I recall an historical account of the last great auk being killed so that it could be stuffed and placed in the British museum.
Reminds me of a story from my home state of California. Cali's state flag has a huge Grizzly Bear dominating the center. Grizzly Bears are now extinct in California. Guess how the last known Grizzly in Cali died. It was swimming across a river and a bunch of people paddled out in a boat and clubbed it to death while it was defenseless in the middle of the river.
Incidents like this make me question my normal environmenalist instinct. Being an environmentalist means striving to keep the ball of dirt we're on clean enough to happily support humanity. Maybe I should just say fuck it and become a republican so that we can make this planet hostile to human existance ASAP. Thank god I don't have kids yet, that would really make me want to save the species...
CD's are very overpriced but perhaps not so much in the light of their longevity compared to vinyl.
This portion of the analogue/digital vinyl/CD debate always irked me. Sure if you handle both the CD and the record with kid gloves and keep both in immaculant condition between the storage and playing centers, vinyl will degrade over time and CD's won't. But if you treat either of them halfway like shit they will both fail. What is worse a skipping record or a skipping CD? How many CDs do you have with unplayable tracks due to such skipping? I baby my CDs and still have problems. Don't even get me started on how easy it is for the shiny coating layer on the back to flake off. A drop of water later and several tracks are now FUBARed.
Why oh why didn't the cheap bastards on the CD commitee encase the damn disks of plastic in a case a la MiniDisc?
The Taliban offered to extradite OBL to a third country to stand trial for 9-11. The US rejected that in place of bombing the fuck out of Afgan civilians and "misplacing" both OBL and all his closest aids. Joy.
Oh and don't forget that the administration had informed the Taliban as well as German, and Russian intelligence during the summer of '01 that they were going to attack Afganistan during mid-October. This is a confirmed fact. Guess what, the U.S. bombed Afganistan right on time.
Show me one shard of evidence that Afganistan or Afgans had anything at all to do with what happened on Sept. 11.
Copyright 2002 Agence France Presse Agence France Presse January 25, 2002 Friday
SECTION: International News
LENGTH: 320 words
HEADLINE: Baghdad dismisses US charge of violating NPT
DATELINE: BAGHDAD, Jan 25
BODY: Iraq accused the United States on Friday of adopting a policy of double standards over armaments, rejecting Washington's claim that Baghdad has violated the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). The latest US allegation "confirms our grievances about (Washington's) selectivity and double standards," said Samir Khayri, Iraq's representative at the United Nations in Geneva, quoted by the official INA news agency. Khayri was reacting to remarks by US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton, who accused Iraq and North Korea on Thursday of violating the NPT. "Countries such as North Korea and Iraq must cease their violations of the NPT and allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to do its work," Bolton told the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva. "Further, I caution those who think that they can pursue nuclear weapons without detection: the United States and its allies will prove you wrong," he said. "The US representative accused Iraq... but did not refer to the Zionist entity (Israel), whose nuclear arsenal threatens security and stability in the Middle East," Khayri retorted. "Why doesn't the United States ask (Israel) to adhere to the NPT and open its nuclear installations to international inspection?" he asked. Iraq, on the other hand, has opened its installations to the IAEA, Khayri said. An IAEA delegation is expected in Baghdad, which joined the NPT in 1972, later on Friday on a routine inspection mission. The nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which was renewed indefinitely in 1995, establishes five recognized nuclear weapons powers -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- and restricts other countries to the civilian development of nuclear energy. It does not include India and Pakistan, which have since declared their nuclear weapons capability, or Israel, which is strongly suspected of having nuclear arms.
2) He ejected U.N. inspectors who were making sure he complied with the peace terms stating he wouldn't continue to develop WMDs including the Iraqi nuclear program.
Um, actually they have been more than complient with U.N. inspectors. The inspectors left because they couldn't find anything. Since the orginal yahoo link is now DOA I'll include the article in a comment to this comment.
3) He has launched strikes on civilian populations in Israel during the Gulf War even though Israel was not part of the military coalition. He did this in the hopes invoking an Israeli response which would gain him the support of other Arab nations.
While Doom was the first Really Good FPS, it was still a take off of several other stories, it is no more orginial than Half-Life is related to Doom.
True that. Saving humanity from the spawns of hell is probably one of the oldest plot devices in human story-telling history. Beowulf (the book not the cluster) is the oldest known work in the English language and basically follows the same plot line.
Why dosen't the US develop an OS strictly for secure governmental transactions/use?
