I don't get it, NVIDIA release proprietary software on Linux and the community react like someone shit on their living room carpet, but when Valve do it, it's great news?
I think the Free Software purists won't be happy about Steam in any way shape or form. And the community is made up of a lot of different opinions and you'll see that people have varied opinions about Steam. However, they have certain redeeming factors: They have been hiring people for fixing not only bugs in AMDs and nVidias driver, but also in the kernel and in OpenGL. They are actually contributing more than nVidia already.
I'd also like to point out that there's a difference between a userspace program, and a driver that's needed to make your computer run as good as it possibly can. nVidias driver has been better than a lot of others, but it's been problematic to get them to follow stuff like for instance KMS, or get them to release drivers for their Optimus technology. They are appearantly horrendously bad at communicating with Linux vendors and open source guys, and Valve is already better than them in that department.
On that note, I think it would be good to say goodbyes to Windows Vista too. Windows 7 and 8 are truly better and the only OS we currently need, on top of Mac OS X. That trio is something beautiful and hard for anyone to break.
Yes, let's all celebrate a duopoly of walled gardens. That'll be grand.
This makes the whole kernel basically monolithic (i.e. like the modern Windows and Linux kernels), which is kind of unexpected!
It's not unexpected for anyone who has been paying even remotely attention to operating system development. Let me quote Linus from a G+ post on Greg Kroah-Hartmans feed:
yes, it's based on Mach, but it's based on the older Mach 2 architecture which really wasn't a microkernel. It's parts of FreeBSD bolted on top of a research kernel that was meant to become a microkernel, but never really did.
And the result really is nasty. Page fault and VM latencies are horrible (why do I know? We hit huge performance problems while doing the MacOS port of git), the filesystem choices they've done show a level of incompetence that is stunning, yadda yadda.
But hey, it's pretty on top. If the Apple engineers actually knew what they were doing, they could use a known superior open-source kernel and put their pretty on top of that instead. Then they wouldn't have to do kernel programming, and could leave it to the people who actually like doing it and know what they are doing.
I've been working as a Mac Tech for some 6 years now, and swollen Apple batteries are quite normal. In fact, I've seen it happen to units since 2006 and up to their current generation. This may occasionally break other components in the unit.
Cops used to be much worse decades ago but the fact that they are better doesn't mean they should be given a free pass when they're blatantly in the wrong.
This is a strawman, Nocturnal Devian never claimed they should get a free pass.
XCode was always an extra, but it was included for free, with documentation on the OS X DVDs. Apple also have a lot of podcasts with info. They're being nicer to developers atm than Microsoft is.
That's odd. The last time I installed Fedora it detected all my hardware including wifi and I was online in about 5 seconds after logging in. Windows 7 on the other hand... Hell, Ubuntu will even suggest to install the proprietary AMD/nVidia drivers automagically for you.
Last year, I installed Ubuntu via wubi. It worked great, for a while. At some point, an update caused some kind of grub/kernel incompatibility. Ubuntu never managed to boot again.
A few days ago, Windows 7 stopped booting without any interaction, nor updates on my part. It never booted again. Surely this means Windows is not ready for the desktop? Or maybe anecdotal evidence or just bad luck is completely worthless as "proof". You're not adressing the question you originally got either. Ubuntu has tools for all the things you describe, and it even offers to install codecs/java/flash during install time. I think you're a Windows shill that doesn't actually think, and that you've never use Ubuntu at all. I also think you're probably a pretty incompetent software developer, and if you do program, I want to stay the hell away from whatever shit your moron brain churns out.
Please start on Unity, I love people making asses out of themselves.
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I don't get it, NVIDIA release proprietary software on Linux and the community react like someone shit on their living room carpet, but when Valve do it, it's great news?
I think the Free Software purists won't be happy about Steam in any way shape or form. And the community is made up of a lot of different opinions and you'll see that people have varied opinions about Steam. However, they have certain redeeming factors: They have been hiring people for fixing not only bugs in AMDs and nVidias driver, but also in the kernel and in OpenGL. They are actually contributing more than nVidia already.
