he started by saying evolution doesn't say where matter came from and concluded the existence of matter was evidence for God. in between he ranted a bit about an "unmoved mover" so maybe it was more first cause than ontological but he was trying to define God into existence.
Dawkins didn't want to talk about free will. I don't blame him. it was a 15 min interview about religion. plus, the entire context in which it was brought up was irrelevant. first of all, science is not completely deterministic so he was flat wrong. second, if there's no true free will and therefore no objective morality then so what? I don't care about an absolute objective morality anyway.
Yes, in many ways it really is absolutely abhorrent. But I don't care what do with your life so long as you don't hurt anyone else. Most Christians don't follow the Bible or Jesus too closely. They are culturally religious but fortunately most get their morals from modern society and ideas.
>If you said "all blacks are criminals, they should go back to Africa", or "homosexuals are girly, they should all just be straight like me" you'd have everyone on your back, berating you for your insensitivity. It's the same thing with theists.
You Christians go around saying we're all horrible sinners and need to beg for forgiveness lest we suffer eternal torture. Don't you get it!? You ARE the racist in your example. You ARE the homophobe.
Show some respect yourself. Don't dare say the words "sin" or "hell" in polite conversation ever again. They are incredibly offensive to rational people.
>only an ignorant person could claim that Christianity has no redeeming qualities
and only an ignorant person would think this constitutes a valid point whereas it can in fact be said of almost anything. Christianity has no *unique* redeeming qualities, but it certainly has horrors it can claim full responsibility for.
>I'm sorry that atheists and non-Christians have been labeled as evil and worthy of Hell.
those are Jesus's words. so you worship a God but think you know the rules better than even he does? or do you just not trust the Bible as a source of Jesus's teachings, in which case where DO you get your info about Jesus from?
"moderates" like yourself like to put distance between you and "extremists", but in many cases that distance is zero. even moderates can express ideas offensive to rational people. for example, you don't believe I should go directly to hell just for being an atheist. well thank you very much for your generosity (Jesus isn't so generous, nor many Christians), but the very idea of hell itself is offensive. there is no one in the world who deserves to go to hell as far as I'm concerned. even Hitler should not go - 10 million life sentences in jail would be the moral and humane response, not torture for eternity. the idea of hell is disgusting, and there is not a shred of evidence or logic to say it even exists.
if you can love a God who allows hell to exist at all (even for Hitler), then to a rational person you ARE an extremist.
why absurd? It's the exact same principle of artificial being indistinguishable from natural. Just because one concerns intelligence doesn't mean the other one does.
the core of the Sun is more like 15 million degrees.
the coronal heating problem simply means the mechanism responsible for the increased temperature is a non-equilibrium process. the corona is also a near-vacuum so despite its high temperature there is relatively tiny amount of energy there.
>Last I checked, my Bible didn't say to wage jihad against the infidels.
You must have the pop-up version for kids.
Last I checked, waging a jihad against the infidels was one of the first things Moses did:
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel. And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
the KKK was also a Christian organisation. and they didn't stop their bullying and murder because we showed respect for their beliefs, they stopped because decent people got together and demanded they stop.
religious people made claims about the nature of the soul. these were proven wrong.
sensible people accept the ideas were wrong. fools like you move the goalposts - claim the soul still exists, it's just completely different from what we first thought of and has a special way about it so that you can never actually detect it so stop trying and just accept what you're told!
the priest confesses his sins to another priest, is forgiven, and goes to heaven.
the Catholic church has officially forgiven the raped children for seducing priests, but whether they get to go to heaven depends on whether they snitched on the priest before or after the priest confessed to another priest. if it was after, then by discussing the issue the child has disrespected the sanctity of catholic confession and goes to hell.
>No, that's not the problem. Cloned people have souls - look at twins, for instance.
proof?
how about no one has a soul. fits all the evidence a lot better (yes, there have been experiments to detect a soul) and bypasses Catholicism's twin problem altogether.
