Well it's not like he turned himself in. He was arrested on these charges -- which means the investigation has already taken place (for the last ten years actually).
Isn't this WAY off topic anyway?
I'd really like to read your comment but what little of it is not in parenthesis is also not formatted at all and I just get lost in the words. From what I managed to read, I think I agree with you though.
I'm guessing you forgot to click "plain old text"...?
That number continues to rise as more and more players who aren't addicted are dropping the game due to boredom.
(therefore the ratio of addicted to non-addicted increases)
I still don't understand why all this focus is on WoW when these games and this so-called "addiction" have been around for 10 years and WoW isn't even 2 yet. What about UO? EQ1? Or even in the non-mmo genres... what about the battlefield series? Diablo I/II?
I think with any non-necessary product such as video games the objective is to appeal to the liesure of the potential consumer so that they will continue to buy/subscribe to your product. Are we "Addicted" to fast food? Are we "Addicted" to lay-z-boys? Are we "addicted" to movies? sports?
There's a difference between addictions and hobbies.
Why is it that they are citing WoW for subscription gameplay? Nearly 10 years ago, Origin released Ultima Online which was a pioneer in such services. Not to mention Everquest which vastly popularized the process.
Game companies are going to console because it is far more standardized, easier to support, CHEAPER and easier to USE that PCs. Not to mention, most of the PC games being released nowadays are terrible. They are not engaging and if you're lucky you'll get one with good graphics at least... but not always.
Besides, were't we blaming WoW last month for the decline in PC game purchases? Now we're thanking them?
Well, it's not the entire suit that stiffens, just the area local to the impact.
This armor coating is intended to protect you from being penetrated by a bullet but chances are even if you're wearing this, if you get hit (in the chest for instance) you're going to have the wind knocked out of you and be vulnerable to more attacks anyway. That's why the military doesn't send people out to fight alone, they have others with them to protect them until they can re-arm themselves.
You're totally right. I've picked up five or six new games this year so far as well as expansions for other games. Dawn of War & expansion, Auto Assault, Blazing Angels, Civ 4... the list goes on. The whole time I've had an EQ2 account and I've spent far more time there than on these other games. It's cheaper and easier for me to pay $15/mo to keep playing a game I already own rather than $50/mo for a new game, which I don't even play for the whole month anyway.
In other words, I agree with you. The newer games out there just don't have any replay value, and that's IF they have any play value in the first place! They certainly aren't worth $50 for the most part.
By the way, yes, my wife and I play WAY too many video games. At least we do it together!
Well, I don't know where folks get off expecting a store not to try and make money. Here's how it works:
#1 As the parent stated, not all recipients of the rebate form will actually do the work to apply for the rebate. #2 Those that do, are not paid for 6-8 weeks. That is 2 months of interest accruing on that money for the retailer. #3 The rebates also are a way to collect information on customers, so that the company who backs the rebate can then target their advertising more efficiently. #4 Rebates allow the manufacturer of a product to apply a discount without having to change their contract with the retailer. #5 Rebates often times are in response to a combined purchase of a mix of products that fit well together, but are from different companies. This relates to #4 where you as a retailer would not want to take this hit yourself because you don't really care what combination you sell.
They aren't a scam at all, in fact I've never sent one in (with the correct information) and not received a check for the amount advertised. I don't like them, personally, so I just ignore the "after rebate" price. If I can find the "no-rebate" price cheaper elsewhere, I get it there. Otherwise, I buy it and send in the rebate. 2 months later it's like I have a little Christmas present in the mail.
This *is* nice. It's good to see MS take a step towards a better community. This kind of activity should be encouraged so that they will continue to work in the right direction!
Shame on the majority of slashdot readers. The parent to this is literally the ONLY positive comment shown with score 1. You've been bitching about MS not doing anything for the community for YEARS and now that they are trying to do something, you're ripping into them over it.
Thank you for having enough insight to say "Wow, people aren't using this because it's somewhat difficult to use" and actually think about a solution, rather that bitching about the problem.
I agree with you. If you want linux to be mainstream, you have to make its usage practically mindless. Right now, using linux forces you to inconvenience yourself either by spending time (sometimes a LOT) trying to get things working, by having a bundle of applications on your desk that you want to use but simply wont run on linux, or by just not understanding the subtle differences in the interface.
You have to consider that there are roughly 300 million people in the US alone and a huge portion of them have NEVER USED linux, and possibly never even heard of it. They have been using windows if they have been using computers at all. You have to find some way to introduce these users by letting them wade in through the shallow end, you can't just expect them to dive in then insult them when they jump out because they don't know how to swim.
There are a lot of things that most day to day users want to do but it's not obvious how to do them in linux.
