Seriously, and who stores this kind of stuff on their computers anyway? Sure, I keep my email passwords saved on my computer, but even the sales receipts and what not I have on there certaintly don't have more than my name and address on them; the credit card numbers have all beeen **** out by the store I bought from. Stuff like bank passwords, I definately won't have saved on my computer.
The real problem/crime here is that they went to the Geek Squad....
Operating systems are a solved problem. The devils are in various niche details. Rational people with complete information (I heart Adam Smith) should be running OS X on the desktop and whatever they want/have to use on the server.
Hrm, actually I think rational people will observe there is no perfect solution for everyone. While fanboys will, of course, try and push their own opinions onto other people. Sorry bud, OSX isn't the silver bullet. Yes, I know Steve Jobs told you otherwise. Yes, I saw the commercials....
Ya, that's what I did with people I work with. It's really nice because each CD booklet comes with the install CD and then a Live CD to test it out with. People at work were like 'WTH is a live cd?'
So, they're pretty much giving you 20 CDs, and you can even ask for more or trade some of the PC ones for 64-bit or powerpc. It did take awhile though, about 2 months. But I can't think of another OS that ships out 20 CDs for FREE.
Yes, that makes sense, from a hardware perspective. But keep in mind there can also be software emulation. I know Wikipedia isn't always the best place to find facts, but here is what they have to say (It should be noted that WINE is listed as an external link at the bottom). Hell, they even say themselves that it is an emulator.
Wine is an implementation of the Windows API. It is not an emulator of any kind.
I keep hearing this, and I would like to know where you got your definition of emulator. I was unable to find such a bastardized version on dictionary.com
Here's a good definition of emulator: It enables code written using it to run natively on non-Microsoft platforms.
By extension of your logic it would seem that any application written using a library "intended" for use in the Linux world (such as Gaim and GTK+) cannot be considered "native" to Windows when ported to it, but this is clearly not the case.
Hrm, if they are the pretty much the exact same.exe that requires Wine to run, then yes, it would be an emulation. If it is a code-rewrite that does the same functions, I would call it a "port". "Intended" use doesn't mean shit (hint: it has to do with the code). If it runs on both systems without a code modification, I wouldn't use the term ported or emulated.
I'm with you on this one.. MarioKart 64 with 4 people on a projector, still hella fun (preffered over the GameCube version even). My roommates and I play through the Zeldas and Marios every once in a while too.
There are tons of generic class drivers inbox in Windows. In fact, I challenge you to name one that is missing that is available in, say, OS X. I'll be waiting.
Did you read the post above the parents? You know, the one that said that a working driver was available in Ubuntu and not in XP? I had the same experience this weekend (Broadcom NIC, very common). So, while Microsoft may not do it, it is obviously possible to do so. And uh ya, he could have used a flash key instead of a cd (wtf?).
Well, the reason I said that was because not everyone is going to agree with each other. And if we wait for some unanimous agreement before action is taken, we aren't even going to get started. So, MIT has their ideas, and they're acting on theirs... You have your ideas, and what? It may take an entire community, or whatnot, but this process needs to be started by someone. But before you start taking man power away from MIT's idea, you should probably have something more than some idea you posted about on teh Slashdots. Or is your plan just to have someone else do all of the work and you critique it? Mine too.
500 is just the threshold they use, it doesn't make you anymore legal if you have 500 shared items, I would sure as hell prepare for my house to be raided. Which means, either get that shit out of the house or get it setup to be able to press a button and the entire contents of your HD are thoroughly shredded. You definately don't want to get your ass reamed by the RIAA.
Do you have any suggestions for an alternative? Should the authorities simply ignore claims of copyright infringement? Or perhaps use the honor system -- call the suspects on the phone and ask them if they've been sharing gigabytes worth of copyrighted material?
No, those are terrible ideas (sarcasm is fun for everyone). I believe the parent is referring to outdated copyright laws. I believe it was originally meant to deal with large cartels that would mass distribute CD's with copyrighted content on them, not some pimply teenager (or old woman) that stumbled upon a very easy way to get the music they wanted to hear. This kind of stuff is destroying people's lives; they get hit with very large fines that they really have no hope of paying off.
Sure, raiding the old cartel's warehouse was the right thing to do in the past... But come on, some little kid could be doing this stuff without even having the intent that the cartels had in the past. They aren't even making any money off of it!! Which was probably the justification behind the MASSIVE fines.
Maybe the thinking is that these kids will set an example to everyone else that is sharing copyrighted music, but obviously it's not working.
