Right, but it was a bogus move for a school district to try to give "Foreign Language" credit for it
Assuming that you're referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Ebonics_controversy, they weren't trying to get Foreign Language credit for it, they were trying to get bilingual education funding for it, meaning that they wanted to treat kids coming into the district speaking only AAVE the same as kids coming in who spoke only Spanish.
You're absolutely right that they tried to base this on flat-out wrong claims (AAVE is not a separate language), but it is arguable that bilingual instruction methods would be advantageous to kids who enter school speaking only AAVE, at least until they have sufficient mastery of standard English (and programs implementing such approaches in inner cities with large proportions of african-american students have been successful in bringing up standard english reading levels substantially).
Likewise, native AAVE speakers should still be expected to learn proper [American] English.
What does the Slackware experience bring to the table that distinguishes it from other distros, beyond a certain level of nostalgia?
1) Most Unix-like of the Linux systems (may or may not be something you care about).
The big reason I like this aspect of Slackware is summed up by the old saying: If you learn Red Hat, you know Red Hat. If you learn Debian, you know Debian. If you learn Slackware, you know Linux.
2) Stability as #1 development priority, Security as #2, everything else isn't even on the radar (so if you want a system that never needs a reboot, Slackware's your distro. If you want a 64bit system....well, it just got there. If you want bleeding edge...compile it yourself.).
3) Total control and heavy involvement in the system internals (though I hear Gentoo offers as much).
This is another major aspect for me. It's isn't one for everyone though, and I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. But if you want to know how your system works, and you want to learn Linux sysadmining, Slackware is for you. I like it because I'm the computer equivalent of a gearhead, I get a kick out of it. Again, absolutely not for everyone.
In short, Slackware doesn't try to be a desktop OS that holds your hand and wipes your ass. You get the tools you need and you're off on your own. Some people like that. Some don't. If you don't, then fine. But don't come in here and try to shit on those of us that do. I don't shit on your (rhetorical you, not necessarily referring to parent or any other specific value of "you") hobbies. Slackware never tried to be a mainstream, mass-market system. It's Pat Volkerding's personal operating system. If you like it, he provides it so you can use it too. If you don't, bugger off then.
I can remember reading about the publishing of an Ebonics bible (back in the '80s I think).
Except that Ebonics (more properly termed AAVE) is actually a well-formed dialect with a consistent (and different) grammar. The differences between AAVE and standard English are not arbitrary and not errors (in the sense that errors are unintentional and do not convey additional meaning, whereas the modifications of AAVE actually convey different meaning). AAVE seems like bad grammar to those who don't understand it, but it's not. It is DIFFERENT grammar, but it is equally consistent (and in some aspects MORE precise than) as standard English.
I've come across so *many* people who just think it's a matter of changing your mind. Trust me, I try.
Why don't dumb people *choose* to be intelligent? Nearly everyone with any hint of ego or self-respect *wants* that...
Whenever try to give me that crap I explain to them that it's like sexual arousal. A man sees a woman walking down the street. He thinks to himself that she's attractive, he ogles a bit, and he moves on. He cannot control it, it is an automatic response to the stimulus. His brain is wired that way and the best he can do is restrain himself from raping the woman on the sidewalk.
The way that man feels sexual arousal, I feel anxiety/paranoia/suicidal impulses. The best I can do is suppress and ignore them, but that does not make them go away.
Yeah, no its not. Sometimes it is, but it can also be 'user-interface lag,' which is going to be the one people are more concerned about (and in some cases will include network lag). I press button Z, and get no feedback for...1...2...3...4...5...ah there it is!
That is user-interface lag, and it doesn't matter if it is caused by network latency, paging memory into (or out of) RAM, or waiting on the processor to stop fscking a daemon so it can calculate your damage roll.
For one, it isn't being done with police samples, and it would be utterly stupid to do so, and not for the reason you think.
