I looked at the screenshot and saw the OS X like buttons... my first thought was "Wow! They ported Crossover to OS X so now I can run iTunes on my mac!!"
Then I realized what I was thinking, and felt dumb.
Y2K was a non-event because we fixed it. Line by line, programmers went through all the old systems and fixed the bug. Had none of that work happened, it would have cause major problems. But the work took place, and the significant majority of the problems were solved before they hit... thus leading many people to talk about how it was all hype and there never was a problem in the first palce.
The big difference here is that we can't fix it. Eventually the fields will flip. And lord knows what is going to happen. Of course, this will take a long time, and we can't stop it... so panic is pointless. Better just to have a good think about it, and figure out how to minimize the impact. And then, after thousands of people do ridiculous amounts of work to soften or hopefully eliminate the practical impact, we can listen to people like you talking about how it wasn't really that big a deal at all and we got worked up over nothing.
You have a choice. You can accept a problem and solve it, or you can simply deny the problem is there. The first way works sometimes. The second way never works at all.
Are you suggesting that abolishing slavery and the mass murder of native americans has somehow reduced the value of our liberties?
All Ben said is that those who would trade their liberties for security simply don't value their liberties enough to be deserving of them, and as such don't really deserve security either.
Seems like that fits even now. Unless you simply don't think that keeping your liberties is really that big a deal.
There is a finanical motivation behind that though - they need to make windows development overall better, so people will stick with it, develop more apps for windows, and perpetuate the monopoly. They aren't competing with other windows products... they are competing with other systems like XCode, etc.
So basically, the improvements are so they can continue to rake in the dough from their systems.
That lawsuit was settled in September of 2003. When they were down to a skeleton company w/ 1 employee - their lawyer. They settled because they had no money to continue fighting, and needed to pay creditors.
So yes, after microsoft put them out of business by eliminating the market through monopolistic business practices, Be sued them for it and settled for 23 million when they couldn't go on.
This doesn't eliminate the original point.. it only shows how fully destroyed they were by Microsoft.
I hate when government officials talk about new taxes "generating" money. When he says he hopes the new tax "generates $65 million" he means "steals $65 million from people who otherwise could have used it on something"
New taxes are shit. The government gets a TON of money already. Learn to balance your budget instead of just creating new taxes to take more from your citizens.
Hehe. I probably could build the app, but I don't know anything about intrusion detection at all, and don't have the time to learn. (And thus I have no desire to spend the time building the app)
Those ideas were just from looking at what snort is on their page, and taking a guess at what a snort sig does based on the post and the app page.
My first thought was that this entire story was just a clever troll of some type. I mean, my ideas took about 2 minutes from a complete dead start with no real interest in the problem. And they still show more effort and initative than these clowns did. Show some pride people - actually aim for more than the bottom. Jeez.
In writing this, I realize that I am turning into my grandpa about 50 years too early. Ugh.
Maybe it's just me, but isn't the link pointing at a raw phpbb2 install with very very little customizaiton?
Is this just a forum for posting stuff, with the concept being "post snort sigs here asap"?
Why would anyone anywhere use this? you lose all the potential that the concept has by slamming it into a generic system. Why not create a db system that has various intrusion characteristics as bools, and you can attach a sig to a textual report with flagged characteristics, and then let admins and such search the db by characteristic or description text, or affected apps/protocols, etc. Other admins could hit a "have seen in wild" button to let the site rank various intrusion techniques by how common they are.. There is a lot of potential, and it is all squandered. Back to the drawing board.
I always thought Debian was essentially the linux implementation of the FSF/GNU ideals. Most other distros make compromises for usability, but debian never compromises on freedom. This is just the latest example of that. And more power too them for it.
The amazing thing here is this: In reaffiming their commitment to freedom, they are finding that they have to exclude some GNU documentation because it is considered non-free. In other words, Debian now seems to value free software more than the Free Software Foundation.
Thats disappointing, but at least Debian is sticking to their ideals without compromise. Too bad the FSF can't say the same.
