No. He didn't specify x86 PC, he said PC, which in its generic form also includes Mac. He is right to argue against the OP who said there is no Office for Linux, but you can get Office for Mac thereby proving MS does have products available for "competitors" platforms. We all know why (making Office docs defacto doc standard) but all corporations will do whatever they think is right to win market share.
I just had to do power maths at work, as someone wanted to power down machines at night to save money.
Our electric bill is 20k per quarter. The 1watt of the LCD in standy + the 3watt of PC in standy came to a saving of 35 quid.
Over 50% of our bill was due mainly to the Kitchen (ovens) and the Server room and its associated cooling and the general building air con.
Working for many corps, I don't think anyone has every considered power per watt. Perhaps that should, but they don't.
John Wayne's real name was Marion, even more proof that testosterone levels are dropping.
Besides, John Wayne was in his fifties even in his twenties, I'd have no problem beatin the crap out of the old chuffer.
(Ah, my anger and violence levels feel somehow reassuring right now:-) )
I can't believe people on this site can compare the inconvenience of having their bank account frozen, to the mild inconvenience of having your life terminated by a bomb/plane.
I mean, the guy will have to shuffle some paperwork, versus a widow having to raise her kids alone.
Oh yeah, bad government - bad. Geesh, these people have lost the plot. Tune in to Talksport radio in the UK tonight, James Whale has a show about 9/11 conspiracy theories. One of which is that the twin towers are actually still there. I have no doubt a percentage of the/. think it is true LOL.
But we may not be facing impending disaster.
I think the guys post is spot on actually. We are human, but we are part of nature too.
Is a birds nest natural? It takes materials and contructs a dwelling. We humans manufacture things from other natural resources. We and our plastics or oil combustion are not alien to our planet.
We need to look after the planet, but I am still unsure of how much we need to be panicking. Its a tough sell for those who believe we should be hypervenitlating.
UK Radio recently had someone saying that we have more urgent problems like war/peace, AIDS and starvation that need attention before global warming.
Not sure why you got a flaimbate mod, as you are pretty much spot on. The hypocrasy in the guys missive, is that he was central to the politics when TdR was booted.
He also used the right word. Meritocracy. Thats how the world should work, but we all know that politics always seem to outgun talent. It's a shame. How many of us work for lame brain managers who use AOL and couldn't swap a board out in their PC yet are somehow entrusted with setting policy or strategy for millions of pounds worth of IT budget.
This speaks more about humans than technology. The lesson to learn is the people who "understand more"/"have talent" need to be working under a self sustaining framework. Linux has this framework, and the right people. And people like Shuttleworth accelerate it from time to time and they understand the importance of the right governance and contributing back/upstream.
NetBSD seems to have failed because of its own internal politics rather than technical ability. Its big of the guy to admit he was part of it, along with the TNF.
I think you need to read my post again, you are angry at our media, not me.
The original poster said "both where innocent people were shot for no good reason".
You won't be able to answer the question, why would they want to shoot someone who was not a terrorist?
They thought they had the reason, turns out they had the wrong man. They are at fault.
I am not getting into the smear thing, I am not smearing, if he had gone home he would not have got shot, fact.
The forest gate pair were far from church goers.
If you believe the crap about muslims not liking banks, then you believe that. I will believe they were a couple of toe rags who had a brother who had an illegal firearm. All my friends and family and associates do not have firearms therefore we won't have our doors kicked in. Their associated was informing on them from prison. Nice bunch a people. Have then round for tea mate.
I can't stand our current goverment either, but that does not mean there isn't a terrorist threat, or that the police aren't trying actually to get the right people.
You have doubts they took out all those people on buses and tubes in 7/11?
Or was that a conspiracy theory? You've been reading too much Michael Moore.
The secret services did not shoot de Menezes, it was normal armed response officers wasn't it?
He was also an illegal alien, outstayed his visa, and was alledgidly off his nut on cocaine with a backback on a train clearly panicing that he was gonna get picked up for visa violation. and in Brazil the police don't say please like they do in the UK, so he thought he was in "big" trouble, and as it turned out he was as he was the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. tragic, even for the poor officers who have to live with the guilt, and the young blokes family.
Our police dont norally drive around armed BTW. These were exceptional times. What would they gain from intentionally killing this guy? Nothing, he wasn't an activist or someone who needed removing from power. He was just some guy. The police therefore logically must have made a mistake.
There were no WMD's, correct.