I should also point out that a lot of the arguments against this article are similar to "This guy was using a sony vaio, of course it doesn't work, that was made for windows".... Think about that. You want people to switch OSes but you want them to go to an OS that doesn't support most of the hardware these people already have? You can't expect people to switch if they have to replace their entire machine, or even a major component, to support it.
Sorry if this is redundant or feels like a flame, it's just I am glad that the parent was smart enough to point this out and felt like I needed to rally to him. Many Slashdot readers are jaded by the support that the anti-MS crowd gets here and they neglect to see things from a fairly obvious point of view, and it's very annoying to the rest of us.
Let's think about this for a second. What if Microsoft had included google as the primary search provider in IE7?
Now you would have a case stating that MS is trying to make money by marketing a product that boasts of google's search engine without their authority.
So, instead, they decided they might as well use THEIR OWN software to advertise and otherwise promote THEIR products. Imagine that -- have you ever seen a Comcast commercial while watching TV provided by Comcast? Hell, have you ever gotten an advertisement in the same envelope as your cell phone bill?
The arguments here are saying that when nextel sends me a bill, I should have the option to get an ad for cingular...?
It's easy to twist words to fit your argument, but how about using a little common sense here.
While you have a point, keep in mind that in this particular case Apple is not trying to fire anyone, but instead has decided to sue. Even stranger is that they aren't going after the entity, but the individuals!
I personally haven't heard of a lot of cases where someone has sued over simple breach of a confidentiality agreement. Then again, I don't follow the courts much, I'm not a big fan of all the BS lawsuits we have to put up with here in the US.
By Deliberatley did you mean Deliberately? http://www.answers.com/deliberately&r=67
I'm not sure you should be making an argument against their spelling when you yourself can't spell.
Wow, you pick out the tiniest thing from the entire post and your conclusion is "Fucktard"... Seriously, the reference is that the end user is not suffering a loss of usability, nor a financial loss. They will simply endure a minor inconvenience.
Grow up a little and get over yourself, bud. Let the adults talk.
So you would willingly maintain a site so that the majority of internet users would not be able to use it?
Face it, if you want the traffic, you are a slave to the majority. The majority uses IE, so you damn well better support it unless you want to lose traffic. There are very few users who will change browsers simply so they can view your site properly. Most of the users will say "Wow this guy doesn't know how to make a website" when they see all your stuff not working.
Go ahead, "stick it to the man" and see who ends up in the most pain.
Those developers who are maintaining ActiveX advertisements will jump right on this change and fix their code. They are making money and I'm quite certain they don't want to stop. The users will continue using IE because it's available, it's easy to use and to get to, it doesn't require ANY prior knowledge to use except perhaps how to use a mouse. I don't care what you say is more secure any more than a normal user does. In fact, when most users have a problem with their computer they take it back to the store where they bought it and blame them. Trust me, I worked at one of those stores taking care of these problems for five years.
By trying to get people to switch browsers by dragging the other one's name through the mud, you are doing nothing but building contempt within the community. Compare this to the "mud-slinging" ad campaigns of presidential candidates. Nobody likes those ad campaigns and all they do is build a bigger wall between the people making the decisions.
Do you want to be the one saying "Vote for me because you shouldn't vote for the other guy" or do you want to be the one saying "Here's why you should vote for me." Sell what you believe in, but don't try to "un-sell" the competitors. It's a waste of your time and it brings the overall atmosphere down into a very negative place.
You are absolutely right, the corporation I work for uses a similar approach and it works very well for us since we have roughly 30 locations worldwide and there are multiple projects that span more than one of those locations. You can't use the "voice over voice" mentioned in an earlier reply to walk up to somebody in australia and talk about an issue. Not only are they half a world away, but their work hours are exactly the opposite of yours.
Having something that is extremely intuitive (like opening the document and having the info already in front of you) is very important as well especially when you have hundreds of employees at any given location who are certainly NOT IT professionals, but need to use the software. You don't want to spend weeks or months showing them how to use it, you want to be able to assume they know how to use a computer and you want your software to be easy enough that training is a moot question.
It always amazes me how if OpenOffice or the like has to delay their releases to fix bugs, they are literally applauded... but when it's MS that is trying to get it right, instantly they have everyone pissed at them.
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Republicans in Nixon's time would be considered liberal or "democratic" in today's society.
Well it's not like he turned himself in. He was arrested on these charges -- which means the investigation has already taken place (for the last ten years actually). Isn't this WAY off topic anyway?
I should point out that the guy actually confessed...
I'd really like to read your comment but what little of it is not in parenthesis is also not formatted at all and I just get lost in the words. From what I managed to read, I think I agree with you though.
