To have a complete virtualization solution, you need to also virtualize the rest of the hardware: storage, graphics, input/output, etc.
Kripkenstein mentions the dirty little secret that Intel doesnt tell you. Virtualization of the CPU is just that, CPU Virtualization, the memory management, peripherals, and IO hardware is still managed mostly by a host OS.
So, Software is faster until the CPU vendor includes a bios and chipset thats more virtualized oriented.
Vmware's main advantage is they provide the host OS for enterprise users without modifying the guest OS, which Xen requires the guest to be modified.
I dont see Vmware going anywhere, they still give bang for the buck for server consolidation and server control for a large datacenter. I use a bunch of Solaris servers for distributing load, and would love to have the easy replication and managment that vmware offers. And now with Sun using x86 cpis, I might just get that.
Its their hobby, can be cars, motorcycles, boats, video games, movies, etc. Nothing wrong with spending money on your main hobby, and a quad SLI system is still cheaper than a tricked out Honda Civic or home theater.
Maybe someone should put up a free proxy with banner ads in the top. Doing proxy in a frame. Somehow make a couple bux outta it. Maybe offer some service as a Boss button, and quick links to sites, strip gfx, etc. Maybe force to view 1 sponsored ad. If you want to use it enough, people will use it.
Myself, I just use ssh and tunnel to my home unix box running squid for this reason. SSH is almost always allowed...
F5 makes some nice OS based routers. The ones I have are using Linux based, they switched from BSD, but from the GUI you wouldn't ever know.
Plus with F5 based in Seattle, they get to have nice onsite support for the big players. Cost and performance wise, F5 is doing pretty well with open source.
Just wondering, of all the guys, his testimony against him from people who cut deals for less time. And he did in the past urge for strong accounting practices. As for loans, everyone took loans out, was a common practice. In the end they got him for 6 counts? Far less than everyone else.
Seems the government wanted him no matter what. Didnt he actually loose almost 90% of his money because he kept enron stock?
Dont know, but He seems like an escape goat to me. Worked his way up, had his PHD, and did alot for the community.
I dont like when the government offers deals, most people will lie to get a sentence reduced to 5 years.
Dell has some great deals for weekends only or dell coupons. I picked up a dual core 2.8ghz and a 24 inch widescreen lcd for 1200 bux. Picked up a 7800 GT from monarch for 250, and bam, kick ass system. (Now to drop in a D940 for Hardware VM Xen)
My last dell catalog had 19inch LCD's with D820, 1 gig ram, DVDR for 499, 3 days only.
Gotta check the dell coupon sites daily, and buy when its 500-800 bux cheaper.
I use to buy AMD boxes, but for linux boxes, dell has some cheap hardware thats linux fully supports at a great costs. I even seen the cheaper dells with 2.6hz dual cpu's with a 17inch LCD 512 megs ram for 299. Awesome linux desktop.
Thats the dirty little secret, scheduled downtime. As long as you schedule the downtime, its still carrier grade. I've yet to see a service even with maintenance windows stay up for a month. Service in terms of big pile of servers running multiple applications with a big fat database cluster behind it. YMMV.
The install is very clean and polished, but lacking applications and driver support. Its a great desktop for bare bones web browsing, but daily use needs lots of configuration.
Applications you use daily are not included in Fedora 1. so you have to add the 3rd party rpm repositories. 2. Then if you have the built in firewall turned on you have to add rules for bittorrent, etc. 3. Want to play video games? Have to install nvidia/ati drivers. 4. Want divx or mp3 codecs? Not installed. 5. Java or macromedia support for firefox? Not installed again. 6. NTFS support not installed, mp3s are prob on a NTFS parition. 7. Tweak away, ms fonts, VLC, x11 setup, etc.
Really, fedora isnt the best choice for a linux desktop for a beginner, you have too much configuration. Its a nice polished server OS, or bare basic workstation, but its limited due to licensing.
I'd recommend SuSE professional for a more complete install that you dont have to manually tweak. Ubuntu has the same problems as Fedora, applications/codecs are not included. There are 3rd party applications that close the loophole for ubuntu.
