how the hell do you figure that? the price INCLUDES the 2-year contract. so what's that extra $100 you find so objectionable spread over 2 years? 14 cents a day?
have you seen the tech this thing has! but 14 cents a day is a deal-breaker for you.
what part of "AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has been working on OS-level integration of an geographical mapping technology as an integral part of Leopard, its next-generation OS" didn't already make your point?
oh I see, you're just trying to repeat the FUD about Apple forcing its users (at gunpoint) to buy teh new OSs every month for $1299.9999!!!11 each time omg wtf!
number 2 is Einstein and it says "Jewish" though Einstein clearly rejected the idea of a personal god. he was only a Jew in the sense that Hitler would have killed him.
so even if the information in that list were correct, what would be the point? the further back in time you go, the more religious people are (especially if the consequence of not being religious is being burned to death, tortured or locked up)?
show me the same list of the top 100 scientists for right now.
>Obviously athiests are in the minority in the scientific community.
if you read my post you'll notice I said "top scientists" not "the scientific community". if you look at the most successful scientists then atheism rises to about 90%.
>Oh right... because the first protiens that formed life willed it. Give me a fucking break man.
don't get angry just because you don't understand something. fortunately there are plenty of people in the world who can understand mechanisms other than "by will or random".
>The science is good or it's not.
I've never said otherwise. there is a positive correlation between good science and atheism. fact. deal with.
>unless you're saying "I want to believe in randomly caused macro-evolution so much that I want to ignore scientific evidence from anyone who doesn't agree with me."
no, I'm not saying this, because 1. "macro-evolution" is a term used by fundamentalists, not scientists, and 2. no scientist would describe evolution as "randomly caused".
the rest of your post seems to all be about the fact that you don't seem to understand the phrase "statistically speaking".
and, statistically speaking, it DOES matter whether it's conducted by the most dedicated atheist or a devout Christian. in the general population atheists are about 10%, whereas for top scientists 90% are atheist.
a big problem is that "science" done by fundamentalists only tries to explain the "observations" found in the Bible, whereas good scientists have to explain all observations at all times in all places.
science should be done without an agenda. in practice this never happens perfectly but the religious agenda is most dangerous to good science because, unlike money, fame, success etc., it's the only one that will stand up to consistent repeated evidence of it not being true.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500 May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed. May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups. Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007 Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan) Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99 Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2. Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition. October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive" October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94% October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3 Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007 Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3 Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360 Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07 Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch. Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360 Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4" Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3 Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii
>No... such information has never been available, not in a prepackaged, instantaneously available and organized form.
yes it has, except the name for the previous version of the technology was a "window". initially this technology was only available in static form, such as a "house window", but for about a century we have had very mobile versions such as "car windows" which allow you to see many things in many different places separated by large distances in a short period of time. all of this information is 100% prepackaged and organised using "maps"; pieces of paper based on the ancient art of cartography. some conspiracy theorists now claim that this art has progressed to a science, and that maps can even be made now from eyes that circle the planet at great distances.
summary: the only information a camera offers is the same information (but less) than your eyes offer. and if the only thing that stops criminals taking over thhe world is that they have been too lazy to open their eyes so far, then we truly are screwed.
>Woah, I just noticed you've got me foe'd, that's interesting... Wonder how I earned that...
dunno, all your comments in history are about Wii, but based on "Staunch conservative thinker and capitalist pig.:)", maybe you said something pro-ID or anti-choice.
or maybe you just used the phrase "could care less" or spelled ridiculous wrong. it's BS anyway since I don't use foe modifiers...
the information is available anyway. do you want the freedom and ability to do things, or just ban everything that might have bad uses? the first thing you should want to get rid of is the internet itself. except you're using it! oh noes your argument is BS!
his view, which I go along with, is that you aren't going to get rid of the cameras so the best thing to do is make access available to all. if you're using a camera to scout a crime scene guess what, when you get there to do your crime THERE WILL BE A CAMERA WATCHING YOU!!!!!!! OMG WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT!
coming up next: binoculars used to see things from a distance, moms call for ban to protect children.
