I didn't know AMD could do that, as I run Windows and under Windows the two cores speed up and slow down (several steps from 1GHz to 2.2GHz) at the same time.
But you don't want to do it anyway. If you look at the voltages to the cores, as the cores slow down, the voltage goes down too. This reduces power used and also reduces leakage (which is large at 90nm and can be large at 65nm). The problem is that both cores receive the same voltage, so you can't reduce the voltage to the one core that is slowing down unless the other one slows down too.
So you'd rather run two cores at 1.7GHz and 1.2V instead of one core at 2.4GHz and 1.4V and one core at 1GHz and 1.4V. The power usage goes down with the square of the voltage, so the former case is saving 25% more power than the latter.
Blame the marketing companies, who jumped on "viral marketing" starting with "leaners" years back. They are just taking advantage of the same naivete that phishers do and spammers do. And when people start getting burned, they also get more critical.
It's a natural response to being tricked, you begin to take fewer things on faith.
But at 65nm, the 4MB of cache on a Core 2 Duo is the same size as the 2MB of cache that was on a 90nm AMD X2 chip before they cut them (except the FX) down. Did you jump down AMD's throat then?
There's plenty of tradeoffs to be made here. I think it's ridiculous you think you know better than Intel how to best use transistors effectively. You have no knowledge of Intel's process, design rules or techniques.
Piracy is irrelevant for the majority of companies that make money from software. (Most software written is single use, business logic type custom apps).
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!! Although you definitely correct on a dollar basis, most of these custom apps are written by a relatively small number of consulting companies (esp. compared to the number of shareware/freeware authors). Thus, I think that although piracy is irrelevant for the majority of software packages, those packages are created by a minority of software companies.
Thus making your statement incorrect.
Was my lexical pick apart of your statement any more helpful to the actual point than yours of the GP?
Save and Restart is also used in Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball. You may know this game as one of the worst pieces of crap ever to come to the US from Japan.
You play though the game, making some advances. At the end of the time limit, you restart the game, keeping your accomplishments (which in this game consists of buying jewelry and bathing suits for your stable of bimbos).
It makes for repetitive play, and it is rarely a good thing in a game.
I did like this style of "reset" in Majora's Mask though, so it can be used correctly I suppose.
I played the DR demo, and went to a friend's place and played the full version. It is far from my kind of game.
I use the correct version. I began doing so after having a discussion about it with my friends at age 10. Oh, it sure was heady stuff for a ten-year-old. You must be the absolute smartest ten-year-old in all of Britain to make such persuasive arguments about it.
As to me not thinking about it. I would ask again, could you explain to me how Bob is my Uncle? Surely you don't use idioms like that without thought about it?
Idioms often do not mean what their component words would make you think. That's why they are idioms.
The true irony is that some guy from the UK is lecturing on how to use English correctly, and then uses "irony" to mean something that isn't even close to ironic. In what way is an internet posting about an Alienware PC using "couldn't care less" incorrectly ironic?
Now that that's over, I can say that my guess is it got shortened to "could care less" just from people hearing it and repeating it incorrectly. In many areas, "couldn't" becomes "could'n" and the n glides into the c and nearly disappears. No one cares that it makes no sense, where is it written that idioms must make sense when deconstructed into parts? I mean, in exactly what way is Bob really my uncle?
So how can SHA-2 be secure? It has no proven collisions? I can prove it has collisions. It accepts more than 512 bits of input and only procues 512 bits of output, it must collide.
There have not been shown to be collisions for meaningful messages in SHA-1 yet. And the "break" for it requires on the order of 2^63 operations.
SHA-1 is a long way from dangerous to use at this point.
MS didn't lobby for any laws specifically relating to music.
And no law MS lobbied for in relation to computers is going to be construed as countermanding copyright law.
MS cannot top the RIAA in their own arena. If MS wants things to change, they'll have to work with the RIAA.
