Yes it would have been interesting to see the demand to be conscripted per phone to having to create gov ready software for all phones of a generation within a brand.
The gov ready master key that gave a gov worker or contractor access to any phone in a generation from any gov computer. http://nypost.com/2016/03/02/f... (March 2, 2016)
"“The request we got from the government in this case is, ‘Take this tool and put it on a hard drive, send it to the FBI,’ and they’d load it onto their computer,” "
Re "should keep quiet."
The US gov had that hidden win with PRISM and ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The cost of parallel construction was not great but the risk of a court of expert teams finally asking questions about the origins of a case was not always risk free.
Hidden cell phone tracking, voice prints and decryption get decades of easy access to start to build a public case.
The press, lawyers, tech experts in the US could slowly see that not all cases got built on informants, ex convicts, traditional undercover or "luck". Long term computer and cell phone tracking built the case or was the origin of the case without any clear public court support as to just how that case started.
Working back to make parallel construction seem to work in a public court is a risk with outside hardware costs been seen at a local government level or hardware in play (mass buying and use of stingrays, dirtboxes)
The easy way out was to conscript a company into making encryption useless and giving the US gov, its workers, contractors, ex staff, former workers and others the masterkey to a generation of cell phones. The phone then becomes the court friendly informant and legal teams can ask all they want about how a case was built.
Its two long term views, the NSA and GCHQ that hidden collect it all is the only secure long term goal, to keep interesting people trusting their decrypted cell phones, weak encryption on computers and poor quality OS's. Just never tell any court. vs
Local city, state and federal task forces view that quick, in public court wins bring budget growth, more expert staff and political glory.
The wider public is so addicted to digital technology that they cannot stop using devices that are gov ready live mics, tracking beacons, collect voice prints and are key loggers.
With a cell phone been seen as the main aspect of building a case in public court will interesting people change their digital habits?
The other option is to secure parallel construction by freezing funds to ensure nobody can ever afford to question the origins of their case.
With all funds frozen, no legal team, no real experts to trace back the paperwork, just a gov appointed lawyer that will pass on the gov deal or do their best in public court with no experts or funding.
Or just conscript a brand to provide the data to the gov on all phones and keep on selling phones.
Think back to PRISM. That worked well for both the brand and gov but could not be mentioned in court or to the press.
An entire generation of older cell phones had older tech that could be recovered per device so that covers the past legal "help" question.
The next step was for the US gov to ask for a master key that the gov could use on any phone for any reason and that the brand would have to make.
The US gov would have conscripted a computer system that they could use for generations of phones without oversight on any phone by anyone who worked with or for law enforcement. A master key in the hands of ex staff, former staff, anyone who could pay for the service.
A masterkey for any state, federal or international use. Shared at a city, state, federal and with international teams, that key could be used or sold by anyone for any reason.
Junk crypto that can be accessed on any computer to open generations of phones is very poor policy around the world.
Follow the new funding and next gen expert cyber contractors who can "track", log, chat on or enter or log ip's on the ever ending, banned "darknet".
That no bid funding and expert overtime will add up once the banning laws set in:)
Cash for the expert skills, cash for new support networks that cant be tracked back or found by anyone so sock puppets and undercover personas can thrive online over years.
The software needed to log and capture data all has to be rented or created too:) Only private sector contractors have the skills and have the past court ready experience to do that. Let the new cyber funding flow and show what amounts billable hours can reach:)
Re "You must not have lived through the Civil Rights and/or Viet Nam War protests."
That was really a good public look via the Church report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... at the US gov in action over the mass collection of data domestically and later direct domestic action to stop anti war protesters.
The Mass surveillance in the United States page does have some of the methods used listed during that time for collection and later the results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Later efforts would be MAIN CORE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and then ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Wide area collection via stingrays, dirtboxes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... just for been in a area of interest.
With todays US/UK "collect it all" domestic access via help from telcos and computer brands, everyone has an East German style database entry to 'know everything about everyone" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Even just using this site and 5 eyes https://news.slashdot.org/stor...:)
Re "Is this technically impossible? I don't know much about encryption (as may be obvious) but it seems like if we don't reach a compromise, things are going to end a lot worse with the government ultimately getting its way without any input from the industry."