I'm guessing you forgot to click "plain old text"...?
That number continues to rise as more and more players who aren't addicted are dropping the game due to boredom. (therefore the ratio of addicted to non-addicted increases) I still don't understand why all this focus is on WoW when these games and this so-called "addiction" have been around for 10 years and WoW isn't even 2 yet. What about UO? EQ1? Or even in the non-mmo genres... what about the battlefield series? Diablo I/II? I think with any non-necessary product such as video games the objective is to appeal to the liesure of the potential consumer so that they will continue to buy/subscribe to your product. Are we "Addicted" to fast food? Are we "Addicted" to lay-z-boys? Are we "addicted" to movies? sports? There's a difference between addictions and hobbies.
Yeah, I remember those from April 1st too.
Why is it that they are citing WoW for subscription gameplay? Nearly 10 years ago, Origin released Ultima Online which was a pioneer in such services. Not to mention Everquest which vastly popularized the process.
Game companies are going to console because it is far more standardized, easier to support, CHEAPER and easier to USE that PCs. Not to mention, most of the PC games being released nowadays are terrible. They are not engaging and if you're lucky you'll get one with good graphics at least... but not always.
Besides, were't we blaming WoW last month for the decline in PC game purchases? Now we're thanking them?
Well, it's not the entire suit that stiffens, just the area local to the impact. This armor coating is intended to protect you from being penetrated by a bullet but chances are even if you're wearing this, if you get hit (in the chest for instance) you're going to have the wind knocked out of you and be vulnerable to more attacks anyway. That's why the military doesn't send people out to fight alone, they have others with them to protect them until they can re-arm themselves.
You're totally right. I've picked up five or six new games this year so far as well as expansions for other games. Dawn of War & expansion, Auto Assault, Blazing Angels, Civ 4... the list goes on. The whole time I've had an EQ2 account and I've spent far more time there than on these other games. It's cheaper and easier for me to pay $15/mo to keep playing a game I already own rather than $50/mo for a new game, which I don't even play for the whole month anyway. In other words, I agree with you. The newer games out there just don't have any replay value, and that's IF they have any play value in the first place! They certainly aren't worth $50 for the most part. By the way, yes, my wife and I play WAY too many video games. At least we do it together!
Wow, I really thought I'd be the only one on the planet to say something. Funny how even media editors can't figure out how to spell.
Well, I don't know where folks get off expecting a store not to try and make money. Here's how it works:
#1 As the parent stated, not all recipients of the rebate form will actually do the work to apply for the rebate.
#2 Those that do, are not paid for 6-8 weeks. That is 2 months of interest accruing on that money for the retailer.
#3 The rebates also are a way to collect information on customers, so that the company who backs the rebate can then target their advertising more efficiently.
#4 Rebates allow the manufacturer of a product to apply a discount without having to change their contract with the retailer.
#5 Rebates often times are in response to a combined purchase of a mix of products that fit well together, but are from different companies. This relates to #4 where you as a retailer would not want to take this hit yourself because you don't really care what combination you sell.
They aren't a scam at all, in fact I've never sent one in (with the correct information) and not received a check for the amount advertised. I don't like them, personally, so I just ignore the "after rebate" price. If I can find the "no-rebate" price cheaper elsewhere, I get it there. Otherwise, I buy it and send in the rebate. 2 months later it's like I have a little Christmas present in the mail.
"Pretty much anything the editors do here, some bozo is gonna complain."
Sounds like the editors have a lot in common with Microsoft...
How is that simpler than just using what will come with office 2k7?
He says it helps to *have* boobs, not to *be* boobs.
This *is* nice. It's good to see MS take a step towards a better community. This kind of activity should be encouraged so that they will continue to work in the right direction!
Shame on the majority of slashdot readers. The parent to this is literally the ONLY positive comment shown with score 1. You've been bitching about MS not doing anything for the community for YEARS and now that they are trying to do something, you're ripping into them over it.
Well, to be fair, they aren't in the business to make *less* money...
Thank you for having enough insight to say "Wow, people aren't using this because it's somewhat difficult to use" and actually think about a solution, rather that bitching about the problem.
.... Think about that. You want people to switch OSes but you want them to go to an OS that doesn't support most of the hardware these people already have? You can't expect people to switch if they have to replace their entire machine, or even a major component, to support it.
I agree with you. If you want linux to be mainstream, you have to make its usage practically mindless. Right now, using linux forces you to inconvenience yourself either by spending time (sometimes a LOT) trying to get things working, by having a bundle of applications on your desk that you want to use but simply wont run on linux, or by just not understanding the subtle differences in the interface.
