Either that or they're just trying to cut costs in general (not unreasonable considering SourceForge.net isn't exactly cheap to run... the cost of the connections alone has to be monstrous....)
Also, considering SourceForge is their product and SourceForge.net is a great demo of their functionality/scalability they'd have to be looking to sell the whole SourceForge business, not just SourceForge.net for it to make sense... Logical buyers would probably be RedHat or IBM. It would be a PR coo for whoever buys it, and if it's IBM and they move it over to their hardware it'd be a REALLY good marketing point... especially for their new Linux mainframe...
Nothing like fanning the flames of random speculation =)
It's the same company... the company came out U of Washington's HIT Lab... unfortunately the company is (or was) a scam... they negotiated an exclusive licens for the tech from the HIT Lab, IPOed, and then the founders both sold all of their stock and took off, basically leaving a promising idea tied up in a hollow shell of a company...
The problem is that the technology requires incredibly small, precise optics that move at high speed... this can be done, but they have yet to produce anything durable enough for consumer use...
Microvision puts out a press release roughly once per year AND NEVER RELEASES ANY DAMN PRODUCTS. They've been working on making this technology work since ~1993 and still have nothing to show for it. It's vapor, move along.
Wow, you can finally change drivers without rebooting? Cool. One of my most hated things about windows was needing to reboot because I installed a new driver or changed my network settings...
Anyways, I don't consider pointing out that they've fucked up trying to do this kind of technology before to be FUD. Thank you for the additional info on the technology involved (and I'd be interested to see if the DLL conflict management actually works...)
I thought for a moment that the mutual admiration society between RMS and Icazza was finally coming to an end...
I do have to admit that the "Oh, I didn't really mean Gnome should be based on.NET" was amusing, though. The email making that statement and then describing why it would be a good idea anyways was great.
Ah well, Ximian will get to write one program and sell to the Windows and Linux markets, which is the entire point of Mono to begin with. (Anthing else is just justification for this common sense business decision.)
I'm sure the users want a system that by default only gives them 85% of the bandwidth because it reserves the rest for talking to Microsoft's servers (this is an XP out of the box default).
On another note they've used auto-update of the OS through MSN for a while and a few of the people I know stopped using MSN because of compatability problems caused by the updates... updates that they couldn't turn off... One person actually had to reinstall her machine because one of the updates completely hosed her system...
updating core OS dlls without checking with the user is a BAD idea...
Then again I'm sure the argument from Microsoft will be if you're only using our apps compatibility isn't a problem =)
In general having a system that tells you an update is available and provides an automatic method for installing it is good... but it should also provide a way to find more information if you're a technical user and let you know of any potential problems and let you decide what to do...
One feature I find really useful (I do lots of web programming) in MySQL that I couldn't find an equivalent of in Postgres is FULLTEXT indexes... The only thing I could find was a hack in the contrib repository...
Is there any plan to add this or some equivalent? Is it already there and I just missed it? (it's one of the reason I haven't done versions of my open source releases for Postgres)
You want the long and short reason Miguel is so hot on.NET? Market share for Ximian apps, period. The technology will let Ximian write apps that they can sell to both the Linux and Windows markets. Pretty transparnt, really.
"Apparently they barely got the x86 stuff to work."
Huh? I find this statement interesting, as I own a Transmeta laptop and have never had a problem with compatibility... If you're trying to say that it's a hell of a lot of work to implement another architecture in code morphing I'd agree, but beyond that I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Seems like following the progress of e17 is interesting enough in and of itself... something about a multi-threaded open gl accelerated window manager what also includes a file manager and full widget library strikes me as 'making progress'. Not to mention the coolness of the underlying libraries...
Bottom line: I'm angry that I will need to KEEP PAYING over and over again for a piece of software... There is no reason, as an example, that my copy of WinME (which I DID pay for as it came bundled with my laptop) should just stop working because I didn't feed the monopoly my yearly (or however frequently it's due) fee.
The Macs use a PCI bus, so for controller cards etc. it's very similar to the PC. On the CPU side the upgrade path has actually been smoother, as upgrade modules continually come out for PPC hardware to switch to the latest CPU WITHOUT A MOTHERBOARD UPGRADE.
I haven't really looked at the cost of upgrades, as I don't use Macs personally, but I know the above from friends who are Mac users.
Now if they can just survive long enough to actually release Deus Ex...
Seriously, I own a lot of Loki products and hope they stay around... I enjoy an occasional game and REALLY don't want to keep a Windows box around just for that...
My SDSL is through a Covad reseller... and I just
finished moving web, email, etc over to my in-house server... I hope the bit about their operating companies being unafected plays out...
And I've actually had great service through Covad and my operating company... 30 days from order to being online, and I got a free router out of the deal because the tech wasn't supposed to bring one (and before people bitch about me stealing, I called them and they said to just keep it...)
Hmmm.... ActiveX components might qualify... and I'd have to look into dates for M$ Update, Netscape's Smart Update, InstallShield's Install Anywhere Web edition, some of Marimba's software might apply... And those are what comes to mind off the top of my head... Let's just say I REALLY doubt McAfee was the only one doing this in 1998.