And your attitude is hilarious. Despite huge efforts, MS has had their butt kicked by Apple over the last 3 years. And now you think that MS is such a big dog they can topple the RIAA. Hilarious. If MS is so powerful they can do anything they want, how come they have failed with PlaysForSure so far? They didn't want it to succeed?
You remind me of the people who download the "HD" torrents of the internet and think they're seeing the real thing.
Yeah, good compression can deliver a pretty good picture. It's a stretch to get a single real HD stream over wireless today, let alone two.
As to being jealous, I think I have 100 channels each of shopping networks, audio stations, pay per view and about 50 movie channels. I get 10 HD channels just with my antenna, and if I paid for the HD pack on DVT I'd get 10 more on satellite. I suppose I could get by with only 100 channels, if I got to pick exactly the ones I wanted.
Corn used to be a lot harder and an ear was at most 3 inches long.
Do you remember those days? No? That's because they were hundreds of years ago.
Man has modified plants to fit him better ever since he started farming. If he hadn't, then man's population wouldn't be nearly what is is right now, and that means at least 90% of us wouldn't even be here. The rewards so far have been worth the risk, I don't see why we should stop now.
As far as I can tell, people are getting excited about it now because of a generalized fear of the unknown.
Not sure why people keep citing him as an innocent victim. He claimed that seed just cross-pollinated onto his land. But yet, over 90% of his crop was the Monsanto variety.
Most damning, there are receipts which show that Schmeiser was purchasing large amounts of Roundup herbicide that season and not other weed killers. No one would put Roundup on crops they didn't already know were the Monsanto strain because it would kill them within two days.
It is obvious Percy Schmeiser knew he was violating Monsanto's license. The courts ruled against him because of this evidence.
Schmeiser doesn't even pretend his crops were accidentally cross-pollinated anymore.
"I have always campaigned on the right of a farmer to save and re-use his own seed. This is what I have been doing for the last 50 years. I will continue to support any efforts to strengthen the rights of a farmer to save and re-use his own seed."
He's talking about right to re-use now, not problems of accidental cross pollination.
I'm not quite sure why people moan about this stuff. If you don't like it, don't use Monsanto's strain. If you do use it, and you use the major feature of it (that you can hose it down with Roundup with impunity), then you are reaping the rewards of Monsanto's efforts and owe them something for it if they ask (and they do).
But it isn't true. I priced the same mobos for both platforms. The AM2s aren't half price, they are $60 cheaper. These are top of the line boards, as the parent suggested, they are stable and the features work.
If you want to compare across brands, go ahead. We'll never settle that argument because you'll say that the comparisons I make aren't proper because the cheaper boards I suggest aren't stable but the cheaper ones you suggest are. I've been there before, done that argument.
I wouldn't buy an ASRock either, but there are plenty of affordable, well-working Conroe-capable motherboards out there whether the AMD fanboys see them or not.
DDR2 is already cheaper than DDR. Go price 1GB of each on newegg.
Your idea of "decent" in motherboards is crazy. You are talking a very high spec board here. These kind of boards will cost a lot, for any platform. I looked on Newegg, there are only two Conroe boards that cost over $250, and each includes a WiFi interface with built in access point! Similar boards to these for AM2 cost $200, so the difference isn't all that much anyway.
Surely they will not allow you to keep any of the music that is "shared" to you. It will expire in short order and won't be retrievable from the unit. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even let you share non-DRM music at all.
MS is not going to do anything that would make the RIAA unhappy with them.
Except the cameras weren't recalled, and Sony makes over half the CCDs used in digital cameras. And Joe Blow doesn't know Sony even made at CCD, so don't worry about Joe Blow's opinion of Sony due to this CCD stuff.
A couple failed and were replaced?
Big whup. They're only batting 99.5% now.
People don't bother to learn much about numbers and statistics, that's for sure.
The reason things are turning over slowly on eBay is because of the sellers.
