I should think that due to having a narrower range of frequencies and harmonics available to the listener, the brain would have to work harder to try to separate the instruments and all the stuff going on. The less information, the more mashed it all is, the harder it is to listen because it isn't just "music" anymore, its a workout. I can give an example of something like that making sense- Say someone has small speakers that only reproduce down to say 70hz, now if he or she upgrades to some that extend to 30, there is a ton more definition and information available- he or she will be able to easily hear the bass lines and all that going on down there, which makes it more enjoyable and easier, so yes that makes perfect sense.
I own plenty of 24/192 albums that are as good as it will ever get- digital is not the problem at all, the problem is everything around it.
#0- Nobody under 50 has heard music sound good, and those over it don't care anymore (so nobody has any idea what they are missing)
#1- Sh!tty speakers
#2- Sh!tty speakers
#3- Sh!tty speakers
#4- Horrible mastering that absolutely ruins music (eg: loudness war)
#5- Horrible mastering that absolutely ruins music (eg: loudness war)
#6- compressing to MP3 when disk space is free, there is 0 need for using an mp3
#7- EAX, Dolby prologic, all of that crap upmixing for surround
It all boils down to young people having absolutely no experience with quality when it comes to music or playback equipment, the industry pushing for cheaper when infact it is clear that the cheapening of music in all instances is destroying the industry, and they don't want to do a thing about it. I bet that 95% of college students are listening to music on either ipod earbuds, or logitech/creative computer speakers. They are all HORRIBLE. And about those double blind tests- well no wonder its hard to tell, the music is maximized or compressed to static already, the listening equipment is awful, so ya no wonder.
99% of under 25 are not buying cds or singles, they are downloading for free (or swapping via itunes in colleges). Those older than 25 are not buying cds because cds sound like sh!t because of compressed dynamics and digital clipping introduced as a result of the loudness wars. The audiophiles if you want to call them, I think of them more as those that still actually listen to music (as opposed to hear it like most people these days), are buying used 15 year old cd's for 50-150 bucks on ebay because you cannot buy a lot of it or what you can buy sounds worse than a cassette tape!
Every possible bad decision the studios could have made have been made. It is pathetic, there are mental defects in the organizations.
Oh... And lets review how we can get music today....if I wanted a cd I would have to pay lots for special shipping and wait days or weeks because there aren't any physical cd stores anymore... or I could pay the same or more for a sh!tty low quality mp3 most likely with DRM and no album art and nothing... or I could download any quality of any album with album art and everything for free this instant... Which route would one most likely take?
PATHETIC.
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it." I think that sums it up nicely. Oh and thats John Lennon.
Why are people going to records? Because on the average, due in part to the technical requirements of the format, the importance of engineers, often times the quality of the music, and a few more decent reasons, vinyl is preferred. It isn't that vinyl is inherently better sounding- a good sounding cd can sound better than vinyl sometimes, but there are so so few that do this that it can't compare. Vinyl is better because back when it was put out they had professionals perform the mastering and whatnot. Vinyl has its limitations to be sure, digital in any format (16/44 or higher), but the vinyl almost always sounds better because they knew what they were doing with the music. The warmth factor is important because a LOT of the recordings and mixing done years ago were made with the explicit intention of the producing being played through multiple layers of tube and other such warming/coloring gear. That is why digital sometimes sounds so lifeless by comparison- it is through the digital recording of music being given the "breath of life" that it can sound like vinyl to a degree. For anyone interested, check out Steve Hoffman's forums (stevehoffman.tv) for more info. People who listen to vinyl aren't crazy- people who have never listened to vinyl and somehow have to dig at it because they don't understand the other details are. Good day:)
good point, i was going to bring this up in my post. I bet the bubbles add a little instability from side to side as that is where the most give would be, but none from the bottom (thats why there will be no bubbling along the bottom of the hull);
Sounds a little like supercavitated torpedoes, where the bubbles minimize drag except in this case they aren't encasing the ship in air. What ever happened to supercavitation anyway? Was it actually ever used or extended beyond torpedoes?
