lack of concious perception does not imply lack of processing. just because we can't HEAR above 22.05 Khz doesn't mean higher frequencies don't make point with contacts at some point in the ear, and pipe into non-conscious cognitive processes. for instance, maybe 'inaudible' frequencies could still affect the mood that a piece of music puts you into, by a channel other than conscious perception. i'm not claiming that this happens--it may or may not--but one can't go from "we don't report hearing frequencies above 22.05" to "sampling above 44.1 is irrelevant to sound quality". Lack of perception does not imply lack of effect. all we can say, perhaps, is that no study has demonstrated any effects of those missing higher partials. tests, as in all science are ongoing.
on the other hand, yes, that dude needs to learn about the Nyquist frequency.
And what if i upgrade my CPU? Then later upgrade my power supply? At one point i upgrade my hard drive, transferring the contents, and eventually i upgrade everything, even the case!
and let's say that, instead of doing this over the course of 3 years, i do it over the course of three days...
and, instead, why not 'downgrade' every component, and then sell your copy of WindowsXP 'bundled' with a fancy 286 with an unusually large harddrive...
yup--the same thing happened to me when i was in the middle of my decision procedure for firefox vs. opera. for the record, i used opera for years, and love the program dearly, but use firefox for just two reasons:
1. right clicking to create new folders in bookmarks/personal bar
2. bookmark synchronization
i was also gambling that enLighter (www.enLighter.com) will be ported to ff before msie.
firefox works exactly the way opera does, until you delete the default bookmarks--firefox comes with special bookmarks which define the functionality--so in this respect, firefox is more customizable, and can duplicate opera's behaviour.
opera's major strength is in session handling, IMO
there's a big difference between making time to do other, more important work, and making time to vegetate. the first is the hallmark of an over-achiever, the second is the hallmark of an under-achiever.
in education, at least, readers NEED to be able to handwrite and/or type notes on the page, to highlight (in color codes), to underline, to do text searches, to star, to add a question mark, to carry ALL of their texts and research materials, etc., and it does miracles for my studying in some subjects to create heirarchical bookmarks (context improves memory, and having an 'outline' which doubles as a set of bookmarks allows one to switch 'levels' very quickly, rather than cross referencing an outline with a text)
the device you've described is *so much* like a book that it has no real advantages over a regular book. the whole point of ebooks is *added* functionality. if the new functionality is seamless enough (handwriting doesn't work too well in Acrobat yet, iMarkup sucks, and PDF annotator has no advanced functions. Enlighter is a reasonable solution for highlighting web pages, but has no handwriting support OneNote is a dream, however) the advantages will be clear enough that a sizable number of users will deal with some of the downsizes of a 'fancy' ebook. (not to mention the attraction of piracy--textbook P2P anyone?? (reply with links! lol))
My tablet PC has 8 hours of battery life, and carries all of my texts. It's worth about $800 dollars. A Knapsack full of textbooks is worth about $500 dollars. You're not carrying that much more money around with you, although the Tablet PC might be easier to fence, i suppose--but on the other hand, Tablet PCs can be configured to 'phone home' with laptoplocate and whatnot--can your backpack do that??
GUI use does NOT imply mouse use. Windows explorer is a hell of a lot faster for me than cmd.exe, what with being able to hit the first letter of the filename to go to that part of the alphabet in a huge list--now if only i could continue on to the second letter like in firefox...
and where is OpenOneNote?? untill they cover that part of MSOffice functionality i won't even consider switching--how else am i supposed to record lectures and have the audio linked up to each line of typed OR handwritten notes? *thank you MS*
so yes, there are measurable differences. the proper issue is whether race is *causing* those differences or whether race is merely *correleated* with them. maybe the water is bad in location x. maybe they eat lots of fish in asia (they do!). maybe irish society is more accepting of 'fightin' (i don't know). also, maybe women are treated differenly in our society in a way that affects their intelligence?
in one study, asian females were given a math test. one group was implicity reminded of their asian heritage, and how asians are better at math. another group was implicity reminded of their female status, and how women are worse at math. can you guess which group did better?
" I wish they had Slashdot moderation for scientific research publishings"
actually I think that 'peer reviewed journals' had 'peer review' long before 'slashdot' had 'slashdot moderation'--as for who does better--let the games begin!
"Interestingly there is an accepted and known test for machine intelligence --the Turing test"
er, well the Turing Test continues to be the subject of controversy. this is not a very good comparison because the Turing Test is not like 'an IQ test for computers'--it's not supposed to measure intelligence so much as it's supposed to test *for the very presence* of intelligence. at least that's my understanding of Turing's rather controversial test.