A friend is going to get an imported GSM phone. He is cruising various sellers and eBay. He was jazzed on eBay because he had the perception of getting a great deal. Like maybe that phone will slip out for 2/3rds value.
But another friend said "when was the last time you got a great deal on eBay"?
And that's the problem. These people do this for a living, and everyone knows it now. When eBay was people selling junk in their garage, it went cheap and fast. Then it didn't go so cheap, but it still went fast.
Now the buyers know better than to thing everything on eBay is a steal. So they are more careful about buying.
And now, since eBay is really just like a virtual (consignment) store not a virtual auction house and everyone knows it, stuff sits on the virtual shelves longer. That's how stores work.
They are definitely not linear. Each pixel changes the most in its first 100 hours of being lit. But not in the first 100 hours of the display being lit.
Otherwise, you'd just turn the TV on with a black signal for 4 days and 4 hours, and be done, right?
Nope. You have to be careful the whole way. Showing a white screen for an extended period of time will dim all the pixels, so that any burn-in will be less obvious, but it won't eliminate it. You'll then have some pixels that are 100 hours old and some 200 hours old, instead of 0 and 100. So yeah, the difference will be smaller. But they'll still not be even.
If you think your plasma is really not burned in, get an all-solid color test image and put it up. I assure you will be able to see the difference between the area in the 4:3 area and the area outside that if you've ever viewed 4:3 content on it in proper aspect.
What's "just" mode. Do you mean stretch mode? Displaying content in the wrong aspect ratio just doesn't work for me. If you want to show a 4:3 image on a 16:9 screen properly, you need to have some kind of vertical bars on the side. White, grey, black, you're gonna have to pick something.
The pixels age rapidly in their first 100 hours of being lit. But that is on a pixel-by-pixel basis. So that means you can't just be careful in the first 100 hours of using the TV or the first 3 months or something. You just flat out have to be careful, period.
Grey bars don't fix the problem. First of all, they are ugly, second, they inevitably wear out the edges of the TV MORE than the center.
Maybe an adaptive system that measures the average burn in in the pixels at the edge of the picture area and then vary the grey (slowly) bars to match that. That might do it.
Or just get a technology that isn't so subsceptible to burn-in.
As to the technology to make the screen image move around, I first saw it on Sony plasmas 3-4 years ago. This was Sony abandoned plasma. Honestly, it sucks. If you look, you can see the image swim around.
As to black bars, they will definitely still cause burn-in. Yes, this swimming will make the edges of the burn-in fuzzy instead of sharp. But due to less use, the edges of the screen will be brighter after a few months than the center because the phosphors (are they really phosphors?) have been used less there.
A white image will not erase burn-in, but it will burn-in the whole screen a bit so you notice it less.
Plasmas are hot compared to an LCD, much more hot. This is because they use more power. Plasmas are not really any hotter than a tube, but since they are more compact (for a given screen size), the heat is concentrated and makes it seem like Plasma is hotter.
I pass a lot of plasmas in airports, and they're all very burned in. I don't know if they are using cheap panels or what.
You should look at a recent Sharp LCD. Unless you are in a pitch dark room, the LCD looks much better than any plasma. From any angle, with any image! They're fantastic. And they're available up to 65" if you're rich.
I currently own an RPLCD, so I'm more of an interested observer than a participant in any of the hang on the wall technologies. But 3 of my coworkers have bought full 1080p direct-view LCD panels lately (one a 42" for $1500!), and another bought a 1368x768 panel. I'm envious of their TVs. Some day I might have to get myself something like those.
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I didn't know AMD could do that, as I run Windows and under Windows the two cores speed up and slow down (several steps from 1GHz to 2.2GHz) at the same time.
But you don't want to do it anyway. If you look at the voltages to the cores, as the cores slow down, the voltage goes down too. This reduces power used and also reduces leakage (which is large at 90nm and can be large at 65nm). The problem is that both cores receive the same voltage, so you can't reduce the voltage to the one core that is slowing down unless the other one slows down too.