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what the flying fuck is "the MP3 industry"?
methinks you need a couple of whacks in the face from the ClueStick (TM).
>They should have picked a country, hyped the machine, and then had enough consoles to let everyone who wanted one get one.
can work both ways. I live in UK: no PS3 till March. if I had wanted one I would have seen it as them telling me to fuck off and told them the same.
Nintendo launching everywhere as much as possible shows respect to their customers imo. I was able to get a Wii, and so was everyone else who knew about the launch beforehand and was prepared to put a little work in (refreshing amazon.co.uk for 40mins).
expecting to get a Wii straight away when only deciding to get one *after* it has had a massive launch and become a hit is just childish. but telling your customers they can't even think about having one for 4 months is just insulting.
(to all UK PS3-wanters: you only get treated this way because you put up with it.)
listening to one of his radio shows (podcast available) I heard an interesting take on cameras that I find compelling.
he's a self-proclaimed libertarian nut and suggested that cameras should be everywhere (in public, not private) but that the feeds should be freely available to everyone.
this would be great. you have no right or expectation of privacy in public anyway, so it's just information that is available anyway. so why not let everyone have access. reduces the risk of misuse by government and makes it a resource for the people who pay for them.
I can imagine it almost being as big as the internet and have a massive reduction on crime.
it would be even bettter if there was a server where you could request footage for a certain time period e.g. your car was damaged while you were at the shop so you get the car park footage and see who it was for either the police or insurance company. hit and run accidents would be so difficult to get away with.
>the guy who originally lit the candle didn't spend millions of dollars figuring out how to light it
yeah and the guy who came up with the medical patent didn't learn everything he knew from other people, then get a shitload of government funding to do his research. oh wait, yes he did.
your point about "no normaility" is good, but I hope you aren't trying to push a "both sides of the argument" point of view. just because there are always two sides doesn't mean they are equal.
the fact is people have historically settled very near water and if that water moves real people get screwed. it's no comfort that there's a bit more land on the other side of the world when your house is under water.
humans have always rebuilt the world to suit their needs, whether by making changes or preventing changes.
>then story grew into the Noah legend saving the world from disaster.
it was first a babylonian myth, then got ripped off. Ut-Napishtim was renamed Noah. everything about Jesus is a rip-off of older myths too. makes it funny when people call the bible the greatest story ever told. in reality, at the time it was the most cliche story ever.
>Honestly I think it's impossible to have a very strong opinion on the PS3 until it's been released for a year.
surely a problem in itself? back in the old days I don't ever recall the "wah! give me a year before you have an opinion! why do you have to be so mean! judging something is politically incorrect!" argument being too popular.
>Considering you're a self professed hardcore gamer, you should know that the PS3 DOES have stuff going for it other than just Blu-ray.
>The Wii console's browser is not free; you need $5 to buy it
no you don't you freaking retard the whole point of this article is that it is being released soon and it's free if you don't choose to wait until next year. get a clue: " will be free for all Wii owners until the end of June 2007".
I wish the woman had gotten more because of the disgusting argument of the McDonalds lawyer: the woman was too old for sex in his opinion so reconstructive surgery to her lap would be purely cosmetic and not necessary. It would has set a precident for all cases of injury through negligence to be dismissed with arguments such as "yeah well he's fat and lazy and didn't like being able to walk anyway".
the retardedness of the patent is clear, but this is also a bad idea anyway.
it looks like it needs to be built into email composers/readers like a standard, but no patent-based addition to an established standard would ever get accepted anyway.
and even if it did... what's the point? how hard is it to put a smiley face in the subject line? or to actally type "this is sweet". who's going to bother with "this makes me mad" tag when knocking out a quick "fuck you" email?
argh, this patent is so stupid on every possible level.