They tried to do that with programming languages and came up with Ada. Given that history do you still think that they could pull off an entire OS and have it preform any better than the open source offerings already out there? Shit, taxpayers have footed the bill for much of BSD's development over the decades, they should stick to that as a base and modify if needed.
Man, couldn't they have thought up something a little more original? I mean, mysterious otherworldly monsters coming through portals into a large installation is pure Half-Life!
If you had bothered to read the damn article you would have realized that the plot is intentionally a rehash of Doom. Yes, the orginal Doom, successor to Wolfenstein 3D, designed for 486s. This predates Half-Life by many years.
Except no drive costing less than a 747 can sustain that kind of data...
That's what raid 0 is for. Mmmmmm striping across a whole rack of disks. Sucks if one eats shit though. Maybe you could pull acceptable performance from raid 5, or software raid 0 of a bunch of raid 5 3U rackmounts similar to what Apple is coming out with.
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The military has live fire exercises. Much better at getting people to take things seriousely. This may have limited uses but not nearly to the extent that you seem to think.
Live fire exercises aren't going anywhere anytime soon, but the military already makes heavy use of computer simulations (usually just off the shelf games with custom levels, embassies and such). Technology like this could augment this aspect of their training. Why go through all this trouble when you have live fire excercises? Simple, bullets cost money. Electrons are far more inexpensive. When you have to maintain a fighting force 24/7 during peacetime, incidentials like bullets add up quickly. Plus, every once and a while there is an accident on the range. Sucks to send a body bag home with a note saying, "killed in training, our bad."
For me, it includes the purchase of an MS XP "enabled" laptop so I can complete college studies and lead a "normal" life in the world of computer programming. I know of no recognized Universities or Colleges within the reach of my pocketbook that offer MS free courses, and I'm sure if you looked about your city you'd find the same thing.
If your uni has set up its CS department to require MS stuff for your courses you should transfer, they are doing you a diservice. I go to a state school (UCSB) and ditched all MS products in the first few months after I got to school and the supplied broadband in the Dorms (running Linux/BSD without broadband is a pain in the ass, esp. then). Programming courses started with Java then branched out to other languages depending on the goal of the class (OpenGL = C/C++, OS = C, etc). The only OS students are forced to learn is UNIX; every CS major has to take a UNIX/C class in order to get into the full major.
The only time I ran into problems with MS-centric bullshit was when I was studing abroad in Adelaide, Australia and the head of the exchange student social group kept sending e-mails as.doc documents. A bit of bitching and explaining that sending simple text documents in.doc format to a bunch of people on space restricted web e-mail was a bad idea got her to change.
In short, if your uni requires MS products to complete a degree in programming you picked the wrong school and should either talk to the department about changing things or transfer.
It's probably most useful if fingerprint scanners can ever be made economical for the home user - Person makes a CC purchase online, pushes their thumb on a reader, and the image of their thumb gets hashed and sent to the CC company for verification. As a result, a CC thief has to steal the user's fingerprint in addition to their CC #.
Wheee, now both the CC and the finger print hash are stored in the same insecure, slapped together, e-server in bumfuck idaho. This offers no more protection than just a CC# and when someone steals your hash you have to take some lye to your fingertips.
Until you can make all e-comerce servers rock solid secure I don't want my ID based on something that would physically hurt to change.
> Apple didn't design the drive. They didn't build it either. But they selected it.
... before this stupid copy restrict shit ever was invented. What do you want apple to do? "Uh sorry, we can't use your drive because it may fail when in the future jack booted RIAA thugs spend massive amounts of time and money to create a system designed to specifically break this drive."
Give me a fucking break. Requiring that someone be able to see into the future before you'll buy their hardware is a bit extreame.
"I won't buy an apple because they don't give me next week's winning lotto numbers with my order."
And G.W's favorite childhood book, the hungry catipiler (you know, the only one he has EVER read to kids no matter if they are first or eigth graders) WASN'T PRINTED UNTIL HE HAD ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL!!!!
Face it the dude is functionally illerate. As for how he was able to get those degrees, he probably pulled the same strings that let him walk away from the Air National guard for several YEARS. Most people call that disertion.
Do you know Fa Lun Da Fa is just the chinese version of Scientology?
Did you know that you are a fucking idiot?