So you'd rather run two cores at 1.7GHz and 1.2V instead of one core at 2.4GHz and 1.4V and one core at 1GHz and 1.4V. The power usage goes down with the square of the voltage, so the former case is saving 25% more power than the latter.
AMD already can halt the two cores in an X2 setup independently.
This saves power, but better yet would be if you could (halt and) power down the cores independently. AMD cannot do this yet, but Intel can.
Blame the marketing companies, who jumped on "viral marketing" starting with "leaners" years back. They are just taking advantage of the same naivete that phishers do and spammers do. And when people start getting burned, they also get more critical.
It's a natural response to being tricked, you begin to take fewer things on faith.
When Israel bombed power plants in the Gaza strip a few weeks ago to turn the lights out, the US taxpayers had to pay for the damage.
Why? Because the government had underwritten insurance for the generators that were bombed because it helped American companies make the sale.
But at 65nm, the 4MB of cache on a Core 2 Duo is the same size as the 2MB of cache that was on a 90nm AMD X2 chip before they cut them (except the FX) down. Did you jump down AMD's throat then?
There's plenty of tradeoffs to be made here. I think it's ridiculous you think you know better than Intel how to best use transistors effectively. You have no knowledge of Intel's process, design rules or techniques.
Heres TFM:
s s/15393026.htm
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/busine
It contains a link "On the Web: A record of what happened." to this
http://seclists.org/politech/2003/Jul/0020.html
This indeed did happen 3 years ago.
Perhaps this event did happen yesterday, but it's difficult to get much info from the actual story that says so.
Piracy is irrelevant for the majority of companies that make money from software. (Most software written is single use, business logic type custom apps).
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!! Although you definitely correct on a dollar basis, most of these custom apps are written by a relatively small number of consulting companies (esp. compared to the number of shareware/freeware authors). Thus, I think that although piracy is irrelevant for the majority of software packages, those packages are created by a minority of software companies.
Thus making your statement incorrect.
Was my lexical pick apart of your statement any more helpful to the actual point than yours of the GP?
Save and Restart is also used in Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball. You may know this game as one of the worst pieces of crap ever to come to the US from Japan.
You play though the game, making some advances. At the end of the time limit, you restart the game, keeping your accomplishments (which in this game consists of buying jewelry and bathing suits for your stable of bimbos).
It makes for repetitive play, and it is rarely a good thing in a game.
I did like this style of "reset" in Majora's Mask though, so it can be used correctly I suppose.
I played the DR demo, and went to a friend's place and played the full version. It is far from my kind of game.
I use the correct version. I began doing so after having a discussion about it with my friends at age 10. Oh, it sure was heady stuff for a ten-year-old. You must be the absolute smartest ten-year-old in all of Britain to make such persuasive arguments about it.
As to me not thinking about it. I would ask again, could you explain to me how Bob is my Uncle? Surely you don't use idioms like that without thought about it?
Idioms often do not mean what their component words would make you think. That's why they are idioms.
I can already listen to internet radio for free. I just can't do anything with the music.
I've already got SOMA FM. I don't need Universal's channel.
The true irony is that some guy from the UK is lecturing on how to use English correctly, and then uses "irony" to mean something that isn't even close to ironic. In what way is an internet posting about an Alienware PC using "couldn't care less" incorrectly ironic?
Now that that's over, I can say that my guess is it got shortened to "could care less" just from people hearing it and repeating it incorrectly. In many areas, "couldn't" becomes "could'n" and the n glides into the c and nearly disappears. No one cares that it makes no sense, where is it written that idioms must make sense when deconstructed into parts? I mean, in exactly what way is Bob really my uncle?
It's a hash function, not an encryption.
So how can SHA-2 be secure? It has no proven collisions? I can prove it has collisions. It accepts more than 512 bits of input and only procues 512 bits of output, it must collide.
There have not been shown to be collisions for meaningful messages in SHA-1 yet. And the "break" for it requires on the order of 2^63 operations.