As some have commented will all US paper shredder brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... have to provide expensive unshredding support via a scanner, software and be able to put the cut paper back together as a readable document on gov demand for free?
Serial numbers in printers to print a code on every page to track to origin?
What the US wants to return to is the Clipper chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... been designed into every US connected phone for free.
A US gov conscripted master key giving access to all phone data to any bureaucrat globally who worked with the US, ex staff, former staff and anyone who can hire the skills of former staff.
The US gov wanted a computer system fully under their own control to decrypt any cell phone of that generation.
In the past AC the US and 5 eye nations got that access under PRISM and a lot of other methods for access.
"Do We Need A Bigger SIGINT Truck?" note the term "phone-a-friends" https://www.eff.org/document/2...
Handles Encrypted Traffic https://www.eff.org/document/2...
VPN https://www.eff.org/document/2...
and ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... that gave access to but the US still had to cover the origins in open court.
The color of law change is all the once secure, hidden methods and tools will be for sale by contractors down at the federal and very local city/state federal task force level to use in any open court for any reason. Any level of government will have the decryption tools, even just to look and see if they feel they want to later build a case.
Why rent a system of access tools to just a few levels of the mil or federal government when a huge list of cities and states will have new funding on the table too for local courts needing digital support services?
So that US "court system" will now get to decrypt any phone sold in the USA or connected to a US phone network by conscripting the designers/software creators. A brand will have to design in junk encryption with the US gov getting a masterkey over every generation of product.
The phone can then become the origin of a case or informant in a public court thanks to a gov demanded master key to all US phones. No need to build up a wider case, the phone will tell all and no encryption sold will be allowed to keep data secure for any reason.
The tool sets will collect voice prints, mapping and tracking offer decryption of all data on the phone for any reason.
Walk into an area and your phone tells all. Travel, walk, drive, any phone will be scanned for contacts and any and all data, not just wider telco network details.
The gov masterkeys will then be sold or used by ex and former contractors for any reason with anyone with the cash.
The end result of junk court mandated gov encryption is anyone can do anything they like on the wider telco system down to the now decrypted users data.
Greek wiretapping case 2004–05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–05
SISMI-Telecom scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Interactive movie prop that the cast can be seen working over as the data and images move the plot along? Just dont get any of the set crew reflected back:)
Re "preferred to see things settled decisively in our favor: that a legal precedent would be established enshrining the right to encryption."
"Justice Dept. withdraws legal action against Apple over San Bernardino iPhone" http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
has the quote ""consistent with standard investigatory procedures.''"
A method that is open court ready with the origins of any new case for any legal team to question in open court for all the other generation of phones?
Ready for a set of state and federal task forces or federal funding to help with devices needing the same method at a city, state and federal level?
It keeps a lot of skilled people in gov jobs or no bid contracts.
Without that gov work they may enter the real private sector. Govs and mil regulators dont like that idea of "their" nations very smart people just wondering around finding work with anyone who has cash and some related big project.
It also keeps very advanced generational skill alive that would have to be re created if lost to budget cuts within a few decades.
Nations get to work together and get to be seen to share funding and the science results.
Collect it all was a very old idea eg from 1945. Project SHAMROCK "involved the accumulation of all telegraphic data entering into or exiting from the United States" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As far as digital work with databases at a national level, 1969 was the first real mention of national collection that was searchable and gated to select clearance access in the UK based on the 1965 US vision of the Community Online Intelligence System (COINS).
Later phone collection could be see with early 1990's CRISSCROSS/PROTON.
The data was always kept, just the collection, database systems needed had to be funded, find contractors and expanded. Who got access and had the operational control was also interesting vs who did the national collection.
The NSA and GCHQ and other 5 eye nations had voice prints to cover just that for many, many years.
The security services just collect all signals over any city 24/7. (3 August 2008)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"They are attempting to identify suspects using ‘voice prints’" "... searching for voice matches with those overheard in.."
