I feel like it will be similar to Steroids in sports. Even illegal the pressure to take them pushes people. If they were legal then NO ONE would be clean because you will HAVE to take them to be in the game at all.
Not AC here, and I say everyone spamming the site with "Fuck Beta" needs to grow the fuck up too. I've been here a while now and remember the good old days of Taco, Cowboy Neal, and pink unicorns. Shit changes. You fuckers remind me of the assholes during Digg 2.0 days who eventually lowered Reddit standards.
Like a little toddler playing with a toy when the parent comes in and takes the toy away replacing it with another toy. The toddler gets angry and breaks the new toy because it isn't the toy it used to have leaving it with nothing to play with. This site is not yours and if they wanna fuck themselves then that is on them, but to break the new toy they gave you is just childish (because you are breaking my toy too!!!). Grow up and move on. Find a new site and teach them a real lesson, but please all you assholes breaking the comments section by spamming it, fuck you. They got the message already. Just fucking leave if all you have is a temper tantrum.
I am leaving/. At least for a while because I am over coming here and clicking the comments for this type shit instead of discussion. I may come back one day and see what happened to it but it wasn't the new layout that chased me off, it was the children being brats and breaking the new toy they were given that tipped me over. Don't like the site, go to another or hell, maybe even make your own.
"increases development time, and generally makes cross-browser scripting impossible. "
WTF are you talking about!? jQuery SOLVES those problems, and does it very well. I haven't have a single cross-browser problem in jQuery in years, and it is always quicker than JS from scratch on large projects.
And 10 years ago is what a lot of Slashdot users seem to be stuck in for this thread. I bet none of them have used node and know what additions it brings to regular JS or even looked at code for it. Node JS is server side and can power entire applications that never care about browser version so why is that relevant? I think most this thread is made of people who think javascript is like the IE 6 days and have no idea how to write proper JS.
I'll admit I did not read the article but have heard and read on other sites. My understanding though is this has nothing to do with "Cloud all the apps". The app is still located on your machine and run from your machine, but what got hacked was the database of the renter/owners, their private data, and some source code for some of their products. Excuse my ignorance, but how does this have to do with cloud based apps?
if you gave me $60 to hold for a day and came back the next day for your $60, and i gave you $70 - i still GAVE YOU $70. that 70 is now yours as i GAVE IT TO YOU. maybe my math was wrong counting, but it is MY responsibility to make sure what goes from my hands to your hands is whats correct. you can say its the "right thing" to help me with my mistake, but you can not say that what i gave to you is no longer yours when i realize that i made a mistake. its my job to properly count out and return the cash... i did poorly at my job and paid for it.
"race to the next light (even though it is red)" im guilty of this when im in a hurry... and people ask why i do it.
When im in a hurry, YES i do put time over money. AND, the sooner i get to the red light-> the sooner i hit the sensor-> the sooner that light changes to green-> the sooner i get where i am going. so YES, there is reason to speed to the next red light.
im not going to hurry to get to the mall, but i will hurry if im running late to work... late to work = fired from job = no money. or i might hurry to the ER: which seems to be more common now that i have a baby on tha way with a hypochondriac mother. just cause you arent in a hurry doesnt mean im not. i HATE that mentality, especialy when people decide that its THEIR job to regulate the speed of traffic and decide to slow me down. I have actualy been kept from the ER room by some bastard who decided that the mother of my childs throwing up non stop just wasnt something he should take a few seconds and just GET OUT OF MY WAY. people like that are nothing but selfish and rude. and they wear those like bumper stickers with a sense pride.
sorry to rant, but living in Orlando i have to deal with some of the worst driving in the country. yes, there are reasons to speed, even up to a red light. and its not YOUR job to decide if my life events live up to your moral standards to justify my actions. i dont get mad when i see people eat at mcdonalds, or smoke, or many things many people do that raise health care costs. dont get mad if i raise gas costs, especialy when i pay a rediculously high rent to live in a neighborhood that lowers my need to drive. i can walk to my dentist, my grocery store, my Dr, my drug store, and i work from home 2 days a week. so dont act like my driving is raising your prices cause i doubt you do as much as i do to lower gas prices overall. once again, sorry to rant, but dont blame people when you dont know the full story. its NOT your job to judge me.
The problem with your 3 concepts is you fail to notice the real problem isnt the item/right/power/tool, but who that tool is being given too.