I disagree. It definately has a chatroom feel to it. But it also has extensive quests and plotting involved, just like any other final fantasy game. You do quests to find items, which is definately not chat.. but does induce party based chatting.
The thing is.. there are also missions. Missions progress you through the plot, and let you follow the various stories in the world (which apparently will change over the story of the plot and/or time)
It seems to me that if developers release a game that I enjoy much much more than the so called "real games" I used to get, sending them a message that it's good would be the right thing to do.
Besides.. what makes a game real? Having to play it alone vs. characters that are entirely computer controlled? Thanks, but I think its the human interaction that makes mmorpgs so much more fun in the first place.
I can see that. Mine is the same way... they've been playing since November (most of em) - but we are all working to get to the same lvl. They are going for advanced jobs. I am going to stick with the jobs I have so I can drop back at the same time and keep pace.
The only real issue I can see is that my subjob will be weaker than theirs is eventually. But that will be fixable with a few weekends of just going on my own lvling my subjob once I'm higher level.. probably wont fall behind much on main lvl cause of the xp reqs at high lvls, so it should work out.
But yeah..
Then again, I've made some in game friends at my lvl who started around the same time at me. Absolute worst case scenario would be to start a different linkshell.:)
I can see that. I am still pseudo n00b. Lvl 16 RDM, still hanging in the dunes.
That said, I have a linkshell with some friends, and we are all closing in on our final combo of jobs (some already have subjobs, but are going for advanced jobs) - I am aiming for a RDM/WHM combo, so when they get their advanced, we will all switch jobs and lvl the subs together. That way we will get back up faster, and get past that annoying "starting over" design. (and the n00bs)
I agree that is a weird setup in it's design though.
This is the best game I have ever played of any type. It is my first MMORPG, and I am severely addicted. I don't think I will ever play any of my other games again.
My nomination for videogame strangeness still stands. But I accept and thank you for your corrections to my spotty childhood memories. Let me try again.
You are an anonymous boy. "Like many boys in the twenty-first century, [you have] a buddy from outer space. This one's from Blobolonia - a place where an evil emperor makes every-one eat only marshmallows and chocolate. In fact, for the emperor, healthy things like vitamins are poisonous." Your buddy is named Blobert, "blob" to his friends (i.e. you). He "came to Earth looking for someone to help him defeat the evil emperor," and picked anonymous boy as the best candidate. Blob turns into things based on what flavor jellybean you feed it. Things like ladders and trampolines and such. No complex machines, per se. You use it in various forms to navigate the sewer in search of treasure, while it follows you around bouncing and begging for more jellybeans. You are on a treasure hunt to buy vitamins to kill the evil emperor of Blobonia.
You are an anonymous boy. You just happen to have a blob, known only as "blob". It turns into things based on what flavor jellybean you feed it. Things like ladders and trampolines and such. No complex machines, per se. You use it in various forms to navigate the sewer in search of treasure, while it follows you around bouncing and begging for more jellybeans. There is no plot beyond the treasure hunt, and the fact that you have a blob.
Google runs on thousands of stripped down custom designed boxes running a custom linux os.
If microsoft bought them, they would have to essentially rebuild them from scratch, as the hardware couldnt run windows effectively, and the odds are good that windows couldnt handle the stress the way googles does. i.e. just die and hand it off, and sit there rotting.
In theory microsoft could leave it alone, but that doesnt work. Remember when they tried to convert hotmail to windows servers from bsd, and kepts screwing it up? I think they eventually managed that, but it was a mess. Now imagine converting google... it would be a clusterf**k.
Plus at that point it would just be cheaper to build their own.
What about those cool pens you can get at tradeshows that can write upside down? Those were developed for nasa, and are pretty cool.
On a slightly less sarcastic note, NASA did develop aerogel recently, which is pretty cool. If you need intensely advanced insulation. Not entirely sure what it's gonna be good for in the consumer sector, but it is undeniably cool.