I'm not justifying copyright infringement, but I believe they are coming down waaaay too hard on these kids. They could simply deny the kids access to a computer and cut out the means of distribution, or cut out the internet for them, or confiscate their harddrives and not give them back. Do you all seriously believe this is causing thousands of dollars of damage per person to the RIAA?
People need to be educated about this and about how there are other ways to listen to music for free without stealing from the RIAA. But that's not what the RIAA wants, they want their money. Of course it's easy to sit back and say, oh well, they shouldn't have done that; copyright infringement is wrong, but so is destroying someone's life because of it.
Why not just plomp down an AMD PIC or two per classroom and use the same time sharing process? That'd not only be cheaper, but it could ACTUALLY BE DONE TODAY!!!
Is there someone stopping you from doing this?
And btw, they aren't taking any money right now. Hell, this pledging deal is just to try and convince the people in charge to allow people to buy one for $300.
I know how it is, I'm a very skeptical person myself, but saying they are trying to scam money is just wrong.
Well if you actually RTFA, Red Hat wants to hack the JVM so that it supports real-time features. So in other words, they want their own Red Hat Realtime Java fork. Wtf up with that? Sun gives them a distributable Java and they say they also need to hack up their own version of it.
Wait a sec, isn't that why Red Hat, or anyone, would want the source code? You know... to modify it... It's kind of the whole point.
Sadly, the Linux community is sometimes blinded by zealotry in cases like this.
How does thinking ahead and sticking to your ideals mean that you're "blinded"? You're just angry because you would give up your freedom for a very small convenience. To some people this is a big deal, and if you do a little reading on it, you would understand why. Some people underestimate the value of source code.
Mod me down, whatever, but Sun isn't making money either way.
Also, why the hell are they making a separate registry for this?
Money. Does anyone even use their cell phone regularly to access the internet(not email)? I've never really tried, just seems like something that would give me an anxiety attack.
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You have officially killed the joke.
Uh dude, you're replying to an AC...
I suggest you browse them at -6, your brain will thank you for it later.
Seriously, and who stores this kind of stuff on their computers anyway? Sure, I keep my email passwords saved on my computer, but even the sales receipts and what not I have on there certaintly don't have more than my name and address on them; the credit card numbers have all beeen **** out by the store I bought from. Stuff like bank passwords, I definately won't have saved on my computer.
The real problem/crime here is that they went to the Geek Squad....
Operating systems are a solved problem. The devils are in various niche details. Rational people with complete information (I heart Adam Smith) should be running OS X on the desktop and whatever they want/have to use on the server.
Hrm, actually I think rational people will observe there is no perfect solution for everyone. While fanboys will, of course, try and push their own opinions onto other people. Sorry bud, OSX isn't the silver bullet. Yes, I know Steve Jobs told you otherwise. Yes, I saw the commercials....
His mom is dead you insensitive clod!
your link is broken
Ya, that's what I did with people I work with. It's really nice because each CD booklet comes with the install CD and then a Live CD to test it out with. People at work were like 'WTH is a live cd?'
So, they're pretty much giving you 20 CDs, and you can even ask for more or trade some of the PC ones for 64-bit or powerpc. It did take awhile though, about 2 months. But I can't think of another OS that ships out 20 CDs for FREE.
Yes, that makes sense, from a hardware perspective. But keep in mind there can also be software emulation. I know Wikipedia isn't always the best place to find facts, but here is what they have to say (It should be noted that WINE is listed as an external link at the bottom). Hell, they even say themselves that it is an emulator.
Wine is an implementation of the Windows API. It is not an emulator of any kind.
.exe that requires Wine to run, then yes, it would be an emulation. If it is a code-rewrite that does the same functions, I would call it a "port". "Intended" use doesn't mean shit (hint: it has to do with the code). If it runs on both systems without a code modification, I wouldn't use the term ported or emulated.
I keep hearing this, and I would like to know where you got your definition of emulator. I was unable to find such a bastardized version on dictionary.com
Here's a good definition of emulator: It enables code written using it to run natively on non-Microsoft platforms.
By extension of your logic it would seem that any application written using a library "intended" for use in the Linux world (such as Gaim and GTK+) cannot be considered "native" to Windows when ported to it, but this is clearly not the case.
Hrm, if they are the pretty much the exact same
Is there a reason for them to do that? People have to pay to play xbox live... Or did you mean big switch as in going from the XBox to the Revolution?
I'm with you on this one.. MarioKart 64 with 4 people on a projector, still hella fun (preffered over the GameCube version even). My roommates and I play through the Zeldas and Marios every once in a while too.