I guess that since Catholics have no problem believing 1=3 when it comes to the number of gods, then 1=2 for the number of souls for twins is easy.
the SDK is being released in Feb and is believed to coincide with a 16GB iPhone. the 3G model was also announced for this year though not necessarily this update.
a new model should be coming out in a matter of weeks.
if you've made your mind up to buy now, fine, but don't bitch when the new ones comes out "zomg Apple hates customers I had teh no ideas things didn't not change!!!1" like so many others do.
>Just because your job doesn't require intercontinental travel doesn't mean that is true for all of the rest of us.
I do travel; nationally, internationally and intercontinentally. never interhemispherically though:(. strictly speaking, I'm not REQUIRED to, but it's a great aspect of my job and makes things easier overall.
I take my laptop with me. 4-5 hours battery life. don't bother with spares. never had a seat with a plug because, but never tried to get one. still alive to tell the tale.
just because you have poor planning or coping skills doesn't mean the rest of us feel doomed by the prospect of some limitations to our laptop use. do you know, there was once a time when people didn't have laptops AT ALL!!!!
>Yeah, and it takes 5 business days. How many people can survive without a computer for that?
excluding other causes of death such as starvation and accidents, roughly 100%.
are you saying that the only reason you're alive is that so far your computer hasn't suffered some unexpected failure? at least the battery losing charge is a continuous and predictable process.
>I'd much rather have a slightly larger laptop (like a thinkpad X61) with the oversized battery giving 10 hours of juice and keep the original 5 hour battery in my bag for emergencies.
guess it sucks for you that Jobs is holding a gun to your head to buy an Air then isn't it. oh, wait...
on the battery life quote of 5 hours: this is different from other quotes. it is not a maximum, but a "productive" quote. Jobs pointed out that this is with wireless services turned on and not the usual turn-everything-off maximum life quote.
>Even an external USB battery expander would defeat the purpose of an ultraportable- it'd be a little awkward to have a brick sticking out of the side of your sleek sexy ultra thin Air.
in that case, surely having a swapable battery would also defeat the point as you'd be carrying another battery with you everywhere.
I genuinely can't understand the mentality of all these people who claim to be constantly going on 10+ hour flights with no access power sockets and want an ultraportable laptop but also want to carry the weight of several spare batteries.
post screenshots of your airline tickets or you're all a bunch of whining fucking liars.
personally, I don't care about swapping batteries because I never want to carry a spare with me anyway. if a slimmer design means having to visit a store in person every 2 years or so to have it changed, then get over it or buy a different laptop.
>So if you like the song and you like the video, you need to buy them separately, even though the song is part of the video.
why? you can play video files in the same playlist as audio files. on an ipod, if you access a video through "music" and not "videos", you only hear the music. don't think it helps with CD burning though.
if you want to get more out of AirTunes have a look at a program called Airfoil.
seems like most of the iTunes problems are because of the need to interact with the music industry. I think Apple have done an amazing job to just get them to accept most of us are not living in the 1980s any more. think what things would be like without iTunes and the iPod; the only other company powerful enough to make it happen is MS, and I think it would be 1000 times worse with them at the helm.
it annoys me that the vast majority of "problems" people have with Macs are in fact non-existent. they are just too ignorant.
which is fair enough if they've only had Windows experience so far. but so many seem in such a hurry to scream and rant. if they just took the time to learn the "Mac" way of doing things or asked questions rather than bitching it would be better.
when I got my first Mac I loved learning all the new things. I'd think "it would be great if I could do..." then spent some time searching. more often than not it was there. maybe not "obvious", but powerful nonetheless if you put a little effort in, e.g. there's no reason why Apple-Shift-4 should save a copy of a selected screen area as a file on the Desktop, but it does, and it rules.
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he started by saying evolution doesn't say where matter came from and concluded the existence of matter was evidence for God. in between he ranted a bit about an "unmoved mover" so maybe it was more first cause than ontological but he was trying to define God into existence.
Dawkins didn't want to talk about free will. I don't blame him. it was a 15 min interview about religion. plus, the entire context in which it was brought up was irrelevant. first of all, science is not completely deterministic so he was flat wrong. second, if there's no true free will and therefore no objective morality then so what? I don't care about an absolute objective morality anyway.