"Mohammed Abdul Kahar and Abul Koyair were not planning on bombing anybody at all."
Well, you don't know that. It was never proved. And weren't they or their brother in prison for 6 years for arms offenses.
They had 30k cash in the house. Child porn on their PC.
Yeah proper pillars of the community these 2 chumps. If I was a copper and I got a tip off they were planning a terrorist act, with that previous form I'd kick their door in as well.
The police "lie" to cover up their mistakes. But they does not mean there is not a threat of terror right now.
I am not sure how you drew your conclusion.
The poster gave his subjective view. One persons "taste" is not fact, so shouldn't be included in a comparison article or as a comment to it. Its not relevant, so therefore its flaimbait.
Opera has almost exactly the same skins list as Firefox as once you've gone through the pain of making the graphics (the hard part) then making the skin is fairly straightforward.
Try these skins:
HandMade
Neo
Straccio!
Also, mouse gestures work much faster in Opera. Firefox is sluggish. The UI can be made to get out of the way alot more in Opera.
Like most power users I pummel through a couple of hundred of pages every night. I feel using Opera, all of those small delays using other browsers probably means I get to bed about 20 minutes earlier using Opera than I would using Firefox.
I'm not knocking Firefox, as I use Foxmarks to keep my "gold list" of bookmarks in sync from work and home. But Opera's UI is quicker (not subjective, thats fact) and I believe can be made to look just the same as Firefox, if not better as its more native Win32 than Firefox is on the widget front. Fonts are also much shaper in Opera.
That's a very mature comment.
Some of us are non advocates. I love my Linux machines, I love my OpenBSD firewall, but I also like my XP box full of Visual Studio and Dotnet yumminess.
Pointing out facts or liking something you don't like isn't trolling.
If you read most of the posts to this story, its mostly people slaggin MS off for not being able to manage the relase, or people pissed cos they can't get Vista when they wanted it. Why moan about it being late if you love Linux so much? And its not like Linux has never had a delay in a kernel release.
A certain degree of growing up needs to happen in the slashdot mobs. But I don't see it happening in my lifetime.
People like you sound like the game console advocacy kids. I just buy all of them.:-)
100% profit aye?
So Nintendo got Mario to make the cubes from thin air?
MS only sank loads of money into Xbox to fight two established gaming brands with years of mindshare. They have been very sucessful.
Go to aggregated gaming sites, like Metacritic or Gamerankings.
See how many releases there have been for the Gamecube over the last few months, then check out the Xbox and PS2. In fact the Xbox edges out the PS2 which is amazing giving the long established PS2.
Credit where credit is due eh chaps?
As the Koreans kick everyones asses every time.
This year will be no different.
For the last 2 years its been:
1) Korea
2) Germany
3) USA
4) Holland
I doubt any Slashdotters attended or played, too busy on/. typing we hate MS missives:/ So their hate of MS isn't going to bother anyone.
I totally agree with you mate.
If you created a startup with 2 or 3 friends and one went off to do something else, and you and the rest of your friends were left to do the day to graft, you would want that reflected in the share dividends.
Why would you do all the work and give half away?
And yes, you would plan to get shares back. Would you want someones wife/girl friend to get the shares? Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't but its definately a discussion topic, perhaps "we would pay x to get the shares back", she gets "x" they get the shares to carry on "their" company.
Noone said its a big deal. I haven't specified what car I drive which could outflank any of the cars you've listed. The point I made was that had you driven any of the project gotham cars in real life hard like you would in the game you would realise how well they have modelled. The handling feel and characteristics are great considering we are talking about a little joystick rumble and TV visuals. Its amazingly clever, and the maths brains these coders must have simply amaze me.
The fact that either you haven't driven one of your families luxury cars at any speed cos your preppy dad was smiling at you the whole time doesn't put you in a good position to judge the games race qualities.
But from how you described the cars I seriously doubt you have driven them at all, just got the posters on the wall and beat over them:/
Lets break this down.
The above was posted by a person with the name Sir Cockalot. So, already the alarm bells are ringing:
I've driven some pretty fancy cars, SL 600, Porsche Turbo S, Ferrari etc and I've always been blown away with the speed and "handling."
Someone with your handle, typing and understanding clearly dreamt he drove all these cars. You didn't.
"It's the crappy mini that should be hard to control, not the Porsche GT2. It's total crap."
Well, you clearly dont understand anything about cars, which neatly demonstrates that you did not drive the cars you listed above. Any Porshe when pushed even mildly will get its arse bent out of shape and make you start to grip with wheel with fear. A mini doesn't have enough power to loosen itself until you hit silly limits.