Falun Dafa is more of a yoga than a religion. More importantly, unlike $cientology, everything is free. All the books are available for free online. All practice sites offer free tuition; all the teachers are volunteers. Hell if you are interested and there are no practioners in your country, others will fly to meet you at their own expense. Also unlike $cientology, practioners of Falun Dafa never attack anyone: even facing dath, dismemberment, an pain they never stray from their non-violent creed.
So exactly how is Falun Dafa a Chinese version of scientology?
The real reason China is putting the hurt on them is because the Chinese government sees as a threat any group that can organize and put people on the street. If the local LUG could quickly mobilize a few thousand nonviolent protesters in Bejing, the Chinese govt would probably start sending Linux geeks to prison labor camps.
Looks like someone at the CIA fianlly got around to reading Unrestricted Warfare by Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui. This is a very interesting read and brings up many points worth thinking about. Chief among these is the fact that in unbalanced conflicts (think U.S. vs. Afganistan) the weaker party must use all means at their disposal to counter their opponents overwhelming military might. This includes computer hacking, financial speculation, sanctions, assinations, and other lovely acts.
They even get the hacker terminology right:
[7] The original meaning of "hacker" was neutral and did not carry any derogatory sense. Early
hackers used their obsession with technology and good intentions for society to form a unique
hacker standard of logic which was strictly adhered to by many people over several generations
of hackers. However, in the network space of today where the moral degeneration is getting
worse day by day, there is no longer this gentlemanly attitude.
Screw the binaries. All I want is a/usr/ports entry.
I get a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that everything on my computer was built from source by my computer.
You have to do something with all those spare cycles and I could really care less about finding alien signals from noise, cracking the latest DES, or factoring the largest mersine (sic) primes.
I can go to Grand Vitesse Systems' online store [gvstore.com] and buy a 2U, dual 1Ghz mac with a gig of ram and all the other apple goodness (gigE, superdrive et al) for around $3500.
For compairson, we next go to dell [dell.com] and price out a similar 2U server using wintel, namely the PowerEdge 2550. Put in dual 1.4Ghz Intel pent III (G4's will eat this for breakfast), 1GB of ram, Red Hat 7.2 pre-installed, and basic everything else what do we get? $4,871!!! Granted this comes with an 18GB SCSI 10K drive vs. the mac's 80GB and 40GB ATA hard drives, but I think you can get a SCSI controller and a 18GB HD for less than $1300.
Face it, since OS X macs have been better than anything that runs on Intel for any application.
I can go to Grand Vitesse Systems' online store and buy a 2U, dual 1Ghz mac with a gig of ram and all the other apple goodness (gigE, superdrive et al) for around $3500.
For compairson, we next go to dell and price out a similar 2U server using wintel, namely the PowerEdge 2550. Put in dual 1.4Ghz Intel pent III (G4's will eat this for breakfast), 1GB of ram, Red Hat 7.2 pre-installed, and basic everything else what do we get? $4,871!!! Granted this comes with an 18GB SCSI 10K drive vs. the mac's 80GB and 40GB ATA hard drives, but I think you can get a SCSI controller and a 18GB HD for less than $1300.
Face it, since OS X macs have been better than anything that runs on Intel for any application.
what Einstein said as gospel, the end all be all of science, quantum machinics whould have never been developed. Appeal to athority is one of the oldest fallicies in the book (heck, hairless apes have even created religions baised on books of said fallicies:)
$ uname -a
FreeBSD ***.***.*** 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #6
$/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -version
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1-internal-****
Classic VM (build 1.3.1-internal-****, green threads, nojit)
All I had to do was to download the tarball from sun into the ports directory and do your standard make, make install (you have to specifically download the file due to sun's fubared licensing). This took all of 15min to do and works great (just finished a CS project using it, javac, JavaCUP, and JLex).
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I recall an historical account of the last great auk being killed so that it could be stuffed and placed in the British museum.
Reminds me of a story from my home state of California. Cali's state flag has a huge Grizzly Bear dominating the center. Grizzly Bears are now extinct in California. Guess how the last known Grizzly in Cali died. It was swimming across a river and a bunch of people paddled out in a boat and clubbed it to death while it was defenseless in the middle of the river.
Incidents like this make me question my normal environmenalist instinct. Being an environmentalist means striving to keep the ball of dirt we're on clean enough to happily support humanity. Maybe I should just say fuck it and become a republican so that we can make this planet hostile to human existance ASAP. Thank god I don't have kids yet, that would really make me want to save the species...
CD's are very overpriced but perhaps not so much in the light of their longevity compared to vinyl.