1. should cameras be a right/tool of citizens to use? absolutley!
2.Should P2P be a tool given to the people? absolutley! ... all of the tools you name give power to "the People". The founding Fathers recognized that power and tools belong in the hands of The People. Giving power and tools to a government is a problem though. The Bill of Rights was created as the perfect example of my point. Sure you could give the governement any power it wants under the reasoning that "Should we not allow the governement this becsause they _might_ misuse it but probably wont". well, F yeah we should limit them because they might. obviously the founding fathers realized power was to be limited to governments because they might abuse it. If i abuse a tool, someone gets hurt or killed. if the governement abuses a tool, an entire nation gets hurt or killed.
because they MIGHT absue it is a perfectly good reason to limit powers to the government.
nowhere can i find that deciding to accept money for doing heroic acts declasifies someone as a hero. what defines a hero is:
a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
basicaly, ask yourself: would you run into that burning building for the piss poor amount firemen make(for the risk they are in). if your answer is no, then YES a fireman risking his life is a hero.
money has nothing to do with it. Firemen still choose to do something that most people would not do, and for that - Firemen are heros (wearing the outfit doesnt make you a hero, but running into the twin towers...especialy after the first collapsed, is a 100% heroic action - and i thank everyone of them that did this, cause i know you sitting on your ass at your computer would have never done it"
Maybe youve read too many comic book, cause i just dont get it. You dont have to be able to deflect bullets, fly through the air, and have a weakness of cryptonite to be a hero.
i know people who say Victoria Secrets ads are pronagraphic, and i know some who disagree.
i think your over simplifying the issue by only polling yourself on what porn is. this "you can just tell" definition only works for... well.... just YOU.
while most can agree that certain things are definitaly porn, thats not the problem. the problem is the, as you say, "rough edges". it would not be fair to force VS to redo their entire site(and comercial ads) just so they do not have to be forced to be victoriasecrets.xxx because one guy thought they were porn.
the problem is, who gets to make the definition: you, the current administration, the pope, me? all 4 of these people will produce different deffinitions, and that is unfair to the other 3. if the pope gets to decide then VS may become porn, and i think you and i can agree thats not quite right. if the current administraion gets to decide then a statue of lady liberty becomes pornagraphic, and im pretty sure you disagre with that, right?
i dont think that many people are saying "that no definition can exist" like you claim. i think the problem is, "who gets to define it".
if i remember correctly they only removed genitalia, not breasts. so they still have porn in the sistine chapel. i may be wrong though. anyway, some would still consider them porn even with the fig leaf because they show a naked man and woman together.
and still, what about novels? is graphic sexual novels considered pornagraphic? some say yes, some say no - and these have no pictures in them at all.
this governemnt has people that think a statue of lady liberty with a breast showing is not fit for the public. Do you agree? i know i dont. i dont care if my children see the The Birth Of Venus(which hangs in my living room), or The Creation of Adam (which is located on the ceiling of a church - this church is displaying porn by your definition).
I have had bosses that feel woman in bikinis is NSFW. do you agree? i know i dont.(ive also had bosses that didnt care what i looked at). so whos NSFW are you going by?
Many safe sex sites by your definitions would be blocked as porn. do you feel children looking for safe sex information should be blocked from these sites? i know i dont.(ex: safesexforminors.xxx - just doesnt seem right)
Many medical sites would also be blocked by your defnintions. do you agree? i know i dont.
Your definitions do nothing for defining porn. actualy your definition are dangerous, as the answers to them are based of what YOU or your BOSS think is porn and has nothing to do with what is really porn, as none of your definitions even once mentioned "sexualy explicit". in your "its ooohh sooo easy" comment you forgot to mention the one thing that woud actualy make sense (sexualy explicit). so maybe you need to go back to the drawing board and realise "its not easy as i thought". it sounds to me like you just want your morals made into laws and ignore the rest of our opinions.
