Funny how everyone trying to comment on this in opposition is from the US
All the Canadians in this thread who disagree with you are probably offended by this.
When you say 'Most people who have English as a second language make that mistake' you mean 'Most people in the US who weren't born and bred speaking our version of English didn't learn our colloquialisms'
You're a lousy psychic and even worse as a reader. I didn't say that. I said
The only people who get it wrong are either second language speakers of English (in which case it's not entirely their fault as other languages use the term differently)
That's not even close to your strawman interpretation. I did not say most second language speakers get it wrong. That isn't even a logical corollary of what I said.
Don't pretend you know what I meant when you don't even know what I said.
Fair enough, but don't assume you are center of the universe, and that everyone else is wrong just because you are always right
Stop being childish. If you want to disagree with me, that's fine, but you should 1)disagree with what I actually said, not something you made up and pretended I said, and 2)skip the irrelevant personal attacks. I never said or assumed any such thing. Again you're pretending I said and meant things I did.
If you're just going to argue with strawmen don't waste my time by arguing with them under my posts. I don't need the spam in my inbox.
America (singular) in common vernacular always refers to The United States of America. It's actually very simply and I can't figure out why people get this wrong. What is the name for people that live in Canada? Canadian. What is name for people that live in Mexico? Mexican. What is the name for people that live in The United States of America?..........
The only people who get it wrong are either second language speakers of English (in which case it's not entirely their fault as other languages use the term differently) and/or people trying to make a political point that they don't like the USA (in which case they're just being childish).
EM pulses only occur with high altitude bursts. They are not actually a product of the nuclear detonation itself; they are a secondary effect caused by the interaction between the bomb's gamma ray flux, air molecules, and the earth's magnetic field. This effect is minimized in low altitude bursts because the free electrons produced by the gamma rays colliding with atmospheric molecules are themselves stopped by other atmospheric molecules before they can travel any distance and interact with the magnetic field.
Short answer: The EMP of a surface level nuclear blast wouldn't affect anything not already destroyed by the blast. Even a conventional air blast like Hiroshima doesn't generate a substantial EMP beyond the blast area (note the Enola Gay did not lose its electrical systems, and no it wasn't shielded).
I must be missing something in my parent's posts because I see him saying "Appeasement was a great strategy because it only caused 60 million people to die."
I don't mean this as an insult and I was once of a similar mind. But, I'm going to guess that you have been restricted (willfully or culturally) to an Americanized history of WWII. Read (or watch) about the events of the 1930s in western and central Europe. France and England stood by and LET Hitler take what he wanted with Chamberlain signing non-aggression pacts and getting autographed night stand pictures of Hitler all because of the sour taste that WWI left in the mouths of Europeans. I'll chalk it up to American education (left over from the Cold War) and not hold it against you all that much.
You think you're telling me stuff I don't know, but you're not. In fact, I don't know what the fuck you think I was taught in high school since you're just repeated what I was taught in high school.
I haven't had my coffee yet today, so I'm going to assume you're being ironic since the other possibility is too insane for this time of day (it's only noon in my timezone).
Depends. I'm not familiar with the geography of Oakland's or New York's harbors, but a low yield nuke in the LA-Long Beach port would probably have (relatively) few immediate casualties. The port itself is huge, and the surrounding area relatively under-populated (compared to other areas of the city). The Hiroshima blast radius was only about 1 mile with little direct structural damage outside that radius. Such a blast at the LA port would still probably kill thousands, but very likely far less than Hiroshima did. They ensuing chaos (we Angelenos LOVE a good riot) would probably kill as many people as the bomb.
My guess would be that Oakland would be even less severe, and New York would be worse.
You don't get to be snarky after you stick your foot in an error of that magnitude (the kind of error of understanding that biblical literalists feed on like pigs on shit). Of course I know what it means.
Anyway, I was trying to be clever in the context of a silly proposition, I'm not really asserting that there being a single human female at some time in history is a scientifically proven fact.
Then you should try saying what you mean. Or at least using discernible irony.
Do you have any reference for that? Which word in the original implies simultaneity?
In regards to your second point - the word for "god" (lowercase g) is the same word in both chapters
You...you can't be that stupid. You're using a computer, so...you're punking us right?
Here's a protip: Genesis was not written in English. Capital letters in the sense that we know them did not exist at the time it was written. You're literally using a translator's errors as your evidence for Biblical "inerrancy" (which I'm pretty sure is a made up word. Infallibility is the word you are looking for).
Well, it is generally accepted that we are all matrilinearly decended from the same woman, Mitochondrial Eve [wikipedia.org], I think this pretty much scientifically disproves there being two women at creation, unless one mothered no daughters.
Sigh. Did you even read the article you linked? Because it doesn't mean or say what you think it does.