The new idea is to sell that same tool set to state and state/federal task forces for open court use. One step in that evidence chain is to ID the phone to an open court ready standard.
Other nations use interconnecting state and federal ID with photo ID and secure database lookups. One faked ID card wont do much unless the system has not been well thought out. Political pressure might shape the ID needed to such a low level "everyone" can feel comfortable getting a new phone without deeper supporting paperwork. The only presented ID is fake or of no value to actually ID the person presenting it would render the entire ID upgrade useless from a security aspect but very fun for the no bid profits and contractor overtime.
They get your ID when buying a connecting to the network. Buy an old phone and use it for apps, media but the network connection will then need the ID.
Soon it will be like other nations with a "100 point check", photo ID and other supporting ID. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Re 'AI writing code for us?"
Who will set the policy to shape the ability to design and code the UK's gov's and mil's AI's? Will the UK face an AI gap thanks to altered educational policy?
Could the UK see itself having to fully import its code and software? Domestically the fully imported turn key call centre and web 2.0 GUI front ends to complex databases are a great success in keeping local development costs down.
A team of UK lawyers and a few security cleared consultants will sign over the fully imported pre built systems and its win win.
The real loss will be the ongoing education efforts to make computing, crypto and maths interesting by the GCHQ.
If a loss of math and computer science interest gets to be policy over a decade of emerging educational standards it will difficult to draw top staff from a shrinking number of security cleared expert graduates. Even with top gov/mil wages and support
GCHQ staff teach 'future spies' in schools (9 March 2011) http://www.bbc.com/news/educat...
Re 'What could possibly go wrong?"
The UK cold end up been totally dependant on US contractors for all advanced mil, gov products, design and long term support services.
Great for the US contractors and shareholders but very interesting policy considerations for the UK.
During the cold war the UK always had top language experts, translation, maths and crypto skills. A near endless pool of top graduates with the skills ready for any advanced mil and gov tasks.
Low pay, further education while working and advancement was a huge budget issue but the UK always had the skills.
Find the ready device in car park and pick it up and see what is on it before returning to owner if details are on the files. Gets the code onto a inner networked work computer and hope to infect all other usb devices.
Deep penetration agent gets to a secure work only USB device to install new code and gets the later returned data from a secure area. Sneaker net it out even with no or low site clearance.
Flood all staff members with the code to infect their less secure home and work computers and hope one gets sloppy and uses the air gapped drive for "work" on a home or networked computer.
Flood an nations regional networks per street with code and a random workers home or office computer is infected.
The code would be bespoke so it would not show on any consumer AV yet and would try and infect only for an expected larger network.
Re '"analyze and profitize the spoken text data too?"
Pics, text, sound and any other environmental sensor data found networked will feed the ads...:)
Google looks to patent tech that listens to calls to promote ads (23 March 2012) http://www.cnet.com/news/googl...
"..the patent application also looks into placing onto people's computers online ads that are influenced by data from environmental sensors--such as temperature, humidity, light, and sound. "
Once a gov has splitters, weak crypto and friendly staff members at a generational design level in place in the past what can now be fixed?
Hunt down the gov hardware at the optical level thats still part of ongoing investigations and has to be left in place and will be upgraded for many years?
Thats under some security letter or a secret court has the color of law paperwork.. who even has the authority mention that within the wider brand?
Clean room the next crypto with a brand new, more advanced team?
Re fab the hardware from new with new staff?
Side ways or promote any team members who worked with any gov team away from new crypto or other sensitive development areas?
Find new consultants and contractors with a lack of working for govs/mil and have them restart generational projects again?
Back to the new thinking of the 1920-30's. Every squad or smaller team tried to ensure every person could do the tasks of every other member to a very good skill level. If out of communications or needing support, the full skill sets for most of the common equipment was at least part of the expected work load. The mission could go on without direct orders and without questioning orders. ie nothing would be unexpected and the team would always be ready to follow any order and reach the objective as any member could carry on with most tasks.
The only down side to such advanced methods is that every member of the team is way too smart and becomes of great interest to other nations intelligence services. Any rank now has interesting information to a high level vs the traditional limited need to know work load for that limited mission.