"Project Gotham Racing has a retarded multiplayer mode as well."
I think you'll find its second or third in the Xbox live charts played by millions weekly, hardly a failure.
"It's only fun when you unlock all the cars."
That's the point, you earn those cars.
"Perhaps I haven't figure it out yet, but I can't seem to get multiplayer with machine cars too."
So, you are admitting you are dumb? LOL
"Like other people, I play once in a while and I'm not a gamer"
Correct, you are not a gamer. So your value to this thread is?
Get a clue, Project Gotham is an exceptional game on all levels. I'm not a big driving game fan, but you would have to be some kind of moron to suggest that PGR isn't a great great game.
Its not so retarded. Imagine you are a decision maker. Do you roll your own distribution?
Or choose one off the shelf? If so which one?
The guys argument may not have been delicately articulated, but its still a valid point.
"Linux advocates" can hardly make negative comment about MS product range when in the Linux world the choice is even broader.
Whether more choice is bad, or product ranges having missing features is a discussion on value which Linux may well win in terms of price/features (I mean how do you beat free? if not for total cost of onwership) is another matter.
But he is right. I too would rather for general office automation at work choose an XP flavour from 8, than a Linux distribution from many many more (even if there are only a handful of serious choices)
Finally, a sensible review of the 360. Its way more than a box, the Live service is large, and all encompassing. Its simple to get online with Xbox 360. Its not so simple getting online with PS2. And you can't get PS3 today.
PS3 will just be another game console unless it has a comparible service to live, and my gut feeling is that they will not deliver.
Its not surprising there is so much resentment about MS on Slashdot.
PS2 owners don't like the fact also, that over the last year, _ALL_ game releases look better and run faster on Xbox. Xbox has had more game releases and more unique games that PS2. PS2 is dead, Xbox lives and 360 rules.
Simple really.:)
It's funny how so many folks have flamed MS when I still spent 2 hours getting Ubuntu to work with X the other night. At least screen Windows drivers for ATI and nVidia work without having to resort to VI'ing tedious config files. I'll take that over a bit of bloat or risk to the kernel any day.
Besides, most Windows servers where stability counts running on decent HP or IBM come with embedded Intel graphics chips whose drivers are rock. I bet there are few (if any) people in the world who have seen a production crash on Windows 2003 due to video drivers.
As someone who designed, deployed and subsequently supported a 25,000 seat Exchange environment I can tell you must have installed Exchange poorly to get unreliable results. This design was on Exchange 2000, now 2003. I had also previous 5.5 environments with server uptimes of over a year.
Admin is indeed very simple, most of the companies staff got to grips with administering Exchange after some brief time on level 1 callcentre helpdesk support.
The backup / restore PST issues are real, but thats because the users don't do POP and either keep all the data locally or on file servers. Either way, if users save attachments the space is being used "somewhere" whether thats file and print, or on their desktops (and the risks of that being lost apply)
Most large deployments are going for software like KVS for archiving and sucking out PSTs. I have just deployed KVS for 1500 seat Exchange environment, the team of 3 server guys barely touch Exchange on a daily basis, it just works, its low maintenance and its extremely reliable. Its got one of the best web interfaces around and the scheduling is fantastic. Outlook is not bloated, in the same way that neither is Excel compared to its OpenOffice alternatives. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, HP are all 100,000 seat plus environments running Exchange. That would not be possible with an unstable piece of software, fact.
And therein lies the truth. This is exactly what I was referring to.
The open source/Free software folks are actually quasi socialists who are just against "the system" as they see it.
What is that you actually think you are "free" from with Linux?
Paying? MS are "free" within the restrictions of the law to produce their own software, and you don't have to buy a product by MS or with MS inside.
It also irks me that you can tell most of the responders to the posted article clearly didn't go off and read it.
My post was on topic, referencing Greve and even read the PDF from the article.
I use Linux at home, at work, and I use OpenBSD for firewall. But I also use XP as my main desktop and I love it. I have no affiliation with MS and I am not trolling. I am Myers Briggs INTJ which conveys exacly my open mindedness to most situations. How typical to not be able to discuss the issue and try to debate my charactor or motive, just cos I disagree with the unwashed masses of Slashdot posters?
As you have said: "For the fifty billionth time:" MS aren't evil. Money is not evil. Capitalism is not evil. If MS break laws, I'll hang em along with the rest of you, but don't come off like the replies to this thread were anything more than the usual we hate money/ms/paying for anything.
