If I don't buy a palm-sized AppleTV, Steve Jobs may crush me with it. Seriously, billion-dollar company and that's the best picture they'd allow?
Although in all honesty, why are we talking AppleTV? Mac mini's are a little more expensive, but that (+boxee) has been my awesome set-top box for over a year now.
-Matt
Boxee is way more powerful than whatever the Apple TV runs, but its interface is kinda shitty. I don't mean to knock it, because I'm using it too, but Apple would never release something like that. Also, a Mini is 7x more expensive than an Apple TV. If it was like $10 vs $70 that wouldn't be a big deal, but it's $100 vs $700. That's a pretty big chunk of change
What happens when the guy who lives next door to you makes a poor choice and you suffer for it? Like, maybe he decides not to pay his fire extortion (whoops... protection) bill and the fire at his house that could have been put out spreads to your house as a result? Maybe your wife dies before the fire department arrives. Or maybe you're lucky and it's just your dog. Are you still happy that he had the freedom to not pay?
Why is it always the "then don't use Apple devices" answer when people complain about Apple's restrictions on everything? Imagine the outcry here on Slashdot if Microsoft tried to ban every other browser than IE on Windows. Apple does that on iOS but suddenly it's ok since it's Apple.
Because very few people are forced to use Apple products, but plenty of people are forced to use MS products...
No, because this IS NOT APPLE'S APP STORE and therefore you can push whatever apps written in whatever language you like.
I guess that you and the guy you replied to both missed the mark entirely. This is not Apple's App Store, the iPhone SDK EULA doesn't apply here. Do you get it now? Need I bludgeon you with a LART until you do?
And before someone else hops on and tries to correct me again (and be wrong again by trying so), we're talking about an appstore for jailbroken iPhones. Please, read every single printable ASCII character in a posted story, not just the ones that your spin-doctor mind wants to see so that you can push your faulty and incorrect "facts". Fuck, the name of the story is An iPhone App Store That Apple Doesn't Control. I guess your backwards mind reads that as "An iPhone App Store That Apple Controls.
... I failed to get the 1-up and go down the pipe at the beginning of level 1-1 in Super Mario Brothers. Every time I played it. Seriously... I thought it was impossible until I saw someone do it.
How much is that worth?
This means that if your iPhone app is a pile of Perl scripts, you can push it. What iPhone SDK EULA? We don't know what C/C++/Objective-C limitation you're talking about, we'll list your app in our store! If you feel like writing an app for iPhone in C#, you can push it as a.NET exe in PE-COFF format, instead of having to compile it to native code. If you wanted to port Firefox Mobile and have it use it's own JavaScript engine, you can. You could even push a port of Chrome using V8.
Actually, I'm pretty sure nuclear power plants do operate on the knife's edge of profitability. They're also very heavily regulated. That's kind of why so few nuclear power plants are built.
You still miss my point. It's not what "you" perceive as right or wrong, but what society as a whole perceives as right or wrong that counts.
Do you seriously believe that "society as a whole" considers piracy to be immoral?
I don't know a single person over the age of 40 who hasn't pirated music. Society as a whole is pretty cool with music piracy. Maybe they'll feel differently about books, but I kind of doubt it.
Ghandi didn't base his opposition in dishonesty. He based it solely on, and his protests in, highly moral principles and actions. That's why his opposition worked. He had the moral high ground and he kept it. What's being promoted here immediately takes to the "morally challenged ground", to put it nicely, and gets worse from there. It won't, and can't, work.
Counterpoint: the RIAA gave up suing music pirates. It can and does work.
If you believe that e-books are locked-down, DRM-laden, and inferior to paperbacks -- and I agree with you on all 3 counts -- then why do you care what they cost? Just buy the paperback. That's what I'm going to do. Sure, they're a bit more expensive, but they're convenient, incredibly easy to use, and they look cool sitting on a shelf. I'm willing to pay a premium for that.
Only useful for certain types of books. When's the last time you've taken out a fiction book and flicked through it to find something in particular (apart from your bookmark)?
This happens to me a lot. For example, if a scene references an earlier piece of dialog, I often find myself wanting to re-read it in its original context. Maybe it's just because I'm a slow reader, but I think the ability to search is a pretty useful feature.
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If I don't buy a palm-sized AppleTV, Steve Jobs may crush me with it. Seriously, billion-dollar company and that's the best picture they'd allow?
Although in all honesty, why are we talking AppleTV? Mac mini's are a little more expensive, but that (+boxee) has been my awesome set-top box for over a year now.