The other question is why the rush for each member to such a high level vs having other "real" expert units to support them?
A lack of lots of troops showing every member has to be expected to do a lot more? A system top heavy with outside consultants and contractors in distant support roles with too few real troops now expected to do many tasks rather than just be troops.
The other issues is the ongoing mindset of low ranks with a lot of new skills. They expect easy promotion with the advanced work they have put in or the ability to sell their unique skills back as wealthy private sector contractors soon. If they feel they are been overlooked at an individual level their lack of promotion and wealth is a wide opening to other nations intelligence services.
Thats why other nations are much more careful about any skill sets or advanced methods until total trust is ensured or a long term role is ready. Creating elite like units without the mass of a large standing army sounds neat but its hard to keep a long term win with just up skilled units.
Western gov's are often hoping to spread information too. Western broadcasters backed by gov's with big budgets to spread information have moved from powerful radio stations, satellite television to web 2.0 to spread their traditional messages globally.
ie what was the old international public radio broadcaster methods backed by the US is now an online effort and buying into any social media to get its message out.
So expect to see a massive expansion of "free" walled garden internet that feeds back to gov backed funding or gov backed NGO's.
Any file of any size could be reduced to easy to upload parts and then downloaded, joined up thanks to a global network:)
Thats now seen as "creative"? All the tools, code have existed for many years. Just the free upload and search methods change:)
The NSA and GCHQ are collecting all in the hope to replay any event and then find connecting digital hops 3 or 4 hops away from a well understood origin.
Every call, funding, fax, digital account, chat room, file, propaganda support, contact and context.
The problem with the NSA and GCHQ thinking on this is bulk collection just gets too much random data after event data thats junk.
The other problem is acting on such collected information is letting the world know of such methods. Use the gathered results too many times to WIN in public and the world takes note as the information only had one origin - a computer, digital or voice print phone network.
Tradecraft has well understood and evolved around the US and UK total fascination with voice calls, phone numbers, banking, phone, computer and networking since the 1960's.
The huge tasking budgets that got sold to the political oversight meetings was the ability to listen to any senior Soviet official using an early cell phone in 1980's Moscow. That easy collection win was was projected into the 2010's and way beyond with ever growing teams of private sector consultants and gov workers.
Everyone of interest would always carry a cell phone as a beacon, home computer with a consumer OS, use consumer VOIP, move digital files just as past generations had a phone, a fax, voice print, modem. Make lots of calls to other known or new phone numbers as generations of people always had....
If digital collection is all a government has, the world will always be sold as been digital collection ready. Collect it all was the policy and way to ever more funding and gov and mil expansion. Contractors enjoyed up selling new methods and systems too with great over time.
Now real world complexity sets in. How to track people with no cell phones? Ireland in the 1960-90's showed the UK just how to do that with expert teams, undercover vans, cars, trucks, sat, local clothing, haircuts suited to the area and the ability to blend in for days, weeks, months, years to track just one person.
Thats the new skill sets needed, 6-10 people with skills trying to cover one person again. Gov teams have to blend into now very different inner city communities and have the ability to present a good reason for been in that insular area of a city everyday when openly confronted by a closed inner city community.
Intelligent and efficient software is useless if the interesting people dont feel the need to make calls everyday or interact with expected digital networks under constant watch...
Time to fund the mil and gov reconnaissance teams at the rate of 6 to 10 skilled team members per interesting person again. Thats some great new overtime for 24/7 eyes on work with a few million ++ people of interest.
The other method is to turn every interesting person who has every had any contact with the legal system into the perfect informant. They have the life story, slang, backgrounds, homes, work places to collect it all:) Stories for cash, stories to stay free, stories to impress their gov contact. Get to every boss or company and try and have them collect information on all of their workers? The ratios of people needing constant watch is getting interesting.
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Yes it would have been interesting to see the demand to be conscripted per phone to having to create gov ready software for all phones of a generation within a brand.