I'd also like to point out that there's a difference between a userspace program, and a driver that's needed to make your computer run as good as it possibly can. nVidias driver has been better than a lot of others, but it's been problematic to get them to follow stuff like for instance KMS, or get them to release drivers for their Optimus technology. They are appearantly horrendously bad at communicating with Linux vendors and open source guys, and Valve is already better than them in that department.
Valve is already releasing their game. When will you be releasing yours Mr. AC? And when do you expect to surpass Valve in revenue?
On that note, I think it would be good to say goodbyes to Windows Vista too. Windows 7 and 8 are truly better and the only OS we currently need, on top of Mac OS X. That trio is something beautiful and hard for anyone to break.
Yes, let's all celebrate a duopoly of walled gardens. That'll be grand.
This makes the whole kernel basically monolithic (i.e. like the modern Windows and Linux kernels), which is kind of unexpected!
It's not unexpected for anyone who has been paying even remotely attention to operating system development. Let me quote Linus from a G+ post on Greg Kroah-Hartmans feed:
yes, it's based on Mach, but it's based on the older Mach 2 architecture which really wasn't a microkernel. It's parts of FreeBSD bolted on top of a research kernel that was meant to become a microkernel, but never really did.
And the result really is nasty. Page fault and VM latencies are horrible (why do I know? We hit huge performance problems while doing the MacOS port of git), the filesystem choices they've done show a level of incompetence that is stunning, yadda yadda.
But hey, it's pretty on top. If the Apple engineers actually knew what they were doing, they could use a known superior open-source kernel and put their pretty on top of that instead. Then they wouldn't have to do kernel programming, and could leave it to the people who actually like doing it and know what they are doing.
10.5 was not it. Maybe you are thinking of 10.6, but 10.5 was a major overhaul of everything.
Steam for Mac released in March 2010. 10.6.6 with App Store was released in 2011.
With his little tank?
You should be angry at lacking documentation, not the names.
Every single bank in Norway does this.
Yeah, but Lenovo have _other_ units which are more upgrade friendly than Apples _other_ units. Way to miss the point entirely.
I've been working as a Mac Tech for some 6 years now, and swollen Apple batteries are quite normal. In fact, I've seen it happen to units since 2006 and up to their current generation. This may occasionally break other components in the unit.
You don't have to pay for the latest Ubuntu.
No. Valve has been abundantly clear on this: It's a native port.
No, that's OpenFirmware, not EFI.
I pray to god you're not actually referring to OS X...
He's referring to Meego, which Nokia killed when they sold their asses to Microsoft. Nokia does not, afaik, have an Android phone.
Cops used to be much worse decades ago but the fact that they are better doesn't mean they should be given a free pass when they're blatantly in the wrong.
This is a strawman, Nocturnal Devian never claimed they should get a free pass.
XCode was always an extra, but it was included for free, with documentation on the OS X DVDs. Apple also have a lot of podcasts with info. They're being nicer to developers atm than Microsoft is.
That's odd. The last time I installed Fedora it detected all my hardware including wifi and I was online in about 5 seconds after logging in. Windows 7 on the other hand... Hell, Ubuntu will even suggest to install the proprietary AMD/nVidia drivers automagically for you.
It's the HFS+ partition that died, not the Linux one. Mac OS is certainly not a "freetard" OS.
What the fuck is this bullshit? Normal people use applications, not the "operating system":
Last year, I installed Ubuntu via wubi. It worked great, for a while. At some point, an update caused some kind of grub/kernel incompatibility. Ubuntu never managed to boot again.
A few days ago, Windows 7 stopped booting without any interaction, nor updates on my part. It never booted again. Surely this means Windows is not ready for the desktop? Or maybe anecdotal evidence or just bad luck is completely worthless as "proof". You're not adressing the question you originally got either. Ubuntu has tools for all the things you describe, and it even offers to install codecs/java/flash during install time. I think you're a Windows shill that doesn't actually think, and that you've never use Ubuntu at all. I also think you're probably a pretty incompetent software developer, and if you do program, I want to stay the hell away from whatever shit your moron brain churns out.
Please start on Unity, I love people making asses out of themselves.
In that case, how is it that BSD doesn't have a problem providing a stable ABI?
Different philosophies, and the 4 drivers the BSD guys have are easier to keep stable.
Samsung?
and no Linux was not a viable alternative for media production...
Of course it wasn't, that's why dreamworks use it on their desktops.