This will place most of the professionals in the network admin and computer security fields in a sort of legal grey area. 'The new rules tighten up the existing sanctions and prohibit any unauthorized user from disabling or circumventing computer security measures to access secure data (see the law, sections 200 and following [in German]).
(Emphasis Mine)
If I'm an admin, I'm probably authorized to test my own network's security. I hack and probe my server constantly to determine my own security. The real gray area is if I'm guilty simply because I possess these tools or if I'm unauthorized to do something with those tools.
It's like getting your car stolen by someone whose whole life revolves around pretending that cars don't exist.
Great post, I would equate your car analogy to more along the lines of the Amish stealing your car, not to say that the Amish are as ignorant as the (majority, not all everywhere are bad) pointy hairs but it (Amish:Cars / Management:Customer Service and taking care of their people) is just something they don't believe.
I didn't say it couldn't work in IPv6, I said I prefer the old way. Since it's on my home network and not affecting anyone else, I'll keep it that way dag nabbit!
True, but you'll have to pry it from their cold dead fingers!!!
Kind of reminds me of a Grandpa Simpson (skewed to be somewhat on topic): "I didn't earn it, I don't need it, but if they miss one [octal] I'll raise hell."
That would be nice but there are no incentives in spending less money. Government typically allocates funds to different pots of money. If your pot still has money at the end of the quarter, it gets taken away and you get less for the next quarter. If you get less the next quarter, you no longer have a cushion to fall back on in case of unexpected expenditures.
If you need to exceed the amount in your pot, layers of bureaucracy and unwanted negative attention hinder the process to get the much need extra money.
Basically, it's easier to waste all of the money than to be thrifty.
I agree, I tend not to vote, which is my way of voting for neither candidate. Although I do believe I'll start writing myself (or Cowboy Neal) in as a candidate.
I agree, it's affordable, it's fun, it does what it needs to do, and it has innovative features. Speed isn't everything, just ask a woman... oh, wait..
Clearly, the "problem" is that we, the Linux community, should be trying to "convert" the n00bs out there who don't know what apt-get is. Having WINE preinstalled would help them get over the fact that they're not running Windows, yet everything is fine, and they can do pretty much everything today they that they could when they were running Windows yesterday.
But the problem is, WINE doesn't always work like it supposed to. Sometimes it requires tweaking. In my opinion, I would rather a "n00b" learn about a native Linux application that can do what they want it to than fiddle with WINE just to get their Windows application to work.
WHAT?!?! Did you not read the post you replied to? Here's the copy in case you need to re-read it:
As soon as you say "Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get (package)", you've lost.
Have you even used Ubuntu, or any Linux distro from the last few years? In Ubuntu I open the Applications menu and find a GUI tool to install and remove software that actually can install software as advertised (contrary to the Windows version which in fact can only reinstall or remove)
Knuckles never mentioned the terminal. And, FYI, that was the point Knuckles was addressing, hence the quote from the GP about "opening a terminal". Before you bash, pull your head out of your ass.
I agree, the article seems to be covered in the stink of FUD. I don't like throwing that word at just anything (given my bias towards choice) but this statement from the image gallery pushed me to it:
Vista's Add/Remove Programs panel probably served as the inspiration for Ubuntu's software management console.
This disturbs me as the person who has written the article had not previously used Ubuntu until he/she decided to write this article. Ubuntu, I can firmly say, has been around significantly longer than Vista. Granted he/she could have said the "Windows" Add/Remove.
The section concerning Image-Editing/Picture management being a tie also seems to give more credit to Vista. The fact of having GIMP alone blows vista out of the water let alone the several picture managers available on Ubuntu.
Wikipedia articles will be sold on compact disc to give people without a net connection access to highlights of the popular web resource. The CD can be purchased or downloaded online via their site or the torrent
The no net connection / download / torrent is a gimme, but where will they offer this CD for those without net connections? I could see this being useful for libraries or schools to have solid access. Advertising it to people without a net connection seems to be pretty pointless as the only means of acquiring said CD is via an internet connection.
Either that or we'll start seeing Wikipedia salesmen going door to door.