The gov ready master key that gave a gov worker or contractor access to any phone in a generation from any gov computer.
http://nypost.com/2016/03/02/f... (March 2, 2016)
"“The request we got from the government in this case is, ‘Take this tool and put it on a hard drive, send it to the FBI,’ and they’d load it onto their computer,” "
Re "should keep quiet."
The US gov had that hidden win with PRISM and ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The cost of parallel construction was not great but the risk of a court of expert teams finally asking questions about the origins of a case was not always risk free.
Hidden cell phone tracking, voice prints and decryption get decades of easy access to start to build a public case.
The press, lawyers, tech experts in the US could slowly see that not all cases got built on informants, ex convicts, traditional undercover or "luck". Long term computer and cell phone tracking built the case or was the origin of the case without any clear public court support as to just how that case started.
Working back to make parallel construction seem to work in a public court is a risk with outside hardware costs been seen at a local government level or hardware in play (mass buying and use of stingrays, dirtboxes)
The easy way out was to conscript a company into making encryption useless and giving the US gov, its workers, contractors, ex staff, former workers and others the masterkey to a generation of cell phones. The phone then becomes the court friendly informant and legal teams can ask all they want about how a case was built.
Its two long term views, the NSA and GCHQ that hidden collect it all is the only secure long term goal, to keep interesting people trusting their decrypted cell phones, weak encryption on computers and poor quality OS's. Just never tell any court. vs
Local city, state and federal task forces view that quick, in public court wins bring budget growth, more expert staff and political glory.
The wider public is so addicted to digital technology that they cannot stop using devices that are gov ready live mics, tracking beacons, collect voice prints and are key loggers.
With a cell phone been seen as the main aspect of building a case in public court will interesting people change their digital habits?
The other option is to secure parallel construction by freezing funds to ensure nobody can ever afford to question the origins of their case.
With all funds frozen, no legal team, no real experts to trace back the paperwork, just a gov appointed lawyer that will pass on the gov deal or do their best in public court with no experts or funding.
Or just conscript a brand to provide the data to the gov on all phones and keep on selling phones.
Think back to PRISM. That worked well for both the brand and gov but could not be mentioned in court or to the press.
An entire generation of older cell phones had older tech that could be recovered per device so that covers the past legal "help" question.
The next step was for the US gov to ask for a master key that the gov could use on any phone for any reason and that the brand would have to make.
The US gov would have conscripted a computer system that they could use for generations of phones without oversight on any phone by anyone who worked with or for law enforcement. A master key in the hands of ex staff, former staff, anyone who could pay for the service.
A masterkey for any state, federal or international use. Shared at a city, state, federal and with international teams, that key could be used or sold by anyone for any reason.
Junk crypto that can be accessed on any computer to open generations of phones is very poor policy around the world.
It stops people thinking about parallel construction. ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and PRISM like contractors at the federal/state/city level https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... The mass use of dirtbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... or collecting voice prints. :)
Keep using any phone with confidence to chat, call and keep lots of data on it too
Follow the new funding and next gen expert cyber contractors who can "track", log, chat on or enter or log ip's on the ever ending, banned "darknet". :) :) Only private sector contractors have the skills and have the past court ready experience to do that. Let the new cyber funding flow and show what amounts billable hours can reach:)
That no bid funding and expert overtime will add up once the banning laws set in
Cash for the expert skills, cash for new support networks that cant be tracked back or found by anyone so sock puppets and undercover personas can thrive online over years.
The software needed to log and capture data all has to be rented or created too
Re "You must not have lived through the Civil Rights and/or Viet Nam War protests." :)
That was really a good public look via the Church report https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... at the US gov in action over the mass collection of data domestically and later direct domestic action to stop anti war protesters.
The Mass surveillance in the United States page does have some of the methods used listed during that time for collection and later the results. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Later efforts would be MAIN CORE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and then ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Wide area collection via stingrays, dirtboxes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... just for been in a area of interest.
With todays US/UK "collect it all" domestic access via help from telcos and computer brands, everyone has an East German style database entry to 'know everything about everyone" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Even just using this site and 5 eyes https://news.slashdot.org/stor...
