As the poster your referring to, I assumed it would be apparent that the money would be better put elsewhere (we all know the government can't, not spend money). One can only hope people would use their head a little more to figure that out. The economic feasibility needs to come in though no matter the idea/project, which sadly, rarely materializes.
Realistically though, so what if we have to be at the mercy of protections to other countries when a plane enters their territory? It's in their own best interest to make sure planes don't fall out of the sky. One too many fall out of the sky (hell just imagine one), and people will stop coming/leave. Not to mention these are risks people take every day happily. It beats driving to your destination where death is greatly multiplied. More planes fall out of the sky due to maintenance not being kept up or the plane flatly being kept in the air long after it was supposed to be decommissioned. Maintaining planes would save far more people for substantially less with better overall maintenance costs if things were done correctly. Sadly, airline carriers are concerned about the current profit quarter. It's certainly comforting when you can't get home due to being moved to three different flights because something on the plane had malfunctioned causing them to be grounded. It's no wonder they need bailouts so often with how things are run.
Yes, it neutralizes ONE possible attack vector. God forbid even one weapon many countries have that can circumvent such countermeasures were to get used. Really, it takes only one missile that can get by this to work. Hell, if you want to get into it, what happens if they shoot say two of these missiles this system is supposed to take down? Holy shit! It was designed to handle one at a time!!! Hell even if the system could handle more I'm betting it would be VERY easy to overload this system with 10 or so of these missiles if you want the plane taken down. So yeah, feel free to buy into that it makes you, the average joe safer. At best, this would save 1 whole fucking plane. Certainly not an economically responsible thing to do. Just because we have more money than people who could wish us harm does not mean we should spend all of our money rounding off edges, and doing small things that cost a crapload of money. Hell our current measures with the new scanning equipment, formation of the TSA, and other expensive useless junk have been a big enough waste of cash that can't pay for itself. Because we don't do that more is why we are ahead of them in the grand scheme of things.
And you completely ignored what the poster said. He HAS an HD set. He agreed theres a difference, but it's negligable when watching from the correct distance. You proved his point wonderfully that your acting like a video version of an audiophile arguing against mp3 so easily. Hell most of my own family can't discern the difference between VHS, and DVD video. Only thing that sold that format for them was how much easier it was to handle the DVDs, and not deal with tapes being eaten. Those are the kind of people who will be the driving force anyone has to convince. You can argue minute differences between DVD, and BR/HD-DVD, but it means next to nothing to the mass market. They buy with their wallet which will require sub $100 player, and whichever version of the movie is cheaper. DVD was FAR cheaper to manufacture than VHS almost from the word go. Not to much this time around.
On a separate note: 1080i/1080p are a joke since only some of the most high end sets can natively display (CRTs, which could, while being cheap enough for the masses, are on their way out). Most sets cap out at some odd resolution like 1366x768. Any signal you have above that is a complete waste.
Then why do you want to run OSX then? It's name brand...no wait...thats it, a name brand that has some value because it's better. Your just too cheap to want to pay fair market value for it. People pay the price happily because of the quality, and you, the, "non-tool" can keep your cheap Dell Vostro system (which generally only corporations buy, so it's unlikely YOU paid for it), and others, such as myself, will continue paying fair market value for a good product.
Electronics are just like clothing. You have the people who shop at Walmart/Target/Salvation Army/Whatever travesty shop you normally buy from (Emachines/Dell), then you have those who purchase name brand for name-brands sake (Sony/Alienware), and then you have those who recognize time, and good workmanship. Price is not an issue, and you'll never understand such things. Most are just not wired for it. Mentally, or financially. Some of the best purchases one can make are so cheap, yet theres much better things out there when you recognize hard work. It's like your boss hiring someone who's half the price, because they are half the price, and paying attention to no other qualities. It's just stupid.
Great zing btw. A common misspelling of a word is all you can come up with. Common misspellings tend to happen though when you spend more of your time speaking other languages with far more interesting people than yourself, in languages that aren't, English.
