Really this seems to be a case of "the more you tighten your grip, the more will slip through your fingers".
"and now, Ur H1ghn3ss, we will discuss teh location of ur r3b3lz downloadz" given today's climate I'm sure they'll move from packet shaping to simulated waterboarding of your packets. (so I guess that's simulated simulated drowning...is that like a VM for torture?)
its kinda hard to get a fix on where you're from, you'll pardon my assuming nature, I won't make the same mistake again.
my question was a tongue-in-cheek remark about the state of human rights under the Bush Administration and how we can't be high and mighty about our "American values" these days. but perhaps you really are from another country and me English are confusting you're brians...
never before has a forum existed where anyone can say what they feel and have potentially everyone hear it. it is the ultimate soap box. the paradigm has shifted and I expect to see the politicians begin to address this more forcefully as time goes forward. the younger candidates get it (its NOT a series of tubes to them) and will make use of it, but I am not going to be surprised to see the older politicos condemn this new "heresy" and attempt to squelch it or regulate it to their liking. but this is the true nature, and great value, of a Neutral Network. for once in human history we have built a place where everyone is absolutely, truly free. if you like something, you can find it and find people who like it too. if you dislike something, you are free to either move on or bitch about it if you choose. this is what people in power really fear, that they can no longer tell you what to believe, what to do, how to do it, what you can see, what you can hear, and what you can say. expect to see our WonderfulWorldwideWeb come under attack, be ready to defend it. Viva la Information Revolution!
I find it interesting that the submitter brings up Kennedy and long range goals and visions. I've been pondering on this subject for some time now and it seems that America has lost its vision. We're trapped in a day-to-day shitfest wondering what celebrities are doing while waiting on our next paycheck to go buy some other piece of junk manufactured in said Red Country. What happened to dreaming of putting men in places they've never been and returning alive to tell the tale? Our government of today has paid the due lip service of "man on Mars....eventually", but where is the far vision? Why have we not heard something of this ilk: "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of reducing the percentage of energy we import and continuing that trend until such time as we are energy independent"? Or "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of balancing our budget and wisely investing surpluses in areas to maximize American potential in perpetuity." Werner von Braun thought we could have gone to Mars in the Eighties. Instead we're mucking around on planet Earth fighting a combat technique as if it were a thinking, independent entity. I want something to work towards, a dream to live. I don't want to go nine to five for forty years so I can plop my fat ass on the couch and watch the Britneys and Paris' of the future on my SuperTivo(tm). I want a country that's worth living in and living for. But maybe that's too much to ask...
the combat system is new (for FF) and takes a little getting used to but I like it alot better (it feels more fluid). the game looks amazing and the story line is interesting with just the right amount of characterization. I like the license system, too. I'm only about 20-25%(est., hopefully) in and I'm looking forward to the rest, but I still don't know if I can love it more than VI. *so far*, the characters in XII are not quite as interesting or endearing as VI's BUT there is some promise. Balthier is easily my favorite, with mystical Fran pulling a close second. I'm hoping that the further into the game I get the more inter-character drama there will be, the interplay in VI was what made it so awesome. In some ways FF really reminds me of Heroes the TV show, you have this unlikely group of people brought together by circumstance to accomplish a great task and along the way they deal with problems both personal and global and grow because of it.
That being said, Kefka is still the best FF villain. yeah, that's right, suck it Sephiroth! the only reason that Sephiroth might be more popular is because of CGI on the Playstation. if it weren't for that kickass sequence with the fire in Nibelheim you'd just be another "oh, I'm the tortured pawn of a greater power!" bad guy. Kefka was a stone-cold crazy motherfucker who wanted to rule everything and didn't give a damn who he had to kill to get it. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say he didn't give a damn, he *thoroughly* enjoyed offing anyone or anything even if they weren't in his way. Plus, there's the laugh. Sephy didn't have a laugh...;)
its kinda hit and miss, most normal sites work right, but it doesn't play youtube out-of-box (errr download). you'd think with it being a later build of Opera and supposedly including javascript and flash support it would work with almost any site but there are a few bugs. there were several sites that had login boxes that would pull up the keyboard then "crash" and reload the "home" site or reload the page after entering the username but not the password resulting in a error. however, we should expect some hiccups while they work on the "full" version using our feedback from the "trial". Viva la Wii!
P.S. When are we going to see WiiFox? and will it have to be on WiiLi?