Has anyone taken the time to read the referred article? I doubt it from the usual point blank anti MS posts.
Microsoft makes a genuine point, that the document refers to only one side of of a many sided industry.
We are sick of the Linux people wanting "everything" for free. What would you say if your boss said to you: "I wont you to work for 20% of your salary"
You'd rightly say: "get stuffed".
Yet he will say: "thats fine, we will move your job to India"
Oh, but if an outsource to India article is posted, you all chime in with your usual zeal to slaughter the large "greedy" corporations. Please. Your lack of understanding of how the world works if chilidhly naive and outright dumb. Money is not evil. Money is a metric, and whilst there are faults of the free market system, we are much more likely to get running water and decent healthcare for the world going down the free market route. Russia and China are glowing examples of why "the other way" doesn't work. The dangers of the free market system is there seems to be no protection for the environment by the US (see Kyoto) the worlds largest poluter. And the US uses its trade influence to exert its political will, but i'll take that over state run communism any day. And that we don't focus resources on parts of the world that need it most.
So, MS charges for a product that it creates using R&D, manufacturing, support etc etc. Linux is coded co-operatively with donations from large corporate sponsors even if some of the base work is free. Its hardly "clean hands" with no self interest or revenue stream.
I think if you look at what MS are saying, they are saying free software makes it harder (or impossible) to generate revenue income for software. What will we be left with Linux? I don't want Linux with the Xfree 86 underneath, Kernel compilation and version dependancies, deciding whether I need KDE or Gnome I don't want to compile my programs and neither does my grandma.
Greve hardly sits on the fence, he is the president of the FSFE, he doesn't like DRM. He'd prefer the existing system where we can all download illegal MP3's from bit torrent or Kazaa for free.
MS think content providers should have their work protected, and offer their platform for playing / providing. If their license model doesn't appeal to you, go use Napster, or iTunes. MS doesn't stop you doing that, they just provide their own DRM.
I've read the document, and I am glad that references to the operating system revenues where removed, as it doesn't relate well to the topic which was digital content, creation/delivery/business models.
It's just a shame that the Linux people cannot see thay Linux isn't free. It just receives money from more indirect sources.
I'm sure MS are fighting like dogs to protect itself and it's model, but Linux is not a virgin, or a saint either.
The irony of all this of course is that MS are moving more and more to a services model. It's interesting from an outsiders point of view to watch Linux people criticise MS yet fail to resolve some of their own governance problems. Its enjoyable watching Mark Shuttelworth trying to fix some of those problems too, I think he's doing a great job. I like both Linux and Windows, I just don't see either side as evil, I'm sure both people on both sides are trying to create the best products/software they can.
Er, you clearly haven't played Guild Wars for very long then.
Guild Wars starts off slow in tutorial mode, in pre searing Ascalon. You reach level 7 or 8 or something, then WHAM! you are in the "Real Game" after a touch of FMV.
Then you get tons more XP, then before you know it you're level 10, and you can do "missions" as well as Quests. Hook up with a lvl 20 in your group and bingo your copping 2000 XP per mission. I have played for 3 nights since since level 10, and I will reach level 12 tonight, and will rapidly get to level 20. Most players on GW now have 4 lvl 20 chars they chop and change between, its very quick to level. Unlike WoW which is too much walking too much grind. I guess WoW gets nicer once you get to level 40 and get a mount (if you have enough gold). GW doesn't need all the item and free market economy, is doesn't have the dupes, or the insane items. Its prettier, its more enjoyable to hang out in groups, then you can enjoy the whole PvP experience pretty quickly. No monthly free, its wonderful.
from today, Linux worm:
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/11/08/140203.sh tml?tid=220&tid=106
and of course, rootkits don't exist for Linux, oh no:
http://la-samhna.de/library/rootkits/list.html
MS are trying to do something about security, Vista will not stick you straight in as admin.
Shame you/. types can't see passed the end of your biggoted noses. I love Linux, and I stroke my OpenBSD box goodnight, but come on Bill is not the anti christ, XP/VS/SQL/Exchange are all fine products, not everything MS does sucks or made out of spite, they really are trying to make improvements with each iteration.
Stop the madness pls, it doesn't do "the cause" any good if you all act like spoilt children.
At least Vista will tell you that you have a rootkit installed, will your Linux distribution do this out of the box? Exactly.
