Not this case, there are many ways to kill people, none of them are humane...
Capital punishment is widely considered cruel and inhuman punishment in violation of the human rights convention.
The US and Japan is the last western countries to maintain this barbaric practice...
No, I think it's alright for companies to stand up against this issue.. Seriously, European countries have threaten local companies that they could face criminal charges if they exported drugs intended to murder people.
I'm not even sure that's so far fetched, when capital punishment is seen as a human rights violation, why shouldn't your company be held responsible for murder, if you export drugs for such purposes.
Germany has good privacy laws, and a real justice system.
As an EU member nation an extradition order could be appealed to the European Court of Human Rights.
Not that Germany will extradite her for no good reason. Particularly there is requirements as to the severity of the crime, etc.
These things are hard to prove, if you have no case. Also spy agencies aren't very popular in Germany.
Particularly not the US agencies, which have been caught spying on Germans; and it weren't that long ago CIA was murdering people in Germany.
After all, she doesn't need escape civilization, just the reach of secret courts, show trials and unconstitutional laws.
You can be fired and unofficially blacklisted. Academia can be more political than D.C.
No, we don't want administrative punishments.
What kind of banana republic do you live in...?
If there is a breach of law, it should be handled in court, or perhaps a civil settlement will do in this case...
I dislike it when people think companies or educational institutions should take the law in the their own hands, and punish students/employees for what they do in their private lives.
Sounds like the students who did this, might not have thought about all the consequences.
As for whether or not it's legal... That is hard to say, technically copyright has a lot of exceptions when it comes research and education.
That said, a court could also rule that students could do research without publishing the raw data; and that therefore privacy outweighs research and education exceptions in this particular case (because the data is particularly sensitive).
Regardless, it is not for the University to punish students for spare time activities. A University cannot acts as prosecutor, judge and jury. We have courts for that!
Hmm... Okay, nice try:)
Let's me try that too:
If the US can refuse to do business in North Korea then why should a bakery have to do business with someone they disagree with?
On topic, if as a baker you have circumstantial evidence to think the cake will be used to commit a crime, you can also refuse.
If sued for discrimination the requirement for evidence isn't the same, as in a criminal case against the cake-buyer...
Or one could argue that there is a difference between people and corporations:)
1) We're not talking censorship here, we're talking stories that facebook actively promotes as "suggestions" to people.
2) I never said all right wing political statements (there is many valid position I don't agree with, that's fine)
3) Example: "Families of terror suspects must be tortured", is that a valid political position?
For a private company to choose not to actively promote such statement seems within their discretion.
Note: we're not talking free speech, merely "active promotion", you don't have any right to have your speech promoted equally..
2. Debian is packaging a ZFS source package which will be compiled on the user's computer. this means a binary form of ZFS will not be distributed by Debian, so there is no license conflict as no binary ZFS module is distributed.
But these days we distribute VMs/AMIs, etc all the time...
3. There is no legal basis for ZFS binary module to be considered a GPL violation. That's just BS being drummed up by the FSF and SFC. Legally speaking, kernel modules are not derivatives of the kernel.
Really? Compilation is not a violation, but we're talking about distribution right?
It's my understanding that the kernel has GPL exceptions for user-space code, but not kernel modules. This is the reasoning behind the horrible nVidia, AMD install nightmares, etc...
"they are as close to illegal fraud as anything in the banking industry"
Could have saved some words and just said "they are legal".
No, there is real political effort to stop this kind of business... But it's hard...
And oh, they are most likely are illegal it's just hard to prove that their intentions are bad (Note: having bad intentions is rarely legal).
But really, this comes down to you not electing politicians who is willing to work on fixing (A) the political system, or (B) all of these types of "crimes" where regulatory and enforcement agencies don't have enough proof to shut them down.
Good thing is that US geopolitically is as good as ever. Europe as usual is in trouble...
Please elaborate? There is UK voting on EU membership (ironically the politicians there is probably learning the same lesson as the GOP: don't produce fear mongering using opinions you don't really share)...
Then there is some ongoing financial trouble in Greece... Economic growth isn't completely back yet (but that the same case for 99% of the Americans).
But these are likely solved given time and luck, things are definitely being addressed.
The whole refugee crisis, is not a crisis, just an under-investment in refuges... The European countries can fix that anytime. It's mostly a superficial issue, not actual trouble in any sense.