Re "Is this technically impossible? I don't know much about encryption (as may be obvious) but it seems like if we don't reach a compromise, things are going to end a lot worse with the government ultimately getting its way without any input from the industry."
As some have commented will all US paper shredder brands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... have to provide expensive unshredding support via a scanner, software and be able to put the cut paper back together as a readable document on gov demand for free?
Serial numbers in printers to print a code on every page to track to origin?
What the US wants to return to is the Clipper chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... been designed into every US connected phone for free.
A US gov conscripted master key giving access to all phone data to any bureaucrat globally who worked with the US, ex staff, former staff and anyone who can hire the skills of former staff.
The US gov wanted a computer system fully under their own control to decrypt any cell phone of that generation.
In the past AC the US and 5 eye nations got that access under PRISM and a lot of other methods for access.
"Do We Need A Bigger SIGINT Truck?" note the term "phone-a-friends"
https://www.eff.org/document/2...
Handles Encrypted Traffic
https://www.eff.org/document/2...
VPN
https://www.eff.org/document/2...
and ICREACH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... that gave access to but the US still had to cover the origins in open court.
The color of law change is all the once secure, hidden methods and tools will be for sale by contractors down at the federal and very local city/state federal task force level to use in any open court for any reason. Any level of government will have the decryption tools, even just to look and see if they feel they want to later build a case.
Why rent a system of access tools to just a few levels of the mil or federal government when a huge list of cities and states will have new funding on the table too for local courts needing digital support services?
So that US "court system" will now get to decrypt any phone sold in the USA or connected to a US phone network by conscripting the designers/software creators.
A brand will have to design in junk encryption with the US gov getting a masterkey over every generation of product.
The phone can then become the origin of a case or informant in a public court thanks to a gov demanded master key to all US phones. No need to build up a wider case, the phone will tell all and no encryption sold will be allowed to keep data secure for any reason.
The tool sets will collect voice prints, mapping and tracking offer decryption of all data on the phone for any reason.
Walk into an area and your phone tells all. Travel, walk, drive, any phone will be scanned for contacts and any and all data, not just wider telco network details.
The gov masterkeys will then be sold or used by ex and former contractors for any reason with anyone with the cash.
The end result of junk court mandated gov encryption is anyone can do anything they like on the wider telco system down to the now decrypted users data.
Greek wiretapping case 2004–05 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...–05
SISMI-Telecom scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Interactive movie prop that the cast can be seen working over as the data and images move the plot along? Just dont get any of the set crew reflected back :)
Re "preferred to see things settled decisively in our favor: that a legal precedent would be established enshrining the right to encryption."
"Justice Dept. withdraws legal action against Apple over San Bernardino iPhone"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/...
has the quote ""consistent with standard investigatory procedures.''"
A method that is open court ready with the origins of any new case for any legal team to question in open court for all the other generation of phones?
Ready for a set of state and federal task forces or federal funding to help with devices needing the same method at a city, state and federal level?
It keeps a lot of skilled people in gov jobs or no bid contracts.
Without that gov work they may enter the real private sector. Govs and mil regulators dont like that idea of "their" nations very smart people just wondering around finding work with anyone who has cash and some related big project.
It also keeps very advanced generational skill alive that would have to be re created if lost to budget cuts within a few decades.
Nations get to work together and get to be seen to share funding and the science results.
Collect it all was a very old idea eg from 1945. Project SHAMROCK "involved the accumulation of all telegraphic data entering into or exiting from the United States"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
As far as digital work with databases at a national level, 1969 was the first real mention of national collection that was searchable and gated to select clearance access in the UK based on the 1965 US vision of the Community Online Intelligence System (COINS).
Later phone collection could be see with early 1990's CRISSCROSS/PROTON.
The data was always kept, just the collection, database systems needed had to be funded, find contractors and expanded. Who got access and had the operational control was also interesting vs who did the national collection.
Make that Main Core database with just the right style of creative art work :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The NSA and GCHQ and other 5 eye nations had voice prints to cover just that for many, many years. .."