-Matt
Boxee is way more powerful than whatever the Apple TV runs, but its interface is kinda shitty. I don't mean to knock it, because I'm using it too, but Apple would never release something like that. Also, a Mini is 7x more expensive than an Apple TV. If it was like $10 vs $70 that wouldn't be a big deal, but it's $100 vs $700. That's a pretty big chunk of change
What happens when the guy who lives next door to you makes a poor choice and you suffer for it? Like, maybe he decides not to pay his fire extortion (whoops... protection) bill and the fire at his house that could have been put out spreads to your house as a result? Maybe your wife dies before the fire department arrives. Or maybe you're lucky and it's just your dog. Are you still happy that he had the freedom to not pay?
the alt ruined it... just like xkcd
The term anti-semitism was coined -- and is still defined -- to mean "prejudice against Jews". True story.
ugh, I hate gingers
Seriously? Who moderates on this site? In what world is that post "insightful"? Where are my mod points? It deserves a -1 Ignorant
Why is it always the "then don't use Apple devices" answer when people complain about Apple's restrictions on everything? Imagine the outcry here on Slashdot if Microsoft tried to ban every other browser than IE on Windows. Apple does that on iOS but suddenly it's ok since it's Apple.
Because very few people are forced to use Apple products, but plenty of people are forced to use MS products...
insightful? really? I hate this site.
That was an awesome post. I look forward to your pointing out acronym-aided redundancies in the future.
Ugh. Who gave Yakov mod points? This "In Soviet Russia" shit needs to end.
Did you make your wife change her last name AND her first name when you married her? 'cause that right there is a deal breaker.
How is this offtopic? Is that just a stand in for "douchey"? I think flamebait is a better fit.
No, because this IS NOT APPLE'S APP STORE and therefore you can push whatever apps written in whatever language you like.
I guess that you and the guy you replied to both missed the mark entirely. This is not Apple's App Store, the iPhone SDK EULA doesn't apply here. Do you get it now? Need I bludgeon you with a LART until you do?
And before someone else hops on and tries to correct me again (and be wrong again by trying so), we're talking about an appstore for jailbroken iPhones. Please, read every single printable ASCII character in a posted story, not just the ones that your spin-doctor mind wants to see so that you can push your faulty and incorrect "facts". Fuck, the name of the story is An iPhone App Store That Apple Doesn't Control. I guess your backwards mind reads that as "An iPhone App Store That Apple Controls.
I'm pretty sure that none of this is true...
... I failed to get the 1-up and go down the pipe at the beginning of level 1-1 in Super Mario Brothers. Every time I played it. Seriously... I thought it was impossible until I saw someone do it. How much is that worth?
This means that if your iPhone app is a pile of Perl scripts, you can push it. What iPhone SDK EULA? We don't know what C/C++/Objective-C limitation you're talking about, we'll list your app in our store! If you feel like writing an app for iPhone in C#, you can push it as a .NET exe in PE-COFF format, instead of having to compile it to native code. If you wanted to port Firefox Mobile and have it use it's own JavaScript engine, you can. You could even push a port of Chrome using V8.
I'm pretty sure that none of this is true...
Prince... the artist you're thinking of is called Prince.
Well thanks for letting me know
Yeah, man... things are never gonna change. EVER. Thinking otherwise is so old-school ~
Actually, I'm pretty sure nuclear power plants do operate on the knife's edge of profitability. They're also very heavily regulated. That's kind of why so few nuclear power plants are built.
Hey, scientists! The Internet's Enigma23 is skeptical of your results! Back to the drawing board, nerds!
Considering that the last time he passed comment on an Apple handheld, his prediction was pretty lame
That horse has been dead for some time, cowboy.
I've actually considered buying an old 1st gen iPod on eBay... those things have to be considered "retro" by now, right?
You still miss my point. It's not what "you" perceive as right or wrong, but what society as a whole perceives as right or wrong that counts.
Do you seriously believe that "society as a whole" considers piracy to be immoral?
I don't know a single person over the age of 40 who hasn't pirated music. Society as a whole is pretty cool with music piracy. Maybe they'll feel differently about books, but I kind of doubt it.
Ghandi didn't base his opposition in dishonesty. He based it solely on, and his protests in, highly moral principles and actions. That's why his opposition worked. He had the moral high ground and he kept it. What's being promoted here immediately takes to the "morally challenged ground", to put it nicely, and gets worse from there. It won't, and can't, work.
Counterpoint: the RIAA gave up suing music pirates. It can and does work.
If you believe that e-books are locked-down, DRM-laden, and inferior to paperbacks -- and I agree with you on all 3 counts -- then why do you care what they cost? Just buy the paperback. That's what I'm going to do. Sure, they're a bit more expensive, but they're convenient, incredibly easy to use, and they look cool sitting on a shelf. I'm willing to pay a premium for that.
Only useful for certain types of books. When's the last time you've taken out a fiction book and flicked through it to find something in particular (apart from your bookmark)?
This happens to me a lot. For example, if a scene references an earlier piece of dialog, I often find myself wanting to re-read it in its original context. Maybe it's just because I'm a slow reader, but I think the ability to search is a pretty useful feature.