Take me for instance:
at 14 i found my first porn magazine, and began looking at pictures downloaded on my older brothers computer. I quickly progressed to downloading animated gifs, jpegs and IIFs. between 15 and 18 i would have considered masturbating 3 times a day a slow day. now at 30 years old i still look at porn, but NOTHING substitues for being with a real woman. different strokes for different folks;)
i will let my children look at porn, because i understand they will find it no matter how hard i try to shelter them from it. i want to make sure when they find it they know they can come to me and i will be comfertable discussing it with them, instead of trying to pretend it doesnt exist.
ive been in both the stores here in Orlando, neither had then and neither knew when they would get them. it took them a few weeks after the release of the new imac to get them, i bet it will probably be similar for these. i dont see many people buying these and being too happy. they are supposed to be very slow in photoshop, and wont be up to speed for about a year. The sales person actualy suggested an older powerBook over the new macBook when i said it would be mainly for photoshop.
centrino is more of a spec than a chip. Centrino is to laptops what THX is to sound systems. It requires a certain level of performance with minimal power draw. and its suposed to be pretty good from what ive read. I want to say the processor is the Pentium M, which is a very good laptop processor.
i cant be 100%, but can you find an earlier reference? a link that predates mine? i dont care who said it first, either great minds think alike, or he just saw mine and remembered it. but the AC was just an @$$ for being rude about it.
Im not the first to reference ND, but the first to refer to an OS X release with a ND reference. I'll take credit for that. I was just pointing out that the post was a paraphased version of mine from a while back, so relax AC.
I live in central FL, and i know all about dressing to prevent strokes, but lets be honest here. The push up bra, high heels, layers of make-up, and the thong sticking up out of the mini skirt arent because their hot, its because they want to look "hot".
its not about feeling good. ive neve heard woman say "i love the way that thong rides up my @$$ crack", or about the comfertable nature of the push-up bra, and i KNOW woman love shoes that hurt. sexy clothes arent about comfort.
but your right when you say "Chances are it has absolutely nothing to do with YOU.". ding ding ding, thats the winning answer. its rude when the dork looks at her, but its a compliment when that guy that looks like colin farrel(sp?) keeps looking at her in the club.
you wear sexy clothes because you want to look sexy, period. the main reason to look sexy is to catch eyes, period. dont be mad because the eyes your catching are just the other sexy people
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I feel like it will be similar to Steroids in sports. Even illegal the pressure to take them pushes people. If they were legal then NO ONE would be clean because you will HAVE to take them to be in the game at all.
Not AC here, and I say everyone spamming the site with "Fuck Beta" needs to grow the fuck up too. I've been here a while now and remember the good old days of Taco, Cowboy Neal, and pink unicorns. Shit changes. You fuckers remind me of the assholes during Digg 2.0 days who eventually lowered Reddit standards.
Like a little toddler playing with a toy when the parent comes in and takes the toy away replacing it with another toy. The toddler gets angry and breaks the new toy because it isn't the toy it used to have leaving it with nothing to play with. This site is not yours and if they wanna fuck themselves then that is on them, but to break the new toy they gave you is just childish (because you are breaking my toy too!!!). Grow up and move on. Find a new site and teach them a real lesson, but please all you assholes breaking the comments section by spamming it, fuck you. They got the message already. Just fucking leave if all you have is a temper tantrum.
I am leaving /. At least for a while because I am over coming here and clicking the comments for this type shit instead of discussion. I may come back one day and see what happened to it but it wasn't the new layout that chased me off, it was the children being brats and breaking the new toy they were given that tipped me over. Don't like the site, go to another or hell, maybe even make your own.
"increases development time, and generally makes cross-browser scripting impossible. " WTF are you talking about!? jQuery SOLVES those problems, and does it very well. I haven't have a single cross-browser problem in jQuery in years, and it is always quicker than JS from scratch on large projects.
And 10 years ago is what a lot of Slashdot users seem to be stuck in for this thread. I bet none of them have used node and know what additions it brings to regular JS or even looked at code for it. Node JS is server side and can power entire applications that never care about browser version so why is that relevant? I think most this thread is made of people who think javascript is like the IE 6 days and have no idea how to write proper JS.
I'll admit I did not read the article but have heard and read on other sites. My understanding though is this has nothing to do with "Cloud all the apps". The app is still located on your machine and run from your machine, but what got hacked was the database of the renter/owners, their private data, and some source code for some of their products. Excuse my ignorance, but how does this have to do with cloud based apps?
With Google Glass, OnStar , this, and phone cameras/mics you can kiss privacy good bye. Even if it isn't you taking the picture, someone else is.
PRISM + Google Glass is a terrifying thought. Facebook has nothing on this combination.