The security services just collect all signals over any city 24/7. (3 August 2008) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
"They are attempting to identify suspects using ‘voice prints’" "... searching for voice matches with those overheard in
The new idea is to sell that same tool set to state and state/federal task forces for open court use. One step in that evidence chain is to ID the phone to an open court ready standard.
Other nations use interconnecting state and federal ID with photo ID and secure database lookups. One faked ID card wont do much unless the system has not been well thought out.
Political pressure might shape the ID needed to such a low level "everyone" can feel comfortable getting a new phone without deeper supporting paperwork. The only presented ID is fake or of no value to actually ID the person presenting it would render the entire ID upgrade useless from a security aspect but very fun for the no bid profits and contractor overtime.
They get your ID when buying a connecting to the network. Buy an old phone and use it for apps, media but the network connection will then need the ID.
Soon it will be like other nations with a "100 point check", photo ID and other supporting ID. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Re 'AI writing code for us?"
Who will set the policy to shape the ability to design and code the UK's gov's and mil's AI's? Will the UK face an AI gap thanks to altered educational policy?
Could the UK see itself having to fully import its code and software? Domestically the fully imported turn key call centre and web 2.0 GUI front ends to complex databases are a great success in keeping local development costs down.
A team of UK lawyers and a few security cleared consultants will sign over the fully imported pre built systems and its win win.
The real loss will be the ongoing education efforts to make computing, crypto and maths interesting by the GCHQ.
If a loss of math and computer science interest gets to be policy over a decade of emerging educational standards it will difficult to draw top staff from a shrinking number of security cleared expert graduates. Even with top gov/mil wages and support
GCHQ staff teach 'future spies' in schools (9 March 2011)
http://www.bbc.com/news/educat...
Re 'What could possibly go wrong?"
The UK cold end up been totally dependant on US contractors for all advanced mil, gov products, design and long term support services.
Great for the US contractors and shareholders but very interesting policy considerations for the UK.
During the cold war the UK always had top language experts, translation, maths and crypto skills. A near endless pool of top graduates with the skills ready for any advanced mil and gov tasks.
Low pay, further education while working and advancement was a huge budget issue but the UK always had the skills.
Find the ready device in car park and pick it up and see what is on it before returning to owner if details are on the files. Gets the code onto a inner networked work computer and hope to infect all other usb devices.
Deep penetration agent gets to a secure work only USB device to install new code and gets the later returned data from a secure area. Sneaker net it out even with no or low site clearance.
Flood all staff members with the code to infect their less secure home and work computers and hope one gets sloppy and uses the air gapped drive for "work" on a home or networked computer.
Flood an nations regional networks per street with code and a random workers home or office computer is infected.
The code would be bespoke so it would not show on any consumer AV yet and would try and infect only for an expected larger network.
Re '"analyze and profitize the spoken text data too?" ... :)
Pics, text, sound and any other environmental sensor data found networked will feed the ads
Google looks to patent tech that listens to calls to promote ads (23 March 2012)
http://www.cnet.com/news/googl... "..the patent application also looks into placing onto people's computers online ads that are influenced by data from environmental sensors--such as temperature, humidity, light, and sound. "
Any 5 eye nation, NATO nation would welcome the design campus and teams in with a low tax rate. Then the same deep access would be requested.
Once a gov has splitters, weak crypto and friendly staff members at a generational design level in place in the past what can now be fixed?
Hunt down the gov hardware at the optical level thats still part of ongoing investigations and has to be left in place and will be upgraded for many years?
Thats under some security letter or a secret court has the color of law paperwork.. who even has the authority mention that within the wider brand?
Clean room the next crypto with a brand new, more advanced team?
Re fab the hardware from new with new staff?
Side ways or promote any team members who worked with any gov team away from new crypto or other sensitive development areas?
Find new consultants and contractors with a lack of working for govs/mil and have them restart generational projects again?
Back to the new thinking of the 1920-30's. Every squad or smaller team tried to ensure every person could do the tasks of every other member to a very good skill level. If out of communications or needing support, the full skill sets for most of the common equipment was at least part of the expected work load. The mission could go on without direct orders and without questioning orders. ie nothing would be unexpected and the team would always be ready to follow any order and reach the objective as any member could carry on with most tasks.