It's their OS. If they don't want to compromise their image of "it just works" by allowing any old hardware out their run their system you'd bitch about how unstable the OS is due to buggy hardware/drivers. Do yourself, and everyone else a favor. Please stay a Windows user. Your too cheap to want anything better. Your like the people who buy nockoff brand-name clothing, and wonder why no-one takes them seriously. Those who don't buy brand-names think your a tool, others who buy nock-offs too, know your a tool, and those who do, don't care. They buy brand name because of the look and quality. Both of which are lost instantly with "I wish I had money" nock-offs that are always a cycle behind.
I should have known better than to deal with this troll. Paying for another console is NOTHING like your analogy. The closest possible one if my Gamestop one. Seriously grow up man. It's a product not required to live, or communicate. So stop getting all buthurt because you can't find your own. If people can't be bothered to reserve the system before it comes out I could care less what hoops they have to jump through, or money they have to pay to get one (payed a year in full for mine). Oh, and the Wiis Nintendo sends out aren't ones available to consumers. They are refurbished units that would never be seen by anyone otherwise. Which is a little annoying since I need to get mine replaced.
I would never do it, but I don't see the fraud to it. The proper party is properly compensated at the end of the day, and are quite happy someone threw away a few extra bucks. Hell they actually make more money in that instance since theres no middleman store taking a cut. Not allot difference there from having a buddy at Gamestop hold a Wii for you when they come in. Just a matter of how badly someone wants it.
Ummm....k...Day 1 I bought my Wii. I got the Wii, and Zelda: $300. The following day I ordered a component cable from Nintendo: $20. Thats all I needed to get going. Hell it wasn't till a month or two later when I actually needed a 2nd controller. Everyone I played with owned a Wii already. Even at one extra controller the figures are considerably less than your fanboy figures. I own a 360 as well, and a dozen games for it. That is a far more expensive console to own. Wireless not included, Live fees, games are more expensive, not to mention don't fall in price very well (hell GoW is still $50-$60), Controllers are more expensive (usually only one person needs a nunchuk), the need for at least an HD set, etc.
Wow, great circular argument ya got there. I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Santa doesn't exist either (see how dumb that sounds?). They don't exactly have any numbers saying they did make a few billion off the PS2. Investors like those statements. Sure they did a few billion in sales, but the dev costs of the system, manufacturing, and such nullify just about all of that money from being anywhere near what say Nintendo did in profits, and thats still if they managed to get into the black. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it looks good at a board meeting when you say your top of the heap, yet the last place loser in sales numbers has been making profits almost since inception of their product, not to mention numbers you dream of.
Yes, they make quarterly profits. Even the Xbox did that. Thats easy once you sink a ton of losses getting the first system out the door. With those costs factored in the PS2 made Sony very little money if any overall. Not to mention the failure rate of PS2s doesn't exactly help their bottom line. I'm an owner of 4 dead PS2s, and one mildly working PS2. It's easy to hit the numbers sold that they have with their system when the systems are that shoddily built.
Indeed...for an ill-fated console Nintendo sure made a ton of money while MS never got into the black, and as to if Sony ever got into the black is still up for debate. All the sources I know though point to that the PS2 never did make an overall profit. When it comes down to who will be around when investors want to ax divisions that aren't making money Nintendo will be the only one who doesn't have to worry.
Yeah just like how a game like Assassin's Creed was on the PS3 first, ported to the 360, and the PS3 version is the one that ended up with frame-rate issues XD
Thats soooo original man. When was the last time you honestly used a Mac? Multi button support has been there since OS9, and machines have shipped with two button mice for a very long time.
Unrelated, but do you happen to know any rental companies that don't rake you over the coals on cellphone plans in Japan by chance? I had a phone rental over the summer for a month, and the phone rental ended up costing almost as much as my plane tickets (what I get for leaving it up to an incompetent friend who'd been a bunch of times and supposedly "knew" what they were doing). I'm doing a 3 month excursion this Summer, and have no desire to deal with that highway robbery pricing scheme again.
It's sure stopped people from driving dangerous cars that utilize gasoline with all the different defects that have caused many cars to go up in flames for no reason than someone fucked up making the car. You know the consumer cares about safety first.