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No. He didn't specify x86 PC, he said PC, which in its generic form also includes Mac. He is right to argue against the OP who said there is no Office for Linux, but you can get Office for Mac thereby proving MS does have products available for "competitors" platforms. We all know why (making Office docs defacto doc standard) but all corporations will do whatever they think is right to win market share.
I just had to do power maths at work, as someone wanted to power down machines at night to save money. Our electric bill is 20k per quarter. The 1watt of the LCD in standy + the 3watt of PC in standy came to a saving of 35 quid. Over 50% of our bill was due mainly to the Kitchen (ovens) and the Server room and its associated cooling and the general building air con. Working for many corps, I don't think anyone has every considered power per watt. Perhaps that should, but they don't.
John Wayne's real name was Marion, even more proof that testosterone levels are dropping. Besides, John Wayne was in his fifties even in his twenties, I'd have no problem beatin the crap out of the old chuffer. (Ah, my anger and violence levels feel somehow reassuring right now :-) )
Yeah, Amen brother.
/. think it is true LOL.
I can't believe people on this site can compare the inconvenience of having their bank account frozen, to the mild inconvenience of having your life terminated by a bomb/plane.
I mean, the guy will have to shuffle some paperwork, versus a widow having to raise her kids alone.
Oh yeah, bad government - bad. Geesh, these people have lost the plot. Tune in to Talksport radio in the UK tonight, James Whale has a show about 9/11 conspiracy theories. One of which is that the twin towers are actually still there. I have no doubt a percentage of the
But we may not be facing impending disaster. I think the guys post is spot on actually. We are human, but we are part of nature too. Is a birds nest natural? It takes materials and contructs a dwelling. We humans manufacture things from other natural resources. We and our plastics or oil combustion are not alien to our planet. We need to look after the planet, but I am still unsure of how much we need to be panicking. Its a tough sell for those who believe we should be hypervenitlating. UK Radio recently had someone saying that we have more urgent problems like war/peace, AIDS and starvation that need attention before global warming.
Not sure why you got a flaimbate mod, as you are pretty much spot on.
The hypocrasy in the guys missive, is that he was central to the politics when TdR was booted.
He also used the right word. Meritocracy. Thats how the world should work, but we all know that politics always seem to outgun talent. It's a shame. How many of us work for lame brain managers who use AOL and couldn't swap a board out in their PC yet are somehow entrusted with setting policy or strategy for millions of pounds worth of IT budget.
This speaks more about humans than technology. The lesson to learn is the people who "understand more"/"have talent" need to be working under a self sustaining framework. Linux has this framework, and the right people. And people like Shuttleworth accelerate it from time to time and they understand the importance of the right governance and contributing back/upstream.
NetBSD seems to have failed because of its own internal politics rather than technical ability. Its big of the guy to admit he was part of it, along with the TNF.
I think you need to read my post again, you are angry at our media, not me.
The original poster said "both where innocent people were shot for no good reason".
You won't be able to answer the question, why would they want to shoot someone who was not a terrorist?
They thought they had the reason, turns out they had the wrong man. They are at fault.
I am not getting into the smear thing, I am not smearing, if he had gone home he would not have got shot, fact.
The forest gate pair were far from church goers.
If you believe the crap about muslims not liking banks, then you believe that. I will believe they were a couple of toe rags who had a brother who had an illegal firearm. All my friends and family and associates do not have firearms therefore we won't have our doors kicked in. Their associated was informing on them from prison. Nice bunch a people. Have then round for tea mate.
I can't stand our current goverment either, but that does not mean there isn't a terrorist threat, or that the police aren't trying actually to get the right people.
You have doubts they took out all those people on buses and tubes in 7/11? Or was that a conspiracy theory? You've been reading too much Michael Moore. The secret services did not shoot de Menezes, it was normal armed response officers wasn't it? He was also an illegal alien, outstayed his visa, and was alledgidly off his nut on cocaine with a backback on a train clearly panicing that he was gonna get picked up for visa violation. and in Brazil the police don't say please like they do in the UK, so he thought he was in "big" trouble, and as it turned out he was as he was the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time. tragic, even for the poor officers who have to live with the guilt, and the young blokes family. Our police dont norally drive around armed BTW. These were exceptional times. What would they gain from intentionally killing this guy? Nothing, he wasn't an activist or someone who needed removing from power. He was just some guy. The police therefore logically must have made a mistake. There were no WMD's, correct. "Mohammed Abdul Kahar and Abul Koyair were not planning on bombing anybody at all." Well, you don't know that. It was never proved. And weren't they or their brother in prison for 6 years for arms offenses. They had 30k cash in the house. Child porn on their PC. Yeah proper pillars of the community these 2 chumps. If I was a copper and I got a tip off they were planning a terrorist act, with that previous form I'd kick their door in as well. The police "lie" to cover up their mistakes. But they does not mean there is not a threat of terror right now. I am not sure how you drew your conclusion.
