Speak for yourself. This is simply a preference. A lot of people might find it very convenient to use PHP; although hopefully they realise how very limited and ugly the language is. I don't care that it's ugly when I blaze out quick code; and I have enough discipline in my coding habits that I don't care about many of its weaknesses.
The dc language is often called reverse Polish, I forget why. I first read about it in the K&R C book.
Be fair to the designers, it was the first in the world (and as you say it's been creaking along since then). An analogy might be UNIX -- fair enough, not the oldest, but one of the oldest OSes, carelessly designed, somehow still working, and remarkably still the best OS by far.
The GP's analogy sucked. Guns are used to kill living things or practice to get good at killing living things. Killing things is the raison d'etre of guns. Not so with bittorrent.
Disclaimer: I am a handgun owner, and I support banning handguns.
It typically states that it must be *capable* of receiving all interference, and not interfere back. It's a quality and nondisruption thing. It's OK to put a shield around them.
I didn't say it would take me a great mental effort. Merely that it would. Few enough tasks require our mental effort these days that it's worth noting if one does. I don't shy from mental effort in my field either (mathematics).
My training in ML has little to do with it. It is fine; I like and admire the elegance of the concepts, it is easy to use them. It simply takes a very little discipline and thought to write ML code. It takes no thought at all to write PHP code, which is why it is faster to use it (not to mention weak typing). You don't have to think for even a moment about data structures in PHP.
Yes, the person you would have been replying to was me, the OP. I don't care that you doubt it, I just care that you think it impossible or impractical, which might mislead others who know nothing about the issue.
Did you even read what you quoted? It's perfectly harmless. They mirror an untampered binary of OOo for free, and offer a high-speed download service that you can pay for. Wow, how shady.
I have used ML. ML is nice when you want to create beautiful, elegant, compact, thoughtful code. Code that you are proud of writing, code that takes a mental effort to understand again later, and code that is almost always right the first time once it passes the damn compiler.
As such, it also takes about twenty times longer to write than the PHP equivalent.
There's a reason I wrote quick and dirty. Jesus_666 in this thread seems to be of the same mind as I am, if you want more perspective. PHP is, due to its peculiar syntax and particular functions, better suited to (often inelegant) rapid prototyping than other languages I know.
Not to be a fanboy, but upgrading is quite painless with Debian. It's one of the project's goals.
When I switched to Linux, I tried out various distros for about a year to see which one I liked. When I switched to Debian, I didn't look back -- I now use it for all my hardware.
There is no language in which it is faster to prototype small algorithmically intricate scripts (for straightfoward stuff, I use the shell). This used to be a great boon (and amusement) in college, where the homework assignment that people slaved on for a day or two in Java or C++ or C would take me less than 2 hours to do (typically right before the deadline too).
Merely due to its built-in hashtable and the wide variety of functions to manipulate it, it is quick, natural and painless to churn out algorithms in PHP.
Oh yes, for other things, it sucks. For big projects, I like C or python.
I haven't tried Smithwicks, but I like Porter, though I've not had it much.
For people who don't know about beer reading this thread, note that Bass and Guinness are about as different as you could wish; don't lump them together. Bass is a pale ale, Guinness is a dark stout.
I mainly drink whisky anyhow (by which I mean Scotch whisky).
Just go to any grocery store or bar and pick up some Bass, it's a widely available cheap import. I used to hate beer as a kid (now I've grown used to most types), but even kids that have drunk Bass I know liked it. Not all cheap beers suck.
Congrats on your new Personalausweis, or compulsory German identity card. I've lived in Germany and in the UK, so I must point out your BS. The UK is going down a wide and well-paved road, but it's not in the league of most of the countries on the Continent yet.
Mind you, neither do the police in Britain carry guns. Ordinary Britons and the organisations responsible directly to HM (including the Police) -- and even the civil service to an extent -- are decent folk. It's in the recent governments that the cancer lies.
You're missing the point. In their stance on spying on citizens, both the US and the UK have parties with the same stance on it -- they both support it (some more quietly than others, but none the less so). Those who don't support it are tied up in a fringe -- the Nader voters, the libertarians, the freedom-loving Republicans, the freedom-loving Democrats, the Socialists and Social Democrats, the people who don't vote, etc. No US president that I know of has ever been elected by a majority of the actual populace (I could be wrong, mind). The opposition to this is definitely fragmented.
