The thing most people do not understand is that the respective research has been going on for > 30 years. I remember a fellow student doing their CS graduation thesis on how to get a car over a 2-lane left turn autonomously about 30 years ago. It may well take another 30 years to get there.
It is not a complete scam, but it is very tricky to interpret the results and many (most?) of the people working in the field are just not smart enough and at the same time too arrogant to see that. Dunning-Kruger effect at work. The paper you reference is by some of the few good neuroscientists. They area rare, but they exist.
News to me. Except for a small group of them, they generally do not even seem to be able to to meaningful experiments and their models seem to be extremely simplistic: https://journals.plos.org/plos...
Maybe if they made less grande declarations and did actual science instead, there would be something useful from that field. But that may still take a while.
Dead wrong. The challenges of the past were not global and quite a few civilizations managed to wipe themselves out by their stupidity throughout history. Today we do not have redundancy in this way anymore, everything is far too global.
A matter of terminology. I use "willfully ignorant" as a subset of "stupid". You are certainly correct that this is the usual form it takes.
Personally, I work on not caring too much and being a somewhat fascinated observer of this self-annihilation. Clearly I still have some way to go. Fortunately, I decided early on that I will not put children into _this_ world, so I am at least not guilty of inflicting it on somebody else.
This is about engineering products. If you think evaluating their relative merits is "subjective", then you are utterly clueless. But what can you expect from AC scum.
And alternatively, I really know what I am talking about and regard ACs as basically scum. However, I cannot see how you come to "pretentious", unless you are an authoritarian follower that things people that have a name may not be criticized. Is that it? Newton was so great, nobody is allowed to criticize him? That would be a pretty bad stance. As for "self-centered", were to you see any evidence for that?
So I got confused on a name in the history of mathematics. But this is/. and I did not look it up to make sure. It is a data point, not something that requires insight.
BTW, I do not "like" or "dislike" Newton. That is you projecting. I am of the opinion that the formalism he created for calculus is pretty bad and he did a huge disservice to a lot of people by creating and pushing it and trying to suppress better alternatives. This is something I am qualified to judge. Decidedly a negative contribution to calculus overall.
I am also wondering why you post as an AC./. has pseudonymity. Use it. If you are scared of the NSA, they can already identify anything you post, AC or not.
There is a strong indicator: Leibnitz did the same thing independently at the same time. If you factor in that the scientific community was pretty small back then, that means the prerequisites were all there, the question had been asked and it just took somebody to put it together. That makes the results a "good" scientific result, but not a "genius level" one. And I am not talking about his contributions to physics, I am talking about his contributions to calculus, see the original story.
This is a standard tactic: First lie directly, then less directly, then admit a bit, then admit the whole. The average person is stupid and will only see the small steps, not the large overall one and will accept the whole thing. Works time and again.
Be on a blacklist that makes this ineffective within 15 minutes. The ones running this operation may have absolutely no ethics, but they are not terminally stupid.
While I agree on the problem, the solution is not going to work as most people (and most children) are stupid. Just look at the decisions they make. They know that politicians are lying, yet they still vote for the one that tells the better lies. They know corporations are just after money, yet they believe the ads. They vote against their own freedom, against their economic well-being and against their future. They are driven by fear, greed, hate and arrogance, and rationality makes only very rare appearances, if at all. And the "leaders" are cut from the same cloth.
I am sorry to say this, but this installment of the human race is fucked, and it is doing all the fucking to itself. Sure, there is a minority (may 10-15%) that actually understands how things work, that can think independently, that can verify facts and that can recognize a thing for what it is. But these are far too few. It is almost as if this planet is a failed experiment as to whether this mix of independent thinkers and others works and I think we can safely say it works badly and no way to fix it that can actually be implemented is known.
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The thing most people do not understand is that the respective research has been going on for > 30 years. I remember a fellow student doing their CS graduation thesis on how to get a car over a 2-lane left turn autonomously about 30 years ago. It may well take another 30 years to get there.
And will continue to be around for a long, long time. These numbers are high enough to support a number of mainboard and component makers.
Incompetent design team. That is pretty much the only explanation, besides "management" pushing things in there against expert advice.