I am often in the same situation. People tell me that I think totally differently from most people and am really smart and all that stuff. It's very hard to understand what they mean, because I just think the way I always have. I came to the conclusion that there are different types of intelligence, and people in various types view the other types as the intelligent ones.
I really think that intelligence just boils down to the equivilent of system registers in the brain. Being able to hold more of an understanding of what's going on than those around you makes you more intelligence. This can be applied as social intelligence, mathematical intelligence (understanding the systems behind the numbers), scientific intelligence (understanding larger portions or more detail in the natural world than most), etc. Its a curiosity.
I tend to have a social intelligence. I just think of it as common sense, but apparently others see it as something nice. Which helps, I guess.. but is weird. I look at a mathematically intelligent person and get intimidated. Or I look at the linguistically intelligent people who appear to be flaunting their intelligence by using ridiculously arcane words in common speech. It's more than likely they just know the words and use them without thinking.. but to people who don't it seems intelligent.
So I guess to answer your question, Intelligence isn't about what you know. It's about what you CAN know, and what you can process successfully.
Now, if you are looking for wisdom, you may want to make with the learning.
This is the funniest thing I have read all day. The mental image is classic. That said, thats the only place you get an image, as it's text based... so I would probably just be confused. (Uh Oh.. geek street cred dropping rapidly...)
I would've tried it, but they closed to new accounts until the hdd is restored.
That said, the most interesting thing is that the MUD is commercial. Which I would presume means that all those requests for death by god are being paid for. The game sells currency which players use in game for things.
Even if Anarchaea is free, Achaea is not... which means they just got some really great free advertising. If I was them I would have a yearly "hdd crashed" special event.
Not entirely - If you know the outputs from the key, and you know that somehow they are joined together within the key, you could create a routine in theory to run every possible connection/permutation. Admittedly this would take WAY WAY WAY too long in practice, and is thus pretty much useless, but it is possible.
Alternatively, you could create some kind of device that could rotate a key, locate the ports, and record the result when light is passed through it. But that could be prohibitively complicated.
Make it a 30 fiber system. Make it so 6 of those fibers must remain dark. Make 3 of them issue light, but one of those 3 issues a wavelength that tells the lock NOT to open, but you don't know which one. Add a light signal issuing from the key itself. Make the chain length vary between any combination 3,4,5, and 6 fibers chains. Now distribute the fibers around the barrel in a non-uniform, non-standard distribution.
These are not very hard to add to such a lock, but they make the math even harder. And they make it VERY difficult to develop a universal lockpick, because you would have a hard time making every fiber line up on the pick.
To pick it you would have to somehow make a key that matches the external hookups of the original key, but feeds the fibers out the back into a computer which could then begin decoding the math. Just getting the initial key to line up with the inner barrel of the lock would be quite the feat... doing the math in any reasonable time period would also be pretty damn impressive.
If I was going to approach it, I would try like hell to get a copy of the key (press in clay or something) and reproduce it.. then, with that knowledge, i would run the math externally generating signals. once i had a signal list, i would put the key into the lcok, and run the list rapidly.
To counteract that, you could simply have a length of time required for the light to trigger the open mechanism (i.e. for 3-5 ms, no more, no less) - and have a maximum attempts as well. Try more than twice, and the thing stops accepting input for 24 hours.
This thing is about as close to unpickable as it gets.
So I have 13.86 coming in the mail. I wonder what I could do with that. I could buy a cd, but that's just like giving it back. I could see a movie, but that just gives the money back to the parent company of the RIAA agencies. I could buy a book I suppose, but even that lets the money trickle back into the regime.
I guess I will just donate it to the EFF, and hope that everyone does. It would be great if they made a few million straight from the record company - would really make the settlement sting more.
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I looked at the screenshot and saw the OS X like buttons... my first thought was "Wow! They ported Crossover to OS X so now I can run iTunes on my mac!!"
Then I realized what I was thinking, and felt dumb.