I bike and during the winter I wear gloves, with this I would have to remove them before I could fire it? There's got to be a better solution.
if you gave me $60 to hold for a day and came back the next day for your $60, and i gave you $70 - i still GAVE YOU $70. that 70 is now yours as i GAVE IT TO YOU. maybe my math was wrong counting, but it is MY responsibility to make sure what goes from my hands to your hands is whats correct. you can say its the "right thing" to help me with my mistake, but you can not say that what i gave to you is no longer yours when i realize that i made a mistake. its my job to properly count out and return the cash... i did poorly at my job and paid for it.
"race to the next light (even though it is red)" im guilty of this when im in a hurry... and people ask why i do it.
When im in a hurry, YES i do put time over money. AND, the sooner i get to the red light-> the sooner i hit the sensor-> the sooner that light changes to green-> the sooner i get where i am going. so YES, there is reason to speed to the next red light.
im not going to hurry to get to the mall, but i will hurry if im running late to work... late to work = fired from job = no money. or i might hurry to the ER: which seems to be more common now that i have a baby on tha way with a hypochondriac mother. just cause you arent in a hurry doesnt mean im not. i HATE that mentality, especialy when people decide that its THEIR job to regulate the speed of traffic and decide to slow me down. I have actualy been kept from the ER room by some bastard who decided that the mother of my childs throwing up non stop just wasnt something he should take a few seconds and just GET OUT OF MY WAY. people like that are nothing but selfish and rude. and they wear those like bumper stickers with a sense pride.
sorry to rant, but living in Orlando i have to deal with some of the worst driving in the country. yes, there are reasons to speed, even up to a red light. and its not YOUR job to decide if my life events live up to your moral standards to justify my actions. i dont get mad when i see people eat at mcdonalds, or smoke, or many things many people do that raise health care costs. dont get mad if i raise gas costs, especialy when i pay a rediculously high rent to live in a neighborhood that lowers my need to drive. i can walk to my dentist, my grocery store, my Dr, my drug store, and i work from home 2 days a week. so dont act like my driving is raising your prices cause i doubt you do as much as i do to lower gas prices overall. once again, sorry to rant, but dont blame people when you dont know the full story. its NOT your job to judge me.
somewhere, someone in Tennessee was thinking to themselves "No sir Mr President, thats a Texas only quote."
The problem with your 3 concepts is you fail to notice the real problem isnt the item/right/power/tool, but who that tool is being given too.
... all of the tools you name give power to "the People". The founding Fathers recognized that power and tools belong in the hands of The People. Giving power and tools to a government is a problem though. The Bill of Rights was created as the perfect example of my point. Sure you could give the governement any power it wants under the reasoning that "Should we not allow the governement this becsause they _might_ misuse it but probably wont". well, F yeah we should limit them because they might. obviously the founding fathers realized power was to be limited to governments because they might abuse it. If i abuse a tool, someone gets hurt or killed. if the governement abuses a tool, an entire nation gets hurt or killed.
1. should cameras be a right/tool of citizens to use? absolutley!
2.Should P2P be a tool given to the people? absolutley!
because they MIGHT absue it is a perfectly good reason to limit powers to the government.
nowhere can i find that deciding to accept money for doing heroic acts declasifies someone as a hero. what defines a hero is:
a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
basicaly, ask yourself: would you run into that burning building for the piss poor amount firemen make(for the risk they are in). if your answer is no, then YES a fireman risking his life is a hero.
money has nothing to do with it. Firemen still choose to do something that most people would not do, and for that - Firemen are heros (wearing the outfit doesnt make you a hero, but running into the twin towers...especialy after the first collapsed, is a 100% heroic action - and i thank everyone of them that did this, cause i know you sitting on your ass at your computer would have never done it"
Maybe youve read too many comic book, cause i just dont get it. You dont have to be able to deflect bullets, fly through the air, and have a weakness of cryptonite to be a hero.
i know people who say Victoria Secrets ads are pronagraphic, and i know some who disagree. i think your over simplifying the issue by only polling yourself on what porn is. this "you can just tell" definition only works for... well.... just YOU. while most can agree that certain things are definitaly porn, thats not the problem. the problem is the, as you say, "rough edges". it would not be fair to force VS to redo their entire site(and comercial ads) just so they do not have to be forced to be victoriasecrets.xxx because one guy thought they were porn. the problem is, who gets to make the definition: you, the current administration, the pope, me? all 4 of these people will produce different deffinitions, and that is unfair to the other 3. if the pope gets to decide then VS may become porn, and i think you and i can agree thats not quite right. if the current administraion gets to decide then a statue of lady liberty becomes pornagraphic, and im pretty sure you disagre with that, right? i dont think that many people are saying "that no definition can exist" like you claim. i think the problem is, "who gets to define it".