Well to each their own. It's largely a sandbox game, and many miss that easily. Most of the reviewers who give the game low marks can't figure that out. For many people that's also not what they want.
AC is completely off. What are you smoking? Any phone carried in the US by an operator has 3G on a different band than whats required in the rest of the world. Not to mention Softbank has GSM. Edge even pops up in odd places.
Ummm...k...please check your facts before posting ummm k? Even if it WAS 3G he would have bought it in the in the US to begin with, and it would have NOT worked on any provider's 3G network in Japan. US 3G =/= ROW 3G. US is the only country that uses a different frequency than the rest of the world. Not to mention if you knew jack all about cellphones you may know why Apple chose to hold off on 3G. The radios are massive (would almost double the thickness of the iPhone), and a big battery hog even in standby (why I rarely turn on the 3G radio in my Nokia N95 when out of the country). The new models which will be out in 2008 (iPhone 2.0 anyone?) will allow for the new iPhone to be just as thin, and are better about battery consumption, but considerably worse than 2/2.5G. Not to mention the iPhone works just fine in Japan. Softbank utilizes the regular GSM network. It's not DoCoMo type coverage, but it's sufficient, and works. The DoCoMo Foma phones are far more interesting to me than the iPhone imo though. I woulda kept mine this past summer when I took a month long R&R/Study session, but my phone wouldn't work in the US if I did.
Gota love the usual diply AC, and the mod who gave him informative.
I can rationalize all I want. If someone can't be bothered to create an account, let alone login I will happily treat their ideas as meaningless bullshit. Life is too short to deal with it when someone doesn't want to be part of a community. When people post AC they are either lazy, or hiding. In either case, their opinions are meant to be written off. No matter what, they have an ulterior motive thats anti-conducive to constructive criticism, and you know. Debate. I of course salute you sir for logging in, and keeping track of a discussion.
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As the poster your referring to, I assumed it would be apparent that the money would be better put elsewhere (we all know the government can't, not spend money). One can only hope people would use their head a little more to figure that out. The economic feasibility needs to come in though no matter the idea/project, which sadly, rarely materializes.
Realistically though, so what if we have to be at the mercy of protections to other countries when a plane enters their territory? It's in their own best interest to make sure planes don't fall out of the sky. One too many fall out of the sky (hell just imagine one), and people will stop coming/leave. Not to mention these are risks people take every day happily. It beats driving to your destination where death is greatly multiplied. More planes fall out of the sky due to maintenance not being kept up or the plane flatly being kept in the air long after it was supposed to be decommissioned. Maintaining planes would save far more people for substantially less with better overall maintenance costs if things were done correctly. Sadly, airline carriers are concerned about the current profit quarter. It's certainly comforting when you can't get home due to being moved to three different flights because something on the plane had malfunctioned causing them to be grounded. It's no wonder they need bailouts so often with how things are run.
Yes, it neutralizes ONE possible attack vector. God forbid even one weapon many countries have that can circumvent such countermeasures were to get used. Really, it takes only one missile that can get by this to work. Hell, if you want to get into it, what happens if they shoot say two of these missiles this system is supposed to take down? Holy shit! It was designed to handle one at a time!!! Hell even if the system could handle more I'm betting it would be VERY easy to overload this system with 10 or so of these missiles if you want the plane taken down. So yeah, feel free to buy into that it makes you, the average joe safer. At best, this would save 1 whole fucking plane. Certainly not an economically responsible thing to do. Just because we have more money than people who could wish us harm does not mean we should spend all of our money rounding off edges, and doing small things that cost a crapload of money. Hell our current measures with the new scanning equipment, formation of the TSA, and other expensive useless junk have been a big enough waste of cash that can't pay for itself. Because we don't do that more is why we are ahead of them in the grand scheme of things.
And you completely ignored what the poster said. He HAS an HD set. He agreed theres a difference, but it's negligable when watching from the correct distance. You proved his point wonderfully that your acting like a video version of an audiophile arguing against mp3 so easily. Hell most of my own family can't discern the difference between VHS, and DVD video. Only thing that sold that format for them was how much easier it was to handle the DVDs, and not deal with tapes being eaten. Those are the kind of people who will be the driving force anyone has to convince. You can argue minute differences between DVD, and BR/HD-DVD, but it means next to nothing to the mass market. They buy with their wallet which will require sub $100 player, and whichever version of the movie is cheaper. DVD was FAR cheaper to manufacture than VHS almost from the word go. Not to much this time around.