Clinton just got handed the White House. Game over.....
Well, the question is if it enough people are going to vote?
With the poor voter turnout in the US, anything could happen... The sane people might be too ignorant to actually vote.
It's not a given that Trump won't win. Because Americans don't care. So anything could happen.
Yeah, I'm sure they don't work in other countries, that must be it...
I'm mean nobody works hard in India, that's why they have 66% voter turnout..
And in Denmark (where I'm from) people obviously don't work either, otherwise +80% of them wouldn't have time to vote.
I wonder how they keep financing those social services that ensures nobody has to work...
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I'm sorry to say this, but when only ~11% shows up for democratic primaries, then don't say you care... And don't come crying when President Trump accidentally nukes Alaska because Palin sucks at geography (he he, could almost happen).
No, not really... Because if it's not convenient then people are going to have stupid passwords, and they are going to write the passwords down in a text file and sync it over dropbox:)
Humans are the worst security risk... If you can't eliminate the humans, your best bet is to make it as convenient as possible for them.
We all know how to send emails safely with GPG, but unless it's very very secret we never do this, because it's inconvenient.
The best thing we can do for security is making it convenient and to do the right thing..
In the end, it's not the zero day software issues that's going to get you... Most of the time, it's those pesky humans that will make a mistake:)
When talking security of systems I'm building, I always enjoy joking about how I am the biggest security threat, he he... If only I was joking.
SAML is so overly complicated it crazy... Of course it's full of security issues like this... Give it a few years and someone might finally do a simple spec...
Perhaps if they studied Islam a little more, they'd realize blowing shit up does not constitute religious devotion.
Yeah I would like to think that too... But the summary probably does stats wrong...
Compare the number of people who study science to the number of people who study religion. There are probably a lot fewer people who study religion at an accredited institution.
All this "disrupt the process" behaviour is ridiculous.
Yeah, when I observe American politics this is what is broken, at every level, repeatedly...
The absolute inability of Americans to admit defeat in politics and then move on.. Instead you disrupt, derail and set fire to the process.
This is nothing new, it's been going on more extreme than ever throughout Obama's presidency... (I doubt he is to blame though).
And yet, the American voter is to blame for this, you've repeatedly voted for extremists this is what you get.
Many of the people flying in and out of the US aren't citizens... I'm not, and they already have my fingerprints (taken every time I enter)...Open it to schengen member nations, lower fees and drop in-person interview. That would make sense...
Contact to family is important for prisoners, because reducing contact increases risk of ending up in prison again (this is a well documented fact)
Prison administrators, state governments, all have interest in increasing prisons contact with family, why they allow this is beyond my imagination.
Companies offering phone services really ought to not exploit prisoners who don't have any choices (it's simply plain evil - particularly when considering the risk they put those prisoners at).
Why the FCC needs to be involved is beyond my understanding. Are all the prison administrators really that corrupt?
This has all the ear-marks of an elaborate false-flag operation being run by a virulent anti-gunner. Who is behind the petition? Why do they not step forward?
Lol, the absurdity of the arguments from the pro-gun lobby (the NRA and the open carry movement) is bad how can you tell them apart from sarcasm in the first place?
I'm quiet serious, you take the NRA talking points feed them to comedian and you have great sarcastic comedy show..
Seriously, the whole open carry movement is absurd, they are presenting the arguments for why guns shouldn't be allowed.
To be honest if it was my country and I was arguing for stronger gun regulation, bringing assault rifles to fast food restaurants is exactly how I would argue my case:)
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Not this case, there are many ways to kill people, none of them are humane...
Capital punishment is widely considered cruel and inhuman punishment in violation of the human rights convention.
The US and Japan is the last western countries to maintain this barbaric practice...
No, I think it's alright for companies to stand up against this issue.. Seriously, European countries have threaten local companies that they could face criminal charges if they exported drugs intended to murder people.
I'm not even sure that's so far fetched, when capital punishment is seen as a human rights violation, why shouldn't your company be held responsible for murder, if you export drugs for such purposes.
Germany has good privacy laws, and a real justice system.
As an EU member nation an extradition order could be appealed to the European Court of Human Rights.
Not that Germany will extradite her for no good reason. Particularly there is requirements as to the severity of the crime, etc.