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>2-year contract is acceptable, but a downer.
how the hell do you figure that? the price INCLUDES the 2-year contract. so what's that extra $100 you find so objectionable spread over 2 years? 14 cents a day?
have you seen the tech this thing has! but 14 cents a day is a deal-breaker for you.
never mind, more for the rest of us.
what part of "AppleInsider is reporting that Apple has been working on OS-level integration of an geographical mapping technology as an integral part of Leopard, its next-generation OS" didn't already make your point?
oh I see, you're just trying to repeat the FUD about Apple forcing its users (at gunpoint) to buy teh new OSs every month for $1299.9999!!!11 each time omg wtf!
so?
number 2 is Einstein and it says "Jewish" though Einstein clearly rejected the idea of a personal god. he was only a Jew in the sense that Hitler would have killed him.
so even if the information in that list were correct, what would be the point? the further back in time you go, the more religious people are (especially if the consequence of not being religious is being burned to death, tortured or locked up)?
show me the same list of the top 100 scientists for right now.
>Obviously athiests are in the minority in the scientific community.
if you read my post you'll notice I said "top scientists" not "the scientific community". if you look at the most successful scientists then atheism rises to about 90%.
>Oh right... because the first protiens that formed life willed it. Give me a fucking break man.
don't get angry just because you don't understand something. fortunately there are plenty of people in the world who can understand mechanisms other than "by will or random".
>The science is good or it's not.
I've never said otherwise. there is a positive correlation between good science and atheism. fact. deal with.
>unless you're saying "I want to believe in randomly caused macro-evolution so much that I want to ignore scientific evidence from anyone who doesn't agree with me."
no, I'm not saying this, because
1. "macro-evolution" is a term used by fundamentalists, not scientists, and
2. no scientist would describe evolution as "randomly caused".
the rest of your post seems to all be about the fact that you don't seem to understand the phrase "statistically speaking".
>It's the science that matters.
only so long as that science is good science.
and, statistically speaking, it DOES matter whether it's conducted by the most dedicated atheist or a devout Christian. in the general population atheists are about 10%, whereas for top scientists 90% are atheist.
a big problem is that "science" done by fundamentalists only tries to explain the "observations" found in the Bible, whereas good scientists have to explain all observations at all times in all places.
science should be done without an agenda. in practice this never happens perfectly but the religious agenda is most dangerous to good science because, unlike money, fame, success etc., it's the only one that will stand up to consistent repeated evidence of it not being true.
>"I for one am not sure I like the possible directions this research could take."
not sure? possible directions?
well then get back to us when you ARE sure about something and maybe we'll listen to your opinion then. otherwise sit down and stfu.
from Natural_Mystic at http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php? topic_id=25247543 :
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups.
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360
Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch.
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii
>No... such information has never been available, not in a prepackaged, instantaneously available and organized form.
yes it has, except the name for the previous version of the technology was a "window". initially this technology was only available in static form, such as a "house window", but for about a century we have had very mobile versions such as "car windows" which allow you to see many things in many different places separated by large distances in a short period of time. all of this information is 100% prepackaged and organised using "maps"; pieces of paper based on the ancient art of cartography. some conspiracy theorists now claim that this art has progressed to a science, and that maps can even be made now from eyes that circle the planet at great distances.
summary: the only information a camera offers is the same information (but less) than your eyes offer. and if the only thing that stops criminals taking over thhe world is that they have been too lazy to open their eyes so far, then we truly are screwed.
>Woah, I just noticed you've got me foe'd, that's interesting... Wonder how I earned that...
:)", maybe you said something pro-ID or anti-choice.
dunno, all your comments in history are about Wii, but based on "Staunch conservative thinker and capitalist pig.
or maybe you just used the phrase "could care less" or spelled ridiculous wrong. it's BS anyway since I don't use foe modifiers...
he did think of that. so did I.
the information is available anyway. do you want the freedom and ability to do things, or just ban everything that might have bad uses? the first thing you should want to get rid of is the internet itself. except you're using it! oh noes your argument is BS!
his view, which I go along with, is that you aren't going to get rid of the cameras so the best thing to do is make access available to all. if you're using a camera to scout a crime scene guess what, when you get there to do your crime THERE WILL BE A CAMERA WATCHING YOU!!!!!!! OMG WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT!
coming up next: binoculars used to see things from a distance, moms call for ban to protect children.
what the flying fuck is "the MP3 industry"?
methinks you need a couple of whacks in the face from the ClueStick (TM).
