There's something stupid and something important about this "how should we call it" war. The silly part is that a name is not really important, linux could be named Freenux and our lives would continue the same. A name is not important, the important is what describes and in the "thing" we should put our efforts, not in how to call it. There's a long way to go, things to be made and remade but we can cut this stupid flame war and turn people's heads to what's important. GNU made a BIG contribution to free software, but if people forgets that is people's fault (who usually is very ungratefull). IMHO, Linux is Linux, GNU is GNU and BOTH of them create an enviroment that we can call GNU/LINUX, but please leave the option to people (yes that ungratefull people)
Wrong, we are the kind of idiot that would rewrite the entire OS to adapt the new needs, Whiz-Bang OS will be Linux 18.3.17. Because the freedom enviroment in Linux development is what attracts new developers more and more, and because almos every nerd I know, who 4 years ago was writing windoze shareware is now writing linux opensourced apps, in the same free time (free time...that why they call us nerds...;)
I'm 24, I'm young, and I'm making good money and all thanks to linux.
Ok. RIAA don't want mp3 to be used by record labels...I get that part... But, How the hell they are going to stop me from encoding my CD's and play them in my car-office-bathroom-house? mp3 is popular because people use it, not record labels...so why all this news about "killing mp3"???????
Like I said...when today's users reach decission levels, linux not only will have support, it'll control the world...it just take time. Our future sucess is guaranteed as long as companies "feel" the need to support linux, and that feeling is only efective in their pockets.
This guy is waiting for more requests on linux??? God, he's missing the wave! I know many companies that without knowing it, are using linux every day. And they do it because after asking solutions to companies like them, they get scared of their prices and run to smaller companies who solve their problems for 1/10 of nortel prices... I saw linux boxes used in tiny rooms at big buildings roofs routing ip, and when I asked why I got: "We were tired of going up and down the elevator 20 floors twice a day with NT, so we put Linux and now we do it once a month". But nobody in the company knoes except "techies". "Techies" will exist always, so why big companies lie to their customers. They won't have a large network running with no techies. If they want it, they have to hire us, and pay good money. I say: "Wait 5-10 years, let our generation reach managment levels in organizations and let's see how we run everything from desktops to critical mission apps in Linux". Remeber we are the GNU generation...
How can you call Wassenaar an agreement if most of those countries were somehow indecuted to sign that? Wassenaar, in a second, turned ITAR regulations a worlwide law. And the funny part is that, even when my country has signed that sh*t, US still blocks our acquisitions of Hi-End systems for "security reasons"
Similar Experinece A Bank offered me $1500/month for a programmer position (well, they call VB languaje). Anyway, I thougth that I still could attend my freelance work (Satellite Image Processing, GIS Design & Implementation). I was excited with the posibility to make +/- $2500/month. (2 jobs, no study) My first day was terrible, they gave me a module of the system to mantain...god, what a piece of shit! They guy who was working on it had no idea of what he was doing! But one week of stress, no sleep, headache and dealing with idiots who was enough to go back to my old living. 1 job, finish my degree (last year) Money is great but you have to keep time to waste it...
Now is clear to me that the so called "lack of development roadmap" in linux is it's real strenght. Microsoft don't have a real development plan for it's products instead, they have a big, hughe commercial plan for their captive users. I can happly say I've never buyed or advised somebody to use their products, and I certainly never will.
Today's definition of Spy Satellite is a picture of a truck where you can clearly see the bolts on it's roof. We are talking about 1cm resolution...live, plus infrared and maybe something more. So your government don't need to buy someone else's images, they can acquire the picture of my mother making out with the milkman if they want to...
Maybe the problem of exclussion that some geeks suffer every day in highschool is just a reflection of the society we live in. Knowledge is valueless for most people. If we ask 1000 persons: "Is the end of the world: name 100 personalities you would save to rebuild our world" I bet my balls that 90% of the list will be basketball players, and hollywood stars. PATETIC In a world were a 500 pages book is $5 and a cheap entretainment world magazine is about $3 what can we expect. In a world Where the weight of your success is not meassured in creation but in money. The same society that scandalizes about bulimia and anorexia, and at the same time wants more and more skinny models. I been always sure: The problem is not us...
This could lead to a new product!!! Imagine it's marketing potencial!!! The one and only, MULTIMEDIA FRIDGE!!! Yes, you can work and have cold soda, sandwichs, yesterday's pizza and beer, at the reach of your hand!
John Sniffpal, a cab driver at NYC, crashed last month in his $2500 Ford cab. Incredibly, Sniffpal had charges for not giving the right exchange to passengers and for illegall possesion of one WD40 can that were not CFC free. That proves that all cab drivers are in the useless junk group, aside with pro sprot players and programmers. This proves that politicians, church members and military forces are the only clean people in the country.