The poster gave his subjective view. One persons "taste" is not fact, so shouldn't be included in a comparison article or as a comment to it. Its not relevant, so therefore its flaimbait. Opera has almost exactly the same skins list as Firefox as once you've gone through the pain of making the graphics (the hard part) then making the skin is fairly straightforward. Try these skins: HandMade Neo Straccio! Also, mouse gestures work much faster in Opera. Firefox is sluggish. The UI can be made to get out of the way alot more in Opera. Like most power users I pummel through a couple of hundred of pages every night. I feel using Opera, all of those small delays using other browsers probably means I get to bed about 20 minutes earlier using Opera than I would using Firefox. I'm not knocking Firefox, as I use Foxmarks to keep my "gold list" of bookmarks in sync from work and home. But Opera's UI is quicker (not subjective, thats fact) and I believe can be made to look just the same as Firefox, if not better as its more native Win32 than Firefox is on the widget front. Fonts are also much shaper in Opera.
That's a very mature comment. Some of us are non advocates. I love my Linux machines, I love my OpenBSD firewall, but I also like my XP box full of Visual Studio and Dotnet yumminess. Pointing out facts or liking something you don't like isn't trolling. If you read most of the posts to this story, its mostly people slaggin MS off for not being able to manage the relase, or people pissed cos they can't get Vista when they wanted it. Why moan about it being late if you love Linux so much? And its not like Linux has never had a delay in a kernel release. A certain degree of growing up needs to happen in the slashdot mobs. But I don't see it happening in my lifetime. People like you sound like the game console advocacy kids. I just buy all of them. :-)
100% profit aye? So Nintendo got Mario to make the cubes from thin air? MS only sank loads of money into Xbox to fight two established gaming brands with years of mindshare. They have been very sucessful. Go to aggregated gaming sites, like Metacritic or Gamerankings. See how many releases there have been for the Gamecube over the last few months, then check out the Xbox and PS2. In fact the Xbox edges out the PS2 which is amazing giving the long established PS2. Credit where credit is due eh chaps?
As the Koreans kick everyones asses every time. This year will be no different. For the last 2 years its been: 1) Korea 2) Germany 3) USA 4) Holland I doubt any Slashdotters attended or played, too busy on /. typing we hate MS missives :/ So their hate of MS isn't going to bother anyone.
I totally agree with you mate. If you created a startup with 2 or 3 friends and one went off to do something else, and you and the rest of your friends were left to do the day to graft, you would want that reflected in the share dividends. Why would you do all the work and give half away? And yes, you would plan to get shares back. Would you want someones wife/girl friend to get the shares? Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't but its definately a discussion topic, perhaps "we would pay x to get the shares back", she gets "x" they get the shares to carry on "their" company.
Noone said its a big deal. I haven't specified what car I drive which could outflank any of the cars you've listed. The point I made was that had you driven any of the project gotham cars in real life hard like you would in the game you would realise how well they have modelled. The handling feel and characteristics are great considering we are talking about a little joystick rumble and TV visuals. Its amazingly clever, and the maths brains these coders must have simply amaze me. The fact that either you haven't driven one of your families luxury cars at any speed cos your preppy dad was smiling at you the whole time doesn't put you in a good position to judge the games race qualities. But from how you described the cars I seriously doubt you have driven them at all, just got the posters on the wall and beat over them :/
Lets break this down. The above was posted by a person with the name Sir Cockalot. So, already the alarm bells are ringing: I've driven some pretty fancy cars, SL 600, Porsche Turbo S, Ferrari etc and I've always been blown away with the speed and "handling." Someone with your handle, typing and understanding clearly dreamt he drove all these cars. You didn't. "It's the crappy mini that should be hard to control, not the Porsche GT2. It's total crap." Well, you clearly dont understand anything about cars, which neatly demonstrates that you did not drive the cars you listed above. Any Porshe when pushed even mildly will get its arse bent out of shape and make you start to grip with wheel with fear. A mini doesn't have enough power to loosen itself until you hit silly limits. "Project Gotham Racing has a retarded multiplayer mode as well." I think you'll find its second or third in the Xbox live charts played by millions weekly, hardly a failure. "It's only fun when you unlock all the cars." That's the point, you earn those cars. "Perhaps I haven't figure it out yet, but I can't seem to get multiplayer with machine cars too." So, you are admitting you are dumb? LOL "Like other people, I play once in a while and I'm not a gamer" Correct, you are not a gamer. So your value to this thread is? Get a clue, Project Gotham is an exceptional game on all levels. I'm not a big driving game fan, but you would have to be some kind of moron to suggest that PGR isn't a great great game.
