>Ironically, isn't it the opposite? Wouldn't it be disrespectful of the user to NOT trust them with admin privs?
no, it's disrespectful for MS to not require explicit permission to make a fundamental change to the way the OS works. it's especially ridiculous and disrespectful for MS to have such a broken permissions policy that in reality pretty much every home user is forced to run as an administrator in the first place.
on a Mac, for example, this could not happen without the administrator password. some people make the claim that people would just get used to typing their password and nothing would really change, but this is only because MS's permissions policy is so broken that people wouldn't be surprised that playing a CD required an admin password.
>your solution is not to... not buy my hotdogs anymore
yes, because at the end of the day the only thing that will make Sony/MS/whoever change is if people stop buying their products. legal fines are just the cost of doing business, and U.S. courts have shown repeatedly that they aren't prepared to punish businesses properly. everyone who takes part in this particular class action will just end up with yet more Sony products.
solution: never buy another Sony product for doing what they did, and never buy another MS product for enabling them to do it. most people aren't focusing any of the blame on MS, but imo they should since this is exactly the sort of thing people have warned MS's crap security and disrespect of the user would lead to.
but are you really prepared to make the effort necessary to prevent this happening again?
most people aren't bothered enough, and I didn't buy Sony/MS before this happened anyway, so can hardly claim I'm doing much either.
if you're seriously worried about accidentally signing into the Apple store, activating 1-click purchasing, configuring a PowerMac, ordering it, and not cancelling the order... then just step away from your internets now and seek medical attention.
yet another "oh noes fear teh technology" post. get a clue.
you should worry more about employees being so bored they don't even check your details than being so enthusiastic they'll break the encryption and/or modify hardware to steal a number they could get just by opening their eyes (and all the time working under a false identity to avoid being traced).
they'll have to update their anti-iPod propaganda since their main reason for snubbing the world's favourite media player has now been addressed - yes, the iPod does have a stopwatch.
wow, someone copied my post format, and it only took 3 posts. I think it works better as a single-line post, but it's in the wild now and free to evolve beyond my design.
my initial posts in the format got modded up to +5 Funny, but evidently some admin got pissed off by them and banned by IP.
I am not anti-Christian, I very much like some Christian values. I am an atheist and I am anti-fundamentalist. it pisses me off when people feel so strongly about the trivial things like the number of days it took for the Earth to form or the morality of masturbation that they completely ignore the big rules like love thy neighbour.
you want to talk BS about different levels of reality that's fine but go ask a creationist to agree it's all just a metaphor in some higher platonic dimension and they'll tell you to fuck off. similarly Catholic beliefs require you to believe you are actually eating Jesus's flesh. you can try wording it as fancy as you want, as religious scholars have tried without success, but at the end of the day you still come down to a choice of whether the Earth is a few thousand years old or not, and whether the bread is now actually Jesus's flesh or not, and you can't be a good creationist/Catholic if your answer is "well, not really, but..."
the whole point of being a Catholic is that you believe they are NOT metaphors - if you want to believe they are metaphors you're welcome to be a Protestant but won't get much support from Catholics.
heading OT but I thought I'd add this: I consider Catholicism to be "fundamentalist" too, since it requires, among othher things, that you believe in
1. trinity: 1==3 2. transubstantiation: eat/drink the ACTUAL flesh and blood of Jesus
neither of these make sense on any level (not even to religious scholars) and can only be accepted by the same type of thought that also leads to creationism.
note to anyone who wants to discuss evolution's correctness: if you don't know what this post's subject means, go home now before you waste everyone's time.
I'm not saying revolution, I'd settle for just *one* out of over 250 million Americans deciding to take a sniper rifle to some politicians pushing this BS.
... I'd prefer it if they went with Safari's blue rectangle with "RSS" written in white on it.
The "cone of spherically propagating waves" design is so overused (and mostly associated with wireless networking) and has nothing to do with RSS feeds to me.
Maybe MS got tired of copying Apple and decided to Think Different for once;-)
>Your constitution allows for a peoples uprising against an oppresive government correct?
it pisses me off how much Americans use this as a justification for gun ownership, yet seemingly not one of them has the balls to actually do anything about their painfully corrupt government.
>When you're talking about market share then Linux is unfortunately just a blip and BSD even smaller
yes, but market share isn't such a useful metric. GWB and Tony Blair are just "blips" when talking about the human race, but they sure do fuck things up more than their fair share.
similarly, people who use Mac/Linux/BSD because of their technical/aesthetic qualities aren't about to be converted to Windows by peer pressure.
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>Ironically, isn't it the opposite? Wouldn't it be disrespectful of the user to NOT trust them with admin privs?
no, it's disrespectful for MS to not require explicit permission to make a fundamental change to the way the OS works. it's especially ridiculous and disrespectful for MS to have such a broken permissions policy that in reality pretty much every home user is forced to run as an administrator in the first place.
on a Mac, for example, this could not happen without the administrator password. some people make the claim that people would just get used to typing their password and nothing would really change, but this is only because MS's permissions policy is so broken that people wouldn't be surprised that playing a CD required an admin password.