The only down side to such advanced methods is that every member of the team is way too smart and becomes of great interest to other nations intelligence services.
Any rank now has interesting information to a high level vs the traditional limited need to know work load for that limited mission.
The other question is why the rush for each member to such a high level vs having other "real" expert units to support them?
A lack of lots of troops showing every member has to be expected to do a lot more? A system top heavy with outside consultants and contractors in distant support roles with too few real troops now expected to do many tasks rather than just be troops.
The other issues is the ongoing mindset of low ranks with a lot of new skills. They expect easy promotion with the advanced work they have put in or the ability to sell their unique skills back as wealthy private sector contractors soon. If they feel they are been overlooked at an individual level their lack of promotion and wealth is a wide opening to other nations intelligence services.
Thats why other nations are much more careful about any skill sets or advanced methods until total trust is ensured or a long term role is ready. Creating elite like units without the mass of a large standing army sounds neat but its hard to keep a long term win with just up skilled units.
Western gov's are often hoping to spread information too. Western broadcasters backed by gov's with big budgets to spread information have moved from powerful radio stations, satellite television to web 2.0 to spread their traditional messages globally.
ie what was the old international public radio broadcaster methods backed by the US is now an online effort and buying into any social media to get its message out.
So expect to see a massive expansion of "free" walled garden internet that feeds back to gov backed funding or gov backed NGO's.
Any file of any size could be reduced to easy to upload parts and then downloaded, joined up thanks to a global network :) :)
Thats now seen as "creative"? All the tools, code have existed for many years. Just the free upload and search methods change
The NSA and GCHQ are collecting all in the hope to replay any event and then find connecting digital hops 3 or 4 hops away from a well understood origin. :) Stories for cash, stories to stay free, stories to impress their gov contact. Get to every boss or company and try and have them collect information on all of their workers? The ratios of people needing constant watch is getting interesting.
Every call, funding, fax, digital account, chat room, file, propaganda support, contact and context.
The problem with the NSA and GCHQ thinking on this is bulk collection just gets too much random data after event data thats junk.
The other problem is acting on such collected information is letting the world know of such methods. Use the gathered results too many times to WIN in public and the world takes note as the information only had one origin - a computer, digital or voice print phone network.
Tradecraft has well understood and evolved around the US and UK total fascination with voice calls, phone numbers, banking, phone, computer and networking since the 1960's.
The huge tasking budgets that got sold to the political oversight meetings was the ability to listen to any senior Soviet official using an early cell phone in 1980's Moscow. That easy collection win was was projected into the 2010's and way beyond with ever growing teams of private sector consultants and gov workers.
Everyone of interest would always carry a cell phone as a beacon, home computer with a consumer OS, use consumer VOIP, move digital files just as past generations had a phone, a fax, voice print, modem. Make lots of calls to other known or new phone numbers as generations of people always had....
If digital collection is all a government has, the world will always be sold as been digital collection ready. Collect it all was the policy and way to ever more funding and gov and mil expansion. Contractors enjoyed up selling new methods and systems too with great over time.
Now real world complexity sets in. How to track people with no cell phones?
Ireland in the 1960-90's showed the UK just how to do that with expert teams, undercover vans, cars, trucks, sat, local clothing, haircuts suited to the area and the ability to blend in for days, weeks, months, years to track just one person.
Thats the new skill sets needed, 6-10 people with skills trying to cover one person again. Gov teams have to blend into now very different inner city communities and have the ability to present a good reason for been in that insular area of a city everyday when openly confronted by a closed inner city community.
Intelligent and efficient software is useless if the interesting people dont feel the need to make calls everyday or interact with expected digital networks under constant watch...
Time to fund the mil and gov reconnaissance teams at the rate of 6 to 10 skilled team members per interesting person again. Thats some great new overtime for 24/7 eyes on work with a few million ++ people of interest.
The other method is to turn every interesting person who has every had any contact with the legal system into the perfect informant. They have the life story, slang, backgrounds, homes, work places to collect it all