no, that is why we have dynamic range... oh wait, its an ipod, an mp3, and you want to listen to it in the car. You can either run a normalizer, which makes it sound like absolute crap- kills the life out of the music, you can run replay gain on it to check for volume levels and spikes, or you can listen to music in a quiet room like you are supposed to!
nah. Google is making it. The others may not be able to compete in the future, but they will still be hanging in there. This current prosperity is the result of the ad based money making scheme and it will work for quite a while, if not until google has penetrated other non-traditional digital markets. TV will be huge, and google will defiantly get into it. The only bubble will be Microsoft's power, as it keeps slipping away for producing nothing. Vista will be far less important than it is being made out to be, and for that the old tech ways will waste away given the time.
Especially the indigo, so simple, looked awesome. They work, but 100 dollar brushed aluminum or 10 dollar cheapo plastic cases are not much to choose from.
are you guys kidding me? Can you not sense the sarcasm and disdain towards it? I guess next time I will just say something insipidly obvious next time- sheesh.
the beauty of fuel cells is that it stores energy and transfers it in a clean(er) fashion- the statement that it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from the environment is a misleading factor when one considers that you could use solar, wind, hydro, thermal, etc... to generate electricity, through electrolysis create hydrogen, and thus store and transport energy.
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Nailed it!
I should think that due to having a narrower range of frequencies and harmonics available to the listener, the brain would have to work harder to try to separate the instruments and all the stuff going on. The less information, the more mashed it all is, the harder it is to listen because it isn't just "music" anymore, its a workout. I can give an example of something like that making sense- Say someone has small speakers that only reproduce down to say 70hz, now if he or she upgrades to some that extend to 30, there is a ton more definition and information available- he or she will be able to easily hear the bass lines and all that going on down there, which makes it more enjoyable and easier, so yes that makes perfect sense.
I own plenty of 24/192 albums that are as good as it will ever get- digital is not the problem at all, the problem is everything around it. #0- Nobody under 50 has heard music sound good, and those over it don't care anymore (so nobody has any idea what they are missing) #1- Sh!tty speakers #2- Sh!tty speakers #3- Sh!tty speakers #4- Horrible mastering that absolutely ruins music (eg: loudness war) #5- Horrible mastering that absolutely ruins music (eg: loudness war) #6- compressing to MP3 when disk space is free, there is 0 need for using an mp3 #7- EAX, Dolby prologic, all of that crap upmixing for surround It all boils down to young people having absolutely no experience with quality when it comes to music or playback equipment, the industry pushing for cheaper when infact it is clear that the cheapening of music in all instances is destroying the industry, and they don't want to do a thing about it. I bet that 95% of college students are listening to music on either ipod earbuds, or logitech/creative computer speakers. They are all HORRIBLE. And about those double blind tests- well no wonder its hard to tell, the music is maximized or compressed to static already, the listening equipment is awful, so ya no wonder.
Nearly as costly as space, if I recall correctly- that magnet system costs a fortune to operate.
99% of under 25 are not buying cds or singles, they are downloading for free (or swapping via itunes in colleges). Those older than 25 are not buying cds because cds sound like sh!t because of compressed dynamics and digital clipping introduced as a result of the loudness wars. The audiophiles if you want to call them, I think of them more as those that still actually listen to music (as opposed to hear it like most people these days), are buying used 15 year old cd's for 50-150 bucks on ebay because you cannot buy a lot of it or what you can buy sounds worse than a cassette tape! Every possible bad decision the studios could have made have been made. It is pathetic, there are mental defects in the organizations. Oh... And lets review how we can get music today....if I wanted a cd I would have to pay lots for special shipping and wait days or weeks because there aren't any physical cd stores anymore... or I could pay the same or more for a sh!tty low quality mp3 most likely with DRM and no album art and nothing... or I could download any quality of any album with album art and everything for free this instant... Which route would one most likely take? PATHETIC.
oh snap, they got SLAMMED. Good thing they didn't get chastised or scolded.