This portion of the analogue/digital vinyl/CD debate always irked me. Sure if you handle both the CD and the record with kid gloves and keep both in immaculant condition between the storage and playing centers, vinyl will degrade over time and CD's won't. But if you treat either of them halfway like shit they will both fail. What is worse a skipping record or a skipping CD? How many CDs do you have with unplayable tracks due to such skipping? I baby my CDs and still have problems. Don't even get me started on how easy it is for the shiny coating layer on the back to flake off. A drop of water later and several tracks are now FUBARed.
Why oh why didn't the cheap bastards on the CD commitee encase the damn disks of plastic in a case a la MiniDisc?
Um, wrong.
The Taliban offered to extradite OBL to a third country to stand trial for 9-11. The US rejected that in place of bombing the fuck out of Afgan civilians and "misplacing" both OBL and all his closest aids. Joy.
Oh and don't forget that the administration had informed the Taliban as well as German, and Russian intelligence during the summer of '01 that they were going to attack Afganistan during mid-October. This is a confirmed fact. Guess what, the U.S. bombed Afganistan right on time.
Show me one shard of evidence that Afganistan or Afgans had anything at all to do with what happened on Sept. 11.
Copyright 2002 Agence France Presse
... but did not refer to the Zionist entity (Israel), whose nuclear arsenal threatens security and stability in the Middle East," Khayri retorted.
Agence France Presse
January 25, 2002 Friday
SECTION: International News
LENGTH: 320 words
HEADLINE: Baghdad dismisses US charge of violating NPT
DATELINE: BAGHDAD, Jan 25
BODY:
Iraq accused the United States on Friday of adopting a policy of double standards over armaments, rejecting Washington's claim that Baghdad has violated the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).
The latest US allegation "confirms our grievances about (Washington's) selectivity and double standards," said Samir Khayri, Iraq's representative at the United Nations in Geneva, quoted by the official INA news agency. Khayri was reacting to remarks by US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control John Bolton, who accused Iraq and North Korea on Thursday of violating the NPT.
"Countries such as North Korea and Iraq must cease their violations of the NPT and allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to do its work," Bolton told the Conference on Disarmament in Geneva.
"Further, I caution those who think that they can pursue nuclear weapons without detection: the United States and its allies will prove you wrong," he said.
"The US representative accused Iraq
"Why doesn't the United States ask (Israel) to adhere to the NPT and open its nuclear installations to international inspection?" he asked.
Iraq, on the other hand, has opened its installations to the IAEA, Khayri said.
An IAEA delegation is expected in Baghdad, which joined the NPT in 1972, later on Friday on a routine inspection mission.
The nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which was renewed indefinitely in 1995, establishes five recognized nuclear weapons powers -- Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States -- and restricts other countries to the civilian development of nuclear energy.
It does not include India and Pakistan, which have since declared their nuclear weapons capability, or Israel, which is strongly suspected of having nuclear arms.
LOAD-DATE: January 27, 2002
1) Saddam Husain has used weapons of mass destruction( WMDs) such as nerve gas against Iraqi kurdish civilians.
Um, no. The U.N., though they really tried hard, couldn't find any evidence that Saddam Hussain ever gassed the kurds. This claim is as factual as Dennis and Eric being members of the trenchcoat mafia.
2) He ejected U.N. inspectors who were making sure he complied with the peace terms stating he wouldn't continue to develop WMDs including the Iraqi nuclear program.
Um, actually they have been more than complient with U.N. inspectors. The inspectors left because they couldn't find anything. Since the orginal yahoo link is now DOA I'll include the article in a comment to this comment.
3) He has launched strikes on civilian populations in Israel during the Gulf War even though Israel was not part of the military coalition. He did this in the hopes invoking an Israeli response which would gain him the support of other Arab nations.
And is this somehow worse than the United States using depleated Uranium that causes horrible birth defect to the most innocent or starving everyone through sanctions?
And as a parting thought take a look at Seven Washington Lies about Iraq.
I call FUD
While Doom was the first Really Good FPS, it was still a take off of several other stories, it is no more orginial than Half-Life is related to Doom.
True that. Saving humanity from the spawns of hell is probably one of the oldest plot devices in human story-telling history. Beowulf (the book not the cluster) is the oldest known work in the English language and basically follows the same plot line.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Why dosen't the US develop an OS strictly for secure governmental transactions/use?