"Why are emotions and logical understanding mutually incompatible? Show me the emotion that doesn't have a logical cause? If I'm angry with someone, I have a reason. If I'm afraid of something, then I have a reason. It is not always wise to act on these feelings straight away but that has little to do with whether I can comprehend them or not."
it's pretty unclear what you mean by a 'logical' cause--what would be an example of an illogical cause?? i'm not inclined to believe in random or uncaused events--but just because every emotion you have has a cause does NOT mean that you automatically understand the cause. it has been shown time and time again in psychology (The Misattribution of Arousal, look it up) that people tend to 'make up' the 'reason' for their emotions *after they experience them*--that is, we feel a certain way, and we quickly, mostly unconsciously, play scientist on ourselves to develop a pet *theory* as to why we feel as we do--not that there's anything wrong with that--indeed i encourage the most active theorizing in understanding oneself--but to simply assume that you understand youself is quite an error.
AH YES--i was an NES baby but my first computer was a TRS-80--although i did have the tape deck--my mother and grandmother drove to some small down a few hours away to buy the whole kit and kaboodle for me for like 50 bucks (a screaming deal at the time)--the best thing was that, in addition to many well labelled tapes chock full of games, it came with 2 or 3 'mystery tapes'--nothing labelled, and there were long empty spaces with no programs--i would hunt around, and i found a trivia game, some old files--but the best was when i randomnly chose some number on the tape counter, managed to execute *something* and saw the following message:
you are standing in a dense jungle.
*cursor blinks*
"huh?"
you are standing in a dense jungle.
you are standing in a dense jungle.
you are standing in a dense jungle....
after a week or so i dicovered that i could type 'north' and 'south' etc. i was amazed the day i finally found that pyramid in that dense jungle! and then the nazi killed me immediately... this was how i discovered text adventures (there was one more to be found on the tape)--they were a real mystery to me until i got the internet several years later and discovered that they were purely some oddity on an unlabeled tape..
keep in mind, however, that children who are driven to do their work by extrinsic forces often lack any intrinsic motivation for those activities--"why am i doing this? they're making me learn, so it couldn't be because i WANT to learn--so it must be that the main purpose of learning is avoiding punishment. once the punishment is gone, i won't have to learn anymore--phew!"--and how many college students are there who 'just want a degree'--i.e. they JUST want the reward of a high paying job and that's it. fuck learning!--i'm doing this for a reason--MONEY...
this has be studied in social psycholgy in many ways, including reading programs involving free pizzas, etc. rewards and punishments tend to reduce intrinsic motivation. this is especially true if intrsic motivation was high initially, however the effect can be minimized if rewards a scaled based on performance, as opposed to a binary "task is complete, you get the reward" situation.
anyway, the point is, it is NOT as simple as "just fucking MAKE them do it!!!!"--that parenting philsophy can have troubles of its own. now, studies *have* demonstrate that parents who strike a balance between permissive and authoritarian parenting tend to achieve the best results, but we're far from establishing causation in that instance--maybe they're able to strike a balance because their children were more well adjusted to begin with...
i'm still waiting for the dupe on this one--thought it would be in a few hours ago?/** slashdot source-code pwn3d! */ public main(String[] args) { for (int i = 0; i SIZE_OF_INTERNET; i++) {
if (URLs[i].topic().equals("google")) {
URLs[i].post();
}
if (URLs[i].topic().equals("linux")) {
URLs[i].post();
}
} }
"I guess it was easier to create this law than for bank security to USE COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY and ask customers to remove their helmets before being allowed in the bank"
uhhh.. yeah... ask the nice man with the gun to remove his helmet... he'll have the common sense to realize that we can't tell the polic what he looks like if we can't see his face...
i'm not sure what you mean--ANY two 'different' pictures are going to send 'different' signals. the point was that they could detect the difference in these signals in the brain.
and using very similar pictures is neccessary to control variables--if the only difference between the two pictures is color, then the scientists can try to figure out specifically how color changes activity patterns--if you wanted to test shapes, then you should hold the color constant (or randomize it, of course--those are the 2 ways of controlling variables...)