I stopped using Mandriva the last couple releases due to error prone installs if you dont use the default settings. It includes more of the applications you need, but you have to pay for support.
Saying unions are bad is rather uninformed, and trollish.
Unions where really needed 30+ years ago due to work conditions, people where dieing. Now that we have safety issues that are under government control, safety can normally be a non-union concept.
Whats left is working hours, benefits (medical), and pay.
I would love to see laws governing working hours, people die at hospitals due to overworked doctors and lack of nursing. How many hours should someone work a week, 60, 80? Or maybe only 30. When people have more free time it increases economic trade and a better quality of life.
Now America has no national medical system, and companies cant sustain the insane profit margins without cutting medical or retirement benefits to its employees. This is the sad part, you can give up pay for benefits, but this should only be used for emergencies, not to help the share holders profit every other year.
If companies can pay less they will, walmart is the perfect example. Walmart skirts benefits with low hours, and normally pay the lowest wages allowed. The only reason we have a middle class in America is due to unions, most unions are construction/trade based, the backbone of most societies.
America is highly anti-labor friendly they have busted unions with the help of local governments.
Now I'm talking about unions for masses, not high end professional engineering contractors. There will always be a market to pay high wages for the highly skilled, well, unless it can be offshored.
Dont forget the tango that came out in 2004, electric and does 0-60 in 4 seconds. Also kinda neat that it came out in Spokane Washington and not backed by a bunch of Silicon Valley money men.
So, there are all these sites wanting to show ad's and google wont let them. WHERE is the alternatives? Come on, if google wont spent 10 minutes and at least email the website author with more details than "you fucked up, bye bye" Maybe its time to drop google.
If google is this fucked up, why keep using it. Sounds like some other company needs to step in and fill the void. I'm rather tired of googles "fuck you" attitude towards webmasters in these slashdot posts.
Would be nice if all the artwork and music for demos and boot loaders where kept around. The digital expression that kick started the video game industry and hackers turned video game producers should be kept around.
Entire parts of the digital, pre-internet history are being lost with new technology.
Better yet, tattoo your ID number on your forearm.
For a society built on the horrors of history of prejudice, persecution and corrupt governments, why do you think America is different? Its corrupt as you let it get, by looking at our history, enron, ibm and ww2, mississippi voters rights, bank scandels, iraq, war on drugs, dmca, to name a couple, its corrupt enough already.
I think its already lost, Americans are too lazy to care.
You can make a bartpe dvd with all the drivers installed to work on most hardware. There is a DVD floating around on BT sites that have an updated winxp with all patches/drivers and some needed applications. But I recommend making one yourself for security reasons. (rootkit/etc)
Move your phone to the floor or behind you, i find 2 feet away from the speakers works. When I'm in the car, I dont put my phone in the phone holder anymore, I put it on the seat next to me.
Also dont put it next to your alarm clock, thats a bitch to be woken up to that BZZZT screech.
Core will excel on the types of applications that will make up the vast majority of server and consumer code in the near to medium term. And because it's designed for relatively low core-count multicore, it will help the software industry gradually make the transition to multithreaded code.
Ok, the conclusion is off, single threaded cores are for the desktop. Multicore is when you need the highest connections with the lowest latency. Hyperthreading helps by fighting memory latency, but they havent put hyperthreading in it yet.
Now, after they add hyperthreading back in, add 64 bit support, and virtualization like the p4 line, it will truely be the next cpu for 4 years.
Of course, AMD isnt just sitting back and doing nothing.
Slashdot Mirror
"protect and serve" has been replaced by "generate revenue and destroy liberties".
To have a complete virtualization solution, you need to also virtualize the rest of the hardware: storage, graphics, input/output, etc.
Kripkenstein mentions the dirty little secret that Intel doesnt tell you. Virtualization of the CPU is just that, CPU Virtualization, the memory management, peripherals, and IO hardware is still managed mostly by a host OS.
So, Software is faster until the CPU vendor includes a bios and chipset thats more virtualized oriented.
Vmware's main advantage is they provide the host OS for enterprise users without modifying the guest OS, which Xen requires the guest to be modified.