They are completely different organizations. USPS is the United States Postal Service, i.e. the government corporation that pretends to deliver crap. UPS = United Parcel Service, i.e. those brown-shirted dudes who intentionally smash your package with hammers to make it fit in the truck.
Oh, I get the point that we are not entitled to use these products, because we aren't paying for them.
Yes, we were. We paid for them with the data Google uses to sell us advertisements. Moreover their shut-down incurs definite migration costs.
We have every right to complain.
Of course, Google has every right to ignore us and shut down whatever they want, but the claim that we weren't paying for them so we should shut up about it is moronic.
I didn't dance around the issue. I gave a very straight forward answer. Most cases of emotional harm do not constitute damage. Some do, most do not. It's pretty fucking simple.
If I say in public that Santa Claus was killed in a car crash, it doesn't matter how many children's dreams I crushed. It doesn't constitute damage. If it did, you could never say anything in public because for every possible statement there is someone, somewhere who will be "damaged" by it.
So the adult who lied to a mentally ill minor with the intent to harm, and convinced the child to commit suicide didn't cause harm because emotional harm isn't harm?
You are aware of the substantial difference between the words MOST and ALL, aren't you? Stop jerking the strawman around.
I guess bruises aren't harm either, as they are just pain without damage, and generally heal to 100%, so no demonstrable damage, right?
I guess you don't know what a bruise is if you think it's "just pain without damage."
I see you like strawmen the way some people like cocaine. A little too much.
Not in most cases (life sucks and then you die, get over it). Even where it is, the damage should be proven if there's going to be a penalty. Unless damage can be proven, then there still should be no crime.
In short, the STATEMENT should never be illegal in and of itself. Causing damage (of various kinds) should be, but the damage should also be demonstrable.
No. Lying is not an action in either case. Taking the money is an action. Cutting someone with a scalpel is an action.
The point is that the lying causes no damages. It is the action that follows the lie that causes the damages, so that is what should be (and in the US is) illegal. If there is no damage, why should there be a crime?
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Funny how everyone trying to comment on this in opposition is from the US
All the Canadians in this thread who disagree with you are probably offended by this.
When you say 'Most people who have English as a second language make that mistake' you mean 'Most people in the US who weren't born and bred speaking our version of English didn't learn our colloquialisms'
You're a lousy psychic and even worse as a reader. I didn't say that. I said
The only people who get it wrong are either second language speakers of English (in which case it's not entirely their fault as other languages use the term differently)
That's not even close to your strawman interpretation. I did not say most second language speakers get it wrong. That isn't even a logical corollary of what I said.
Don't pretend you know what I meant when you don't even know what I said.
Fair enough, but don't assume you are center of the universe, and that everyone else is wrong just because you are always right
Stop being childish. If you want to disagree with me, that's fine, but you should 1)disagree with what I actually said, not something you made up and pretended I said, and 2)skip the irrelevant personal attacks. I never said or assumed any such thing. Again you're pretending I said and meant things I did.
If you're just going to argue with strawmen don't waste my time by arguing with them under my posts. I don't need the spam in my inbox.
America (singular) in common vernacular always refers to The United States of America. It's actually very simply and I can't figure out why people get this wrong. What is the name for people that live in Canada? Canadian. What is name for people that live in Mexico? Mexican. What is the name for people that live in The United States of America? ..........
The only people who get it wrong are either second language speakers of English (in which case it's not entirely their fault as other languages use the term differently) and/or people trying to make a political point that they don't like the USA (in which case they're just being childish).
Actually it's how you pronounce Chinese in Chinese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese
Hanging out with friends doesn't leave you with anything to show for the time spent
That phrase is not normally used so literally. Healthy, satisfying relationships ARE something you can show for your effort.
EM pulses only occur with high altitude bursts. They are not actually a product of the nuclear detonation itself; they are a secondary effect caused by the interaction between the bomb's gamma ray flux, air molecules, and the earth's magnetic field. This effect is minimized in low altitude bursts because the free electrons produced by the gamma rays colliding with atmospheric molecules are themselves stopped by other atmospheric molecules before they can travel any distance and interact with the magnetic field.
Short answer: The EMP of a surface level nuclear blast wouldn't affect anything not already destroyed by the blast. Even a conventional air blast like Hiroshima doesn't generate a substantial EMP beyond the blast area (note the Enola Gay did not lose its electrical systems, and no it wasn't shielded).
I must be missing something in my parent's posts because I see him saying "Appeasement was a great strategy because it only caused 60 million people to die."
I don't mean this as an insult and I was once of a similar mind. But, I'm going to guess that you have been restricted (willfully or culturally) to an Americanized history of WWII. Read (or watch) about the events of the 1930s in western and central Europe. France and England stood by and LET Hitler take what he wanted with Chamberlain signing non-aggression pacts and getting autographed night stand pictures of Hitler all because of the sour taste that WWI left in the mouths of Europeans. I'll chalk it up to American education (left over from the Cold War) and not hold it against you all that much.
