Guy One says that the lack of malware has nothing to do with the fact that Windows makes up such a large portion of the market, it's just because it's such a great OX.
Guy Two says that it'd be just as easy to write malware for OS X but no one bothers to, and asks whether that's the excellent design Guy One was asking about.
You state that the small expanse of OS X users makes it possible to have a very stable community but that that may not be the case if it were ever to expand to Windows level.
So in summary, enjoy stability while it lasts. You recongnize the validity of his claims, he doesn't address yours. Everyone is happy.
I think you both make good points, making me posting completely uncessessary.
Yeah, now students can find even more unproductive things to do in the computer labs like play yahoo pool or texas hold 'em for six hours a day.
Every person I knew growing up who had a serious interest in computers did most of their learning and working at home anyway because haveing the guy who teaches you "how to turn the computer on" level classes to 9th graders sometimes isn't the best for teaching you C++.
That makes quite a bit of sense from that perspective. If you have thousands of computers it's probably cheaper to replace them when they're off warrenty than to have a full time IT staff dedicated to keeping your P3 700 box running all the new software. I don't know that it's infact less costly monitarily, but in terms of increased hassel and paperwork they're probably much better off.
Huh? We were making fun of UW-M's rampant drinking problem. There's a good 3 blocks of university avenue that are filled with "shamblers" every night of the week, even sunday as I had the pleasure of seeing last night.
The Joe Sixpack user of email, or 40,000 UW Madison students with their laptops sitting around choking bandwidth with myspace profiles and itunes.
Speaking of, if they don't block Itunes, it's going to be a copyright wasteland like it already is inside every campus building with a wireless network.
I still own a TV but I know how you feel. After I plugged the VCR in I forgot to plug the cabl;e back in and neither my girlfrined nor I realized that we couldn't watch TV until two months later when I guest said she wanted to catch some show. DVDs and PS2 are the only reason that TV exists which, with a hectic scedual, means that it gets turned on maybe 2 hours every 3 days if it's lucky.
By that logic we have a zombie lurching party every day. Why zombies need to lurch on the tuesday night of midterm weekend, or a tuesday in general is beyond me, but it's very irresponsible of them. Thankfully I have to drive through their swarm up University Avenue every night and do my best to raise the body count and delay their shambling masses.
Not a lot of money my ass.
As a student working part time(in Madison Wi, voted best city in America to live in twice in the past ten years, as well as a number of other awards)I make about $11,000 a year. That covers food, rent, car insurance, gas, movies, electricity, etc etc. The only thing it doesn't pay for is tuition.
Now lets assume I made 10 times that? Not a lot of money? I'd sell my mother to have another $66K a year to play with.
Until FICA goes down to the corner drugstore to get me some cough syrup when I'm sick (as I am now) I don't want to give them a red cent. I wish I was part of the black market economy.
The company I work for has a database of every serial number of every laser printer that has left our warehouse. Most are being sent off to be torn apart for spare parts, but we still have the records.
Depends on the terms. Although my cycles cost me only the added electric and cooling bill of my CPU working harder, which in Wisconsin isn't much, the amount of calculations they're getting done would cost them time on a render farm or one of their own.
They need me (or us, as it would be) more than we need them. It's a concept that Hollywood seems to be forgetting in the past years, if they go under we just have to watch TV, if we stop going to their shitty movies they're going to have much bigger problems.
It's not going to happen anyway, if you had nerd rendering the next Star Wars every ounce that could be extrapolated would be on the internet by the end of it and the MPAA doesn't seem to take that too well.
People tend to take the criticism seriously because it's the same kind of generally groundless spiteful mockery that they have to deal with from other Americans.
Yes, I know bush rapes the elderly and sets fire to all thing loveable and that he's clearly the anti-christ incarnate, but maybe if everyone would shut up about it already it wouldn't be so annoying.
Of course, why should they make laws when they could be making blockbust action films and writing the great american novel.
Beaurocracy is not intersting, forms are not intersting, law is rarely intersting. Saying that anything people aren't interested in is obviously not worth doing is mind blowing. Do you think there's a majority of people who care about campaign finance reform? Anti-trust regulation? Steel tariffs? The allocation of national spending or the production runs at the mint? No, but it still has to get done.
And what's to keep sellers and growers from charging more than a fair market value through monopolies and artificially inflated prices?
Regulation. Unless ofcourse you consider those "fair" in the sense that people are paying so it must be fair (seems to work for the cosmetics industry) Standards about preserivng during shipping, use of dangerous pesticides, price markups. Regulations keep us honest.