On a separate note: 1080i/1080p are a joke since only some of the most high end sets can natively display (CRTs, which could, while being cheap enough for the masses, are on their way out). Most sets cap out at some odd resolution like 1366x768. Any signal you have above that is a complete waste.
Of course you would be. Only geeks would be reading /. instead of doing what the song is really about =P
Then why do you want to run OSX then? It's name brand...no wait...thats it, a name brand that has some value because it's better. Your just too cheap to want to pay fair market value for it. People pay the price happily because of the quality, and you, the, "non-tool" can keep your cheap Dell Vostro system (which generally only corporations buy, so it's unlikely YOU paid for it), and others, such as myself, will continue paying fair market value for a good product.
Electronics are just like clothing. You have the people who shop at Walmart/Target/Salvation Army/Whatever travesty shop you normally buy from (Emachines/Dell), then you have those who purchase name brand for name-brands sake (Sony/Alienware), and then you have those who recognize time, and good workmanship. Price is not an issue, and you'll never understand such things. Most are just not wired for it. Mentally, or financially. Some of the best purchases one can make are so cheap, yet theres much better things out there when you recognize hard work. It's like your boss hiring someone who's half the price, because they are half the price, and paying attention to no other qualities. It's just stupid.
Great zing btw. A common misspelling of a word is all you can come up with. Common misspellings tend to happen though when you spend more of your time speaking other languages with far more interesting people than yourself, in languages that aren't, English.
It's their OS. If they don't want to compromise their image of "it just works" by allowing any old hardware out their run their system you'd bitch about how unstable the OS is due to buggy hardware/drivers. Do yourself, and everyone else a favor. Please stay a Windows user. Your too cheap to want anything better. Your like the people who buy nockoff brand-name clothing, and wonder why no-one takes them seriously. Those who don't buy brand-names think your a tool, others who buy nock-offs too, know your a tool, and those who do, don't care. They buy brand name because of the look and quality. Both of which are lost instantly with "I wish I had money" nock-offs that are always a cycle behind.
And I highly doubt we ever will. Profitable businesses want things done legally, and ethically second.
The government has a software package they use for such things already. The Macafe stuff it's weak in comparison.
I should have known better than to deal with this troll. Paying for another console is NOTHING like your analogy. The closest possible one if my Gamestop one. Seriously grow up man. It's a product not required to live, or communicate. So stop getting all buthurt because you can't find your own. If people can't be bothered to reserve the system before it comes out I could care less what hoops they have to jump through, or money they have to pay to get one (payed a year in full for mine). Oh, and the Wiis Nintendo sends out aren't ones available to consumers. They are refurbished units that would never be seen by anyone otherwise. Which is a little annoying since I need to get mine replaced.
I would never do it, but I don't see the fraud to it. The proper party is properly compensated at the end of the day, and are quite happy someone threw away a few extra bucks. Hell they actually make more money in that instance since theres no middleman store taking a cut. Not allot difference there from having a buddy at Gamestop hold a Wii for you when they come in. Just a matter of how badly someone wants it.
Personally I don't see how thats fraud. Nintendo actually would make MORE money since you'd have to buy the parts you don't have. Please enlighten us.
Ummm....k...Day 1 I bought my Wii. I got the Wii, and Zelda: $300. The following day I ordered a component cable from Nintendo: $20. Thats all I needed to get going. Hell it wasn't till a month or two later when I actually needed a 2nd controller. Everyone I played with owned a Wii already. Even at one extra controller the figures are considerably less than your fanboy figures. I own a 360 as well, and a dozen games for it. That is a far more expensive console to own. Wireless not included, Live fees, games are more expensive, not to mention don't fall in price very well (hell GoW is still $50-$60), Controllers are more expensive (usually only one person needs a nunchuk), the need for at least an HD set, etc.