Surprise, surprise yeat another patent on something obvious that tons of people are doing... Although considering they filed in 1998 it may not be that hard o find prior art on this one. Arguably any form of web-based installer violates this patent (or counts as prior art) as software installation can be considered 'administration'.
KDE only releases source packages. Check the KDE Package Policy for more info. So bitch to whoever is doing the RedHat packages, or to RedHat itself to start doing packages. It's not KDE's problem.
Don't bother... every Dell laptop I've ever seen
(and I've seen plenty, my company uses them) is visibly slower than a comparable IBM or Sony when using the same CPU.
Get real. They never offered real support. Offering one desktop model with no configurable options as your only system with linux pre-installed hardly qualifies as offering support on the desktop. We have several workgroups using Dell hardware running linux, and we did all the installs ourselves because we couldn't order the systems we wanted with linux pre-installed on them.
Dell's offering linux pre-installed on desktops and laptops was nothing but an attempt to gain publicity. Now that linux isn't pulling headlines, they're dropping support...
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hehe too little sleep... yes, coo should be coup... thanks for pointing it out.... 4 times (as of this post) =)
Also, considering SourceForge is their product and SourceForge.net is a great demo of their functionality/scalability they'd have to be looking to sell the whole SourceForge business, not just SourceForge.net for it to make sense... Logical buyers would probably be RedHat or IBM. It would be a PR coo for whoever buys it, and if it's IBM and they move it over to their hardware it'd be a REALLY good marketing point... especially for their new Linux mainframe...
Nothing like fanning the flames of random speculation =)
The problem is that the technology requires incredibly small, precise optics that move at high speed... this can be done, but they have yet to produce anything durable enough for consumer use...
Anyways, I don't consider pointing out that they've fucked up trying to do this kind of technology before to be FUD. Thank you for the additional info on the technology involved (and I'd be interested to see if the DLL conflict management actually works...)
I do have to admit that the "Oh, I didn't really mean Gnome should be based on .NET" was amusing, though. The email making that statement and then describing why it would be a good idea anyways was great.
Ah well, Ximian will get to write one program and sell to the Windows and Linux markets, which is the entire point of Mono to begin with. (Anthing else is just justification for this common sense business decision.)
On another note they've used auto-update of the OS through MSN for a while and a few of the people I know stopped using MSN because of compatability problems caused by the updates... updates that they couldn't turn off... One person actually had to reinstall her machine because one of the updates completely hosed her system... updating core OS dlls without checking with the user is a BAD idea...
Then again I'm sure the argument from Microsoft will be if you're only using our apps compatibility isn't a problem =)
In general having a system that tells you an update is available and provides an automatic method for installing it is good... but it should also provide a way to find more information if you're a technical user and let you know of any potential problems and let you decide what to do...
Is there any plan to add this or some equivalent? Is it already there and I just missed it? (it's one of the reason I haven't done versions of my open source releases for Postgres)
You want the long and short reason Miguel is so hot on .NET? Market share for Ximian apps, period. The technology will let Ximian write apps that they can sell to both the Linux and Windows markets. Pretty transparnt, really.
And designing a website has what to do with writing drivers for video cards???
Huh? I find this statement interesting, as I own a Transmeta laptop and have never had a problem with compatibility... If you're trying to say that it's a hell of a lot of work to implement another architecture in code morphing I'd agree, but beyond that I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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I submitted an article on it, but it got rejected. Hit http://node777.net for links to the relevant information.
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I haven't really looked at the cost of upgrades, as I don't use Macs personally, but I know the above from friends who are Mac users.
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What version are you using? In 2.2 there's a checkbox at the bottom of the proxies configuration dialog that says Auto Configure Proxies...
Seriously, I own a lot of Loki products and hope they stay around... I enjoy an occasional game and REALLY don't want to keep a Windows box around just for that...
And I've actually had great service through Covad and my operating company... 30 days from order to being online, and I got a free router out of the deal because the tech wasn't supposed to bring one (and before people bitch about me stealing, I called them and they said to just keep it...)
Hmmm.... ActiveX components might qualify... and I'd have to look into dates for M$ Update, Netscape's Smart Update, InstallShield's Install Anywhere Web edition, some of Marimba's software might apply... And those are what comes to mind off the top of my head... Let's just say I REALLY doubt McAfee was the only one doing this in 1998.
Surprise, surprise yeat another patent on something obvious that tons of people are doing... Although considering they filed in 1998 it may not be that hard o find prior art on this one. Arguably any form of web-based installer violates this patent (or counts as prior art) as software installation can be considered 'administration'.
Actually, it's the fact that they finally HAD a bail hearing... I mean the guy was in for what, 3 weeks without a hearing?
According to RedHat, ReiserFS still has one or two known data corruption problems, so they won't put it in the installer.
KDE only releases source packages. Check the KDE Package Policy for more info. So bitch to whoever is doing the RedHat packages, or to RedHat itself to start doing packages. It's not KDE's problem.
Don't bother... every Dell laptop I've ever seen (and I've seen plenty, my company uses them) is visibly slower than a comparable IBM or Sony when using the same CPU.
Dell's offering linux pre-installed on desktops and laptops was nothing but an attempt to gain publicity. Now that linux isn't pulling headlines, they're dropping support...