I've started listening to the linked mp3 (thanks for that). the guy opposing Dawkins is a joke.
the god of the gaps and the same old ontological BS. you agree with him!? are you a first year?
>Is Christianity such a horrible idea?
Yes, in many ways it really is absolutely abhorrent. But I don't care what do with your life so long as you don't hurt anyone else. Most Christians don't follow the Bible or Jesus too closely. They are culturally religious but fortunately most get their morals from modern society and ideas.
>If you said "all blacks are criminals, they should go back to Africa", or "homosexuals are girly, they should all just be straight like me" you'd have everyone on your back, berating you for your insensitivity. It's the same thing with theists.
You Christians go around saying we're all horrible sinners and need to beg for forgiveness lest we suffer eternal torture. Don't you get it!? You ARE the racist in your example. You ARE the homophobe.
Show some respect yourself. Don't dare say the words "sin" or "hell" in polite conversation ever again. They are incredibly offensive to rational people.
>As a Philosophy undergrad,
sure you don't mean as a catholic?
>only an ignorant person could claim that Christianity has no redeeming qualities
and only an ignorant person would think this constitutes a valid point whereas it can in fact be said of almost anything. Christianity has no *unique* redeeming qualities, but it certainly has horrors it can claim full responsibility for.
>I'm sorry that atheists and non-Christians have been labeled as evil and worthy of Hell.
those are Jesus's words. so you worship a God but think you know the rules better than even he does? or do you just not trust the Bible as a source of Jesus's teachings, in which case where DO you get your info about Jesus from?
"moderates" like yourself like to put distance between you and "extremists", but in many cases that distance is zero. even moderates can express ideas offensive to rational people. for example, you don't believe I should go directly to hell just for being an atheist. well thank you very much for your generosity (Jesus isn't so generous, nor many Christians), but the very idea of hell itself is offensive. there is no one in the world who deserves to go to hell as far as I'm concerned. even Hitler should not go - 10 million life sentences in jail would be the moral and humane response, not torture for eternity. the idea of hell is disgusting, and there is not a shred of evidence or logic to say it even exists.
if you can love a God who allows hell to exist at all (even for Hitler), then to a rational person you ARE an extremist.
why absurd? It's the exact same principle of artificial being indistinguishable from natural. Just because one concerns intelligence doesn't mean the other one does.
>Personally as a certified Free software I'm rubbing my hands & looking forward to the Linux types
AIs are posting on slashdot!? better than nuking us I s'pose...
the core of the Sun is more like 15 million degrees.
the coronal heating problem simply means the mechanism responsible for the increased temperature is a non-equilibrium process. the corona is also a near-vacuum so despite its high temperature there is relatively tiny amount of energy there.
>Last I checked, my Bible didn't say to wage jihad against the infidels.
... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
You must have the pop-up version for kids.
Last I checked, waging a jihad against the infidels was one of the first things Moses did:
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel. And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
the KKK was also a Christian organisation. and they didn't stop their bullying and murder because we showed respect for their beliefs, they stopped because decent people got together and demanded they stop.
appeasement does not work. see WW2 for details.
religious people made claims about the nature of the soul. these were proven wrong.
sensible people accept the ideas were wrong. fools like you move the goalposts - claim the soul still exists, it's just completely different from what we first thought of and has a special way about it so that you can never actually detect it so stop trying and just accept what you're told!
the priest confesses his sins to another priest, is forgiven, and goes to heaven.
the Catholic church has officially forgiven the raped children for seducing priests, but whether they get to go to heaven depends on whether they snitched on the priest before or after the priest confessed to another priest. if it was after, then by discussing the issue the child has disrespected the sanctity of catholic confession and goes to hell.
>No, that's not the problem. Cloned people have souls - look at twins, for instance.
proof?
how about no one has a soul. fits all the evidence a lot better (yes, there have been experiments to detect a soul) and bypasses Catholicism's twin problem altogether.