Slashdot Mirror
lack of concious perception does not imply lack of processing. just because we can't HEAR above 22.05 Khz doesn't mean higher frequencies don't make point with contacts at some point in the ear, and pipe into non-conscious cognitive processes. for instance, maybe 'inaudible' frequencies could still affect the mood that a piece of music puts you into, by a channel other than conscious perception. i'm not claiming that this happens--it may or may not--but one can't go from "we don't report hearing frequencies above 22.05" to "sampling above 44.1 is irrelevant to sound quality". Lack of perception does not imply lack of effect. all we can say, perhaps, is that no study has demonstrated any effects of those missing higher partials. tests, as in all science are ongoing. on the other hand, yes, that dude needs to learn about the Nyquist frequency.
And what if i upgrade my CPU?
Then later upgrade my power supply?
At one point i upgrade my hard drive, transferring the contents,
and eventually i upgrade everything, even the case!
and let's say that, instead of doing this over the course of 3 years, i do it over the course of three days...
and, instead, why not 'downgrade' every component, and then sell your copy of WindowsXP 'bundled' with a fancy 286 with an unusually large harddrive...
Piracy != Theft.
Piracy != Theft.
Piracy != Theft.
Amen.
but does it run--oh wait...
wouldn't it lack appropriate insulation?
I've always had a hard time wielding non-existant weapons--doesn't this definition leave us with zero planets?
Tomorrow on Slashdot: Earth is not a Planet!
yup--the same thing happened to me when i was in the middle of my decision procedure for firefox vs. opera. for the record, i used opera for years, and love the program dearly, but use firefox for just two reasons:
1. right clicking to create new folders in bookmarks/personal bar
2. bookmark synchronization
i was also gambling that enLighter (www.enLighter.com) will be ported to ff before msie.
firefox works exactly the way opera does, until you delete the default bookmarks--firefox comes with special bookmarks which define the functionality--so in this respect, firefox is more customizable, and can duplicate opera's behaviour.
opera's major strength is in session handling, IMO
there's a big difference between making time to do other, more important work, and making time to vegetate. the first is the hallmark of an over-achiever, the second is the hallmark of an under-achiever.
in education, at least, readers NEED to be able to handwrite and/or type notes on the page, to highlight (in color codes), to underline, to do text searches, to star, to add a question mark, to carry ALL of their texts and research materials, etc., and it does miracles for my studying in some subjects to create heirarchical bookmarks (context improves memory, and having an 'outline' which doubles as a set of bookmarks allows one to switch 'levels' very quickly, rather than cross referencing an outline with a text)
the device you've described is *so much* like a book that it has no real advantages over a regular book. the whole point of ebooks is *added* functionality. if the new functionality is seamless enough (handwriting doesn't work too well in Acrobat yet, iMarkup sucks, and PDF annotator has no advanced functions. Enlighter is a reasonable solution for highlighting web pages, but has no handwriting support OneNote is a dream, however) the advantages will be clear enough that a sizable number of users will deal with some of the downsizes of a 'fancy' ebook. (not to mention the attraction of piracy--textbook P2P anyone?? (reply with links! lol))
My tablet PC has 8 hours of battery life, and carries all of my texts. It's worth about $800 dollars. A Knapsack full of textbooks is worth about $500 dollars. You're not carrying that much more money around with you, although the Tablet PC might be easier to fence, i suppose--but on the other hand, Tablet PCs can be configured to 'phone home' with laptoplocate and whatnot--can your backpack do that??
so maybe Dr. Brown was in the laying-low stage of your suggested cycle?? (and look where it got him...)
onscreen. keyboard.
GUI use does NOT imply mouse use. Windows explorer is a hell of a lot faster for me than cmd.exe, what with being able to hit the first letter of the filename to go to that part of the alphabet in a huge list--now if only i could continue on to the second letter like in firefox...
and where is OpenOneNote?? untill they cover that part of MSOffice functionality i won't even consider switching--how else am i supposed to record lectures and have the audio linked up to each line of typed OR handwritten notes? *thank you MS*
please note that higher metabolism is correlated with lower lifespan--to say nothing of the ill-effects of an excessively-high frequency of orgasm...
so yes, there are measurable differences. the proper issue is whether race is *causing* those differences or whether race is merely *correleated* with them. maybe the water is bad in location x. maybe they eat lots of fish in asia (they do!). maybe irish society is more accepting of 'fightin' (i don't know). also, maybe women are treated differenly in our society in a way that affects their intelligence? in one study, asian females were given a math test. one group was implicity reminded of their asian heritage, and how asians are better at math. another group was implicity reminded of their female status, and how women are worse at math. can you guess which group did better?
