Server logs don't tell you everything you need to know if you're going to run a serious, full-service Web site -- things like what resolution your lusers are running at, etc. You need to use 1x1 shenanigans for that. Period.
I agree with everything you said about the original Marble Madness. It is a watershed game.
After years of torment, I finally got a chance to play Marble Man at the recent California Extreme show. It was interesting to experience, but to say that it paled in comparison to the original is a terrible understatement. It just felt flat-out *wrong* to be controlling the marble with a joystick (and "speed" button), and the cartoonish nature of much of the graphics created the wrong feel. And don't even get me started on the insipid "SPELL MARBLE!" bonus round that kept popping up...
I retract nothing, and I see no logical errors in my argument. We're looking at two sides of the same coin. You say it's not stealing because a COPY is being made, so the original owner isn't missing anything. I say it is in fact stealing because you've gotten something without paying for it.
If I go to a public library and xerox every damn last page of a book that I don't feel like buying, am I stealing? I say, damn right I am. You'd say hell no. That's the disagreement right there, I think. And I think we're both stubborn enough that this discussion isn't going to change either of our views.
I have no problem with definitions, and I even know that definitions are found in a dictionary, not a thesaurus: argument (see #2a)
In this context, the two are the same. With this "point" (or "argument") and with your original "point" (or "argument") it seems you've got a real problem with the concept of synonyms.
But perhaps I'm just not understanding your point, so let's try this one more time. The new Radiohead CD is *sold*. In *stores*. If you choose not to go to the store and buy the music, but instead p2p it off the 'net and then burn it onto a disc, you have procured a copy of the music without purchasing it. You are stealing. Right? You can't just say, "No, I'm not stealing, I'm infringing on copyright" unless you can tell me what the difference is. I'm saying, there is no difference. It's no different from shoplifting the damn disc right outta the store. Is it?
Or would you say to that, "No, shoplifting is also not stealing -- shoplifting is shoplifting and that's why we call it that"?
You are mincing words. A law does not have to say "this thing that we are outlawing is called stealing" in order for the thing being outlawed to be stealing.
If you download for free that which is offered for sale in stores, you are stealing. Period. If you can't understand that, you're a moron. Period.
I'm no fan of the RIAA, but this "copyright infringement isn't stealing" argument is absolutely mindless. We've got much better arguments on our side. Let's use them.
(Perhaps your argument would have been more convincing had you made greater use of CAPS and BOLDFACE.)
I have 3 computers in my cube--Mac OS 9, Mac OS X, and Windows 2000. I spend all day switching among them, using Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark, InDesign, BBEdit, Homesite, Office 2000, Office 2001, and Office X. [...] I even use Apple's X11 to run GUI apps (like Bluefish) from my Linux box at home for little odds & ends. So there.
Look at all the boxes I have! Look at all the apps I run! So there!
I'm guessing that either: 1. You are working with images for a living, in which case, you can afford the investment in Photoshop. (The rest of us don't miss much of what's missing in the Gimp.) *** OR *** 2. You're one of those people who moans about the Gimp's UI. (It doesn't suck. It just isn't like Photoshop's.)
Mod parent up. Fantastic question. The standard Gnome file dialogs are good enough for geeks (tab completion, hell yeah) but are simply dreadful for standard users.
Since the entire Supreme Court arugment is so tedious and nasty, tell you what, I'll cede your point. Florida was Bush's. Alas, that doesn't change the fact that nationwide, more people voted for Gore. Nobody disputes that. It took the Electoral College to put Bush in the White House, and for a country that envisions itself a shining beacon of democracy throughout the world, that's just plain wrong.
As for the folks who respond "we're not a democracy, we're a republic," thanks very much for that insightful commentary; glad to see you paid attention in 9th grade civics class. You're missing the point.
Americans have ignored the problem that is the Electoral College for a very long time. We used to say, "sure, it COULD elect the guy who got fewer votes, but that'll never happen again." Then it happened again. And there was a bunch of high-minded talk about fixing the problem, but we did nothing. It's not like we haven't fixed the Constitution previously in order to remove encumbrances on our democracy (despite "being a republic"). We should have done so again after the 2000 debacle. Given that it can take as long as 203 years to pass an amendment, I'll not hold my breath waiting.
Go find whoever taught you what "bias" means and ask for your money back. Bias isn't about whether "facts" presented are "actual"; bias is about which facts are presented. (And if you really think Fox is unbiased news--which is what the question asks for--then you are willfully ignorant.)
I have a hard time with the notion that a legal system that allows double jeopardy is "sane." How many times does the Norwegian government get to try to fry Jon? As many as it takes? (Can someone who understands Norway's system provide a real answer to this question?)
Grammar Nazis are especially annoying when they are flat-out WRONG. "Rupert Murdoch has a million times more right to speak than you and I" is correct. Proof? Insert the implied verb: "Rupert Murdoch has a million times more right to speak than you and I [do]." You would not say "me do."
I won't even go into the matter of using an apostrophe to pluralize Nazi.
At least on AICN, you can tell how important a posting is by how many exclamation points follow it!! We should totally do the same thing on Slashdot!!!
I completely agree. The interjections (many of them snide) do not serve to underscore ESR's point, but instead make him come across as an insecure nerd who's got to beat you over the head with his point time and time again lest you forget it.
A well-written, separate response would have been far more effective. Besides, post their words without the "translations" and they'll hang themselves with their own rope quite effectively.