Its not so retarded. Imagine you are a decision maker. Do you roll your own distribution? Or choose one off the shelf? If so which one? The guys argument may not have been delicately articulated, but its still a valid point. "Linux advocates" can hardly make negative comment about MS product range when in the Linux world the choice is even broader. Whether more choice is bad, or product ranges having missing features is a discussion on value which Linux may well win in terms of price/features (I mean how do you beat free? if not for total cost of onwership) is another matter. But he is right. I too would rather for general office automation at work choose an XP flavour from 8, than a Linux distribution from many many more (even if there are only a handful of serious choices)
Finally, a sensible review of the 360. Its way more than a box, the Live service is large, and all encompassing. Its simple to get online with Xbox 360. Its not so simple getting online with PS2. And you can't get PS3 today. PS3 will just be another game console unless it has a comparible service to live, and my gut feeling is that they will not deliver. Its not surprising there is so much resentment about MS on Slashdot. PS2 owners don't like the fact also, that over the last year, _ALL_ game releases look better and run faster on Xbox. Xbox has had more game releases and more unique games that PS2. PS2 is dead, Xbox lives and 360 rules. Simple really. :)
It's funny how so many folks have flamed MS when I still spent 2 hours getting Ubuntu to work with X the other night. At least screen Windows drivers for ATI and nVidia work without having to resort to VI'ing tedious config files. I'll take that over a bit of bloat or risk to the kernel any day. Besides, most Windows servers where stability counts running on decent HP or IBM come with embedded Intel graphics chips whose drivers are rock. I bet there are few (if any) people in the world who have seen a production crash on Windows 2003 due to video drivers.
I find this hard to believe, an exploit? How did that escape with all those millions of open source coders and users pouring over the codebase?
As someone who designed, deployed and subsequently supported a 25,000 seat Exchange environment I can tell you must have installed Exchange poorly to get unreliable results. This design was on Exchange 2000, now 2003. I had also previous 5.5 environments with server uptimes of over a year. Admin is indeed very simple, most of the companies staff got to grips with administering Exchange after some brief time on level 1 callcentre helpdesk support. The backup / restore PST issues are real, but thats because the users don't do POP and either keep all the data locally or on file servers. Either way, if users save attachments the space is being used "somewhere" whether thats file and print, or on their desktops (and the risks of that being lost apply) Most large deployments are going for software like KVS for archiving and sucking out PSTs. I have just deployed KVS for 1500 seat Exchange environment, the team of 3 server guys barely touch Exchange on a daily basis, it just works, its low maintenance and its extremely reliable. Its got one of the best web interfaces around and the scheduling is fantastic. Outlook is not bloated, in the same way that neither is Excel compared to its OpenOffice alternatives. Boeing, Lockheed Martin, HP are all 100,000 seat plus environments running Exchange. That would not be possible with an unstable piece of software, fact.
And therein lies the truth. This is exactly what I was referring to. The open source/Free software folks are actually quasi socialists who are just against "the system" as they see it. What is that you actually think you are "free" from with Linux? Paying? MS are "free" within the restrictions of the law to produce their own software, and you don't have to buy a product by MS or with MS inside. It also irks me that you can tell most of the responders to the posted article clearly didn't go off and read it. My post was on topic, referencing Greve and even read the PDF from the article. I use Linux at home, at work, and I use OpenBSD for firewall. But I also use XP as my main desktop and I love it. I have no affiliation with MS and I am not trolling. I am Myers Briggs INTJ which conveys exacly my open mindedness to most situations. How typical to not be able to discuss the issue and try to debate my charactor or motive, just cos I disagree with the unwashed masses of Slashdot posters? As you have said: "For the fifty billionth time:" MS aren't evil. Money is not evil. Capitalism is not evil. If MS break laws, I'll hang em along with the rest of you, but don't come off like the replies to this thread were anything more than the usual we hate money/ms/paying for anything.