I find great that the russian gvt put some money on R&D. Today this kind of investment is only done in specific countries in the world. Let's face it, the time it gets an investor to learn where the hell is Malasia is too long, so when he knows Malasia he won't put money in Uruguay, even if there's a project there that will succed. Anyway investors usually don't understand what they are investing in anyway... Many countries receive money from the World Bank or similar institutions and burn it.
Industry needs to sell something! All those big money made at NASDAQ needs to be put in something investors (Idiots in suit) feels like the cutting edge of tech. So anything that combines this words would do it fine in pushing company XXX stock's up:
I See...Problems! Problems Related to anything but computers. It's funny to watch those people acting if it is the end of the world...Well, they are the CIA, they make their living with things like this...
Interesting Article, is nice to hear what this kind of people thinks, people that really made something big for all of us... But maybe Dennis missed a point. Unix broke in several branches of development that really hurted it's potential. But those things happened because of Big companies playing with the good 'ol Unix. Linux in the other hand, by now, is not ruled by economic interests but by excellence and the pride of the people who develops it. And it's path is free of Big Companies with marketing schedules, promises or stock prices... When you let people create freely, you can expect only the best...
I'm tired of hearing this stupid stories about great new copy protection systems. I've been hearing them for the last...12 years?. Piracy will exist forever.
I think Corel is not stupid, they made some money and they are re-estructurating their activities. Less resources on NetWinder means more on software, their primary line of work. We can expect a cheaper netwinder, and a more competitive Corel. Looks like a smart move to me.
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Have you ever thougth that when we talk about a user friendly Linux, we have to deal with this kind of people?
God! There's so much work to do...
There's something stupid and something important about this "how should we call it" war.
The silly part is that a name is not really important, linux could be named Freenux and our lives would continue the same. A name is not important, the important is what describes and in the "thing" we should put our efforts, not in how to call it. There's a long way to go, things to be made and remade but we can cut this stupid flame war and turn people's heads to what's important.
GNU made a BIG contribution to free software, but if people forgets that is people's fault (who usually is very ungratefull).
IMHO, Linux is Linux, GNU is GNU and BOTH of them create an enviroment that we can call GNU/LINUX, but please leave the option to people (yes that ungratefull people)
Just my 2 cents
Wrong, we are the kind of idiot that would rewrite the entire OS to adapt the new needs, Whiz-Bang OS will be Linux 18.3.17. Because the freedom enviroment in Linux development is what attracts new developers more and more, and because almos every nerd I know, who 4 years ago was writing windoze shareware is now writing linux opensourced apps, in the same free time (free time...that why they call us nerds...;)
I'm 24, I'm young, and I'm making good money and all thanks to linux.
Ok. RIAA don't want mp3 to be used by record labels...I get that part...
But, How the hell they are going to stop me from encoding my CD's and play them in my car-office-bathroom-house?
mp3 is popular because people use it, not record labels...so why all this news about "killing mp3"???????
Please RIAA explain me this!
Like I said...when today's users reach decission levels, linux not only will have support, it'll control the world...it just take time.
Our future sucess is guaranteed as long as companies "feel" the need to support linux, and that feeling is only efective in their pockets.
This guy is waiting for more requests on linux???
God, he's missing the wave!
I know many companies that without knowing it, are using linux every day. And they do it because after asking solutions to companies like them, they get scared of their prices and run to smaller companies who solve their problems for 1/10 of nortel prices...
I saw linux boxes used in tiny rooms at big buildings roofs routing ip, and when I asked why I got:
"We were tired of going up and down the elevator 20 floors twice a day with NT, so we put Linux and now we do it once a month". But nobody in the company knoes except "techies".
"Techies" will exist always, so why big companies lie to their customers. They won't have a large network running with no techies. If they want it, they have to hire us, and pay good money.
I say: "Wait 5-10 years, let our generation reach managment levels in organizations and let's see how we run everything from desktops to critical mission apps in Linux". Remeber we are the GNU generation...
How can you call Wassenaar an agreement if most of those countries were somehow indecuted to sign that?
Wassenaar, in a second, turned ITAR regulations a worlwide law. And the funny part is that, even when my country has signed that sh*t, US still blocks our acquisitions of Hi-End systems for "security reasons"
Similar Experinece
A Bank offered me $1500/month for a programmer position (well, they call VB languaje). Anyway, I thougth that I still could attend my freelance work (Satellite Image Processing, GIS Design & Implementation).
I was excited with the posibility to make +/- $2500/month. (2 jobs, no study)
My first day was terrible, they gave me a module of the system to mantain...god, what a piece of shit! They guy who was working on it had no idea of what he was doing!