if i remember correctly they only removed genitalia, not breasts. so they still have porn in the sistine chapel. i may be wrong though. anyway, some would still consider them porn even with the fig leaf because they show a naked man and woman together.
and still, what about novels? is graphic sexual novels considered pornagraphic? some say yes, some say no - and these have no pictures in them at all.
the definition of porn isnt that easy.
this governemnt has people that think a statue of lady liberty with a breast showing is not fit for the public. Do you agree? i know i dont. i dont care if my children see the The Birth Of Venus(which hangs in my living room), or The Creation of Adam (which is located on the ceiling of a church - this church is displaying porn by your definition). I have had bosses that feel woman in bikinis is NSFW. do you agree? i know i dont.(ive also had bosses that didnt care what i looked at). so whos NSFW are you going by? Many safe sex sites by your definitions would be blocked as porn. do you feel children looking for safe sex information should be blocked from these sites? i know i dont.(ex: safesexforminors.xxx - just doesnt seem right) Many medical sites would also be blocked by your defnintions. do you agree? i know i dont. Your definitions do nothing for defining porn. actualy your definition are dangerous, as the answers to them are based of what YOU or your BOSS think is porn and has nothing to do with what is really porn, as none of your definitions even once mentioned "sexualy explicit". in your "its ooohh sooo easy" comment you forgot to mention the one thing that woud actualy make sense (sexualy explicit). so maybe you need to go back to the drawing board and realise "its not easy as i thought". it sounds to me like you just want your morals made into laws and ignore the rest of our opinions.
Take me for instance: ;)
at 14 i found my first porn magazine, and began looking at pictures downloaded on my older brothers computer. I quickly progressed to downloading animated gifs, jpegs and IIFs. between 15 and 18 i would have considered masturbating 3 times a day a slow day. now at 30 years old i still look at porn, but NOTHING substitues for being with a real woman. different strokes for different folks
i will let my children look at porn, because i understand they will find it no matter how hard i try to shelter them from it. i want to make sure when they find it they know they can come to me and i will be comfertable discussing it with them, instead of trying to pretend it doesnt exist.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind.html please read that before you back up that silly claim
ive been in both the stores here in Orlando, neither had then and neither knew when they would get them. it took them a few weeks after the release of the new imac to get them, i bet it will probably be similar for these. i dont see many people buying these and being too happy. they are supposed to be very slow in photoshop, and wont be up to speed for about a year. The sales person actualy suggested an older powerBook over the new macBook when i said it would be mainly for photoshop.
centrino is more of a spec than a chip. Centrino is to laptops what THX is to sound systems. It requires a certain level of performance with minimal power draw. and its suposed to be pretty good from what ive read. I want to say the processor is the Pentium M, which is a very good laptop processor.
i cant be 100%, but can you find an earlier reference? a link that predates mine? i dont care who said it first, either great minds think alike, or he just saw mine and remembered it. but the AC was just an @$$ for being rude about it.
Im not the first to reference ND, but the first to refer to an OS X release with a ND reference. I'll take credit for that. I was just pointing out that the post was a paraphased version of mine from a while back, so relax AC.
hey that sounds familar, oh yeah, thats cause:
3 71459 - from when 10.4 was released
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=147629&cid=12
"Because you don't have any BALLS" - by Anonymous Coward
am i the only one who thinks thats funny?
I live in central FL, and i know all about dressing to prevent strokes, but lets be honest here. The push up bra, high heels, layers of make-up, and the thong sticking up out of the mini skirt arent because their hot, its because they want to look "hot".
its not about feeling good. ive neve heard woman say "i love the way that thong rides up my @$$ crack", or about the comfertable nature of the push-up bra, and i KNOW woman love shoes that hurt. sexy clothes arent about comfort.
but your right when you say "Chances are it has absolutely nothing to do with YOU.". ding ding ding, thats the winning answer. its rude when the dork looks at her, but its a compliment when that guy that looks like colin farrel(sp?) keeps looking at her in the club.
you wear sexy clothes because you want to look sexy, period. the main reason to look sexy is to catch eyes, period. dont be mad because the eyes your catching are just the other sexy people