-1 mod for telling it like it is, how typical of Slashdot. :-)
Has anyone taken the time to read the referred article?
I doubt it from the usual point blank anti MS posts.
Microsoft makes a genuine point, that the document refers to only one side of of a many sided industry.
We are sick of the Linux people wanting "everything" for free.
What would you say if your boss said to you:
"I wont you to work for 20% of your salary"
You'd rightly say:
"get stuffed".
Yet he will say:
"thats fine, we will move your job to India"
Oh, but if an outsource to India article is posted, you all chime in with your usual zeal to slaughter the large "greedy" corporations. Please.
Your lack of understanding of how the world works if chilidhly naive and outright dumb. Money is not evil. Money is a metric, and whilst there are faults of the free market system, we are much more likely to get running water and decent healthcare for the world going down the free market route.
Russia and China are glowing examples of why "the other way" doesn't work.
The dangers of the free market system is there seems to be no protection for the environment by the US (see Kyoto) the worlds largest poluter. And the US uses its trade influence to exert its political will, but i'll take that over state run communism any day. And that we don't focus resources on parts of the world that need it most.
So, MS charges for a product that it creates using R&D, manufacturing, support etc etc. Linux is coded co-operatively with donations from large corporate sponsors even if some of the base work is free. Its hardly "clean hands" with no self interest or revenue stream.
I think if you look at what MS are saying, they are saying free software makes it harder (or impossible) to generate revenue income for software.
What will we be left with Linux? I don't want Linux with the Xfree 86 underneath, Kernel compilation and version dependancies, deciding whether I need KDE or Gnome I don't want to compile my programs and neither does my grandma.
Greve hardly sits on the fence, he is the president of the FSFE, he doesn't like DRM. He'd prefer the existing system where we can all download illegal MP3's from bit torrent or Kazaa for free.
MS think content providers should have their work protected, and offer their platform for playing / providing. If their license model doesn't appeal to you, go use Napster, or iTunes. MS doesn't stop you doing that, they just provide their own DRM.
I've read the document, and I am glad that references to the operating system revenues where removed, as it doesn't relate well to the topic which was digital content, creation/delivery/business models.
It's just a shame that the Linux people cannot see thay Linux isn't free. It just receives money from more indirect sources.
I'm sure MS are fighting like dogs to protect itself and it's model, but Linux is not a virgin, or a saint either.
The irony of all this of course is that MS are moving more and more to a services model. It's interesting from an outsiders point of view to watch Linux people criticise MS yet fail to resolve some of their own governance problems. Its enjoyable watching Mark Shuttelworth trying to fix some of those problems too, I think he's doing a great job. I like both Linux and Windows, I just don't see either side as evil, I'm sure both people on both sides are trying to create the best products/software they can.
But lets keep it real.
Er, you clearly haven't played Guild Wars for very long then. Guild Wars starts off slow in tutorial mode, in pre searing Ascalon. You reach level 7 or 8 or something, then WHAM! you are in the "Real Game" after a touch of FMV. Then you get tons more XP, then before you know it you're level 10, and you can do "missions" as well as Quests. Hook up with a lvl 20 in your group and bingo your copping 2000 XP per mission. I have played for 3 nights since since level 10, and I will reach level 12 tonight, and will rapidly get to level 20. Most players on GW now have 4 lvl 20 chars they chop and change between, its very quick to level. Unlike WoW which is too much walking too much grind. I guess WoW gets nicer once you get to level 40 and get a mount (if you have enough gold). GW doesn't need all the item and free market economy, is doesn't have the dupes, or the insane items. Its prettier, its more enjoyable to hang out in groups, then you can enjoy the whole PvP experience pretty quickly. No monthly free, its wonderful.
from today, Linux worm: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/11/08/140203.sh tml?tid=220&tid=106
and of course, rootkits don't exist for Linux, oh no:
http://la-samhna.de/library/rootkits/list.html
MS are trying to do something about security, Vista will not stick you straight in as admin.
Shame you /. types can't see passed the end of your biggoted noses. I love Linux, and I stroke my OpenBSD box goodnight, but come on Bill is not the anti christ, XP/VS/SQL/Exchange are all fine products, not everything MS does sucks or made out of spite, they really are trying to make improvements with each iteration.
Stop the madness pls, it doesn't do "the cause" any good if you all act like spoilt children.
At least Vista will tell you that you have a rootkit installed, will your Linux distribution do this out of the box? Exactly.