I was having a great day till the thought of "the last videogame you'll ever play" jumped in. on the other hand, I better get on it before that brain cloud gets me...
make windows open-source and sell support for it, the user-base is already there, the software support is there and contrary to what alot of/. thinks, there are good ideas and features of Windows that could be further developed by the inclusion of a wider development audience. this may not be the cash cow that Microsoft is used to, but its better than dying off from a lack of creativity and vision. and maybe, just maybe, they'd get some of their more elusive projects out of the door (WinFS anyone?)
Google has passed into zeitgeist. Their success at doing their chosen job so well causes the very condition that they be intimately associated with that job. Search now equals "google" for all intents and purpose, such is the nature of language. As Jeremiah points out (who's three digit number is somewhat intimidating), its not the first time something like this has happened. They need to embrace this blessing bestowed on them by acceptance to humanity's vernacular. The better they do their job the more people are going to trust Google. They advocate an openness to information, perhaps they should be as open with their business practices.
I know that they are not persuing AI as such but my point was developing massive parallel systems will have additional benefits in understanding possible alternative methods for AI creation. The ability to construct artifical brains will undoubtably be useful for such.
Policeman:"Oy! You there! You come with me."
Joe Average:"What's the meaning of this?"
Policeman:"You aren't smiling enough. And under the Antisocial Management Law of 2006 the penalty is a 500 quid fine."
Joe Average:"That's insane! I smile all the time! And when did a law get passed on smiling?"
Policeman:"It was passed last week. You really should take more of an interest in these things. And I'm going to have to write you another ticket for defaming a police officer, lying, questioning a legislative act, and not taking an interest in public affairs, all antisocial."
Joe Average:"WHAT? I wasn't lying! I do smile alot! Maybe not as much as some, but I do smile. And since when is questioning a legislative act a criminal offense?"
Policeman:"Well that was outlawed in the Keep Your Nose Out of Government Programs Act. And by the way, terribly sorry, but I'm going to have to arrest you now."
Joe Average:"Whatever for?!?"
Policeman:"Continuing antisocial behavior by questioning a policeman's word, arguing in public, loitering with intent to harass, and continuing to not smile."
Joe Average:"Well its pretty hard to smile when you're being fined and arrested!"
Policeman:"Well I suppose that may be the case, but you'll have to take that up with the Magistrate. Come on now, off with you."
who else besides me thinks this one should have been obvious from the getgo? it makes no sense to try and build a single processor that could function similarly to a brain. by utilizing mulitple processors you also have the option to design different types of processors to work together similar to the various types of neurons found in biological systems. this will hopefully be a huge step forward in developing possible AI systems.
what kind of retarded terrorist uses a chat room that would seem likely to be an Islamic extremist hotspot? You'd think they would be smart enough to hang out in some AOL chat room like "Br1Tn3Y sP34Rz 1Z T3H 4WeSomiZ!!1 LOL!" Remember kids, sometimes you have to play dumb to be smart.
I believe the numbers speak for themselves.
The people who are informed on the actual capabilities and the ones who alot of the rest of the purchasing base look to for suggestions have spoken. Viva La Revolution! Wiiiiiiiiiiiii!!
I for one welcome our arm-flailing overlords!
Amen, its the argument I've made for years now. You can't stop the pirates, they are just as smart/smarter than the people designing the DRM. Time and time again DRM schemes have been cracked. Every new console is supposed to be "unhackable" and you'll never be able to play copied games. [BUZZ!]WRONG! All it takes is time and patience. I wrote my congressman about the broadcast flag informing him that it would do nothing to stop piracy but everything to harm the regular consumer. Greater control breeds less consumer confidence in both the manufacturer and the government that's supposed to protect them.
"I've said it before and I'll continue to say it, Google has BIG plans that everyone is not piecing together. Long story short, I expect to see Google linux sometime within two years (I'd wager this year). This distro will be intimately linked with the online side of Google for storage and software. This will mean that you can go from your PC at home to any webbrowser on the face of the planet and have all of your information as it would be on your own desktop. ALSO, there's a possiblity of seeing something like Sun has where you can have a desktop open with programs, web pages, and files and then go to another PC and have the same desktop open from either a webbrowser or a future version of Google desktop. What do you think all those mobile computing boxes and dark fiber are for? It's all to make Google local to everyone and very very fast. Wait and see.
dont forget the Google PC rumors with Walmart, I'm willing to bet that this will happen or something close to it and what we will see is a computer that boots in less than 30sec (a very stripped down and fast linux distro, perhaps on CF or equivalent) and then jumps onto a highspeed net connection to get on the Google network for software and files."
