Nota Bene: I tested Beta 2 in "local mode" -- that is, instead of running the installer I unpacked it as a RAR archive and waved the usual dead chickens to make the executable run without believing it was the installed version. Google "ie7 local mode" for instructions.
That said, this is what I found.
1. The most awful CSS mistakes frequently pointed out on sites like positioniseverything are fixed. 2. The missing implementations like min/max-height are still missing. 3. The HTML mistakes like OBJECT and BUTTON are still screwed up: you can't use OBJECT in place of IMG despite it being the W3C spec for half a decade now.
As far as the renderer is concerned, all they seem to have done was fix a selected handful of CSS2 mistakes rather than build a full CSS2 spec.
I also experienced a series of incredible weirdnesses which may have been the result of running in local mode: SELECT menus refused to open when clicked, some triggered popup blocker warnings, and many pages without popups triggered popup blocker warnings as well. The "hovercraft" JS/behavior: trick which retrains IE6 to apply hover: to all HTML elements appears to cause problems with IE7 which already knows to do this.
"...we have audited our code and found it unable to satisfactorily reproduce these APIs to our developers' disappointment. Further testing will be necessary to bring our product in line with user expectations."
We're both right. GT is based on Jabber but GAIM's lead developer said in October:
I (Sean) have been hired by Google, moved to Seattle, and have been working on the Google Talk team for about a month and a half. The goal of Google Talk is to make real-time communication as open as possible, and in that regard, I've been working to offer all of Google Talk's features into other clients. Currently, I'm working on making it as easy as possible for other clients to use Google Talk's voice features. You can expect Gaim and other clients to be interoperable with Google Talk's voice features in the near future.
2 days ago he said:
Gaim 2.0.0 beta 2 does not include voice or video ("vv") support for any protocols. We've done some work toward vv compatibility for Google Talk, but it isn't ready for the general public yet. It is unlikely this will change for the final release of Gaim 2.0.0, but vv will be a primary focus for the next major release of Gaim after that.
Remember, Rob Enderle is also "an industry analyst" which usually means shill. When they work for an investment firm, it's Salomon all over again.
Google's got interesting technology, none of it theirs beyond the search engine. Maps? AJAX. Google Talk? GAIM. Have we seen any kind of clear synergy suggesting a stable, extensible platform? No.
What they *have* is a strong infrastructure for hosting and serving data and a hard-on for repeatedly proving their servers won't get borked by constant enterprise-level usage. That's impressive.
Passing themselves off as a media portal is another demonstration of how butch their server tech is, but the thing you tend to notice is that when their technology gets further from their servers and closer to your desktop, the more mediocre it gets.
All of this is subject to change. But for now, their signature is showing off what they can achieve with asynchronous relations between their servers and your browser. Everything else is hype: "Do no evil" withers in the face of Chinese grousing. Interoperability goes poof when rushing video to market.
It's all about the bandwidth with Google. Don't fool yourself otherwise.
Everything isn't about politics. Apple's management felt the public was ready for Intel Macs, and better they beta test the new platform in its most basic form, than try to do everything at once and guarantee embarrassing press if anything fails.
There will be power user desktop Intel Macs before there are power user laptops. This is entirely consistent with [insert computer manufacturer name here]'s history.
The actual sadness over losing a modem port is fax functionality. I regularly file claims with the managers of my medical flexible spending program, but to put this into context I'm faxing scans of physical documents which means a desktop box hooked to a flatbed scanner (a scenario less likely with laptops).
"[Aibo project manager] Tanaka Shigeda explained that Sony was refocusing their robotic IP on an alliance with San Marcos, CA-based fabrication firm Abyss Creations for an as-yet unnamed project code-named 'BestPromEver'."
AvantGo doesn't mod_deflate either. It server-side parses the HTML into a proprietary binary format for their portable readers.
As far as server-side *ML to *ML markup filtering is concerned, Betsie (the BBC's Perl accessibility parser) has been doing this since 1999. I've implemented it locally myself. It's a recursive regex toy no more sophisticated in principle than 1986's Encheferizer.
Considering how painfully orthodox Opera's developers are about W3C standards, microbrowsers that ignore CSS-based sites that accommodate media="handheld" perplex me.
Can we then reserve the right to consider our next action "accelerated oxidation of their physical resources coincident with carbon reclamation," rather than "burning their fucking headquarters to the ground with everyone locked inside"?
"Apples implementation of EFI allows software to modify the computers ability to boot - or NOT. "
Enough of this firmware is flash-based that software can trash it to the point that it no longer boots from optical media. Key-mashers need to understand that EFI *precedes* the Apple Option-key tricks, so if EFI is hung you are crap out of luck. Unless there's some jumper inside the case which resets EFI to a factory state, that EFI will have to be pulled and reflashed.
We're going to pretend Apple doesn't really release mistakes like this and that there's a failsafe for restoring the EFI. Otherwise, you potentially have the mother of all DRM traps in front of you.
1. Install Monsters Inc. Jr. Scream Team Training as administrator. 2. Log 5 year old daughter in as herself (no admin privs). 3. Run program. 4. Get "no disc" error. 5. Run program as admin user. 6. Get "no disc" error. 7. Log in administrator. 8. Game runs. 9. Uninstall game. 10. Log in as daughter. 11. Run installer as admin user. 12. Run program. 13. Get "no disc" error. 14. Run program as admin user. 15. Get "no disc" error. 16. Tell daughter she's adopted.
"...after seeing beakers explode and million-dollar equipment destroyed by idiots, we've also come to the conclusion that normal people aren't for science, either."
By "can't run OpenOffice," what do you mean? I'm running it on a G4 iBook.