These things are hard to prove, if you have no case. Also spy agencies aren't very popular in Germany.
Particularly not the US agencies, which have been caught spying on Germans; and it weren't that long ago CIA was murdering people in Germany.
After all, she doesn't need escape civilization, just the reach of secret courts, show trials and unconstitutional laws.
You can be fired and unofficially blacklisted. Academia can be more political than D.C.
No, we don't want administrative punishments.
What kind of banana republic do you live in...?
If there is a breach of law, it should be handled in court, or perhaps a civil settlement will do in this case...
I dislike it when people think companies or educational institutions should take the law in the their own hands, and punish students/employees for what they do in their private lives.
Sounds like the students who did this, might not have thought about all the consequences.
As for whether or not it's legal... That is hard to say, technically copyright has a lot of exceptions when it comes research and education.
That said, a court could also rule that students could do research without publishing the raw data; and that therefore privacy outweighs research and education exceptions in this particular case (because the data is particularly sensitive).
Regardless, it is not for the University to punish students for spare time activities. A University cannot acts as prosecutor, judge and jury. We have courts for that!
Hmm... Okay, nice try :)
:)
Let's me try that too:
If the US can refuse to do business in North Korea then why should a bakery have to do business with someone they disagree with?
On topic, if as a baker you have circumstantial evidence to think the cake will be used to commit a crime, you can also refuse.
If sued for discrimination the requirement for evidence isn't the same, as in a criminal case against the cake-buyer...
Or one could argue that there is a difference between people and corporations
I work in Brussel. I see military on the streetcorners.
Yeah, seems like fear-mongering is a bigger issue that terrorism..
1) We're not talking censorship here, we're talking stories that facebook actively promotes as "suggestions" to people.
2) I never said all right wing political statements (there is many valid position I don't agree with, that's fine)
3) Example: "Families of terror suspects must be tortured", is that a valid political position?
For a private company to choose not to actively promote such statement seems within their discretion.
Note: we're not talking free speech, merely "active promotion", you don't have any right to have your speech promoted equally..
2. Debian is packaging a ZFS source package which will be compiled on the user's computer. this means a binary form of ZFS will not be distributed by Debian, so there is no license conflict as no binary ZFS module is distributed.
But these days we distribute VMs/AMIs, etc all the time...
3. There is no legal basis for ZFS binary module to be considered a GPL violation. That's just BS being drummed up by the FSF and SFC. Legally speaking, kernel modules are not derivatives of the kernel.
Really? Compilation is not a violation, but we're talking about distribution right?
It's my understanding that the kernel has GPL exceptions for user-space code, but not kernel modules. This is the reasoning behind the horrible nVidia, AMD install nightmares, etc...
Being fair doesn't necessarily mean that one has to relay hateful speech.
Many companies won't promote such remarks...
And let's be honest, right wing politicians have been putting out a lot hateful speech. Not every political statement deserves respect.
"they are as close to illegal fraud as anything in the banking industry"
Could have saved some words and just said "they are legal".
No, there is real political effort to stop this kind of business... But it's hard...
And oh, they are most likely are illegal it's just hard to prove that their intentions are bad (Note: having bad intentions is rarely legal).
But really, this comes down to you not electing politicians who is willing to work on fixing (A) the political system, or (B) all of these types of "crimes" where regulatory and enforcement agencies don't have enough proof to shut them down.
Thing is, here in San Francisco, Taxis are doing rather well, despite all the publicity to the contrary.
I live in too SF and the cabs are still dirty..
Dem voters staying home because they think they have it in the bag
Yeah, voter turnout is going to decide this... Trump really could win. That's scary.
Good thing is that US geopolitically is as good as ever. Europe as usual is in trouble...
Please elaborate? There is UK voting on EU membership (ironically the politicians there is probably learning the same lesson as the GOP: don't produce fear mongering using opinions you don't really share)...
Then there is some ongoing financial trouble in Greece... Economic growth isn't completely back yet (but that the same case for 99% of the Americans).
But these are likely solved given time and luck, things are definitely being addressed.
The whole refugee crisis, is not a crisis, just an under-investment in refuges... The European countries can fix that anytime. It's mostly a superficial issue, not actual trouble in any sense.
So I'm curious how do you see a Europe in crisis?
Clinton just got handed the White House. Game over.....