And they're not even fragmented because of spying. That's just a precaution. In the US, they're fragmented because a whole lot are downtrodden and poor, live in fear -- fear of disease, fear of authority, fear of employer -- because those that aren't have their mind fucked through brainwashing and indoctrination, mindless loyalty to the State or Church, both wholly cynical and rapacious collections of entities. (And I say this as a Christian, but I belong to no church.)
The UK is a bit different. Labour used to be genuinely freedom-loving in the 80s, but the economy was mishandled. The Tories fixed that, and now Labour is as right-wing as they are. Old Labour was caught a bit off-guard that way -- the name stayed the same, the politics moved more to the right than the Tories of the 80s. But there's still a healthy spirit there, as the Iraq War protests show, and the healthy share of the vote the Lib Dems get. And of course it's a parliamentary system so it's harder to sideline the "third view" as it has been in the US.
I don't like "geeks" either, or rather geek culture. What that generation valued was intellectual achievement. Today's is anti-intellectual. Fuck geekness, long live intellect.
That's my position exactly. I support the Socialist Party, but if I could vote (I'm not American), I would vote Democrat, because third-party votes are wasted in today's America.
In my own country, I vote for parties with the position of Social Democrat or Labour, depending on the exact crop.
As he's tried to explain to you, it's not that they don't, it's a question of how often, of percentages. Societal traits of behaviour manifest themselves as percentages. In America, you're more likely to have credit card debt; in Ireland you're more likely to be an alcoholic; in Germany you're more likely to be punctual; in Romania you're more likely to bribe; whatever.
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My point is, it is not desirable to code in PHP.
Speak for yourself. This is simply a preference. A lot of people might find it very convenient to use PHP; although hopefully they realise how very limited and ugly the language is. I don't care that it's ugly when I blaze out quick code; and I have enough discipline in my coding habits that I don't care about many of its weaknesses.
The dc language is often called reverse Polish, I forget why. I first read about it in the K&R C book.
Oxford street is the busiest shopping street in the world; I think you may have picked an edge case there.
Be fair to the designers, it was the first in the world (and as you say it's been creaking along since then). An analogy might be UNIX -- fair enough, not the oldest, but one of the oldest OSes, carelessly designed, somehow still working, and remarkably still the best OS by far.
The GP's analogy sucked. Guns are used to kill living things or practice to get good at killing living things. Killing things is the raison d'etre of guns. Not so with bittorrent.
Disclaimer: I am a handgun owner, and I support banning handguns.
Aren't those two products the same? ^^
It typically states that it must be *capable* of receiving all interference, and not interfere back. It's a quality and nondisruption thing. It's OK to put a shield around them.
Funny, with me it's always a da-da-da-daaaaa. Seriously. I mean, I do get two da's before the daaaaa somtimes, but almost always three.
I didn't say it would take me a great mental effort. Merely that it would. Few enough tasks require our mental effort these days that it's worth noting if one does. I don't shy from mental effort in my field either (mathematics).
My training in ML has little to do with it. It is fine; I like and admire the elegance of the concepts, it is easy to use them. It simply takes a very little discipline and thought to write ML code. It takes no thought at all to write PHP code, which is why it is faster to use it (not to mention weak typing). You don't have to think for even a moment about data structures in PHP.
Yes, the person you would have been replying to was me, the OP. I don't care that you doubt it, I just care that you think it impossible or impractical, which might mislead others who know nothing about the issue.
Did you even read what you quoted? It's perfectly harmless. They mirror an untampered binary of OOo for free, and offer a high-speed download service that you can pay for. Wow, how shady.
I have used ML. ML is nice when you want to create beautiful, elegant, compact, thoughtful code. Code that you are proud of writing, code that takes a mental effort to understand again later, and code that is almost always right the first time once it passes the damn compiler.
As such, it also takes about twenty times longer to write than the PHP equivalent.
There's a reason I wrote quick and dirty. Jesus_666 in this thread seems to be of the same mind as I am, if you want more perspective. PHP is, due to its peculiar syntax and particular functions, better suited to (often inelegant) rapid prototyping than other languages I know.