It is unlikely that any two cells selected at random from your body share exactly the same DNA. Every cell division introduces errors. Some of these errors cause the new cells to malfunction and die (or malfunction and become cancer), but many will not. A total DNA comparison would rarely, if ever, return a perfect match except by chance (either the chance of having picked the right two cells, or having randomly matched a person who the sample didn't come from).
Your DNA is not a uniform monolith throughout your body (and in fact, there are people with multiple sets of DNA in different parts of their body--not from replication errors, but from multiple fertilization). Total DNA matching would be useless.
Congratulations, you know nothing about how DNA matching works.
Example:
In the OJ Simpson case, the odds of a chance match as good as OJ's were 1 in 170 million. Not even close to 1 in 6 billion. From a 1 in 170 million odds of a random match that means that the median number of random matches in a population of 6 billion on the planet would be 51 random matches, with standard deviation of seven.
In the case of Nichole's blood on the sock there was a 1 in 21 billion chance of a random match. In a population of 6 billion we would then expect a median of 0.41 random matches, with a standard deviation of 0.64.
In the first case the match is pretty weak (unlikelier things occur every day). In the second however, we can say that there is a 97.8% chance that no other human being on the planet matches the blood samples on the socks, and that even in 2.2% chance that there is, the odds of them being around OJ to get their blood on the socks is vanishingly small.
If we take into account both data points at once, the numbers get even smaller.
But nowhere, in any of this, did the DNA samples uniquely identify a person. That isn't how they work (and in fact, it is completely impossible given that some people do not have a single a set of DNA). What DNA samples do is establish the probability that they match a person--and when you take into account multiple samples from multiple persons (OJ's blood at the crime scene, and Nichole's blood on his socks--not multiple samples from the same person at the same place) it can be a very good identifier.
the DOJ shouldn't be weighing in on a civil case in the first place
They aren't. They're weighing in on the validity of a law (specifically the statuatory damages clause) passed by congress. That is part of their job. They aren't weighing in on the question of guilt or anything of the sort (which would be thoroughly inappropriate).
It's not stealing, or rather it is not theft of chattels, which is what 'stealing' or 'theft' in a legal sense refers to. It is something entirely different. You can make a case that it is not completely dissimilar, but there are important, fundamental differences between the two. To ignore these differences is to abandon logic and reason.
If only there was a term that captured that difference...oh wait there is. It's 'copyright infringement'.
You fail basic economics. Any industry sustained by government expenditure--whether that is subsidies or payment for survices--is a net GDP loss to the economy. That includes Defense.
Now, in some cases (such as Defense), there are externality effects that produce positive effects (such as not having your cities bombed). But those positive effects have nothing to do with the jobs (high tech or otherwise), which are themselves a net drain on the economy.
You are your job. You are how much money you have in the bank. You are your shit-stained sofa, your paper lamps, your pretty glassware with little bubbles in it so you now it was handmade by the proud indigenous people of wherever.
Her refusal to return to the workforce following Andreinne's entrance into school at that obscenely expensive school on 18th street that would have been nicely tackled by Andrea's old salary--instead she was at home, finding herself, while Neil continuted finding his way through all the stresses of work, keeping that automatic deposit automatically depositing.
That sentence made me throw up. 3 adverbs, 10 unnecessary words, and a convoluted structure that would make Hemingway kill himself again. Unless his editor is Christ, Buddha, and an invisible pink fucking unicorn rolled into one, there is no hope.
And is irrelevant to his point. The comparison was between a paper subscription, which is not private and is cheaper, and buying it everyday at the bookstore, which is private and more expensive.
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Right, but it was a bogus move for a school district to try to give "Foreign Language" credit for it
Assuming that you're referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_Ebonics_controversy, they weren't trying to get Foreign Language credit for it, they were trying to get bilingual education funding for it, meaning that they wanted to treat kids coming into the district speaking only AAVE the same as kids coming in who spoke only Spanish.