AAhhh.... sc2- introducing a whole new generation to dropping out of college. Kekekeke
And we thought cancer was bad! Oh I know how to fix it, lets ban cigarettes outdoors!
thanks coward, now only if you had any confidence! :D
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it." I think that sums it up nicely. Oh and thats John Lennon.
Greed is the root of these problems- eliminate it and everyone will do better (including the ISPs!)
Why are people going to records? Because on the average, due in part to the technical requirements of the format, the importance of engineers, often times the quality of the music, and a few more decent reasons, vinyl is preferred. It isn't that vinyl is inherently better sounding- a good sounding cd can sound better than vinyl sometimes, but there are so so few that do this that it can't compare. Vinyl is better because back when it was put out they had professionals perform the mastering and whatnot. Vinyl has its limitations to be sure, digital in any format (16/44 or higher), but the vinyl almost always sounds better because they knew what they were doing with the music. The warmth factor is important because a LOT of the recordings and mixing done years ago were made with the explicit intention of the producing being played through multiple layers of tube and other such warming/coloring gear. That is why digital sometimes sounds so lifeless by comparison- it is through the digital recording of music being given the "breath of life" that it can sound like vinyl to a degree. For anyone interested, check out Steve Hoffman's forums (stevehoffman.tv) for more info. People who listen to vinyl aren't crazy- people who have never listened to vinyl and somehow have to dig at it because they don't understand the other details are. Good day :)
my house is sensitive infrastructure. When can I meet with a google technician?
good, no reason to have flashy html junk- especially in an environment that needs security!
good point, i was going to bring this up in my post. I bet the bubbles add a little instability from side to side as that is where the most give would be, but none from the bottom (thats why there will be no bubbling along the bottom of the hull);
Sounds a little like supercavitated torpedoes, where the bubbles minimize drag except in this case they aren't encasing the ship in air. What ever happened to supercavitation anyway? Was it actually ever used or extended beyond torpedoes?
Oh noes! Now we will have MPAA Air martials watching for dvd-screeners and cams.
no, that is why we have dynamic range... oh wait, its an ipod, an mp3, and you want to listen to it in the car. You can either run a normalizer, which makes it sound like absolute crap- kills the life out of the music, you can run replay gain on it to check for volume levels and spikes, or you can listen to music in a quiet room like you are supposed to!
nah. Google is making it. The others may not be able to compete in the future, but they will still be hanging in there. This current prosperity is the result of the ad based money making scheme and it will work for quite a while, if not until google has penetrated other non-traditional digital markets. TV will be huge, and google will defiantly get into it. The only bubble will be Microsoft's power, as it keeps slipping away for producing nothing. Vista will be far less important than it is being made out to be, and for that the old tech ways will waste away given the time.
there will be a new profession for doing taxes? I bet it would make a lot more money than fishing.
Especially the indigo, so simple, looked awesome. They work, but 100 dollar brushed aluminum or 10 dollar cheapo plastic cases are not much to choose from.
are you guys kidding me? Can you not sense the sarcasm and disdain towards it? I guess next time I will just say something insipidly obvious next time- sheesh.
If you have nothing to hide, then why are you complaining, citizen? Only the tourists have to worry! (they envy our freedom)
the beauty of fuel cells is that it stores energy and transfers it in a clean(er) fashion- the statement that it takes more energy to extract hydrogen from the environment is a misleading factor when one considers that you could use solar, wind, hydro, thermal, etc... to generate electricity, through electrolysis create hydrogen, and thus store and transport energy.
this will add yet another layer of craziness to simply making a website that works for everyone. Thanks standards for making our lives easy!