But one week of stress, no sleep, headache and dealing with idiots who was enough to go back to my old living. 1 job, finish my degree (last year)
Money is great but you have to keep time to waste it...
That's a good ./ poll
not that cheap things Rob's posting...
Now is clear to me that the so called "lack of development roadmap" in linux is it's real strenght.
Microsoft don't have a real development plan for it's products instead, they have a big, hughe commercial plan for their captive users.
I can happly say I've never buyed or advised somebody to use their products, and I certainly never will.
Today's definition of Spy Satellite is a picture of a truck where you can clearly see the bolts on it's roof. We are talking about 1cm resolution...live, plus infrared and maybe something more. So your government don't need to buy someone else's images, they can acquire the picture of my mother making out with the milkman if they want to...
Maybe the problem of exclussion that some geeks suffer every day in highschool is just a reflection of the society we live in. Knowledge is valueless for most people. If we ask 1000 persons:
"Is the end of the world: name 100 personalities you would save to rebuild our world" I bet my balls that 90% of the list will be basketball players, and hollywood stars. PATETIC
In a world were a 500 pages book is $5 and a cheap entretainment world magazine is about $3 what can we expect.
In a world Where the weight of your success is not meassured in creation but in money.
The same society that scandalizes about bulimia and anorexia, and at the same time wants more and more skinny models.
I been always sure: The problem is not us...
This could lead to a new product!!! Imagine it's marketing potencial!!!
The one and only, MULTIMEDIA FRIDGE!!!
Yes, you can work and have cold soda, sandwichs, yesterday's pizza and beer, at the reach of your hand!
John Sniffpal, a cab driver at NYC, crashed last month in his $2500 Ford cab. Incredibly, Sniffpal had charges for not giving the right exchange to passengers and for illegall possesion of one WD40 can that were not CFC free. That proves that all cab drivers are in the useless junk group, aside with pro sprot players and programmers.
This proves that politicians, church members and military forces are the only clean people in the country.
I find great that the russian gvt put some money on R&D. Today this kind of investment is only done in specific countries in the world. Let's face it, the time it gets an investor to learn where the hell is Malasia is too long, so when he knows Malasia he won't put money in Uruguay, even if there's a project there that will succed. Anyway investors usually don't understand what they are investing in anyway...
Many countries receive money from the World Bank or similar institutions and burn it.
Industry needs to sell something!
All those big money made at NASDAQ needs to be put in something investors (Idiots in suit) feels like the cutting edge of tech. So anything that combines this words would do it fine in pushing company XXX stock's up:
-Internet
-Computer
-Web
-Miniature
-Network
-$399,99
So now, invent your prefered appliance and patent it, then go to some tech company and became rich. As simple as that...
VM are old. A VM letting a OS run in top of another OS is not a new idea. So...What's new?
I have to say that it's nice to see it running, but let's call things by it's name.
I'm waiting for the BeOS version...should I sit down?
"Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong"
Oscar Wilde
The Ed's Formmula to Transaction Cost (TC):
TC = ((Setup Time+Avalable Applications) * (Development Program * Pi * Usage Risk^2)
The Ed's Formmula to Integration (I):
I = ((Number of Icons in the Desktop)^2) * (4 * (Excel Bars + Word Documents))
The Ed's Formmula to Software Quality (SQ):
SQ = (Salary for coders + Salary for developers) * (test labs quantity)^2 * (Cost of the labs)
The Ed's Formmula to Linux Users (LU):
LU = (Population in the world) - (Population in the world) + 100
The Ed's constatant for what people wants (PW):
PW = What we want them to want.
It's SO EASY TO MAKE FUN OF THIS GUY THAT MAKES ME FELL SORRY FOR HIM
I See...Problems! Problems Related to anything but computers. It's funny to watch those people acting if it is the end of the world...Well, they are the CIA, they make their living with things like this...
Interesting Article, is nice to hear what this kind of people thinks, people that really made something big for all of us...
But maybe Dennis missed a point. Unix broke in several branches of development that really hurted it's potential. But those things happened because of Big companies playing with the good 'ol Unix. Linux in the other hand, by now, is not ruled by economic interests but by excellence and the pride of the people who develops it. And it's path is free of Big Companies with marketing schedules, promises or stock prices...
When you let people create freely, you can expect only the best...
I'm tired of hearing this stupid stories about great new copy protection systems. I've been hearing them for the last...12 years?. Piracy will exist forever.
I think Corel is not stupid, they made some money and they are re-estructurating their activities. Less resources on NetWinder means more on software, their primary line of work. We can expect a cheaper netwinder, and a more competitive Corel. Looks like a smart move to me.