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Intel Launches Centrino Duo Notebooks
An anonymous reader writes "Intel has officially introduced their Centrino Duo platform. The new Centrino uses the Yonah processor which I guess is now called Core Duo. AnandTech has a review of notebooks based on it and the results are pretty impressive. They tested two identical notebooks, one based on Centrino Duo and one based on Centrino. The Duo notebook lasted 30 minutes longer on battery and was faster in the benchmarks. You can't beat longer battery life and better performance."
A beowulf cluster of those!!!!
How can they be identical if they are based on different motherboards?
Apple decided to go with Intel...because of these laptops...
It looked like, from the title, that Intel was launching, not just a new chip for notebook machines, but actual notebook machines. That would certainly have Dell and HP shaking in their boots!
BTW, the link titled view specification chart on http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/duo/index.h tm contains no specifications at all.
New Powerbooks next Tuesday (TM)
From Centrino Duo page:
"Ready for Windows XP Vista*
Support for the latest software when it arrives."
What the hell is "Windows XP Vista"? A new Linux distribution?
I can't believe someone would rate the parent post as "informative" without ever looking at the article.
In the article, Anandtech clearly states that their request for identical notebooks was filled by Asus's W-series notebooks. Since Asus is a huge ODM, they provided identical notebooks with the only difference being the new chipset, processor combo. The processors (Dothan and Core Duo) were even matched clock for clock at 1.86Ghz. The comparison is amazingly good and shows very clearly that the new processor has a great boost and performance and battery time. Next time, please RTFA before posting drivel.
Cause you can. Make it weigh less than 1kg and you have a real winner.
is 30 mins that significant ?
Obviously if your train journey lasts 30 mins more than your current battery life then is does.
But I would go with a margin of error of at least 30 mins in battery life depending on individual usage plus wifi, bluetooth, external devices etc.
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In the article it says that the new integrated video chip in the Centrino triad will display Vista's user interface without any problems. The new 3945abg wireless also supports some of the new advanced wireless technologies with Windows own WLAN client.
I personally have the JVC 7310 notebook which uses the first generation Centrino ultra-low voltage processors in a tiny notebook which weighs less than 1kg (1.99 pound to be exact). JVC later released the 741 which included a Dothan 1.1Ghz CPU. Yes, they use standard hardware and Linux runs just fine on it. I'm sure JVC will be releasing a Core Duo ultra-low voltage notebook very soon.
All these breakthroughs in technology will be considered ancient when batman introduces the worlds best computer ever. The bat-nipple xp.
Women- the final frontier...
Someone wake me up from this nightmare.
I don't want to think about how bad it will be when the Intel desktop CPUs show up later this year.
Anybody know of any "subnotebooks" announced with centrino duo?
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How well has Intel improved the performance of its integrated graphics chipset? I'd like to see what I can look forward to if Apple decides to go with Intel and not ATI or nVidia. While I understand these aren't meant to be gaming "powerhouses", I'd still like to do some light gaming on it. (FWIW, I've play World of Warcraft, at around 20fps, on my old iBook G4 800 and my desktop P3 750 (ti4200), which was acceptable. I'd like to see at least this level of performance).
If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
You can't beat longer battery life and better performance.
How about a quieter fan?
You kids! Haven't you learned not to peak at your presents before Christmas Day?
Seriously, once I got over having expectations for either Christmas presents or the Keynote, I stopped being so disappointed and started enjoying both Christmas and MWSF much more.
I can remember a group of us being stunned that our hoped-for "Apple PDA" turned out to be the iPod. We felt so betrayed at the time. But look how that turned out. And meanwhile, the PDA market has mostly been stagnant, or has merged with (read: become a feature of) telephony.
So pull up a deck chair, grab a kool aid, sit back, and prepare to have the warm emanations of the RDF wash over you pleasantly.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
... the SLIGHTLY better power consumption is probably a result of moving from 90nm to 65nm - it is possible that a 65nm single-core would still have better power consumption !!!
As a result I would really want to see how things will be compared to a 65nm (dual-core or not) AMD Turion and before paying around 500 US$ for the CPU only I would rather wait for a dual-core 64 bit CPU (eventually with 4 MB L2).
You can't beat longer battery life and better performance.
Yes you can! Just spend more on advertising.
May the Maths Be with you!
And so what? Put it to context, I'm sure he has every right to say so. It's like Bush saying he's happy that bin Laden got to near-death condition.
Maybe it's just me, but a dual core notebook seems a little wierd. As internet connections speed up we do more and more on the server, the notbook (phone, trio, etc) becomes more of a slow single core type system IMO. Dual core notebooks will use a lot of batery too. I'd rather have a thinner client than that.
No Sigs!
Yeah, but does it make my MP3s sound better?
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
Face it, this idea everything would be done on a server and you would only need a "thin client" or such has been nothing much more than a pipe-dream.
One major reason is cost, the end clients have become more powerful and the price has dropped. The difference in cost between having a low powered end client versus a standard one isn't enough to justify anyone moving to a different model.
Then toss in the adversion most people have to "not owning it" and it becomes clear why this has never taken off. Look at the adversion people here on slashdot have to subscription music! Do you think any of these people will want to subsribe to software? Sure there will be some people who put up a server at home and work that way but that isn't a killer-app.