" I wish they had Slashdot moderation for scientific research publishings" actually I think that 'peer reviewed journals' had 'peer review' long before 'slashdot' had 'slashdot moderation'--as for who does better--let the games begin! "Interestingly there is an accepted and known test for machine intelligence --the Turing test" er, well the Turing Test continues to be the subject of controversy. this is not a very good comparison because the Turing Test is not like 'an IQ test for computers'--it's not supposed to measure intelligence so much as it's supposed to test *for the very presence* of intelligence. at least that's my understanding of Turing's rather controversial test.
"Why are emotions and logical understanding mutually incompatible? Show me the emotion that doesn't have a logical cause? If I'm angry with someone, I have a reason. If I'm afraid of something, then I have a reason. It is not always wise to act on these feelings straight away but that has little to do with whether I can comprehend them or not."
it's pretty unclear what you mean by a 'logical' cause--what would be an example of an illogical cause?? i'm not inclined to believe in random or uncaused events--but just because every emotion you have has a cause does NOT mean that you automatically understand the cause. it has been shown time and time again in psychology (The Misattribution of Arousal, look it up) that people tend to 'make up' the 'reason' for their emotions *after they experience them*--that is, we feel a certain way, and we quickly, mostly unconsciously, play scientist on ourselves to develop a pet *theory* as to why we feel as we do--not that there's anything wrong with that--indeed i encourage the most active theorizing in understanding oneself--but to simply assume that you understand youself is quite an error.
AH YES--i was an NES baby but my first computer was a TRS-80--although i did have the tape deck--my mother and grandmother drove to some small down a few hours away to buy the whole kit and kaboodle for me for like 50 bucks (a screaming deal at the time)--the best thing was that, in addition to many well labelled tapes chock full of games, it came with 2 or 3 'mystery tapes'--nothing labelled, and there were long empty spaces with no programs--i would hunt around, and i found a trivia game, some old files--but the best was when i randomnly chose some number on the tape counter, managed to execute *something* and saw the following message: you are standing in a dense jungle. *cursor blinks* "huh?" you are standing in a dense jungle. you are standing in a dense jungle. you are standing in a dense jungle. ...
after a week or so i dicovered that i could type 'north' and 'south' etc. i was amazed the day i finally found that pyramid in that dense jungle! and then the nazi killed me immediately... this was how i discovered text adventures (there was one more to be found on the tape)--they were a real mystery to me until i got the internet several years later and discovered that they were purely some oddity on an unlabeled tape..
why assume the function is linear?
keep in mind, however, that children who are driven to do their work by extrinsic forces often lack any intrinsic motivation for those activities--"why am i doing this? they're making me learn, so it couldn't be because i WANT to learn--so it must be that the main purpose of learning is avoiding punishment. once the punishment is gone, i won't have to learn anymore--phew!"--and how many college students are there who 'just want a degree'--i.e. they JUST want the reward of a high paying job and that's it. fuck learning!--i'm doing this for a reason--MONEY...
this has be studied in social psycholgy in many ways, including reading programs involving free pizzas, etc. rewards and punishments tend to reduce intrinsic motivation. this is especially true if intrsic motivation was high initially, however the effect can be minimized if rewards a scaled based on performance, as opposed to a binary "task is complete, you get the reward" situation.
anyway, the point is, it is NOT as simple as "just fucking MAKE them do it!!!!"--that parenting philsophy can have troubles of its own. now, studies *have* demonstrate that parents who strike a balance between permissive and authoritarian parenting tend to achieve the best results, but we're far from establishing causation in that instance--maybe they're able to strike a balance because their children were more well adjusted to begin with...
i'm still waiting for the dupe on this one--thought it would be in a few hours ago? /** slashdot source-code pwn3d! */
public main(String[] args) {
for (int i = 0; i SIZE_OF_INTERNET; i++) {
if (URLs[i].topic().equals("google")) {
URLs[i].post();
}
if (URLs[i].topic().equals("linux")) {
URLs[i].post();
}
}
}
ha! *I* ping GOOGLE--who's cooler now? (i have a friend who pings google using linux...)
"I guess it was easier to create this law than for bank security to USE COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY and ask customers to remove their helmets before being allowed in the bank"
uhhh.. yeah... ask the nice man with the gun to remove his helmet... he'll have the common sense to realize that we can't tell the polic what he looks like if we can't see his face...
i'm not sure what you mean--ANY two 'different' pictures are going to send 'different' signals. the point was that they could detect the difference in these signals in the brain. and using very similar pictures is neccessary to control variables--if the only difference between the two pictures is color, then the scientists can try to figure out specifically how color changes activity patterns--if you wanted to test shapes, then you should hold the color constant (or randomize it, of course--those are the 2 ways of controlling variables...)