there myself. In fact, I think alot of us are.
"Any use by which you buy it at a price. It's like saying is there any other way you can get into a movie theater without buying a ticket. The answer is, you can sneak in, I suppose. But is that right? And if somebody says, 'You're interfering with my freedom of speech and freedom of movement. I just want to go into your theater but I don't want to pay any money for it' -- the absurdity of that becomes quite apparent. I'm baffled by some of the people that have written me [laughter] rather angry e-mails that I'm interfering with freedom of speech, and I'm a Luddite, and I'm trying to hold back the tide like an awkward king. I don't understand that. Because it literally makes no logic, no sense."
Isn't buying a DVD at a store and wanting to play it under the Linux OS "buy[ing] it at a price"? This guy is clueless... He totally skipped the implied question and turned the whole thing over to piracy again.
You hardly ever seem to contribute to the threads that arise in response to your writings -- probably you're too busy
How often have you veer seen Rob or Jeff comment in the threads? Although it would be nice, I am sure they are busy enough choosing form the 100's of articles submitted / hour.
I agree partially. I also believe that Katz is an excellent journalist, and am often driven to wonder as to excatly how well-read most of his quite vocal opponents on /. are, aside from man pages and technical manuals. His article are often very deep and thought provoking.
I believe that the root of this problem lies with the fact that most of the geeks on /. are quite intelligent, but spent most of their free time with computers in years past, as opposed to people such as me who read quite a bit and watched alot of documentaries / newscasts on television. The main reason I have stopped doing so recently is because I am too fed up with the singular non-technical point of view I get in the mainstream media. /. , at least, ackgnowledges its stereotypes and biases openly, as opposed to some larger media organisations who attempt to hide behind a veil of impartiality which just isn't there.
I personally feel that Katz is a much needed person here at /. If you REALLY have that much of a problem with him, the awnser is simpe.... don't read the articles.
Mergers don't always do good things to stock prices. have you been watching the AOL stock plunge after the Time-Warner merger?
Heres some random advice:
4 Steps to a successfull software company:
1)Make a company with the name "Linux" in it... maybe "One" as well, to make sure they know your software is "the best"
2)Make sure you steal someone elses already remutable product, go through it, replace all instances of its name with your own, and sell it as yours.
3)Make sure that everyone involve din the Linux community paints you as the fools you are.
4) IPO!
Thats it... the 4 easy steps to a successfull software company
The didn't order it to shut down, just "not to broadcast into the US:
;)
'A U.S. judge granted the plaintiffs' request for a temporary restraining order, effective immediately, which temporarily blocks iCraveTV from transmitting the copyrighted programming into the United States "via the iCraveTV.com site or any other Internet sites or any online facility of any kind." '
I'd like to know exactly how they expect to enforce this.... one simple bounce off a canadian server, and you're in
It means US Patents aren't enforceable outside the USA. The end of the US east and west coast != the end of the earth you know.
Am I wrong or is this simply a pseudo-repeat of the article 2 or 3 ones down which is from the guy's mouth.... or is this the actual author this time? Why is this article not psoed on the english CNN?
Sounds kinda nifty, but I'm not sur ei'm picturing it right. got any pics up anwhere?
I also tried the beat, and was thourgly impressed. Lothar was amazing, as was GNOME, which, as always, I used for my Wm (without problem i might add). I think you must have gotten a pre-alpha copy or something.
Good points. Personally, I wish the Government would keep its sticky fingers out of Big Buiness...at least when it gets this far along. The government should have done something back in the Win3.1 days, when it was obvious something was going on. If they had ruled earler on the Caldera/MSFt/Dr.DOS/Win95 thing, maybe Microsoft would'nt be as greedy and bullheaded.
Anything the government does to regulate buisness in this fashion never works. Rather than the forced breakup of monopolies, how about passing some good legeslation that prevents this consolodation of power?
In all likelyhood, this decision will only cause more trouble. Since Bill isnt just the CEO, but also the primary shareholder ( i think... )and owns more than 50% of the current comany he will have to own more than 50% of the other 3 companies as well. So this will just mean he has 3 companies to play around with. Although hopefully it will be harder to keep his legions co-ordinated if they are seperate entities...
In the end, it will never be the governemnt or nay law that defeats Microsoft, it will be linux.
Now, back to worrying about AOL Time-Warner....
Incorperated in NB canada? Thats where I'm from... hrmm wonder if i can find their office...