They tried to do that with programming languages and came up with Ada. Given that history do you still think that they could pull off an entire OS and have it preform any better than the open source offerings already out there? Shit, taxpayers have footed the bill for much of BSD's development over the decades, they should stick to that as a base and modify if needed.
Man, couldn't they have thought up something a little more original? I mean, mysterious otherworldly monsters coming through portals into a large installation is pure Half-Life!
If you had bothered to read the damn article you would have realized that the plot is intentionally a rehash of Doom. Yes, the orginal Doom, successor to Wolfenstein 3D, designed for 486s. This predates Half-Life by many years.
Was posting early worth looking like a moron?
Except no drive costing less than a 747 can sustain that kind of data...
That's what raid 0 is for. Mmmmmm striping across a whole rack of disks. Sucks if one eats shit though. Maybe you could pull acceptable performance from raid 5, or software raid 0 of a bunch of raid 5 3U rackmounts similar to what Apple is coming out with.
The military has live fire exercises. Much better at getting people to take things seriousely. This may have limited uses but not nearly to the extent that you seem to think.
Live fire exercises aren't going anywhere anytime soon, but the military already makes heavy use of computer simulations (usually just off the shelf games with custom levels, embassies and such). Technology like this could augment this aspect of their training. Why go through all this trouble when you have live fire excercises? Simple, bullets cost money. Electrons are far more inexpensive. When you have to maintain a fighting force 24/7 during peacetime, incidentials like bullets add up quickly. Plus, every once and a while there is an accident on the range. Sucks to send a body bag home with a note saying, "killed in training, our bad."
--Infinityedge
For me, it includes the purchase of an MS XP "enabled" laptop so I can complete college studies and lead a "normal" life in the world of computer programming. I know of no recognized Universities or Colleges within the reach of my pocketbook that offer MS free courses, and I'm sure if you looked about your city you'd find the same thing.
If your uni has set up its CS department to require MS stuff for your courses you should transfer, they are doing you a diservice. I go to a state school (UCSB) and ditched all MS products in the first few months after I got to school and the supplied broadband in the Dorms (running Linux/BSD without broadband is a pain in the ass, esp. then). Programming courses started with Java then branched out to other languages depending on the goal of the class (OpenGL = C/C++, OS = C, etc). The only OS students are forced to learn is UNIX; every CS major has to take a UNIX/C class in order to get into the full major.
The only time I ran into problems with MS-centric bullshit was when I was studing abroad in Adelaide, Australia and the head of the exchange student social group kept sending e-mails as .doc documents. A bit of bitching and explaining that sending simple text documents in .doc format to a bunch of people on space restricted web e-mail was a bad idea got her to change.
In short, if your uni requires MS products to complete a degree in programming you picked the wrong school and should either talk to the department about changing things or transfer.
--InfinityEdge
It's probably most useful if fingerprint scanners can ever be made economical for the home user - Person makes a CC purchase online, pushes their thumb on a reader, and the image of their thumb gets hashed and sent to the CC company for verification. As a result, a CC thief has to steal the user's fingerprint in addition to their CC #.
Wheee, now both the CC and the finger print hash are stored in the same insecure, slapped together, e-server in bumfuck idaho. This offers no more protection than just a CC# and when someone steals your hash you have to take some lye to your fingertips.
Until you can make all e-comerce servers rock solid secure I don't want my ID based on something that would physically hurt to change.
> Apple didn't design the drive. They didn't build it either. But they selected it.
... before this stupid copy restrict shit ever was invented. What do you want apple to do? "Uh sorry, we can't use your drive because it may fail when in the future jack booted RIAA thugs spend massive amounts of time and money to create a system designed to specifically break this drive."
Give me a fucking break. Requiring that someone be able to see into the future before you'll buy their hardware is a bit extreame.
"I won't buy an apple because they don't give me next week's winning lotto numbers with my order."
Grow a brain, your brainstem needs company.
And G.W's favorite childhood book, the hungry catipiler (you know, the only one he has EVER read to kids no matter if they are first or eigth graders) WASN'T PRINTED UNTIL HE HAD ALREADY GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL!!!!
Face it the dude is functionally illerate. As for how he was able to get those degrees, he probably pulled the same strings that let him walk away from the Air National guard for several YEARS. Most people call that disertion.
--InfinityEdge
Do you know Fa Lun Da Fa is just the chinese version of Scientology?
Did you know that you are a fucking idiot?