Not only are you NAL, but apparently you can't be bothered to read the freaking article, which clearly states that "the judge told jurors that in order to find the company guilty, they must agree that company representatives knew their actions were illegal and intended to violate the law." In some cases -- depending on how a law is written -- intent has a LOT to do with guilt.
This is all well and good, but I'm not all that interested in playing it. On the other hand, I'd give my left nut to play the unreleased Marble Madness II on MAME.
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Server logs don't tell you everything you need to know if you're going to run a serious, full-service Web site -- things like what resolution your lusers are running at, etc. You need to use 1x1 shenanigans for that. Period.
After years of torment, I finally got a chance to play Marble Man at the recent California Extreme show. It was interesting to experience, but to say that it paled in comparison to the original is a terrible understatement. It just felt flat-out *wrong* to be controlling the marble with a joystick (and "speed" button), and the cartoonish nature of much of the graphics created the wrong feel. And don't even get me started on the insipid "SPELL MARBLE!" bonus round that kept popping up...
As if I'm going to take a lesson in rhetoric from someone who's set up what he knows is a straw man argument. Feh.
If I go to a public library and xerox every damn last page of a book that I don't feel like buying, am I stealing? I say, damn right I am. You'd say hell no. That's the disagreement right there, I think. And I think we're both stubborn enough that this discussion isn't going to change either of our views.
I have no problem with definitions, and I even know that definitions are found in a dictionary, not a thesaurus: argument (see #2a)
But perhaps I'm just not understanding your point, so let's try this one more time. The new Radiohead CD is *sold*. In *stores*. If you choose not to go to the store and buy the music, but instead p2p it off the 'net and then burn it onto a disc, you have procured a copy of the music without purchasing it. You are stealing. Right? You can't just say, "No, I'm not stealing, I'm infringing on copyright" unless you can tell me what the difference is. I'm saying, there is no difference. It's no different from shoplifting the damn disc right outta the store. Is it?
Or would you say to that, "No, shoplifting is also not stealing -- shoplifting is shoplifting and that's why we call it that"?
You are mincing words. A law does not have to say "this thing that we are outlawing is called stealing" in order for the thing being outlawed to be stealing.
If you download for free that which is offered for sale in stores, you are stealing. Period. If you can't understand that, you're a moron. Period.
I'm no fan of the RIAA, but this "copyright infringement isn't stealing" argument is absolutely mindless. We've got much better arguments on our side. Let's use them.
(Perhaps your argument would have been more convincing had you made greater use of CAPS and BOLDFACE.)
Feh.
The Gimp is free. It's also Free. The Gimp rocks.
Mod parent up. Fantastic question. The standard Gnome file dialogs are good enough for geeks (tab completion, hell yeah) but are simply dreadful for standard users.
The Artifex license is not the point of contention, here. The Free version of Ghostscript is (and I believe always has been) GPLed. For more on the actual disagreement, see here (and its followups): http://www.ghostscript.com/pipermail/gs-devel/2002 -December/002261.html
As for the folks who respond "we're not a democracy, we're a republic," thanks very much for that insightful commentary; glad to see you paid attention in 9th grade civics class. You're missing the point.
Americans have ignored the problem that is the Electoral College for a very long time. We used to say, "sure, it COULD elect the guy who got fewer votes, but that'll never happen again." Then it happened again. And there was a bunch of high-minded talk about fixing the problem, but we did nothing. It's not like we haven't fixed the Constitution previously in order to remove encumbrances on our democracy (despite "being a republic"). We should have done so again after the 2000 debacle. Given that it can take as long as 203 years to pass an amendment, I'll not hold my breath waiting.
Um, no. Everyone may thank five citizens and an obsolete and outmoded Consitutional body for the current leadership. See what you get when you let democracy break down, people?
If you run MenuDrake, you can tell the system to use the standard Gnome menus. The change takes effect on next login.
Go find whoever taught you what "bias" means and ask for your money back. Bias isn't about whether "facts" presented are "actual"; bias is about which facts are presented. (And if you really think Fox is unbiased news--which is what the question asks for--then you are willfully ignorant.)
The P2120 is available from Emperor Linux with Linux preinstalled for $1950.00. (No, I don't work for them.)
I have a hard time with the notion that a legal system that allows double jeopardy is "sane." How many times does the Norwegian government get to try to fry Jon? As many as it takes? (Can someone who understands Norway's system provide a real answer to this question?)
Grammar Nazis are especially annoying when they are flat-out WRONG. "Rupert Murdoch has a million times more right to speak than you and I" is correct. Proof? Insert the implied verb: "Rupert Murdoch has a million times more right to speak than you and I [do]." You would not say "me do." I won't even go into the matter of using an apostrophe to pluralize Nazi.
At least on AICN, you can tell how important a posting is by how many exclamation points follow it!! We should totally do the same thing on Slashdot!!!
A well-written, separate response would have been far more effective. Besides, post their words without the "translations" and they'll hang themselves with their own rope quite effectively.
Not only are you NAL, but apparently you can't be bothered to read the freaking article, which clearly states that "the judge told jurors that in order to find the company guilty, they must agree that company representatives knew their actions were illegal and intended to violate the law." In some cases -- depending on how a law is written -- intent has a LOT to do with guilt.
But the elephant in the living room, seldom mentioned by OS advocates, is that the programmers must be supported somehow.
The dude clearly hasn't done his homework. I've never known an "Open Source advocate" who wasn't willing to tackle this [non]issue head-on.
(see gauging vs. gouging)
This is all well and good, but I'm not all that interested in playing it. On the other hand, I'd give my left nut to play the unreleased Marble Madness II on MAME.
Let's get literate: sole ... soul