1. Download, install fondu
2. Download, install OpenOffice2.0.0 developer beta for OSX
3. Profit!
Or just get the most recent NeoOffice which works as native Aqua instead of X11 and skip having to get fondu.
I can't really envision the words "Stallman" and "bathwater" together in a meaningful context.
Ketchup based mustard.
Joke.
...open source exploits for a commercial OS?
Joke, don't waste your mod points here.
Nota Bene: I tested Beta 2 in "local mode" -- that is, instead of running the installer I unpacked it as a RAR archive and waved the usual dead chickens to make the executable run without believing it was the installed version. Google "ie7 local mode" for instructions.
That said, this is what I found.
1. The most awful CSS mistakes frequently pointed out on sites like positioniseverything are fixed.
2. The missing implementations like min/max-height are still missing.
3. The HTML mistakes like OBJECT and BUTTON are still screwed up: you can't use OBJECT in place of IMG despite it being the W3C spec for half a decade now.
As far as the renderer is concerned, all they seem to have done was fix a selected handful of CSS2 mistakes rather than build a full CSS2 spec.
I also experienced a series of incredible weirdnesses which may have been the result of running in local mode: SELECT menus refused to open when clicked, some triggered popup blocker warnings, and many pages without popups triggered popup blocker warnings as well. The "hovercraft" JS/behavior: trick which retrains IE6 to apply hover: to all HTML elements appears to cause problems with IE7 which already knows to do this.
"...we have audited our code and found it unable to satisfactorily reproduce these APIs to our developers' disappointment. Further testing will be necessary to bring our product in line with user expectations."
Remember, Rob Enderle is also "an industry analyst" which usually means shill. When they work for an investment firm, it's Salomon all over again.
Google's got interesting technology, none of it theirs beyond the search engine. Maps? AJAX. Google Talk? GAIM. Have we seen any kind of clear synergy suggesting a stable, extensible platform? No.
What they *have* is a strong infrastructure for hosting and serving data and a hard-on for repeatedly proving their servers won't get borked by constant enterprise-level usage. That's impressive.
Passing themselves off as a media portal is another demonstration of how butch their server tech is, but the thing you tend to notice is that when their technology gets further from their servers and closer to your desktop, the more mediocre it gets.
All of this is subject to change. But for now, their signature is showing off what they can achieve with asynchronous relations between their servers and your browser. Everything else is hype: "Do no evil" withers in the face of Chinese grousing. Interoperability goes poof when rushing video to market.
It's all about the bandwidth with Google. Don't fool yourself otherwise.
Everything isn't about politics. Apple's management felt the public was ready for Intel Macs, and better they beta test the new platform in its most basic form, than try to do everything at once and guarantee embarrassing press if anything fails.
There will be power user desktop Intel Macs before there are power user laptops. This is entirely consistent with [insert computer manufacturer name here]'s history.
The actual sadness over losing a modem port is fax functionality. I regularly file claims with the managers of my medical flexible spending program, but to put this into context I'm faxing scans of physical documents which means a desktop box hooked to a flatbed scanner (a scenario less likely with laptops).
"[Aibo project manager] Tanaka Shigeda explained that Sony was refocusing their robotic IP on an alliance with San Marcos, CA-based fabrication firm Abyss Creations for an as-yet unnamed project code-named 'BestPromEver'."
As far as server-side *ML to *ML markup filtering is concerned, Betsie (the BBC's Perl accessibility parser) has been doing this since 1999. I've implemented it locally myself. It's a recursive regex toy no more sophisticated in principle than 1986's Encheferizer.
Considering how painfully orthodox Opera's developers are about W3C standards, microbrowsers that ignore CSS-based sites that accommodate media="handheld" perplex me.
Tom Cruise: I do!!
They have a platform that only exists in their imagination and they gold-farm in real life.
Uh, I thought that was how AvantGo worked, too. Not flamebait, just asking why this is considered amazing.
Can we then reserve the right to consider our next action "accelerated oxidation of their physical resources coincident with carbon reclamation," rather than "burning their fucking headquarters to the ground with everyone locked inside"?
...and he says she never loses suction, either.
Freeman must be spinning in his grave.
Ballmer Kong?
Isn't he Cmdr. Taco's ranking officer?
"Apples implementation of EFI allows software to modify the computers ability to boot - or NOT. "
Enough of this firmware is flash-based that software can trash it to the point that it no longer boots from optical media. Key-mashers need to understand that EFI *precedes* the Apple Option-key tricks, so if EFI is hung you are crap out of luck. Unless there's some jumper inside the case which resets EFI to a factory state, that EFI will have to be pulled and reflashed.
We're going to pretend Apple doesn't really release mistakes like this and that there's a failsafe for restoring the EFI. Otherwise, you potentially have the mother of all DRM traps in front of you.
1. Install Monsters Inc. Jr. Scream Team Training as administrator.
2. Log 5 year old daughter in as herself (no admin privs).
3. Run program.
4. Get "no disc" error.
5. Run program as admin user.
6. Get "no disc" error.
7. Log in administrator.
8. Game runs.
9. Uninstall game.
10. Log in as daughter.
11. Run installer as admin user.
12. Run program.
13. Get "no disc" error.
14. Run program as admin user.
15. Get "no disc" error.
16. Tell daughter she's adopted.
How is this substantially better than Launchcast or Pandora?
"...after seeing beakers explode and million-dollar equipment destroyed by idiots, we've also come to the conclusion that normal people aren't for science, either."
Selectively remove unneeded files from an archive? Sweet.
Because he's stiff as granite. Get it?
joke. waste your mod points elsewhere.