You think you're telling me stuff I don't know, but you're not. In fact, I don't know what the fuck you think I was taught in high school since you're just repeated what I was taught in high school.
I haven't had my coffee yet today, so I'm going to assume you're being ironic since the other possibility is too insane for this time of day (it's only noon in my timezone).
Depends. I'm not familiar with the geography of Oakland's or New York's harbors, but a low yield nuke in the LA-Long Beach port would probably have (relatively) few immediate casualties. The port itself is huge, and the surrounding area relatively under-populated (compared to other areas of the city). The Hiroshima blast radius was only about 1 mile with little direct structural damage outside that radius. Such a blast at the LA port would still probably kill thousands, but very likely far less than Hiroshima did. They ensuing chaos (we Angelenos LOVE a good riot) would probably kill as many people as the bomb.
My guess would be that Oakland would be even less severe, and New York would be worse.
You're going to have to explain that one to us.
Do you know what "matrilinearly decended" means?
You don't get to be snarky after you stick your foot in an error of that magnitude (the kind of error of understanding that biblical literalists feed on like pigs on shit). Of course I know what it means.
Anyway, I was trying to be clever in the context of a silly proposition, I'm not really asserting that there being a single human female at some time in history is a scientifically proven fact.
Then you should try saying what you mean. Or at least using discernible irony.
Yes, and those are translator's errors, meaning that the original text doesn't say what the English says.
You should try looking up the difference between Yahweh and Elohim sometime.
C....M....B.....
You haven't had your coffee yet, right? Because it's Cosmic Microwave Background. You know, so the middle word starts with the M in CMB.
Do you have any reference for that? Which word in the original implies simultaneity?
In regards to your second point - the word for "god" (lowercase g) is the same word in both chapters
You...you can't be that stupid. You're using a computer, so...you're punking us right?
Here's a protip: Genesis was not written in English. Capital letters in the sense that we know them did not exist at the time it was written. You're literally using a translator's errors as your evidence for Biblical "inerrancy" (which I'm pretty sure is a made up word. Infallibility is the word you are looking for).
Well, it is generally accepted that we are all matrilinearly decended from the same woman, Mitochondrial Eve [wikipedia.org], I think this pretty much scientifically disproves there being two women at creation, unless one mothered no daughters.
Sigh. Did you even read the article you linked? Because it doesn't mean or say what you think it does.
TFA has nothing to do with the Gulf Stream. It's the JET STREAM, a completely different phenomenon.
In fact, I'd rather meet the other 3 on the sidewalk none of whom were known for PERSONALLY committing acts of violence against random innocents.
USPS != UPS
They are completely different organizations. USPS is the United States Postal Service, i.e. the government corporation that pretends to deliver crap. UPS = United Parcel Service, i.e. those brown-shirted dudes who intentionally smash your package with hammers to make it fit in the truck.
Pressure AND heat. Carbon fiber would likely burn.
Long ago rifle barrels didn't have to withstand the kind of pressure they do now.
Oh, I get the point that we are not entitled to use these products, because we aren't paying for them.
Yes, we were. We paid for them with the data Google uses to sell us advertisements. Moreover their shut-down incurs definite migration costs.
We have every right to complain.
Of course, Google has every right to ignore us and shut down whatever they want, but the claim that we weren't paying for them so we should shut up about it is moronic.
Oh good, so she's just a blithering idiot.
I didn't dance around the issue. I gave a very straight forward answer. Most cases of emotional harm do not constitute damage. Some do, most do not. It's pretty fucking simple.
If I say in public that Santa Claus was killed in a car crash, it doesn't matter how many children's dreams I crushed. It doesn't constitute damage. If it did, you could never say anything in public because for every possible statement there is someone, somewhere who will be "damaged" by it.
So the adult who lied to a mentally ill minor with the intent to harm, and convinced the child to commit suicide didn't cause harm because emotional harm isn't harm?
You are aware of the substantial difference between the words MOST and ALL, aren't you? Stop jerking the strawman around.
I guess bruises aren't harm either, as they are just pain without damage, and generally heal to 100%, so no demonstrable damage, right?
I guess you don't know what a bruise is if you think it's "just pain without damage."
I see you like strawmen the way some people like cocaine. A little too much.
Not in most cases (life sucks and then you die, get over it). Even where it is, the damage should be proven if there's going to be a penalty. Unless damage can be proven, then there still should be no crime.
In short, the STATEMENT should never be illegal in and of itself. Causing damage (of various kinds) should be, but the damage should also be demonstrable.
No. Lying is not an action in either case. Taking the money is an action. Cutting someone with a scalpel is an action.
The point is that the lying causes no damages. It is the action that follows the lie that causes the damages, so that is what should be (and in the US is) illegal. If there is no damage, why should there be a crime?