Well, the question is if it enough people are going to vote?
With the poor voter turnout in the US, anything could happen... The sane people might be too ignorant to actually vote.
It's not a given that Trump won't win. Because Americans don't care. So anything could happen.
Or is it that Americans work and elections and being an informed voter is hard work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Yeah, I'm sure they don't work in other countries, that must be it... I'm mean nobody works hard in India, that's why they have 66% voter turnout..
And in Denmark (where I'm from) people obviously don't work either, otherwise +80% of them wouldn't have time to vote.
I wonder how they keep financing those social services that ensures nobody has to work...
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I'm sorry to say this, but when only ~11% shows up for democratic primaries, then don't say you care... And don't come crying when President Trump accidentally nukes Alaska because Palin sucks at geography (he he, could almost happen).
Convenience and security are always opposed.
No, not really... Because if it's not convenient then people are going to have stupid passwords, and they are going to write the passwords down in a text file and sync it over dropbox :)
:)
Humans are the worst security risk... If you can't eliminate the humans, your best bet is to make it as convenient as possible for them.
We all know how to send emails safely with GPG, but unless it's very very secret we never do this, because it's inconvenient.
The best thing we can do for security is making it convenient and to do the right thing..
In the end, it's not the zero day software issues that's going to get you... Most of the time, it's those pesky humans that will make a mistake
When talking security of systems I'm building, I always enjoy joking about how I am the biggest security threat, he he... If only I was joking.
SAML is so overly complicated it crazy... Of course it's full of security issues like this... Give it a few years and someone might finally do a simple spec...
Debbie Wasserman-Schulz said straight out the super delegates were put in place to ensure party insiders would win against grassroots candidates.
With only ~11% voter turnout in primaries it's because you don't care... A few super delegates, etc, makes no difference... Americans just don't care.
And as long as you care, nobody and I mean nobody can help you.
I live in San Francisco, and the homeless problem isn't unsolvable, it's just that Americans don't care about people dying on the streets.
Perhaps if they studied Islam a little more, they'd realize blowing shit up does not constitute religious devotion.
Yeah I would like to think that too... But the summary probably does stats wrong...
Compare the number of people who study science to the number of people who study religion. There are probably a lot fewer people who study religion at an accredited institution.
All this "disrupt the process" behaviour is ridiculous.
Yeah, when I observe American politics this is what is broken, at every level, repeatedly...
The absolute inability of Americans to admit defeat in politics and then move on.. Instead you disrupt, derail and set fire to the process.
This is nothing new, it's been going on more extreme than ever throughout Obama's presidency... (I doubt he is to blame though).
And yet, the American voter is to blame for this, you've repeatedly voted for extremists this is what you get.
Spot on... It's so wrong in so many ways..
And still it's only open to citizens...
Many of the people flying in and out of the US aren't citizens... I'm not, and they already have my fingerprints (taken every time I enter)...Open it to schengen member nations, lower fees and drop in-person interview. That would make sense...
Contact to family is important for prisoners, because reducing contact increases risk of ending up in prison again (this is a well documented fact)
Prison administrators, state governments, all have interest in increasing prisons contact with family, why they allow this is beyond my imagination.
Companies offering phone services really ought to not exploit prisoners who don't have any choices (it's simply plain evil - particularly when considering the risk they put those prisoners at).
Why the FCC needs to be involved is beyond my understanding. Are all the prison administrators really that corrupt?
a lot of people bringing firearms to a large public gathering is a very bad idea in general.
And yet, isn't this is exactly what the GOP and the gun lobby argues with the removal of safe zones and further normalization of open carry?
No doubt it's a bad idea... but no worse that guns at schools, supermarkets, fastfood restaurants, etc.
This has all the ear-marks of an elaborate false-flag operation being run by a virulent anti-gunner. Who is behind the petition? Why do they not step forward?
Lol, the absurdity of the arguments from the pro-gun lobby (the NRA and the open carry movement) is bad how can you tell them apart from sarcasm in the first place?
:)
I'm quiet serious, you take the NRA talking points feed them to comedian and you have great sarcastic comedy show..
Seriously, the whole open carry movement is absurd, they are presenting the arguments for why guns shouldn't be allowed.
To be honest if it was my country and I was arguing for stronger gun regulation, bringing assault rifles to fast food restaurants is exactly how I would argue my case