I will add that with stories like this and this it becomes apparent that Google may be close to a work-around to all that pesky net neutrality bullshit.
It plays well, has acceptable graphical capabilities, has a gimmick, and, most of all, its a helluva lot cheaper than the competitors. But its all going to hinge on the games. If they can make the Wiimote sing, the colors shine, and tickle your mind at the same time, then they have a fighting chance.
No one is going to use encryption from a communist country, end of story. They can try using a homegrown solution there but as the world ties closer together over time, they'll have to adopt more open standards or face the prospects of being incompatable.
That's what we've always done. It's only by forging into new territory that we are able to maintain our edge. Full steam ahead, I say! They're not talking about birthing a clone, they will let it develop along to the multicelluar stage then harvest the stem cells. And bottom line, I always look at it this way: Someone Is Going To Do It Sooner Or Later. If America wants to stay on top of the science pile, and if humanity wants to continue to thrive and make advances, then we *need* to do this. It is part of our natural curiosity to learn more about the world and ourselves and then use that knowledge in legitimate and helpful ways. Carpe diem!
Huh? That case has absolutely no bearing on what I said. That's about outlawing fictional child porn, not about selling pornography to kids.
I was refering to the fact that it was vague and *that* was the reason it was struck down.
This isn't about laziness, this is about making something illegal that cannot be meaningfully defined in a generic manner. How do you define what is obscene without deferring to public consensus?
Do you defer to public consensus when you decide what to think or value?
no one is forced to purchase violent video games, Straw man, I never said they were. and those kids dont get money out of thin air. So parents should have the choice between giving their kids the ability to buy violent games and forbidding them from having any money of their own?
First of all, I never accused you of saying that. Your strawman argument implied that the "knee-jerkers" supported the sale of hardcore porn to minors because they took issue with a crackpot pushing a vague, useless and dangerous piece of legislation. I countered that parents buy the games, the game systems, and the TVs. If they have a problem with a game, they shouldn't allow their children to purchase/rent it. Also, you never specified a game that "appeals to a morbid interest in violence AND is patently offensive to adult standards AND has no literary, artistic, political or scientific value". Let's talk vague, shall we? And the choice is NOT between giving them the game or not giving them money. It's between being responsible for what their children consume or having a laissez-faire attitude towards the little buggers. If you care enough to be concerned, then be concerned with them, not with the choices they have available. You can't control every choice they will be presented with in life and if you could then they would never have free-will or any choice whatsoever.
And legislation like this is a tool to enable that. With this legislation, parents have the choice as to whether their kids play violent games or not. Without this legislation, they do not have the choice.
No, no, NO! How do they not have the choice now? If they don't have control over their children's viewing/gaming habits then legislation will not fix that. The problem is parents not paying attention to what their children are doing.
If anything is amateurish, it's your reading comprehension. The fact that nobody is advocating selling hardcore porn to minors is precisely my point. Everything this bill does to control what people sell to kids is already being done in the case of pornography. This just applies the same logic to violent games.
Why don't you oppose laws against selling scat porn to kids? After all, according to you, it's the parents' responsibility to make sure their kids don't buy it. They don't get money from nowhere, right? Why do you have this double standard? Why is forbidding the sale of violent games to kids a symptom of a nanny state, but forbidding the sale of scat porn to kids right and proper?
You are right, nobody is advocating the legalisation of selling hardcore porn to kids. That was my point - if you genuinely believe what you are saying regarding this game legislation, you should.
and finally, I'll strawman back at you for that last section. So you think sex and violence are the same thing? Maybe you like a little strangulation with your girlfriend(or boyfriend, since you posted anonymously I can't tell, but maybe you can't either)? Get out of your black and white world view and accept the fact that shooting pixels with pixels is very different from graphic depictions of sexual content. Violence is inherent in society. Deal with it. It is impossible to watch the news and not see violence. It is also difficult to watch television today (including shows marketed to teens) and not see depictions of sexuality. So either pay attention to what your kids are doing or get rid of anything that could tempt them.
oh, and yes, I absolutely support the right of kids to get massive amounts of donkey porn. Good Day, sir.
this is getting a little insane. repeat after me, laptops are meant to go places, desktops are meant to have more power. I think things like this should be labeled "compact desktops".
Really this seems to be a case of "the more you tighten your grip, the more will slip through your fingers".