>your solution is not to... not buy my hotdogs anymore
yes, because at the end of the day the only thing that will make Sony/MS/whoever change is if people stop buying their products. legal fines are just the cost of doing business, and U.S. courts have shown repeatedly that they aren't prepared to punish businesses properly. everyone who takes part in this particular class action will just end up with yet more Sony products.
solution: never buy another Sony product for doing what they did, and never buy another MS product for enabling them to do it. most people aren't focusing any of the blame on MS, but imo they should since this is exactly the sort of thing people have warned MS's crap security and disrespect of the user would lead to.
but are you really prepared to make the effort necessary to prevent this happening again?
most people aren't bothered enough, and I didn't buy Sony/MS before this happened anyway, so can hardly claim I'm doing much either.
when no "official people" are homeless, the problem of homelessness is officially solved
if you're seriously worried about accidentally signing into the Apple store, activating 1-click purchasing, configuring a PowerMac, ordering it, and not cancelling the order... then just step away from your internets now and seek medical attention.
the hardest part of credit card fraud is not getting credit card numbers.
yet another "oh noes fear teh technology" post. get a clue.
you should worry more about employees being so bored they don't even check your details than being so enthusiastic they'll break the encryption and/or modify hardware to steal a number they could get just by opening their eyes (and all the time working under a false identity to avoid being traced).
Microsoft is a monopoly, the court case is over, what they're doing is illegal and it is unethical. It's business. Get over it.
lol
everyone shut up, you're all equally crap compared to mac
to Shut Down: Menu -> Shut Down
to Restart: Menu -> Restart
and that's it. simple.
go ahead, take naming advice from "XYZ Computing", ffs.
they'll have to update their anti-iPod propaganda since their main reason for snubbing the world's favourite media player has now been addressed - yes, the iPod does have a stopwatch.
wow, someone copied my post format, and it only took 3 posts. I think it works better as a single-line post, but it's in the wild now and free to evolve beyond my design.
my initial posts in the format got modded up to +5 Funny, but evidently some admin got pissed off by them and banned by IP.
While we're on the subject of being pedantic, I'd like to point out that there is no 'pedanticism', whether you're GWB or not.
I am not anti-Christian, I very much like some Christian values. I am an atheist and I am anti-fundamentalist. it pisses me off when people feel so strongly about the trivial things like the number of days it took for the Earth to form or the morality of masturbation that they completely ignore the big rules like love thy neighbour.
you want to talk BS about different levels of reality that's fine but go ask a creationist to agree it's all just a metaphor in some higher platonic dimension and they'll tell you to fuck off. similarly Catholic beliefs require you to believe you are actually eating Jesus's flesh. you can try wording it as fancy as you want, as religious scholars have tried without success, but at the end of the day you still come down to a choice of whether the Earth is a few thousand years old or not, and whether the bread is now actually Jesus's flesh or not, and you can't be a good creationist/Catholic if your answer is "well, not really, but..."
the whole point of being a Catholic is that you believe they are NOT metaphors - if you want to believe they are metaphors you're welcome to be a Protestant but won't get much support from Catholics.
heading OT but I thought I'd add this: I consider Catholicism to be "fundamentalist" too, since it requires, among othher things, that you believe in
1. trinity: 1==3
2. transubstantiation: eat/drink the ACTUAL flesh and blood of Jesus
neither of these make sense on any level (not even to religious scholars) and can only be accepted by the same type of thought that also leads to creationism.
note to anyone who wants to discuss evolution's correctness: if you don't know what this post's subject means, go home now before you waste everyone's time.
I'm not saying revolution, I'd settle for just *one* out of over 250 million Americans deciding to take a sniper rifle to some politicians pushing this BS.
... I'd prefer it if they went with Safari's blue rectangle with "RSS" written in white on it.
;-)
The "cone of spherically propagating waves" design is so overused (and mostly associated with wireless networking) and has nothing to do with RSS feeds to me.
Maybe MS got tired of copying Apple and decided to Think Different for once
>Your constitution allows for a peoples uprising against an oppresive government correct?
it pisses me off how much Americans use this as a justification for gun ownership, yet seemingly not one of them has the balls to actually do anything about their painfully corrupt government.
use them or lose them.
>I know I'm above average
most people are
you made those last two up!
>When you're talking about market share then Linux is unfortunately just a blip and BSD even smaller
yes, but market share isn't such a useful metric. GWB and Tony Blair are just "blips" when talking about the human race, but they sure do fuck things up more than their fair share.
similarly, people who use Mac/Linux/BSD because of their technical/aesthetic qualities aren't about to be converted to Windows by peer pressure.
are you suggesting the entire controller design is a hoax, including all the journalists who have tried demos on it?