On a side note, it's really rather funny to see that all the hatred for Microsoft on Slashdot suddenly vanish as soon as it's Microsoft vs. the EU - then suddenly, defending a fellow US-American company suddenly seems to become more important than pointing out how much Microsoft as a convicted monopolist engaged in illegal anti-competitive tactics is hurting innovation/the industry/society.
Not all of us, I'm glad someone isn't putting up with MS's crap.
So you would call them... dupes? *ducks*
If I'm an admin, I'm probably authorized to test my own network's security. I hack and probe my server constantly to determine my own security. The real gray area is if I'm guilty simply because I possess these tools or if I'm unauthorized to do something with those tools.
Poop, kripkenstein found the link so if mods could be so kind as to mod my parent comment down so that the useful stuff can float to the top, thanks!
I tried to scour the links on the crappy linked article for some lengthy, contract looking page for more details. The closest was this: http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/ 2007/05/novell_microsof_1.html
On top of that, the links on that page that go to a SEC page are broke. WTF? I did just roll out of bed but are there good links?
Great post, I would equate your car analogy to more along the lines of the Amish stealing your car, not to say that the Amish are as ignorant as the (majority, not all everywhere are bad) pointy hairs but it (Amish:Cars / Management:Customer Service and taking care of their people) is just something they don't believe.
I didn't say it couldn't work in IPv6, I said I prefer the old way. Since it's on my home network and not affecting anyone else, I'll keep it that way dag nabbit!
True, but you'll have to pry it from their cold dead fingers!!!
Kind of reminds me of a Grandpa Simpson (skewed to be somewhat on topic): "I didn't earn it, I don't need it, but if they miss one [octal] I'll raise hell."
Well duh, why do you think people got on the Internet in the first place? Some military experiment? pffffffft. It's all about the pr0n!
Are they going to fix IPv6 anytime soon?
I also love my quirks.
That would be nice but there are no incentives in spending less money. Government typically allocates funds to different pots of money. If your pot still has money at the end of the quarter, it gets taken away and you get less for the next quarter. If you get less the next quarter, you no longer have a cushion to fall back on in case of unexpected expenditures. If you need to exceed the amount in your pot, layers of bureaucracy and unwanted negative attention hinder the process to get the much need extra money. Basically, it's easier to waste all of the money than to be thrifty.
I agree, I tend not to vote, which is my way of voting for neither candidate. Although I do believe I'll start writing myself (or Cowboy Neal) in as a candidate.
Yep, it was the first and last thing to hit the ground....
ah, my bad... I don't generally log into X as root so I assumed the shell.
You know, I've written ROFLMAO before just for symbolism, but I actually fell out of my chair laughing so hard...
`sudo su` works just as well...
I agree, it's affordable, it's fun, it does what it needs to do, and it has innovative features. Speed isn't everything, just ask a woman... oh, wait..
But the problem is, WINE doesn't always work like it supposed to. Sometimes it requires tweaking. In my opinion, I would rather a "n00b" learn about a native Linux application that can do what they want it to than fiddle with WINE just to get their Windows application to work.
You must be new here... it's "You must be new here..."
I agree, but as for defacto tools, as least Ubuntu provides options. I prefer Picasa under Linux for most basic tasks anyway.
This disturbs me as the person who has written the article had not previously used Ubuntu until he/she decided to write this article. Ubuntu, I can firmly say, has been around significantly longer than Vista. Granted he/she could have said the "Windows" Add/Remove.
The section concerning Image-Editing/Picture management being a tie also seems to give more credit to Vista. The fact of having GIMP alone blows vista out of the water let alone the several picture managers available on Ubuntu.
I think rsync would work quite nicely for that setup... wiki + portage = wikage? Porki??
The no net connection / download / torrent is a gimme, but where will they offer this CD for those without net connections? I could see this being useful for libraries or schools to have solid access. Advertising it to people without a net connection seems to be pretty pointless as the only means of acquiring said CD is via an internet connection.
Either that or we'll start seeing Wikipedia salesmen going door to door.
Fragging shall now be an outdoor activity ONLY!!!
Not all of us, I'm glad someone isn't putting up with MS's crap.