"and now, Ur H1ghn3ss, we will discuss teh location of ur r3b3lz downloadz"
given today's climate I'm sure they'll move from packet shaping to simulated waterboarding of your packets. (so I guess that's simulated simulated drowning...is that like a VM for torture?)
its kinda hard to get a fix on where you're from, you'll pardon my assuming nature, I won't make the same mistake again. my question was a tongue-in-cheek remark about the state of human rights under the Bush Administration and how we can't be high and mighty about our "American values" these days. but perhaps you really are from another country and me English are confusting you're brians...
never before has a forum existed where anyone can say what they feel and have potentially everyone hear it. it is the ultimate soap box. the paradigm has shifted and I expect to see the politicians begin to address this more forcefully as time goes forward. the younger candidates get it (its NOT a series of tubes to them) and will make use of it, but I am not going to be surprised to see the older politicos condemn this new "heresy" and attempt to squelch it or regulate it to their liking. but this is the true nature, and great value, of a Neutral Network. for once in human history we have built a place where everyone is absolutely, truly free. if you like something, you can find it and find people who like it too. if you dislike something, you are free to either move on or bitch about it if you choose. this is what people in power really fear, that they can no longer tell you what to believe, what to do, how to do it, what you can see, what you can hear, and what you can say. expect to see our WonderfulWorldwideWeb come under attack, be ready to defend it. Viva la Information Revolution!
I find it interesting that the submitter brings up Kennedy and long range goals and visions. I've been pondering on this subject for some time now and it seems that America has lost its vision. We're trapped in a day-to-day shitfest wondering what celebrities are doing while waiting on our next paycheck to go buy some other piece of junk manufactured in said Red Country. What happened to dreaming of putting men in places they've never been and returning alive to tell the tale? Our government of today has paid the due lip service of "man on Mars....eventually", but where is the far vision? Why have we not heard something of this ilk: "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of reducing the percentage of energy we import and continuing that trend until such time as we are energy independent"? Or "First, I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of balancing our budget and wisely investing surpluses in areas to maximize American potential in perpetuity." Werner von Braun thought we could have gone to Mars in the Eighties. Instead we're mucking around on planet Earth fighting a combat technique as if it were a thinking, independent entity. I want something to work towards, a dream to live. I don't want to go nine to five for forty years so I can plop my fat ass on the couch and watch the Britneys and Paris' of the future on my SuperTivo(tm). I want a country that's worth living in and living for. But maybe that's too much to ask...
are you talking about our government or theirs? I get confused these days...
the combat system is new (for FF) and takes a little getting used to but I like it alot better (it feels more fluid). the game looks amazing and the story line is interesting with just the right amount of characterization. I like the license system, too. I'm only about 20-25%(est., hopefully) in and I'm looking forward to the rest, but I still don't know if I can love it more than VI. *so far*, the characters in XII are not quite as interesting or endearing as VI's BUT there is some promise. Balthier is easily my favorite, with mystical Fran pulling a close second. I'm hoping that the further into the game I get the more inter-character drama there will be, the interplay in VI was what made it so awesome. In some ways FF really reminds me of Heroes the TV show, you have this unlikely group of people brought together by circumstance to accomplish a great task and along the way they deal with problems both personal and global and grow because of it.
;)
That being said, Kefka is still the best FF villain. yeah, that's right, suck it Sephiroth! the only reason that Sephiroth might be more popular is because of CGI on the Playstation. if it weren't for that kickass sequence with the fire in Nibelheim you'd just be another "oh, I'm the tortured pawn of a greater power!" bad guy. Kefka was a stone-cold crazy motherfucker who wanted to rule everything and didn't give a damn who he had to kill to get it. I'm sorry, I shouldn't say he didn't give a damn, he *thoroughly* enjoyed offing anyone or anything even if they weren't in his way. Plus, there's the laugh. Sephy didn't have a laugh...
its kinda hit and miss, most normal sites work right, but it doesn't play youtube out-of-box (errr download). you'd think with it being a later build of Opera and supposedly including javascript and flash support it would work with almost any site but there are a few bugs. there were several sites that had login boxes that would pull up the keyboard then "crash" and reload the "home" site or reload the page after entering the username but not the password resulting in a error. however, we should expect some hiccups while they work on the "full" version using our feedback from the "trial". Viva la Wii!
P.S. When are we going to see WiiFox? and will it have to be on WiiLi?