Not to be a fanboy, but upgrading is quite painless with Debian. It's one of the project's goals.
When I switched to Linux, I tried out various distros for about a year to see which one I liked. When I switched to Debian, I didn't look back -- I now use it for all my hardware.
There is no language in which it is faster to prototype small algorithmically intricate scripts (for straightfoward stuff, I use the shell). This used to be a great boon (and amusement) in college, where the homework assignment that people slaved on for a day or two in Java or C++ or C would take me less than 2 hours to do (typically right before the deadline too).
Merely due to its built-in hashtable and the wide variety of functions to manipulate it, it is quick, natural and painless to churn out algorithms in PHP.
Oh yes, for other things, it sucks. For big projects, I like C or python.
I haven't tried Smithwicks, but I like Porter, though I've not had it much.
For people who don't know about beer reading this thread, note that Bass and Guinness are about as different as you could wish; don't lump them together. Bass is a pale ale, Guinness is a dark stout.
I mainly drink whisky anyhow (by which I mean Scotch whisky).
As you say, vive le difference.
Just go to any grocery store or bar and pick up some Bass, it's a widely available cheap import. I used to hate beer as a kid (now I've grown used to most types), but even kids that have drunk Bass I know liked it. Not all cheap beers suck.
Congrats on your new Personalausweis, or compulsory German identity card. I've lived in Germany and in the UK, so I must point out your BS. The UK is going down a wide and well-paved road, but it's not in the league of most of the countries on the Continent yet.
Mind you, neither do the police in Britain carry guns. Ordinary Britons and the organisations responsible directly to HM (including the Police) -- and even the civil service to an extent -- are decent folk. It's in the recent governments that the cancer lies.
You're missing the point. In their stance on spying on citizens, both the US and the UK have parties with the same stance on it -- they both support it (some more quietly than others, but none the less so). Those who don't support it are tied up in a fringe -- the Nader voters, the libertarians, the freedom-loving Republicans, the freedom-loving Democrats, the Socialists and Social Democrats, the people who don't vote, etc. No US president that I know of has ever been elected by a majority of the actual populace (I could be wrong, mind). The opposition to this is definitely fragmented.
And they're not even fragmented because of spying. That's just a precaution. In the US, they're fragmented because a whole lot are downtrodden and poor, live in fear -- fear of disease, fear of authority, fear of employer -- because those that aren't have their mind fucked through brainwashing and indoctrination, mindless loyalty to the State or Church, both wholly cynical and rapacious collections of entities. (And I say this as a Christian, but I belong to no church.)
The UK is a bit different. Labour used to be genuinely freedom-loving in the 80s, but the economy was mishandled. The Tories fixed that, and now Labour is as right-wing as they are. Old Labour was caught a bit off-guard that way -- the name stayed the same, the politics moved more to the right than the Tories of the 80s. But there's still a healthy spirit there, as the Iraq War protests show, and the healthy share of the vote the Lib Dems get. And of course it's a parliamentary system so it's harder to sideline the "third view" as it has been in the US.
I don't like "geeks" either, or rather geek culture. What that generation valued was intellectual achievement. Today's is anti-intellectual. Fuck geekness, long live intellect.
No. In fact, modern OS kernels often opt to swap out little-used pages and bring more files into the cache. What you said was superseded in the 1990s.
Why else a light-coloured tie on a dark shirt?
Ditto for Debian lenny (current testing). Doesn't appear to be compiled in on the FC9 machine I have an account on, but that may be a custom kernel.
That's my position exactly. I support the Socialist Party, but if I could vote (I'm not American), I would vote Democrat, because third-party votes are wasted in today's America.
In my own country, I vote for parties with the position of Social Democrat or Labour, depending on the exact crop.
Libertarians walk into your face.
As he's tried to explain to you, it's not that they don't, it's a question of how often, of percentages. Societal traits of behaviour manifest themselves as percentages. In America, you're more likely to have credit card debt; in Ireland you're more likely to be an alcoholic; in Germany you're more likely to be punctual; in Romania you're more likely to bribe; whatever.
Consumerism.