I dont see Vmware going anywhere, they still give bang for the buck for server consolidation and server control for a large datacenter. I use a bunch of Solaris servers for distributing load, and would love to have the easy replication and managment that vmware offers. And now with Sun using x86 cpis, I might just get that.
Its their hobby, can be cars, motorcycles, boats, video games, movies, etc. Nothing wrong with spending money on your main hobby, and a quad SLI system is still cheaper than a tricked out Honda Civic or home theater.
Maybe someone should put up a free proxy with banner ads in the top. Doing proxy in a frame.
Somehow make a couple bux outta it. Maybe offer some service as a Boss button, and quick links to sites, strip gfx, etc. Maybe force to view 1 sponsored ad. If you want to use it enough, people will use it.
Myself, I just use ssh and tunnel to my home unix box running squid for this reason. SSH is almost always allowed...
F5 makes some nice OS based routers. The ones I have are using Linux based, they switched from BSD, but from the GUI you wouldn't ever know.
Plus with F5 based in Seattle, they get to have nice onsite support for the big players. Cost and performance wise, F5 is doing pretty well with open source.
Just wondering, of all the guys, his testimony against him from people who cut deals for less time. And he did in the past urge for strong accounting practices. As for loans, everyone took loans out, was a common practice. In the end they got him for 6 counts? Far less than everyone else.
Seems the government wanted him no matter what. Didnt he actually loose almost 90% of his money because he kept enron stock?
Dont know, but He seems like an escape goat to me. Worked his way up, had his PHD, and did alot for the community.
I dont like when the government offers deals, most people will lie to get a sentence reduced to 5 years.
Dell has some great deals for weekends only or dell coupons. I picked up a dual core 2.8ghz and a 24 inch widescreen lcd for 1200 bux. Picked up a 7800 GT from monarch for 250, and bam, kick ass system. (Now to drop in a D940 for Hardware VM Xen)
My last dell catalog had 19inch LCD's with D820, 1 gig ram, DVDR for 499, 3 days only.
Gotta check the dell coupon sites daily, and buy when its 500-800 bux cheaper.
I use to buy AMD boxes, but for linux boxes, dell has some cheap hardware thats linux fully supports at a great costs. I even seen the cheaper dells with 2.6hz dual cpu's with a 17inch LCD 512 megs ram for 299. Awesome linux desktop.
We already have ~way~ too many landmines, and way too many innocents being killed or disabled by them.
But its not American Innocents. Until a problem hits home, we tend to not care. What greenhouse gases? What oil shortage? Terrorism?
ROI today, not tomorrow, is the American Motto.
Thats the dirty little secret, scheduled downtime. As long as you schedule the downtime, its still carrier grade. I've yet to see a service even with maintenance windows stay up for a month. Service in terms of big pile of servers running multiple applications with a big fat database cluster behind it. YMMV.
Flaimbait? Guess some fedora people with points got pissed about the truth.
Kinda reminded me of a old game, Populous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populous
Or you could just live life, with Taxes, Divorce, Child support, Traffic Tickets, Cancer, Disease, War, Poverty, Mother in laws.
Its horrible out there.
Just how hard is it?
The install is very clean and polished, but lacking applications and driver support. Its a great desktop for bare bones web browsing, but daily use needs lots of configuration.
Applications you use daily are not included in Fedora
1. so you have to add the 3rd party rpm repositories.
2. Then if you have the built in firewall turned on you have to add rules for bittorrent, etc.
3. Want to play video games? Have to install nvidia/ati drivers.
4. Want divx or mp3 codecs? Not installed.
5. Java or macromedia support for firefox? Not installed again.
6. NTFS support not installed, mp3s are prob on a NTFS parition.
7. Tweak away, ms fonts, VLC, x11 setup, etc.
Really, fedora isnt the best choice for a linux desktop for a beginner, you have too much configuration. Its a nice polished server OS, or bare basic workstation, but its limited due to licensing.
I'd recommend SuSE professional for a more complete install that you dont have to manually tweak. Ubuntu has the same problems as Fedora, applications/codecs are not included. There are 3rd party applications that close the loophole for ubuntu.