Y2K was a non-event because we fixed it. Line by line, programmers went through all the old systems and fixed the bug. Had none of that work happened, it would have cause major problems. But the work took place, and the significant majority of the problems were solved before they hit... thus leading many people to talk about how it was all hype and there never was a problem in the first palce.
The big difference here is that we can't fix it. Eventually the fields will flip. And lord knows what is going to happen. Of course, this will take a long time, and we can't stop it... so panic is pointless. Better just to have a good think about it, and figure out how to minimize the impact. And then, after thousands of people do ridiculous amounts of work to soften or hopefully eliminate the practical impact, we can listen to people like you talking about how it wasn't really that big a deal at all and we got worked up over nothing.
You have a choice. You can accept a problem and solve it, or you can simply deny the problem is there. The first way works sometimes. The second way never works at all.
Are you suggesting that abolishing slavery and the mass murder of native americans has somehow reduced the value of our liberties?
All Ben said is that those who would trade their liberties for security simply don't value their liberties enough to be deserving of them, and as such don't really deserve security either.
Seems like that fits even now. Unless you simply don't think that keeping your liberties is really that big a deal.
There is a finanical motivation behind that though - they need to make windows development overall better, so people will stick with it, develop more apps for windows, and perpetuate the monopoly. They aren't competing with other windows products... they are competing with other systems like XCode, etc.
So basically, the improvements are so they can continue to rake in the dough from their systems.
From what I can tell, you can, but only one at a time. You pick the set from a drop down in iTunes.
That lawsuit was settled in September of 2003. When they were down to a skeleton company w/ 1 employee - their lawyer. They settled because they had no money to continue fighting, and needed to pay creditors.
So yes, after microsoft put them out of business by eliminating the market through monopolistic business practices, Be sued them for it and settled for 23 million when they couldn't go on.
This doesn't eliminate the original point.. it only shows how fully destroyed they were by Microsoft.
I hate when government officials talk about new taxes "generating" money. When he says he hopes the new tax "generates $65 million" he means "steals $65 million from people who otherwise could have used it on something"
New taxes are shit. The government gets a TON of money already. Learn to balance your budget instead of just creating new taxes to take more from your citizens.
Bah.
No wonder their name starts with 'git'
(too british, i wonder?)
Hehe. I probably could build the app, but I don't know anything about intrusion detection at all, and don't have the time to learn. (And thus I have no desire to spend the time building the app)
Those ideas were just from looking at what snort is on their page, and taking a guess at what a snort sig does based on the post and the app page.
My first thought was that this entire story was just a clever troll of some type. I mean, my ideas took about 2 minutes from a complete dead start with no real interest in the problem. And they still show more effort and initative than these clowns did. Show some pride people - actually aim for more than the bottom. Jeez.
In writing this, I realize that I am turning into my grandpa about 50 years too early. Ugh.
Maybe it's just me, but isn't the link pointing at a raw phpbb2 install with very very little customizaiton?
Is this just a forum for posting stuff, with the concept being "post snort sigs here asap"?
Why would anyone anywhere use this? you lose all the potential that the concept has by slamming it into a generic system. Why not create a db system that has various intrusion characteristics as bools, and you can attach a sig to a textual report with flagged characteristics, and then let admins and such search the db by characteristic or description text, or affected apps/protocols, etc. Other admins could hit a "have seen in wild" button to let the site rank various intrusion techniques by how common they are.. There is a lot of potential, and it is all squandered. Back to the drawing board.
I always thought Debian was essentially the linux implementation of the FSF/GNU ideals. Most other distros make compromises for usability, but debian never compromises on freedom. This is just the latest example of that. And more power too them for it.
The amazing thing here is this: In reaffiming their commitment to freedom, they are finding that they have to exclude some GNU documentation because it is considered non-free. In other words, Debian now seems to value free software more than the Free Software Foundation.
Thats disappointing, but at least Debian is sticking to their ideals without compromise. Too bad the FSF can't say the same.