Notebooks and even phones for that matter will continue to get more powerful. There will be markets for low cost phones, but those same markets are not of any interest to the central server market advocates as these markets most likely won't have the money or inclination to use the service.
If you want your central server model you have to look no further than the green screen systems that are in use in many industries doing real work. Its really hard to sell someone something when the solution already exists.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
I've been here since the beginning when Malda started this place. I just choose not to post on every story.
"You can't beat longer battery life and better performance."
:-)
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Sure you can.... longer battery life, better performance and lower pricing
And it's easy to top that one as well
..."You can judge a book by its cover". So in this case, it seems that the cover of one of the notebooks is slightly faster and has a little better battery time than the other.
The view was horrible and the smell was even worse; Julie severely regretted becoming a proctologist.
(The point being that better lifetime and performance are no brainers only if all other quality measures don't suffer.)
"The new slogan is supposed to signify Intel's shift away from focusing "inside" and starting to look at platforms and solutions for the end users."
What does this sentence mean? Intel is going to make their own hardware and software now?
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
There is around a 5-10% performance increase in benchmarks I utterly distrust (i.e. the same benchmarks that always favor Pentium4 3.0ghz to AMD64 4000+), and the battery is generally around 5-10% less for cpu intensive applications. Where's the improvement?
And please show us some real benchmarks.
I don't know anyone who uses this chip and I hear a lot of bad things about them. When's the P5 coming out?
Can I bum a sig?
It's Service Pack 3 for Windows® XP®, but instead of calling it SP3 they call it Vista® and put a price tag on it.
HTH.
Can you say that again, but this time with a "Conan O'brien In the Year 2000" voice please?
So, this new fangled wireless card Intel have produced, 3945ABG.
Are we Linux users going to get a driver for it?
An extra 30 minutes battery life, and a dual core CPU for multitasking, would both be quite beneficial for me, but without Linux wireless drivers (no ndiswrapper please) it's a no-go.
'Core Duo'? How long before we see the 'Pentium' branding fade away entirely?
OP Said:You can't beat longer battery life and better performance."
Well, except with even longer battery life and even better preformance for even less money. I think that would beat it.
Top tier developers use ssh.
If you are already VPNing into a system, what's the advantage of SSH over telnet?
I don't know anyone who uses this chip
Centrino mobile technology is a chipset, not a chip. Until now, it has consisted of a Pentium M CPU plus specific supporting chips including a specific brand of onboard 802.11b adapter.
When's the P5 coming out?
Given that "Pentium" comes from the Greek word for the number 5 plus a Latin suffix, wouldn't "Pentium 5" be redundant?
Any other Ruski think CPU name is funny?
IMO, we need a new product from battery manufacturers to get any really significant increases. It's apparent that Li's are nearing their potential.
Prove it.
Ok, pardon me for asking the obvious question:
How much are these laptops going to cost?
When are they going to be available?
I was going to buy a laptop for running Fedora Core at the end of January. I was planning to spend 1000-1200$ Is this out of my league (and time frame)?
Robert Nagle, Idiotprogrammer, Houston
Intel is going to make their own hardware and software now?
Well, they've been making their own hardware since before many of us were born.
The strategy they're now adopting seems to be to start selling more hardware directly to consumers, rather than just selling components to OEMs who then integrate and sell to consumers.
Frankly I'm surprised that the "Intel Inside" campaign has been so successful for the past 10 years, since they're basically spending millions to market a 1-inch sticker to consumers. It's time they take that brand identity they've built up and start taking advantage of it.
... don't expect much. The blurb for their "Vista-ready" chipset, they're not promising anything:
Translation: you'll still need a third-party GPU if you want decent 3D graphics performance.
I have been a mac user since they were invented. I was an Apple 2 user before that. Not too many problems. I had to replace the cd drive in my g3 tower. The hard drive in my g4 12 in powerbook mostly died. It did work when I held the machine at an angle, so I was able to burn all the important stuff to cds before replacing the drive. Actually my old Franklin brand apple 2 clone still works. As does my old Mac LC. I am a still firm believer that Apple hardware is top notch despite the problems I've had. The hardware will likely outlast its usefulness.
... there are strong roumors that AMD might have 65nm in the second half of this year or even before that!
so I guess the dual core one will not only get 'owned' faster, but the extra battery life will enssure anys worms are able to send out an extra half-hour of intrustion attempts. Nice going--great progress.
Jokes aside, MP3 playback for Linux actually used to be a headache and helped spur the development of Robert Love's preemptible kernel patches and many other enhancements to the scheduler and reductions of latency from the main Kernel team. You can see MP3 playback was used heavily as a diagnostic tool before these patches ended up in the vanilla kernel.
;)
SMP machines with dual CPUs (or in this case, dual CPU cores) don't tend to have problems like that, so yes, having a dual core actually makes your MP3s sound better =)
Then again, if you're encoding your music collection to a crappy format like MP3, when you could be using far better formats (and more CPU intensive, where having a faster machine helps, too), then you don't really need them to sound better
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I am happy to see Intel producing duel core tech but it apears that this centrino is not 64 bit so I don't see the point in it. Both Intel and AMD are making 64 bit x86 processors so that is likely to be the standard of the future... so why buy a processor that is still 32 bit?
I miss the Karma Whores.
Big Duo! Showtime!