If you really think that, I'd encourage you to think some more. In this article, Havoc Pennington gives several reasons why too many otpions can be bad. Whether you think Gnome 2 has given the right answers to these issues or not, all of them have merit:
Too many preferences means you can't find any of them.
Preferences really substantively damage QA and testing.
Preferences make integration and good UI difficult.
"Pathetic", I don't think so. Have you used it? "It looks like" is hardly a valid point when assessing a UI. I did use it, and it rocks.
I missed 2 things:
1) Basic DE infrastructure support, like e.g., support of gnome-session 2) Support from multi window apps, like Gimp
The first issue is there because the maintainer is/was just not interested in it. After all, Ion is mostly a project to explore a special form of window handling The second issue probably can't be solved without apps giving hints etc. But it was not a major thing, I just ran those apps on their own desktop with xnest.
Other than that, I've never used wm that so much supported me and stayed out of the way
IIRC, it is said by a despot who wants to make people's lifes worse not better. Whatever the US has done to its legal sytem and the people working in it, let's not forget that actually _having a legal system and lawyers was a big step forward
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spread over/etc/var/usr/root/usr/X11 and even (I kid you not)/bin.
And guess what, it is. Or rather, can be, depending on the amount of oppression. E.g., there have been attacks on Hitler (unfortunately none succeeding) that are considered ok from today's POV
My "twisted reason" is that I could watch the shows on TV - crappily dubbed by German 3rd rate actors. The only option to see it in original language is p2p. True, I could wait 10 years untils someone gets around releasing them on DVD, and buy them for 500 EUR per series. I think I'll pass on that. And I happen to believe that morally I am completely within my rights to do that
Not knowing the "research" in detail, I'd think that it shouldn't be used without repeating the results in trusted environments. Everybody knows that the Nazis ran off into the most incredible directions (apart from the obvious things of genozide etc.). Look at the "research" in occult stuff they have done, their drug addictions, the ridiculous race reserach stuff they came up with. It's obvious that you can't trust any research of any of those crazy scientists because they sure as hell did not respect the scientific method.
What about telling them "in the rare case that a shitty site won't work in firefox, you can still use IE". I mean come on, nearly everybody gets that. I know from experience.
outside of nerdville, who gives a shit about Firefox
Stern, a major (probably the biggest) German weekly magazine (circulation 1.1 million) routinely has articles about Firefox. Here is one from their website, and in issue 49 they had a full page in their print version. It was extremely positive and basically said "get rid of IE, here's what to use"
you still have to pay a license fee for decoding. (...) IIRC, Red Hat doesn't come with any precompiled MP3 players for exactly this reason.
Not everybody lives in the US, and, e.g., SuSE distributes decoders in the EU. Obviously they do not think that there is a legal problem with decoding software. So does Debian for that matter, and they/are/ anal about legal stuff (and rightly so). In fact, Debian even distributes Gnome's Sound Juicer CD ripper with mp3 encoding support.
But be that as it may. If you (and RedHat) are right, it is only one reason more added to the point of my post. Which was that, contrary to the OP's opinion, I do consider ogg support vital, because I won't encode my music collection to mp3 because of current or possible future legal problems
Exactly. I download US tv shows because it is simply not possible to otherwise see them in my part of europe (or only in a crap version dubbed in the local language). Precious few are available on DVD in video stores (mostly limited to Sex&City, 6 Feet Under, and Friends). Some can't even be bought on DVD, and if so, only for outrageous prices. I don't see how a US broadcaster can claim any lost revenue.
And this is just a rather bad example. What about the huge numbers of migrant workers in Europe? How is a Portuguese guy working in Finland supposed to keep in touch with pop culture/language at home? If he can't download, he'll have friends encode and burn the shows.
Well, ogg support is a biggie. I surely won't sit down and rip/encode hundreds of CDs for days and days, and then have them in a format known to be patent-encumbered, support for which in free software can be yanked at any time
Agreed on the balance thing. My reply was to a guy who said "options are never bad" (note: never)
If you really think that, I'd encourage you to think some more. In this article, Havoc Pennington gives several reasons why too many otpions can be bad. Whether you think Gnome 2 has given the right answers to these issues or not, all of them have merit:
Too many preferences means you can't find any of them.
Preferences really substantively damage QA and testing.
Preferences make integration and good UI difficult.
Preferences keep people from fixing real bugs.
Preferences can confuse many users.
"Pathetic", I don't think so. Have you used it? "It looks like" is hardly a valid point when assessing a UI. I did use it, and it rocks.