You have to consider that there are roughly 300 million people in the US alone and a huge portion of them have NEVER USED linux, and possibly never even heard of it. They have been using windows if they have been using computers at all. You have to find some way to introduce these users by letting them wade in through the shallow end, you can't just expect them to dive in then insult them when they jump out because they don't know how to swim.
There are a lot of things that most day to day users want to do but it's not obvious how to do them in linux.
I should also point out that a lot of the arguments against this article are similar to "This guy was using a sony vaio, of course it doesn't work, that was made for windows"
Sorry if this is redundant or feels like a flame, it's just I am glad that the parent was smart enough to point this out and felt like I needed to rally to him. Many Slashdot readers are jaded by the support that the anti-MS crowd gets here and they neglect to see things from a fairly obvious point of view, and it's very annoying to the rest of us.
Let's think about this for a second. What if Microsoft had included google as the primary search provider in IE7?
Now you would have a case stating that MS is trying to make money by marketing a product that boasts of google's search engine without their authority.
So, instead, they decided they might as well use THEIR OWN software to advertise and otherwise promote THEIR products. Imagine that -- have you ever seen a Comcast commercial while watching TV provided by Comcast? Hell, have you ever gotten an advertisement in the same envelope as your cell phone bill?
The arguments here are saying that when nextel sends me a bill, I should have the option to get an ad for cingular...?
It's easy to twist words to fit your argument, but how about using a little common sense here.
Microsoft is promoting Microsoft's products.
'Nuff said.
While you have a point, keep in mind that in this particular case Apple is not trying to fire anyone, but instead has decided to sue. Even stranger is that they aren't going after the entity, but the individuals!
I personally haven't heard of a lot of cases where someone has sued over simple breach of a confidentiality agreement. Then again, I don't follow the courts much, I'm not a big fan of all the BS lawsuits we have to put up with here in the US.
By Deliberatley did you mean Deliberately? http://www.answers.com/deliberately&r=67 I'm not sure you should be making an argument against their spelling when you yourself can't spell.
Wow, you pick out the tiniest thing from the entire post and your conclusion is "Fucktard"... Seriously, the reference is that the end user is not suffering a loss of usability, nor a financial loss. They will simply endure a minor inconvenience. Grow up a little and get over yourself, bud. Let the adults talk.
So you would willingly maintain a site so that the majority of internet users would not be able to use it?
Face it, if you want the traffic, you are a slave to the majority. The majority uses IE, so you damn well better support it unless you want to lose traffic. There are very few users who will change browsers simply so they can view your site properly. Most of the users will say "Wow this guy doesn't know how to make a website" when they see all your stuff not working.
Go ahead, "stick it to the man" and see who ends up in the most pain.
Those developers who are maintaining ActiveX advertisements will jump right on this change and fix their code. They are making money and I'm quite certain they don't want to stop. The users will continue using IE because it's available, it's easy to use and to get to, it doesn't require ANY prior knowledge to use except perhaps how to use a mouse. I don't care what you say is more secure any more than a normal user does. In fact, when most users have a problem with their computer they take it back to the store where they bought it and blame them. Trust me, I worked at one of those stores taking care of these problems for five years.
By trying to get people to switch browsers by dragging the other one's name through the mud, you are doing nothing but building contempt within the community. Compare this to the "mud-slinging" ad campaigns of presidential candidates. Nobody likes those ad campaigns and all they do is build a bigger wall between the people making the decisions.
Do you want to be the one saying "Vote for me because you shouldn't vote for the other guy" or do you want to be the one saying "Here's why you should vote for me." Sell what you believe in, but don't try to "un-sell" the competitors. It's a waste of your time and it brings the overall atmosphere down into a very negative place.
You are absolutely right, the corporation I work for uses a similar approach and it works very well for us since we have roughly 30 locations worldwide and there are multiple projects that span more than one of those locations. You can't use the "voice over voice" mentioned in an earlier reply to walk up to somebody in australia and talk about an issue. Not only are they half a world away, but their work hours are exactly the opposite of yours.
Having something that is extremely intuitive (like opening the document and having the info already in front of you) is very important as well especially when you have hundreds of employees at any given location who are certainly NOT IT professionals, but need to use the software. You don't want to spend weeks or months showing them how to use it, you want to be able to assume they know how to use a computer and you want your software to be easy enough that training is a moot question.
It always amazes me how if OpenOffice or the like has to delay their releases to fix bugs, they are literally applauded... but when it's MS that is trying to get it right, instantly they have everyone pissed at them.
From your link: "...MTV Networks' forthcoming digital music service called URGE."
I think that pretty specifically says who is responsible for content and overall design. MS is just coding the damn thing.
You really should read the first sentence of the article you are using to attack somebody...
Wolf!