You're absolutely right that they tried to base this on flat-out wrong claims (AAVE is not a separate language), but it is arguable that bilingual instruction methods would be advantageous to kids who enter school speaking only AAVE, at least until they have sufficient mastery of standard English (and programs implementing such approaches in inner cities with large proportions of african-american students have been successful in bringing up standard english reading levels substantially).
Likewise, native AAVE speakers should still be expected to learn proper [American] English.
Absolutely.
What does the Slackware experience bring to the table that distinguishes it from other distros, beyond a certain level of nostalgia?
1) Most Unix-like of the Linux systems (may or may not be something you care about).
The big reason I like this aspect of Slackware is summed up by the old saying: If you learn Red Hat, you know Red Hat. If you learn Debian, you know Debian. If you learn Slackware, you know Linux.
2) Stability as #1 development priority, Security as #2, everything else isn't even on the radar (so if you want a system that never needs a reboot, Slackware's your distro. If you want a 64bit system....well, it just got there. If you want bleeding edge...compile it yourself.).
3) Total control and heavy involvement in the system internals (though I hear Gentoo offers as much).
This is another major aspect for me. It's isn't one for everyone though, and I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. But if you want to know how your system works, and you want to learn Linux sysadmining, Slackware is for you. I like it because I'm the computer equivalent of a gearhead, I get a kick out of it. Again, absolutely not for everyone.
In short, Slackware doesn't try to be a desktop OS that holds your hand and wipes your ass. You get the tools you need and you're off on your own. Some people like that. Some don't. If you don't, then fine. But don't come in here and try to shit on those of us that do. I don't shit on your (rhetorical you, not necessarily referring to parent or any other specific value of "you") hobbies. Slackware never tried to be a mainstream, mass-market system. It's Pat Volkerding's personal operating system. If you like it, he provides it so you can use it too. If you don't, bugger off then.
I can remember reading about the publishing of an Ebonics bible (back in the '80s I think).
Except that Ebonics (more properly termed AAVE) is actually a well-formed dialect with a consistent (and different) grammar. The differences between AAVE and standard English are not arbitrary and not errors (in the sense that errors are unintentional and do not convey additional meaning, whereas the modifications of AAVE actually convey different meaning). AAVE seems like bad grammar to those who don't understand it, but it's not. It is DIFFERENT grammar, but it is equally consistent (and in some aspects MORE precise than) as standard English.
I've come across so *many* people who just think it's a matter of changing your mind. Trust me, I try.
Why don't dumb people *choose* to be intelligent? Nearly everyone with any hint of ego or self-respect *wants* that...
Whenever try to give me that crap I explain to them that it's like sexual arousal. A man sees a woman walking down the street. He thinks to himself that she's attractive, he ogles a bit, and he moves on. He cannot control it, it is an automatic response to the stimulus. His brain is wired that way and the best he can do is restrain himself from raping the woman on the sidewalk.
The way that man feels sexual arousal, I feel anxiety/paranoia/suicidal impulses. The best I can do is suppress and ignore them, but that does not make them go away.
This has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT. These sporting organizations are not the fucking fuzz. GGP was a one note troll.
Yeah, no its not. Sometimes it is, but it can also be 'user-interface lag,' which is going to be the one people are more concerned about (and in some cases will include network lag). I press button Z, and get no feedback for...1...2...3...4...5...ah there it is!
That is user-interface lag, and it doesn't matter if it is caused by network latency, paging memory into (or out of) RAM, or waiting on the processor to stop fscking a daemon so it can calculate your damage roll.
Yeah, but they'll all be dead in five years from old age.
For one, it isn't being done with police samples, and it would be utterly stupid to do so, and not for the reason you think.
It is unlikely that any two cells selected at random from your body share exactly the same DNA. Every cell division introduces errors. Some of these errors cause the new cells to malfunction and die (or malfunction and become cancer), but many will not. A total DNA comparison would rarely, if ever, return a perfect match except by chance (either the chance of having picked the right two cells, or having randomly matched a person who the sample didn't come from).