Not many. The MPAA is already charging $7-12 for me to watch the movie plus another $10-30 if I want to buy it. The last thing they're getting from me is a single cycle of my CPU. If they send me a movie ticket they can use my network, otherwise they can put the billions of dollars they're making to good use.
You forgot "Move pile of crap off charging pad." Except that that's probably more likely for a lot of people as they have decently functional phones that they don't have to toy with.
Everyone seems to talk about socialized healthcare like it's the be all end all of advancement in the world, like no nation is good enough without government provided health care for all.
Yet, in nations with such care, Canada and the UK spring to mind as examples that people have openly discussed on this board in the past, the whole thing is a giant buracratic debacle filled with long lines and frustration. It's especially funny that you link to Thomas Jefferson who was hands down one of the largest opponents to any national program. If you want to talk about TJ, roll back the national bank, the income tax, the standing army, all other federal taxes while you're at it, and then call me about "a national healthcare system."
Working at Wal-Mart is a shitty job, working at McDonalds is a shitty job, being a janitor(non-union) is a shitty job, shitty jobs have shitty benifits. When you do a job that a monkey with a hand scanner can perform you can't expect them to value you as an indespencible part of the work force; not to mention working in a field where employee retention spans anywhere from a few weeks during the holidays to forever for people unmotivated to move beyond cashiering at a Wal-Mart Supercenter. Providing these people with health care is a logistical and logical nightmare. Before anyone jumps on me about being a heartless shill though, I worked for Target for three years and watched on a daily basis the problems invovled with even providing health care for a fraction of a single stores employees.
But if Intel stops going for higher clockspeeds how am I supposed to know how impressive an AMD 3200+ is? I need my completely reliant rating system intact!
I guess the FX chips have already destroyed my ability to rate things simply.
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Well, put in context:
Guy One says that the lack of malware has nothing to do with the fact that Windows makes up such a large portion of the market, it's just because it's such a great OX.
Guy Two says that it'd be just as easy to write malware for OS X but no one bothers to, and asks whether that's the excellent design Guy One was asking about.
You state that the small expanse of OS X users makes it possible to have a very stable community but that that may not be the case if it were ever to expand to Windows level.
So in summary, enjoy stability while it lasts. You recongnize the validity of his claims, he doesn't address yours. Everyone is happy.
I think you both make good points, making me posting completely uncessessary.
Or maybe in the American school computer labs of the 90s that I was talking about, the ones that they're going to get to in their time machines.
Yeah, now students can find even more unproductive things to do in the computer labs like play yahoo pool or texas hold 'em for six hours a day. Every person I knew growing up who had a serious interest in computers did most of their learning and working at home anyway because haveing the guy who teaches you "how to turn the computer on" level classes to 9th graders sometimes isn't the best for teaching you C++.
Maybe you haven't been reading the comment boards, we've got stupid people in droves, but atleast all the idiots know how to use computers.
That makes quite a bit of sense from that perspective. If you have thousands of computers it's probably cheaper to replace them when they're off warrenty than to have a full time IT staff dedicated to keeping your P3 700 box running all the new software. I don't know that it's infact less costly monitarily, but in terms of increased hassel and paperwork they're probably much better off.
God willing I'd be both, we must all do our part to stop the rising threat of zombism in our great city.
Either that or hide on Bascom and push the exhausted zombies into eachother like a comical snowball.
Huh? We were making fun of UW-M's rampant drinking problem. There's a good 3 blocks of university avenue that are filled with "shamblers" every night of the week, even sunday as I had the pleasure of seeing last night.
The Joe Sixpack user of email, or 40,000 UW Madison students with their laptops sitting around choking bandwidth with myspace profiles and itunes.
Speaking of, if they don't block Itunes, it's going to be a copyright wasteland like it already is inside every campus building with a wireless network.
I still own a TV but I know how you feel. After I plugged the VCR in I forgot to plug the cabl;e back in and neither my girlfrined nor I realized that we couldn't watch TV until two months later when I guest said she wanted to catch some show. DVDs and PS2 are the only reason that TV exists which, with a hectic scedual, means that it gets turned on maybe 2 hours every 3 days if it's lucky.
By that logic we have a zombie lurching party every day. Why zombies need to lurch on the tuesday night of midterm weekend, or a tuesday in general is beyond me, but it's very irresponsible of them. Thankfully I have to drive through their swarm up University Avenue every night and do my best to raise the body count and delay their shambling masses.