I disagree. It definately has a chatroom feel to it. But it also has extensive quests and plotting involved, just like any other final fantasy game. You do quests to find items, which is definately not chat.. but does induce party based chatting.
The thing is.. there are also missions. Missions progress you through the plot, and let you follow the various stories in the world (which apparently will change over the story of the plot and/or time)
It seems to me that if developers release a game that I enjoy much much more than the so called "real games" I used to get, sending them a message that it's good would be the right thing to do.
Besides.. what makes a game real? Having to play it alone vs. characters that are entirely computer controlled? Thanks, but I think its the human interaction that makes mmorpgs so much more fun in the first place.
I can see that. Mine is the same way... they've been playing since November (most of em) - but we are all working to get to the same lvl. They are going for advanced jobs. I am going to stick with the jobs I have so I can drop back at the same time and keep pace.
:)
The only real issue I can see is that my subjob will be weaker than theirs is eventually. But that will be fixable with a few weekends of just going on my own lvling my subjob once I'm higher level.. probably wont fall behind much on main lvl cause of the xp reqs at high lvls, so it should work out.
But yeah..
Then again, I've made some in game friends at my lvl who started around the same time at me. Absolute worst case scenario would be to start a different linkshell.
I can see that. I am still pseudo n00b. Lvl 16 RDM, still hanging in the dunes.
That said, I have a linkshell with some friends, and we are all closing in on our final combo of jobs (some already have subjobs, but are going for advanced jobs) - I am aiming for a RDM/WHM combo, so when they get their advanced, we will all switch jobs and lvl the subs together. That way we will get back up faster, and get past that annoying "starting over" design. (and the n00bs)
I agree that is a weird setup in it's design though.
This is the best game I have ever played of any type. It is my first MMORPG, and I am severely addicted. I don't think I will ever play any of my other games again.
Highly Highly Recommended.
No, but I certainly wish it had been. That's pure comedy gold.
Almost as funny as the various filter delays that have conspired to make posting this comment require 5 attempts.
It's almost not worth it.
My nomination for videogame strangeness still stands. But I accept and thank you for your corrections to my spotty childhood memories. Let me try again.
You are an anonymous boy. "Like many boys in the twenty-first century, [you have] a buddy from outer space. This one's from Blobolonia - a place where an evil emperor makes every-one eat only marshmallows and chocolate. In fact, for the emperor, healthy things like vitamins are poisonous." Your buddy is named Blobert, "blob" to his friends (i.e. you). He "came to Earth looking for someone to help him defeat the evil emperor," and picked anonymous boy as the best candidate. Blob turns into things based on what flavor jellybean you feed it. Things like ladders and trampolines and such. No complex machines, per se. You use it in various forms to navigate the sewer in search of treasure, while it follows you around bouncing and begging for more jellybeans. You are on a treasure hunt to buy vitamins to kill the evil emperor of Blobonia.
Makes perfect sense to me.
You are an anonymous boy. You just happen to have a blob, known only as "blob". It turns into things based on what flavor jellybean you feed it. Things like ladders and trampolines and such. No complex machines, per se. You use it in various forms to navigate the sewer in search of treasure, while it follows you around bouncing and begging for more jellybeans. There is no plot beyond the treasure hunt, and the fact that you have a blob.
Makes perfect sense to me.
Google runs on thousands of stripped down custom designed boxes running a custom linux os.
If microsoft bought them, they would have to essentially rebuild them from scratch, as the hardware couldnt run windows effectively, and the odds are good that windows couldnt handle the stress the way googles does. i.e. just die and hand it off, and sit there rotting.
In theory microsoft could leave it alone, but that doesnt work. Remember when they tried to convert hotmail to windows servers from bsd, and kepts screwing it up? I think they eventually managed that, but it was a mess. Now imagine converting google... it would be a clusterf**k.
Plus at that point it would just be cheaper to build their own.
What about those cool pens you can get at tradeshows that can write upside down? Those were developed for nasa, and are pretty cool.