Wow, great circular argument ya got there. I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Santa doesn't exist either (see how dumb that sounds?). They don't exactly have any numbers saying they did make a few billion off the PS2. Investors like those statements. Sure they did a few billion in sales, but the dev costs of the system, manufacturing, and such nullify just about all of that money from being anywhere near what say Nintendo did in profits, and thats still if they managed to get into the black. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it looks good at a board meeting when you say your top of the heap, yet the last place loser in sales numbers has been making profits almost since inception of their product, not to mention numbers you dream of.
Yes, they make quarterly profits. Even the Xbox did that. Thats easy once you sink a ton of losses getting the first system out the door. With those costs factored in the PS2 made Sony very little money if any overall. Not to mention the failure rate of PS2s doesn't exactly help their bottom line. I'm an owner of 4 dead PS2s, and one mildly working PS2. It's easy to hit the numbers sold that they have with their system when the systems are that shoddily built.
Indeed...for an ill-fated console Nintendo sure made a ton of money while MS never got into the black, and as to if Sony ever got into the black is still up for debate. All the sources I know though point to that the PS2 never did make an overall profit. When it comes down to who will be around when investors want to ax divisions that aren't making money Nintendo will be the only one who doesn't have to worry.
Yeah just like how a game like Assassin's Creed was on the PS3 first, ported to the 360, and the PS3 version is the one that ended up with frame-rate issues XD
Yes, because the $800 comes even close to the horsepower of a $2400 Mac Tower. Mac =/= for a medium level PC buyer.
Thats soooo original man. When was the last time you honestly used a Mac? Multi button support has been there since OS9, and machines have shipped with two button mice for a very long time.
Unrelated, but do you happen to know any rental companies that don't rake you over the coals on cellphone plans in Japan by chance? I had a phone rental over the summer for a month, and the phone rental ended up costing almost as much as my plane tickets (what I get for leaving it up to an incompetent friend who'd been a bunch of times and supposedly "knew" what they were doing). I'm doing a 3 month excursion this Summer, and have no desire to deal with that highway robbery pricing scheme again.
How would that work given in China it's 119? Something about the Chinese government hates the US that stupidly.
It's sure stopped people from driving dangerous cars that utilize gasoline with all the different defects that have caused many cars to go up in flames for no reason than someone fucked up making the car. You know the consumer cares about safety first.
Well to each their own. It's largely a sandbox game, and many miss that easily. Most of the reviewers who give the game low marks can't figure that out. For many people that's also not what they want.
AC is completely off. What are you smoking? Any phone carried in the US by an operator has 3G on a different band than whats required in the rest of the world. Not to mention Softbank has GSM. Edge even pops up in odd places.
Ummm...k...please check your facts before posting ummm k? Even if it WAS 3G he would have bought it in the in the US to begin with, and it would have NOT worked on any provider's 3G network in Japan. US 3G =/= ROW 3G. US is the only country that uses a different frequency than the rest of the world. Not to mention if you knew jack all about cellphones you may know why Apple chose to hold off on 3G. The radios are massive (would almost double the thickness of the iPhone), and a big battery hog even in standby (why I rarely turn on the 3G radio in my Nokia N95 when out of the country). The new models which will be out in 2008 (iPhone 2.0 anyone?) will allow for the new iPhone to be just as thin, and are better about battery consumption, but considerably worse than 2/2.5G. Not to mention the iPhone works just fine in Japan. Softbank utilizes the regular GSM network. It's not DoCoMo type coverage, but it's sufficient, and works. The DoCoMo Foma phones are far more interesting to me than the iPhone imo though. I woulda kept mine this past summer when I took a month long R&R/Study session, but my phone wouldn't work in the US if I did.
Gota love the usual diply AC, and the mod who gave him informative.
I can rationalize all I want. If someone can't be bothered to create an account, let alone login I will happily treat their ideas as meaningless bullshit. Life is too short to deal with it when someone doesn't want to be part of a community. When people post AC they are either lazy, or hiding. In either case, their opinions are meant to be written off. No matter what, they have an ulterior motive thats anti-conducive to constructive criticism, and you know. Debate. I of course salute you sir for logging in, and keeping track of a discussion.