>They should have picked a country, hyped the machine, and then had enough consoles to let everyone who wanted one get one.
can work both ways. I live in UK: no PS3 till March. if I had wanted one I would have seen it as them telling me to fuck off and told them the same.
Nintendo launching everywhere as much as possible shows respect to their customers imo. I was able to get a Wii, and so was everyone else who knew about the launch beforehand and was prepared to put a little work in (refreshing amazon.co.uk for 40mins).
expecting to get a Wii straight away when only deciding to get one *after* it has had a massive launch and become a hit is just childish. but telling your customers they can't even think about having one for 4 months is just insulting.
(to all UK PS3-wanters: you only get treated this way because you put up with it.)
listening to one of his radio shows (podcast available) I heard an interesting take on cameras that I find compelling.
he's a self-proclaimed libertarian nut and suggested that cameras should be everywhere (in public, not private) but that the feeds should be freely available to everyone.
this would be great. you have no right or expectation of privacy in public anyway, so it's just information that is available anyway. so why not let everyone have access. reduces the risk of misuse by government and makes it a resource for the people who pay for them.
I can imagine it almost being as big as the internet and have a massive reduction on crime.
it would be even bettter if there was a server where you could request footage for a certain time period e.g. your car was damaged while you were at the shop so you get the car park footage and see who it was for either the police or insurance company. hit and run accidents would be so difficult to get away with.
>the guy who originally lit the candle didn't spend millions of dollars figuring out how to light it
yeah and the guy who came up with the medical patent didn't learn everything he knew from other people, then get a shitload of government funding to do his research. oh wait, yes he did.
your point about "no normaility" is good, but I hope you aren't trying to push a "both sides of the argument" point of view. just because there are always two sides doesn't mean they are equal.
the fact is people have historically settled very near water and if that water moves real people get screwed. it's no comfort that there's a bit more land on the other side of the world when your house is under water.
humans have always rebuilt the world to suit their needs, whether by making changes or preventing changes.
>then story grew into the Noah legend saving the world from disaster.
it was first a babylonian myth, then got ripped off. Ut-Napishtim was renamed Noah. everything about Jesus is a rip-off of older myths too. makes it funny when people call the bible the greatest story ever told. in reality, at the time it was the most cliche story ever.
is your comment meant to be fake and funny or real and pathetic? you have no other comments for me to judge your sanity by.
>Honestly I think it's impossible to have a very strong opinion on the PS3 until it's been released for a year.
surely a problem in itself? back in the old days I don't ever recall the "wah! give me a year before you have an opinion! why do you have to be so mean! judging something is politically incorrect!" argument being too popular.
>Considering you're a self professed hardcore gamer, you should know that the PS3 DOES have stuff going for it other than just Blu-ray.
such as?
>The Wii console's browser is not free; you need $5 to buy it
no you don't you freaking retard the whole point of this article is that it is being released soon and it's free if you don't choose to wait until next year. get a clue: " will be free for all Wii owners until the end of June 2007".
+10, not a freaking retard.
I wish the woman had gotten more because of the disgusting argument of the McDonalds lawyer: the woman was too old for sex in his opinion so reconstructive surgery to her lap would be purely cosmetic and not necessary. It would has set a precident for all cases of injury through negligence to be dismissed with arguments such as "yeah well he's fat and lazy and didn't like being able to walk anyway".
>i just don't buy it that a bunch of muck and volcanic ash suddenly sprang to life and formed cells totally randomly.
to put it bluntly, that's because you're an idiot and don't have a clue what science actually says let alone why it says it.
the retardedness of the patent is clear, but this is also a bad idea anyway.
it looks like it needs to be built into email composers/readers like a standard, but no patent-based addition to an established standard would ever get accepted anyway.
and even if it did... what's the point? how hard is it to put a smiley face in the subject line? or to actally type "this is sweet". who's going to bother with "this makes me mad" tag when knocking out a quick "fuck you" email?
argh, this patent is so stupid on every possible level.