I was having a great day till the thought of "the last videogame you'll ever play" jumped in. on the other hand, I better get on it before that brain cloud gets me...
make windows open-source and sell support for it, the user-base is already there, the software support is there and contrary to what alot of /. thinks, there are good ideas and features of Windows that could be further developed by the inclusion of a wider development audience. this may not be the cash cow that Microsoft is used to, but its better than dying off from a lack of creativity and vision. and maybe, just maybe, they'd get some of their more elusive projects out of the door (WinFS anyone?)
I've lost faith in you CmdrTaco...
Google has passed into zeitgeist. Their success at doing their chosen job so well causes the very condition that they be intimately associated with that job. Search now equals "google" for all intents and purpose, such is the nature of language. As Jeremiah points out (who's three digit number is somewhat intimidating), its not the first time something like this has happened. They need to embrace this blessing bestowed on them by acceptance to humanity's vernacular. The better they do their job the more people are going to trust Google. They advocate an openness to information, perhaps they should be as open with their business practices.
No more squeaky sex!
I know that they are not persuing AI as such but my point was developing massive parallel systems will have additional benefits in understanding possible alternative methods for AI creation. The ability to construct artifical brains will undoubtably be useful for such.
Policeman:"Oy! You there! You come with me."
Joe Average:"What's the meaning of this?"
Policeman:"You aren't smiling enough. And under the Antisocial Management Law of 2006 the penalty is a 500 quid fine."
Joe Average:"That's insane! I smile all the time! And when did a law get passed on smiling?"
Policeman:"It was passed last week. You really should take more of an interest in these things. And I'm going to have to write you another ticket for defaming a police officer, lying, questioning a legislative act, and not taking an interest in public affairs, all antisocial."
Joe Average:"WHAT? I wasn't lying! I do smile alot! Maybe not as much as some, but I do smile. And since when is questioning a legislative act a criminal offense?"
Policeman:"Well that was outlawed in the Keep Your Nose Out of Government Programs Act. And by the way, terribly sorry, but I'm going to have to arrest you now."
Joe Average:"Whatever for?!?"
Policeman:"Continuing antisocial behavior by questioning a policeman's word, arguing in public, loitering with intent to harass, and continuing to not smile."
Joe Average:"Well its pretty hard to smile when you're being fined and arrested!"
Policeman:"Well I suppose that may be the case, but you'll have to take that up with the Magistrate. Come on now, off with you."
who else besides me thinks this one should have been obvious from the getgo? it makes no sense to try and build a single processor that could function similarly to a brain. by utilizing mulitple processors you also have the option to design different types of processors to work together similar to the various types of neurons found in biological systems. this will hopefully be a huge step forward in developing possible AI systems.
what kind of retarded terrorist uses a chat room that would seem likely to be an Islamic extremist hotspot? You'd think they would be smart enough to hang out in some AOL chat room like "Br1Tn3Y sP34Rz 1Z T3H 4WeSomiZ!!1 LOL!" Remember kids, sometimes you have to play dumb to be smart.
There is no need for a Nanny State, if anything we need more laws making parents responsible for their children.
I believe the numbers speak for themselves.
The people who are informed on the actual capabilities and the ones who alot of the rest of the purchasing base look to for suggestions have spoken. Viva La Revolution! Wiiiiiiiiiiiii!!
I for one welcome our arm-flailing overlords!
Amen, its the argument I've made for years now. You can't stop the pirates, they are just as smart/smarter than the people designing the DRM. Time and time again DRM schemes have been cracked. Every new console is supposed to be "unhackable" and you'll never be able to play copied games. [BUZZ!]WRONG! All it takes is time and patience. I wrote my congressman about the broadcast flag informing him that it would do nothing to stop piracy but everything to harm the regular consumer. Greater control breeds less consumer confidence in both the manufacturer and the government that's supposed to protect them.
"I've said it before and I'll continue to say it, Google has BIG plans that everyone is not piecing together. Long story short, I expect to see Google linux sometime within two years (I'd wager this year). This distro will be intimately linked with the online side of Google for storage and software. This will mean that you can go from your PC at home to any webbrowser on the face of the planet and have all of your information as it would be on your own desktop. ALSO, there's a possiblity of seeing something like Sun has where you can have a desktop open with programs, web pages, and files and then go to another PC and have the same desktop open from either a webbrowser or a future version of Google desktop. What do you think all those mobile computing boxes and dark fiber are for? It's all to make Google local to everyone and very very fast. Wait and see. dont forget the Google PC rumors with Walmart, I'm willing to bet that this will happen or something close to it and what we will see is a computer that boots in less than 30sec (a very stripped down and fast linux distro, perhaps on CF or equivalent) and then jumps onto a highspeed net connection to get on the Google network for software and files." I will add that with stories like this and this it becomes apparent that Google may be close to a work-around to all that pesky net neutrality bullshit.