Falun Dafa is more of a yoga than a religion. More importantly, unlike $cientology, everything is free. All the books are available for free online. All practice sites offer free tuition; all the teachers are volunteers. Hell if you are interested and there are no practioners in your country, others will fly to meet you at their own expense. Also unlike $cientology, practioners of Falun Dafa never attack anyone: even facing dath, dismemberment, an pain they never stray from their non-violent creed.
So exactly how is Falun Dafa a Chinese version of scientology?
The real reason China is putting the hurt on them is because the Chinese government sees as a threat any group that can organize and put people on the street. If the local LUG could quickly mobilize a few thousand nonviolent protesters in Bejing, the Chinese govt would probably start sending Linux geeks to prison labor camps.
--InfinityEdge
Looks like someone at the CIA fianlly got around to reading Unrestricted Warfare by Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui. This is a very interesting read and brings up many points worth thinking about. Chief among these is the fact that in unbalanced conflicts (think U.S. vs. Afganistan) the weaker party must use all means at their disposal to counter their opponents overwhelming military might. This includes computer hacking, financial speculation, sanctions, assinations, and other lovely acts.
They even get the hacker terminology right:
[7] The original meaning of "hacker" was neutral and did not carry any derogatory sense. Early hackers used their obsession with technology and good intentions for society to form a unique hacker standard of logic which was strictly adhered to by many people over several generations of hackers. However, in the network space of today where the moral degeneration is getting worse day by day, there is no longer this gentlemanly attitude.
--Infinityedge
Four million is nothing when you compare it to the US department of defense loosing trillions of dollars worth of equipment Yes thats trillion with a t.
One of the basic laws of engineering is to spend your time and effort optimizing those functions that have a large impact on the overall system.
--InfinityEdge
Screw the binaries. All I want is a /usr/ports entry.
I get a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that everything on my computer was built from source by my computer.
You have to do something with all those spare cycles and I could really care less about finding alien signals from noise, cracking the latest DES, or factoring the largest mersine (sic) primes.
Viva la source!!!!
--InfinityEdge
Lets see here...
I can go to Grand Vitesse Systems' online store [gvstore.com] and buy a 2U, dual 1Ghz mac with a gig of ram and all the other apple goodness (gigE, superdrive et al) for around $3500.
For compairson, we next go to dell [dell.com] and price out a similar 2U server using wintel, namely the PowerEdge 2550. Put in dual 1.4Ghz Intel pent III (G4's will eat this for breakfast), 1GB of ram, Red Hat 7.2 pre-installed, and basic everything else what do we get? $4,871!!! Granted this comes with an 18GB SCSI 10K drive vs. the mac's 80GB and 40GB ATA hard drives, but I think you can get a SCSI controller and a 18GB HD for less than $1300.
Face it, since OS X macs have been better than anything that runs on Intel for any application.
--InfinityEdge
Remove the obvious spam catcher to e-mail
And one ring to call them all.
Lets see here...
I can go to Grand Vitesse Systems' online store and buy a 2U, dual 1Ghz mac with a gig of ram and all the other apple goodness (gigE, superdrive et al) for around $3500.
For compairson, we next go to dell and price out a similar 2U server using wintel, namely the PowerEdge 2550. Put in dual 1.4Ghz Intel pent III (G4's will eat this for breakfast), 1GB of ram, Red Hat 7.2 pre-installed, and basic everything else what do we get? $4,871!!! Granted this comes with an 18GB SCSI 10K drive vs. the mac's 80GB and 40GB ATA hard drives, but I think you can get a SCSI controller and a 18GB HD for less than $1300.
Face it, since OS X macs have been better than anything that runs on Intel for any application.
--InfinityEdge
Those who have them, mod this one up!!!!
FUD fighting at its best.
what Einstein said as gospel, the end all be all of science, quantum machinics whould have never been developed. Appeal to athority is one of the oldest fallicies in the book (heck, hairless apes have even created religions baised on books of said fallicies :)
--InfinityEdge
Have you ever offered a register-jockey at 7-11 your $100 bill for your $1.99 purchase telling the cashier to, "keep the change" and been rufused?
Didn't think so.
$ uname -a
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -version
FreeBSD ***.***.*** 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #6
$
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1-internal-****
Classic VM (build 1.3.1-internal-****, green threads, nojit)
All I had to do was to download the tarball from sun into the ports directory and do your standard make, make install (you have to specifically download the file due to sun's fubared licensing). This took all of 15min to do and works great (just finished a CS project using it, javac, JavaCUP, and JLex).
The ports directory is your friend.
--InfinityEdge