On a slightly less sarcastic note, NASA did develop aerogel recently, which is pretty cool. If you need intensely advanced insulation. Not entirely sure what it's gonna be good for in the consumer sector, but it is undeniably cool.
I am often in the same situation. People tell me that I think totally differently from most people and am really smart and all that stuff. It's very hard to understand what they mean, because I just think the way I always have. I came to the conclusion that there are different types of intelligence, and people in various types view the other types as the intelligent ones.
I really think that intelligence just boils down to the equivilent of system registers in the brain. Being able to hold more of an understanding of what's going on than those around you makes you more intelligence. This can be applied as social intelligence, mathematical intelligence (understanding the systems behind the numbers), scientific intelligence (understanding larger portions or more detail in the natural world than most), etc. Its a curiosity.
I tend to have a social intelligence. I just think of it as common sense, but apparently others see it as something nice. Which helps, I guess.. but is weird. I look at a mathematically intelligent person and get intimidated. Or I look at the linguistically intelligent people who appear to be flaunting their intelligence by using ridiculously arcane words in common speech. It's more than likely they just know the words and use them without thinking.. but to people who don't it seems intelligent.
So I guess to answer your question, Intelligence isn't about what you know. It's about what you CAN know, and what you can process successfully.
Now, if you are looking for wisdom, you may want to make with the learning.
This is the funniest thing I have read all day. The mental image is classic. That said, thats the only place you get an image, as it's text based... so I would probably just be confused. (Uh Oh.. geek street cred dropping rapidly...)
I would've tried it, but they closed to new accounts until the hdd is restored.
That said, the most interesting thing is that the MUD is commercial. Which I would presume means that all those requests for death by god are being paid for. The game sells currency which players use in game for things.
Even if Anarchaea is free, Achaea is not... which means they just got some really great free advertising. If I was them I would have a yearly "hdd crashed" special event.
Not entirely - If you know the outputs from the key, and you know that somehow they are joined together within the key, you could create a routine in theory to run every possible connection/permutation. Admittedly this would take WAY WAY WAY too long in practice, and is thus pretty much useless, but it is possible.
Alternatively, you could create some kind of device that could rotate a key, locate the ports, and record the result when light is passed through it. But that could be prohibitively complicated.
Make it a 30 fiber system. Make it so 6 of those fibers must remain dark. Make 3 of them issue light, but one of those 3 issues a wavelength that tells the lock NOT to open, but you don't know which one. Add a light signal issuing from the key itself. Make the chain length vary between any combination 3,4,5, and 6 fibers chains. Now distribute the fibers around the barrel in a non-uniform, non-standard distribution.
These are not very hard to add to such a lock, but they make the math even harder. And they make it VERY difficult to develop a universal lockpick, because you would have a hard time making every fiber line up on the pick.
To pick it you would have to somehow make a key that matches the external hookups of the original key, but feeds the fibers out the back into a computer which could then begin decoding the math. Just getting the initial key to line up with the inner barrel of the lock would be quite the feat... doing the math in any reasonable time period would also be pretty damn impressive.
If I was going to approach it, I would try like hell to get a copy of the key (press in clay or something) and reproduce it.. then, with that knowledge, i would run the math externally generating signals. once i had a signal list, i would put the key into the lcok, and run the list rapidly.
To counteract that, you could simply have a length of time required for the light to trigger the open mechanism (i.e. for 3-5 ms, no more, no less) - and have a maximum attempts as well. Try more than twice, and the thing stops accepting input for 24 hours.
This thing is about as close to unpickable as it gets.
So I have 13.86 coming in the mail. I wonder what I could do with that. I could buy a cd, but that's just like giving it back. I could see a movie, but that just gives the money back to the parent company of the RIAA agencies. I could buy a book I suppose, but even that lets the money trickle back into the regime.
I guess I will just donate it to the EFF, and hope that everyone does. It would be great if they made a few million straight from the record company - would really make the settlement sting more.