I missed 2 things:
1) Basic DE infrastructure support, like e.g., support of gnome-session
2) Support from multi window apps, like Gimp
The first issue is there because the maintainer is/was just not interested in it. After all, Ion is mostly a project to explore a special form of window handling
The second issue probably can't be solved without apps giving hints etc. But it was not a major thing, I just ran those apps on their own desktop with xnest.
Other than that, I've never used wm that so much supported me and stayed out of the way
all the Linux desktops
Really? All?
use Linux only to boot into illegal copies of Windows
Pray tell, how do I do that?
Lol. Soup nazi reference?
There's an option for it somewhere
:)
This surely is the expression I read most when the topic is KDE
No matter what case, or mixed case, you write a word in, it still has the same meaning
I don't think so. Just a random example that immediately jumped into my mind:
"Tell us to leave Iraq alone" vs. "Tell US to leave Iraq alone"
IIRC, it is said by a despot who wants to make people's lifes worse not better. Whatever the US has done to its legal sytem and the people working in it, let's not forget that actually _having a legal system and lawyers was a big step forward
spread over /etc /var /usr /root /usr/X11 and even (I kid you not) /bin.
wtf? What distro are you running?
And guess what, it is. Or rather, can be, depending on the amount of oppression. E.g., there have been attacks on Hitler (unfortunately none succeeding) that are considered ok from today's POV
My "twisted reason" is that I could watch the shows on TV - crappily dubbed by German 3rd rate actors. The only option to see it in original language is p2p. True, I could wait 10 years untils someone gets around releasing them on DVD, and buy them for 500 EUR per series. I think I'll pass on that.
And I happen to believe that morally I am completely within my rights to do that
There is NO customer support other than the support you get from a listserv full of other people who can 't get help with their problems.
See Ubuntu Paid Technical Support for a list of options
But that doesn't include the win32 codecs, so out of luck for p2p movies. Try Christian Marillat's repository
Hoary has the "Ubuntu Update Manager" in Apps -> System, which lets you point and click the repositories you want
Not knowing the "research" in detail, I'd think that it shouldn't be used without repeating the results in trusted environments. Everybody knows that the Nazis ran off into the most incredible directions (apart from the obvious things of genozide etc.). Look at the "research" in occult stuff they have done, their drug addictions, the ridiculous race reserach stuff they came up with. It's obvious that you can't trust any research of any of those crazy scientists because they sure as hell did not respect the scientific method.
Qt on Windows is proprietary
Hacker
:)
Cracker
King of the nerds, my ass
What about telling them "in the rare case that a shitty site won't work in firefox, you can still use IE". I mean come on, nearly everybody gets that. I know from experience.
outside of nerdville, who gives a shit about Firefox
Stern, a major (probably the biggest) German weekly magazine (circulation 1.1 million) routinely has articles about Firefox. Here is one from their website, and in issue 49 they had a full page in their print version. It was extremely positive and basically said "get rid of IE, here's what to use"
you still have to pay a license fee for decoding. (...) IIRC, Red Hat doesn't come with any precompiled MP3 players for exactly this reason.
/are/ anal about legal stuff (and rightly so). In fact, Debian even distributes Gnome's Sound Juicer CD ripper with mp3 encoding support.
Not everybody lives in the US, and, e.g., SuSE distributes decoders in the EU. Obviously they do not think that there is a legal problem with decoding software. So does Debian for that matter, and they
But be that as it may. If you (and RedHat) are right, it is only one reason more added to the point of my post. Which was that, contrary to the OP's opinion, I do consider ogg support vital, because I won't encode my music collection to mp3 because of current or possible future legal problems
Exactly. I download US tv shows because it is simply not possible to otherwise see them in my part of europe (or only in a crap version dubbed in the local language). Precious few are available on DVD in video stores (mostly limited to Sex&City, 6 Feet Under, and Friends). Some can't even be bought on DVD, and if so, only for outrageous prices.
I don't see how a US broadcaster can claim any lost revenue.
And this is just a rather bad example. What about the huge numbers of migrant workers in Europe? How is a Portuguese guy working in Finland supposed to keep in touch with pop culture/language at home? If he can't download, he'll have friends encode and burn the shows.
Rio Karma: ogg and flac support, 20 GB
Well, ogg support is a biggie. I surely won't sit down and rip/encode hundreds of CDs for days and days, and then have them in a format known to be patent-encumbered, support for which in free software can be yanked at any time
They do. Where I live(Europe, they used to carry a can on their belt, nowadays it's pepper spray