It plays well, has acceptable graphical capabilities, has a gimmick, and, most of all, its a helluva lot cheaper than the competitors. But its all going to hinge on the games. If they can make the Wiimote sing, the colors shine, and tickle your mind at the same time, then they have a fighting chance.
No one is going to use encryption from a communist country, end of story. They can try using a homegrown solution there but as the world ties closer together over time, they'll have to adopt more open standards or face the prospects of being incompatable.
That's what we've always done. It's only by forging into new territory that we are able to maintain our edge. Full steam ahead, I say! They're not talking about birthing a clone, they will let it develop along to the multicelluar stage then harvest the stem cells. And bottom line, I always look at it this way: Someone Is Going To Do It Sooner Or Later. If America wants to stay on top of the science pile, and if humanity wants to continue to thrive and make advances, then we *need* to do this. It is part of our natural curiosity to learn more about the world and ourselves and then use that knowledge in legitimate and helpful ways. Carpe diem!
Huh? That case has absolutely no bearing on what I said. That's about outlawing fictional child porn, not about selling pornography to kids.
I was refering to the fact that it was vague and *that* was the reason it was struck down.
This isn't about laziness, this is about making something illegal that cannot be meaningfully defined in a generic manner. How do you define what is obscene without deferring to public consensus?
Do you defer to public consensus when you decide what to think or value?
no one is forced to purchase violent video games,
Straw man, I never said they were.
and those kids dont get money out of thin air.
So parents should have the choice between giving their kids the ability to buy violent games and forbidding them from having any money of their own?
First of all, I never accused you of saying that. Your strawman argument implied that the "knee-jerkers" supported the sale of hardcore porn to minors because they took issue with a crackpot pushing a vague, useless and dangerous piece of legislation. I countered that parents buy the games, the game systems, and the TVs. If they have a problem with a game, they shouldn't allow their children to purchase/rent it. Also, you never specified a game that "appeals to a morbid interest in violence AND is patently offensive to adult standards AND has no literary, artistic, political or scientific value". Let's talk vague, shall we? And the choice is NOT between giving them the game or not giving them money. It's between being responsible for what their children consume or having a laissez-faire attitude towards the little buggers. If you care enough to be concerned, then be concerned with them, not with the choices they have available. You can't control every choice they will be presented with in life and if you could then they would never have free-will or any choice whatsoever.
And legislation like this is a tool to enable that. With this legislation, parents have the choice as to whether their kids play violent games or not. Without this legislation, they do not have the choice.
No, no, NO! How do they not have the choice now? If they don't have control over their children's viewing/gaming habits then legislation will not fix that. The problem is parents not paying attention to what their children are doing.
If anything is amateurish, it's your reading comprehension. The fact that nobody is advocating selling hardcore porn to minors is precisely my point. Everything this bill does to control what people sell to kids is already being done in the case of pornography. This just applies the same logic to violent games.
Why don't you oppose laws against selling scat porn to kids? After all, according to you, it's the parents' responsibility to make sure their kids don't buy it. They don't get money from nowhere, right? Why do you have this double standard? Why is forbidding the sale of violent games to kids a symptom of a nanny state, but forbidding the sale of scat porn to kids right and proper?
You are right, nobody is advocating the legalisation of selling hardcore porn to kids. That was my point - if you genuinely believe what you are saying regarding this game legislation, you should.
and finally, I'll strawman back at you for that last section. So you think sex and violence are the same thing? Maybe you like a little strangulation with your girlfriend(or boyfriend, since you posted anonymously I can't tell, but maybe you can't either)? Get out of your black and white world view and accept the fact that shooting pixels with pixels is very different from graphic depictions of sexual content. Violence is inherent in society. Deal with it. It is impossible to watch the news and not see violence. It is also difficult to watch television today (including shows marketed to teens) and not see depictions of sexuality. So either pay attention to what your kids are doing or get rid of anything that could tempt them.
oh, and yes, I absolutely support the right of kids to get massive amounts of donkey porn. Good Day, sir.
this is getting a little insane. repeat after me, laptops are meant to go places, desktops are meant to have more power. I think things like this should be labeled "compact desktops".