Your DNA is not a uniform monolith throughout your body (and in fact, there are people with multiple sets of DNA in different parts of their body--not from replication errors, but from multiple fertilization). Total DNA matching would be useless.
Congratulations, you know nothing about how DNA matching works.
Example:
In the OJ Simpson case, the odds of a chance match as good as OJ's were 1 in 170 million. Not even close to 1 in 6 billion. From a 1 in 170 million odds of a random match that means that the median number of random matches in a population of 6 billion on the planet would be 51 random matches, with standard deviation of seven.
In the case of Nichole's blood on the sock there was a 1 in 21 billion chance of a random match. In a population of 6 billion we would then expect a median of 0.41 random matches, with a standard deviation of 0.64.
In the first case the match is pretty weak (unlikelier things occur every day). In the second however, we can say that there is a 97.8% chance that no other human being on the planet matches the blood samples on the socks, and that even in 2.2% chance that there is, the odds of them being around OJ to get their blood on the socks is vanishingly small.
If we take into account both data points at once, the numbers get even smaller.
But nowhere, in any of this, did the DNA samples uniquely identify a person. That isn't how they work (and in fact, it is completely impossible given that some people do not have a single a set of DNA). What DNA samples do is establish the probability that they match a person--and when you take into account multiple samples from multiple persons (OJ's blood at the crime scene, and Nichole's blood on his socks--not multiple samples from the same person at the same place) it can be a very good identifier.
If I had mod points, I'd have modded him down because and Anonymous Cowardon recommended him. Very Informative.
He's a captain, not a colonel.
the DOJ shouldn't be weighing in on a civil case in the first place
They aren't. They're weighing in on the validity of a law (specifically the statuatory damages clause) passed by congress. That is part of their job. They aren't weighing in on the question of guilt or anything of the sort (which would be thoroughly inappropriate).
Except the price is artificially high because the labels are all in collusion (opinion)
No, documented fact. Hence why they keep getting hit with fines for anti-trust/price-fixing violations.
It's not stealing, or rather it is not theft of chattels, which is what 'stealing' or 'theft' in a legal sense refers to. It is something entirely different. You can make a case that it is not completely dissimilar, but there are important, fundamental differences between the two. To ignore these differences is to abandon logic and reason.
If only there was a term that captured that difference...oh wait there is. It's 'copyright infringement'.
Zachary Quinto?
You fail basic economics. Any industry sustained by government expenditure--whether that is subsidies or payment for survices--is a net GDP loss to the economy. That includes Defense.
Now, in some cases (such as Defense), there are externality effects that produce positive effects (such as not having your cities bombed). But those positive effects have nothing to do with the jobs (high tech or otherwise), which are themselves a net drain on the economy.
Well by that logic 99% of windows users haven't used a real windows machine either.
Congratulations, you figured out the whole point of this thread.
Cookie?
You are your job. You are how much money you have in the bank. You are your shit-stained sofa, your paper lamps, your pretty glassware with little bubbles in it so you now it was handmade by the proud indigenous people of wherever.
Her refusal to return to the workforce following Andreinne's entrance into school at that obscenely expensive school on 18th street that would have been nicely tackled by Andrea's old salary--instead she was at home, finding herself, while Neil continuted finding his way through all the stresses of work, keeping that automatic deposit automatically depositing.
That sentence made me throw up. 3 adverbs, 10 unnecessary words, and a convoluted structure that would make Hemingway kill himself again. Unless his editor is Christ, Buddha, and an invisible pink fucking unicorn rolled into one, there is no hope.
Why, oh why, did I blow my mod points on goatse links?
Then you've got it backwards, it's the fembot who should be sucking.
Need a -1 Unclever mod right about now. Though Redundant works too I guess.
And is irrelevant to his point. The comparison was between a paper subscription, which is not private and is cheaper, and buying it everyday at the bookstore, which is private and more expensive.
I thought sucking at drawing was the point of manbearpig. I mean, a well drawn manbearpig porn would be LESS erotic than a poorly drawn one.