I stopped using Mandriva the last couple releases due to error prone installs if you dont use the default settings. It includes more of the applications you need, but you have to pay for support.
Saying unions are bad is rather uninformed, and trollish.
Unions where really needed 30+ years ago due to work conditions, people where dieing. Now that we have safety issues that are under government control, safety can normally be a non-union concept.
Whats left is working hours, benefits (medical), and pay.
I would love to see laws governing working hours, people die at hospitals due to overworked doctors and lack of nursing. How many hours should someone work a week, 60, 80? Or maybe only 30. When people have more free time it increases economic trade and a better quality of life.
Now America has no national medical system, and companies cant sustain the insane profit margins without cutting medical or retirement benefits to its employees. This is the sad part, you can give up pay for benefits, but this should only be used for emergencies, not to help the share holders profit every other year.
If companies can pay less they will, walmart is the perfect example. Walmart skirts benefits with low hours, and normally pay the lowest wages allowed. The only reason we have a middle class in America is due to unions, most unions are construction/trade based, the backbone of most societies.
America is highly anti-labor friendly they have busted unions with the help of local governments.
Now I'm talking about unions for masses, not high end professional engineering contractors. There will always be a market to pay high wages for the highly skilled, well, unless it can be offshored.
Dont forget the tango that came out in 2004, electric and does 0-60 in 4 seconds. Also kinda neat that it came out in Spokane Washington and not backed by a bunch of Silicon Valley money men.
You can disagree with Google and not be a troll. Get over it.
So, there are all these sites wanting to show ad's and google wont let them. WHERE is the alternatives? Come on, if google wont spent 10 minutes and at least email the website author with more details than "you fucked up, bye bye" Maybe its time to drop google.
If google is this fucked up, why keep using it. Sounds like some other company needs to step in and fill the void. I'm rather tired of googles "fuck you" attitude towards webmasters in these slashdot posts.
I cant see spending 20+ bux for a dvd, when most of it is on cable on-demand and in HD.
Sounds like the MPAA is out of touch with consumers. Pay for crap quality? I wont even steal that crap quality.
Would be nice if all the artwork and music for demos and boot loaders where kept around. The digital expression that kick started the video game industry and hackers turned video game producers should be kept around.
Entire parts of the digital, pre-internet history are being lost with new technology.
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Better yet, tattoo your ID number on your forearm.
For a society built on the horrors of history of prejudice, persecution and corrupt governments, why do you think America is different? Its corrupt as you let it get, by looking at our history, enron, ibm and ww2, mississippi voters rights, bank scandels, iraq, war on drugs, dmca, to name a couple, its corrupt enough already.
I think its already lost, Americans are too lazy to care.
Hey, my butler and limo driver can play golf as good as anyone.
You can make a bartpe dvd with all the drivers installed to work on most hardware.
There is a DVD floating around on BT sites that have an updated winxp with all patches/drivers and some needed applications. But I recommend making one yourself for security reasons. (rootkit/etc)
Driver packs and Driverpacks.net
Ryan's windows xp updates
nlite to help modify a windows install.
Bart PE - bootable dvd/cd for windows install.
Move your phone to the floor or behind you, i find 2 feet away from the speakers works.
When I'm in the car, I dont put my phone in the phone holder anymore, I put it on the seat next to me.
Also dont put it next to your alarm clock, thats a bitch to be woken up to that BZZZT screech.
Core will excel on the types of applications that will make up the vast majority of server and consumer code in the near to medium term. And because it's designed for relatively low core-count multicore, it will help the software industry gradually make the transition to multithreaded code.
Ok, the conclusion is off, single threaded cores are for the desktop. Multicore is when you need the highest connections with the lowest latency. Hyperthreading helps by fighting memory latency, but they havent put hyperthreading in it yet.
Now, after they add hyperthreading back in, add 64 bit support, and virtualization like the p4 line, it will truely be the next cpu for 4 years.
Of course, AMD isnt just sitting back and doing nothing.
Don't worry, after she divorces you all those hot emails make great court fodder.