SHA-1 is a long way from dangerous to use at this point.
MS didn't lobby for any laws specifically relating to music.
And no law MS lobbied for in relation to computers is going to be construed as countermanding copyright law.
MS cannot top the RIAA in their own arena. If MS wants things to change, they'll have to work with the RIAA.
And your attitude is hilarious. Despite huge efforts, MS has had their butt kicked by Apple over the last 3 years. And now you think that MS is such a big dog they can topple the RIAA. Hilarious. If MS is so powerful they can do anything they want, how come they have failed with PlaysForSure so far? They didn't want it to succeed?
You remind me of the people who download the "HD" torrents of the internet and think they're seeing the real thing.
Yeah, good compression can deliver a pretty good picture. It's a stretch to get a single real HD stream over wireless today, let alone two.
As to being jealous, I think I have 100 channels each of shopping networks, audio stations, pay per view and about 50 movie channels. I get 10 HD channels just with my antenna, and if I paid for the HD pack on DVT I'd get 10 more on satellite. I suppose I could get by with only 100 channels, if I got to pick exactly the ones I wanted.
Corn used to be a lot harder and an ear was at most 3 inches long.
Do you remember those days? No? That's because they were hundreds of years ago.
Man has modified plants to fit him better ever since he started farming. If he hadn't, then man's population wouldn't be nearly what is is right now, and that means at least 90% of us wouldn't even be here. The rewards so far have been worth the risk, I don't see why we should stop now.
As far as I can tell, people are getting excited about it now because of a generalized fear of the unknown.
Not sure why people keep citing him as an innocent victim. He claimed that seed just cross-pollinated onto his land. But yet, over 90% of his crop was the Monsanto variety.
Most damning, there are receipts which show that Schmeiser was purchasing large amounts of Roundup herbicide that season and not other weed killers. No one would put Roundup on crops they didn't already know were the Monsanto strain because it would kill them within two days.
It is obvious Percy Schmeiser knew he was violating Monsanto's license. The courts ruled against him because of this evidence.
Schmeiser doesn't even pretend his crops were accidentally cross-pollinated anymore.
"I have always campaigned on the right of a farmer to save and re-use his own seed. This is what I have been doing for the last 50 years. I will continue to support any efforts to strengthen the rights of a farmer to save and re-use his own seed."
He's talking about right to re-use now, not problems of accidental cross pollination.
I'm not quite sure why people moan about this stuff. If you don't like it, don't use Monsanto's strain. If you do use it, and you use the major feature of it (that you can hose it down with Roundup with impunity), then you are reaping the rewards of Monsanto's efforts and owe them something for it if they ask (and they do).
But it isn't true. I priced the same mobos for both platforms. The AM2s aren't half price, they are $60 cheaper. These are top of the line boards, as the parent suggested, they are stable and the features work.
If you want to compare across brands, go ahead. We'll never settle that argument because you'll say that the comparisons I make aren't proper because the cheaper boards I suggest aren't stable but the cheaper ones you suggest are. I've been there before, done that argument.
I wouldn't buy an ASRock either, but there are plenty of affordable, well-working Conroe-capable motherboards out there whether the AMD fanboys see them or not.
DDR2 is already cheaper than DDR. Go price 1GB of each on newegg.
Your idea of "decent" in motherboards is crazy. You are talking a very high spec board here. These kind of boards will cost a lot, for any platform. I looked on Newegg, there are only two Conroe boards that cost over $250, and each includes a WiFi interface with built in access point! Similar boards to these for AM2 cost $200, so the difference isn't all that much anyway.
MS' DRM allows you to have time-expiring content.
Surely they will not allow you to keep any of the music that is "shared" to you. It will expire in short order and won't be retrievable from the unit. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even let you share non-DRM music at all.
MS is not going to do anything that would make the RIAA unhappy with them.
If you used compression and no XML, it'd be even smaller than the compressed XML.