I am Ron Burgundy?
There are tons of generic class drivers inbox in Windows. In fact, I challenge you to name one that is missing that is available in, say, OS X. I'll be waiting.
Did you read the post above the parents? You know, the one that said that a working driver was available in Ubuntu and not in XP? I had the same experience this weekend (Broadcom NIC, very common). So, while Microsoft may not do it, it is obviously possible to do so. And uh ya, he could have used a flash key instead of a cd (wtf?).
Well, the reason I said that was because not everyone is going to agree with each other. And if we wait for some unanimous agreement before action is taken, we aren't even going to get started. So, MIT has their ideas, and they're acting on theirs... You have your ideas, and what? It may take an entire community, or whatnot, but this process needs to be started by someone. But before you start taking man power away from MIT's idea, you should probably have something more than some idea you posted about on teh Slashdots. Or is your plan just to have someone else do all of the work and you critique it? Mine too.
500 is just the threshold they use, it doesn't make you anymore legal if you have 500 shared items, I would sure as hell prepare for my house to be raided. Which means, either get that shit out of the house or get it setup to be able to press a button and the entire contents of your HD are thoroughly shredded. You definately don't want to get your ass reamed by the RIAA.
Do you have any suggestions for an alternative? Should the authorities simply ignore claims of copyright infringement? Or perhaps use the honor system -- call the suspects on the phone and ask them if they've been sharing gigabytes worth of copyrighted material?
No, those are terrible ideas (sarcasm is fun for everyone). I believe the parent is referring to outdated copyright laws. I believe it was originally meant to deal with large cartels that would mass distribute CD's with copyrighted content on them, not some pimply teenager (or old woman) that stumbled upon a very easy way to get the music they wanted to hear. This kind of stuff is destroying people's lives; they get hit with very large fines that they really have no hope of paying off.
Sure, raiding the old cartel's warehouse was the right thing to do in the past... But come on, some little kid could be doing this stuff without even having the intent that the cartels had in the past. They aren't even making any money off of it!! Which was probably the justification behind the MASSIVE fines.
Maybe the thinking is that these kids will set an example to everyone else that is sharing copyrighted music, but obviously it's not working.
I'm not justifying copyright infringement, but I believe they are coming down waaaay too hard on these kids. They could simply deny the kids access to a computer and cut out the means of distribution, or cut out the internet for them, or confiscate their harddrives and not give them back. Do you all seriously believe this is causing thousands of dollars of damage per person to the RIAA?
People need to be educated about this and about how there are other ways to listen to music for free without stealing from the RIAA. But that's not what the RIAA wants, they want their money. Of course it's easy to sit back and say, oh well, they shouldn't have done that; copyright infringement is wrong, but so is destroying someone's life because of it.
SourceForge is a corporation? I learn something new every day.
I think they also serve as directional WiFi antennas.
Why not just plomp down an AMD PIC or two per classroom and use the same time sharing process? That'd not only be cheaper, but it could ACTUALLY BE DONE TODAY!!!
Is there someone stopping you from doing this?
And btw, they aren't taking any money right now. Hell, this pledging deal is just to try and convince the people in charge to allow people to buy one for $300.
I know how it is, I'm a very skeptical person myself, but saying they are trying to scam money is just wrong.
Well if you actually RTFA, Red Hat wants to hack the JVM so that it supports real-time features. So in other words, they want their own Red Hat Realtime Java fork. Wtf up with that? Sun gives them a distributable Java and they say they also need to hack up their own version of it.
Wait a sec, isn't that why Red Hat, or anyone, would want the source code? You know... to modify it... It's kind of the whole point.
Sadly, the Linux community is sometimes blinded by zealotry in cases like this.
How does thinking ahead and sticking to your ideals mean that you're "blinded"? You're just angry because you would give up your freedom for a very small convenience. To some people this is a big deal, and if you do a little reading on it, you would understand why. Some people underestimate the value of source code.
Mod me down, whatever, but Sun isn't making money either way.
Also, why the hell are they making a separate registry for this?
Money. Does anyone even use their cell phone regularly to access the internet(not email)? I've never really tried, just seems like something that would give me an anxiety attack.
9/2/2005 - I have blocked Zonk's stories from appearing on my Slashdot page because his stories are really dumb.
How the hell did you read this "story" then?
Note: I'm not defending Zonk's abilities as an editor at all.
It's a Zonk day.
Google should just make it so a search for ServersCheck returns nothing. What a bunch of assholes.