I guess that since Catholics have no problem believing 1=3 when it comes to the number of gods, then 1=2 for the number of souls for twins is easy.
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone
http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone+16gb+february
the SDK is being released in Feb and is believed to coincide with a 16GB iPhone. the 3G model was also announced for this year though not necessarily this update.
a new model should be coming out in a matter of weeks.
if you've made your mind up to buy now, fine, but don't bitch when the new ones comes out "zomg Apple hates customers I had teh no ideas things didn't not change!!!1" like so many others do.
that game's out already: Scarface
>For game criticism of a more literary caliber there's no real source that I know of.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation
>Its quite another to tell people that something is terrible and they shouldn't buy it.
I KNOW, THIS IS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF GAME REVIEWERS
omg am I just missing the sarcasm because I'm tired and drunk or is this post insane?
>Just because your job doesn't require intercontinental travel doesn't mean that is true for all of the rest of us.
:(. strictly speaking, I'm not REQUIRED to, but it's a great aspect of my job and makes things easier overall.
I do travel; nationally, internationally and intercontinentally. never interhemispherically though
I take my laptop with me. 4-5 hours battery life. don't bother with spares. never had a seat with a plug because, but never tried to get one. still alive to tell the tale.
just because you have poor planning or coping skills doesn't mean the rest of us feel doomed by the prospect of some limitations to our laptop use. do you know, there was once a time when people didn't have laptops AT ALL!!!!
>Yeah, and it takes 5 business days. How many people can survive without a computer for that?
excluding other causes of death such as starvation and accidents, roughly 100%.
are you saying that the only reason you're alive is that so far your computer hasn't suffered some unexpected failure? at least the battery losing charge is a continuous and predictable process.
>I'd much rather have a slightly larger laptop (like a thinkpad X61) with the oversized battery giving 10 hours of juice and keep the original 5 hour battery in my bag for emergencies.
guess it sucks for you that Jobs is holding a gun to your head to buy an Air then isn't it. oh, wait...
on the battery life quote of 5 hours: this is different from other quotes. it is not a maximum, but a "productive" quote. Jobs pointed out that this is with wireless services turned on and not the usual turn-everything-off maximum life quote.
>Even an external USB battery expander would defeat the purpose of an ultraportable- it'd be a little awkward to have a brick sticking out of the side of your sleek sexy ultra thin Air.
in that case, surely having a swapable battery would also defeat the point as you'd be carrying another battery with you everywhere.
I genuinely can't understand the mentality of all these people who claim to be constantly going on 10+ hour flights with no access power sockets and want an ultraportable laptop but also want to carry the weight of several spare batteries.
post screenshots of your airline tickets or you're all a bunch of whining fucking liars.
personally, I don't care about swapping batteries because I never want to carry a spare with me anyway. if a slimmer design means having to visit a store in person every 2 years or so to have it changed, then get over it or buy a different laptop.
>So if you like the song and you like the video, you need to buy them separately, even though the song is part of the video.
why? you can play video files in the same playlist as audio files. on an ipod, if you access a video through "music" and not "videos", you only hear the music. don't think it helps with CD burning though.
if you want to get more out of AirTunes have a look at a program called Airfoil.
seems like most of the iTunes problems are because of the need to interact with the music industry. I think Apple have done an amazing job to just get them to accept most of us are not living in the 1980s any more. think what things would be like without iTunes and the iPod; the only other company powerful enough to make it happen is MS, and I think it would be 1000 times worse with them at the helm.
it annoys me that the vast majority of "problems" people have with Macs are in fact non-existent. they are just too ignorant.
which is fair enough if they've only had Windows experience so far. but so many seem in such a hurry to scream and rant. if they just took the time to learn the "Mac" way of doing things or asked questions rather than bitching it would be better.
when I got my first Mac I loved learning all the new things. I'd think "it would be great if I could do..." then spent some time searching. more often than not it was there. maybe not "obvious", but powerful nonetheless if you put a little effort in, e.g. there's no reason why Apple-Shift-4 should save a copy of a selected screen area as a file on the Desktop, but it does, and it rules.