Dysfunctional organizations at work. No surprise.
They probably had no real security expert in the design group in the first place. After all, security is easy, right?
It is not a complete scam, but it is very tricky to interpret the results and many (most?) of the people working in the field are just not smart enough and at the same time too arrogant to see that. Dunning-Kruger effect at work. The paper you reference is by some of the few good neuroscientists. They area rare, but they exist.
Indeed.
Do you also believe the earth is flat, or are you more leaning towards an anti-vaxxer stance?
News to me. Except for a small group of them, they generally do not even seem to be able to to meaningful experiments and their models seem to be extremely simplistic: https://journals.plos.org/plos...
Maybe if they made less grande declarations and did actual science instead, there would be something useful from that field. But that may still take a while.
/. readers are generally ok. ACs, on the other hand...
I completely agree on that.
Dead wrong. The challenges of the past were not global and quite a few civilizations managed to wipe themselves out by their stupidity throughout history. Today we do not have redundancy in this way anymore, everything is far too global.
A matter of terminology. I use "willfully ignorant" as a subset of "stupid". You are certainly correct that this is the usual form it takes.
Personally, I work on not caring too much and being a somewhat fascinated observer of this self-annihilation. Clearly I still have some way to go. Fortunately, I decided early on that I will not put children into _this_ world, so I am at least not guilty of inflicting it on somebody else.
Heheheh, indeed!
This is about engineering products. If you think evaluating their relative merits is "subjective", then you are utterly clueless. But what can you expect from AC scum.
Thanks.
And alternatively, I really know what I am talking about and regard ACs as basically scum. However, I cannot see how you come to "pretentious", unless you are an authoritarian follower that things people that have a name may not be criticized. Is that it? Newton was so great, nobody is allowed to criticize him? That would be a pretty bad stance. As for "self-centered", were to you see any evidence for that?
So I got confused on a name in the history of mathematics. But this is /. and I did not look it up to make sure. It is a data point, not something that requires insight.
BTW, I do not "like" or "dislike" Newton. That is you projecting. I am of the opinion that the formalism he created for calculus is pretty bad and he did a huge disservice to a lot of people by creating and pushing it and trying to suppress better alternatives. This is something I am qualified to judge. Decidedly a negative contribution to calculus overall.
I am also wondering why you post as an AC. /. has pseudonymity. Use it. If you are scared of the NSA, they can already identify anything you post, AC or not.
There is a strong indicator: Leibnitz did the same thing independently at the same time. If you factor in that the scientific community was pretty small back then, that means the prerequisites were all there, the question had been asked and it just took somebody to put it together. That makes the results a "good" scientific result, but not a "genius level" one. And I am not talking about his contributions to physics, I am talking about his contributions to calculus, see the original story.
As to Riemann, I confused him with Leibnitz.
Did you miss what the story was about?
Would make perfect sense. What a twat.
This is a standard tactic: First lie directly, then less directly, then admit a bit, then admit the whole. The average person is stupid and will only see the small steps, not the large overall one and will accept the whole thing. Works time and again.
Nice!
How would the "hear" that? Also, people that are capable of making a WMD will not talk about it in front of a known listening device.
Be on a blacklist that makes this ineffective within 15 minutes. The ones running this operation may have absolutely no ethics, but they are not terminally stupid.
While I agree on the problem, the solution is not going to work as most people (and most children) are stupid. Just look at the decisions they make. They know that politicians are lying, yet they still vote for the one that tells the better lies. They know corporations are just after money, yet they believe the ads. They vote against their own freedom, against their economic well-being and against their future. They are driven by fear, greed, hate and arrogance, and rationality makes only very rare appearances, if at all. And the "leaders" are cut from the same cloth.
I am sorry to say this, but this installment of the human race is fucked, and it is doing all the fucking to itself. Sure, there is a minority (may 10-15%) that actually understands how things work, that can think independently, that can verify facts and that can recognize a thing for what it is. But these are far too few. It is almost as if this planet is a failed experiment as to whether this mix of independent thinkers and others works and I think we can safely say it works badly and no way to fix it that can actually be implemented is known.