Not a lot of money my ass.
As a student working part time(in Madison Wi, voted best city in America to live in twice in the past ten years, as well as a number of other awards)I make about $11,000 a year. That covers food, rent, car insurance, gas, movies, electricity, etc etc. The only thing it doesn't pay for is tuition.
Now lets assume I made 10 times that? Not a lot of money? I'd sell my mother to have another $66K a year to play with.
When everyone drives on the right side of the road and spells words like armor, color, and favorite correctly maybe we'll consider it.
Until FICA goes down to the corner drugstore to get me some cough syrup when I'm sick (as I am now) I don't want to give them a red cent. I wish I was part of the black market economy.
The company I work for has a database of every serial number of every laser printer that has left our warehouse. Most are being sent off to be torn apart for spare parts, but we still have the records.
Name in the credits? Sold!
Depends on the terms. Although my cycles cost me only the added electric and cooling bill of my CPU working harder, which in Wisconsin isn't much, the amount of calculations they're getting done would cost them time on a render farm or one of their own.
They need me (or us, as it would be) more than we need them. It's a concept that Hollywood seems to be forgetting in the past years, if they go under we just have to watch TV, if we stop going to their shitty movies they're going to have much bigger problems.
It's not going to happen anyway, if you had nerd rendering the next Star Wars every ounce that could be extrapolated would be on the internet by the end of it and the MPAA doesn't seem to take that too well.
People tend to take the criticism seriously because it's the same kind of generally groundless spiteful mockery that they have to deal with from other Americans.
Yes, I know bush rapes the elderly and sets fire to all thing loveable and that he's clearly the anti-christ incarnate, but maybe if everyone would shut up about it already it wouldn't be so annoying.
Of course, why should they make laws when they could be making blockbust action films and writing the great american novel. Beaurocracy is not intersting, forms are not intersting, law is rarely intersting. Saying that anything people aren't interested in is obviously not worth doing is mind blowing. Do you think there's a majority of people who care about campaign finance reform? Anti-trust regulation? Steel tariffs? The allocation of national spending or the production runs at the mint? No, but it still has to get done.
And what's to keep sellers and growers from charging more than a fair market value through monopolies and artificially inflated prices? Regulation. Unless ofcourse you consider those "fair" in the sense that people are paying so it must be fair (seems to work for the cosmetics industry) Standards about preserivng during shipping, use of dangerous pesticides, price markups. Regulations keep us honest.
Not many. The MPAA is already charging $7-12 for me to watch the movie plus another $10-30 if I want to buy it. The last thing they're getting from me is a single cycle of my CPU. If they send me a movie ticket they can use my network, otherwise they can put the billions of dollars they're making to good use.
You forgot "Move pile of crap off charging pad." Except that that's probably more likely for a lot of people as they have decently functional phones that they don't have to toy with.
Everyone seems to talk about socialized healthcare like it's the be all end all of advancement in the world, like no nation is good enough without government provided health care for all.
Yet, in nations with such care, Canada and the UK spring to mind as examples that people have openly discussed on this board in the past, the whole thing is a giant buracratic debacle filled with long lines and frustration. It's especially funny that you link to Thomas Jefferson who was hands down one of the largest opponents to any national program. If you want to talk about TJ, roll back the national bank, the income tax, the standing army, all other federal taxes while you're at it, and then call me about "a national healthcare system."
Working at Wal-Mart is a shitty job, working at McDonalds is a shitty job, being a janitor(non-union) is a shitty job, shitty jobs have shitty benifits. When you do a job that a monkey with a hand scanner can perform you can't expect them to value you as an indespencible part of the work force; not to mention working in a field where employee retention spans anywhere from a few weeks during the holidays to forever for people unmotivated to move beyond cashiering at a Wal-Mart Supercenter. Providing these people with health care is a logistical and logical nightmare. Before anyone jumps on me about being a heartless shill though, I worked for Target for three years and watched on a daily basis the problems invovled with even providing health care for a fraction of a single stores employees.
Am I the only one who caught the Ads for Symantics data protection server system at the top of those pages?
I sense the foulest of ad related plots.
But if Intel stops going for higher clockspeeds how am I supposed to know how impressive an AMD 3200+ is? I need my completely reliant rating system intact! I guess the FX chips have already destroyed my ability to rate things simply.
You're right, Xbox needs more games about dating, farming, and zoo keeping, those kill in Japan.