Except the cameras weren't recalled, and Sony makes over half the CCDs used in digital cameras. And Joe Blow doesn't know Sony even made at CCD, so don't worry about Joe Blow's opinion of Sony due to this CCD stuff.
A couple failed and were replaced?
Big whup. They're only batting 99.5% now.
People don't bother to learn much about numbers and statistics, that's for sure.
The reason things are turning over slowly on eBay is because of the sellers.
A friend is going to get an imported GSM phone. He is cruising various sellers and eBay. He was jazzed on eBay because he had the perception of getting a great deal. Like maybe that phone will slip out for 2/3rds value.
But another friend said "when was the last time you got a great deal on eBay"?
And that's the problem. These people do this for a living, and everyone knows it now. When eBay was people selling junk in their garage, it went cheap and fast. Then it didn't go so cheap, but it still went fast.
Now the buyers know better than to thing everything on eBay is a steal. So they are more careful about buying.
And now, since eBay is really just like a virtual (consignment) store not a virtual auction house and everyone knows it, stuff sits on the virtual shelves longer. That's how stores work.
They are definitely not linear. Each pixel changes the most in its first 100 hours of being lit. But not in the first 100 hours of the display being lit.
Otherwise, you'd just turn the TV on with a black signal for 4 days and 4 hours, and be done, right?
Nope. You have to be careful the whole way. Showing a white screen for an extended period of time will dim all the pixels, so that any burn-in will be less obvious, but it won't eliminate it. You'll then have some pixels that are 100 hours old and some 200 hours old, instead of 0 and 100. So yeah, the difference will be smaller. But they'll still not be even.
If you think your plasma is really not burned in, get an all-solid color test image and put it up. I assure you will be able to see the difference between the area in the 4:3 area and the area outside that if you've ever viewed 4:3 content on it in proper aspect.
What's "just" mode. Do you mean stretch mode? Displaying content in the wrong aspect ratio just doesn't work for me. If you want to show a 4:3 image on a 16:9 screen properly, you need to have some kind of vertical bars on the side. White, grey, black, you're gonna have to pick something.
The pixels age rapidly in their first 100 hours of being lit. But that is on a pixel-by-pixel basis. So that means you can't just be careful in the first 100 hours of using the TV or the first 3 months or something. You just flat out have to be careful, period.
Grey bars don't fix the problem. First of all, they are ugly, second, they inevitably wear out the edges of the TV MORE than the center.
Maybe an adaptive system that measures the average burn in in the pixels at the edge of the picture area and then vary the grey (slowly) bars to match that. That might do it.
Or just get a technology that isn't so subsceptible to burn-in.
You got a lot of them.
As to the technology to make the screen image move around, I first saw it on Sony plasmas 3-4 years ago. This was Sony abandoned plasma. Honestly, it sucks. If you look, you can see the image swim around.
As to black bars, they will definitely still cause burn-in. Yes, this swimming will make the edges of the burn-in fuzzy instead of sharp. But due to less use, the edges of the screen will be brighter after a few months than the center because the phosphors (are they really phosphors?) have been used less there.
A white image will not erase burn-in, but it will burn-in the whole screen a bit so you notice it less.
Plasmas are hot compared to an LCD, much more hot. This is because they use more power. Plasmas are not really any hotter than a tube, but since they are more compact (for a given screen size), the heat is concentrated and makes it seem like Plasma is hotter.
I pass a lot of plasmas in airports, and they're all very burned in. I don't know if they are using cheap panels or what.
You should look at a recent Sharp LCD. Unless you are in a pitch dark room, the LCD looks much better than any plasma. From any angle, with any image! They're fantastic. And they're available up to 65" if you're rich.
I currently own an RPLCD, so I'm more of an interested observer than a participant in any of the hang on the wall technologies. But 3 of my coworkers have bought full 1080p direct-view LCD panels lately (one a 42" for $1500!), and another bought a 1368x768 panel. I'm envious of their TVs. Some day I might have to get myself something like those.