Two years? The iPad 3 was released March 2012. That's not even a year and a half ago. In any case what they should be comparing it to for an apples to apples (no pun intended) comparison is the iPad Mini, which has a similar form factor.
I agree, and the benchmarks show that the nearly year-old iPad mini does darn well in comparison. The new Nexus 7 isn't a benchmark horse by any means.
According to TFA, it's "up to 9 hours." The original Nexus 7 had 10 hours, so it's an hour less. But considering it has to drive that Retina-like display, it's pretty darn good.
Battery life as tested in a lab, rather than leaving it up to the manufacturer.
Tablet Battery Life
Nexus 7 (2013) 7:15
Apple iPad mini 12:43 (WiFi)
Apple iPad (late 2012) 11:08 (WiFi)
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but why does Apple like to use proprietary chargers/connectors so much in the first place?
It may be that poor-quality third-party chargers could damage the device. But then I have to ask, why are iDevices so fragile in the first place? It seems most other smartphones have a standard USB port and can work with any old 5V power supply.
-Micro USB is terrible. Charges slow, isn't reversible, etc.
-The iDevices aren't 'fragile', the knockoff chargers are just poorly made. Nothing to do with the device.
They let one company do their R&D for the platform (Google) and another company for hardware and software design (Apple). They spend all of their money on bribes and advertising. This is an extremely mediocre hardware and software company.
Shows how far behind Samsung is in terms of hardware engineering. They stack the deck and still can't touch a 9 month old phone. Both browser performance and gaming performance, the 2 most stressful use cases on a smartphone, are way behind Apple.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54305.png
Look at your link. It shows the S4 beating the iP5. Also Sunspider is kind of weird. I think that current Windows Phones with underpowered SoCs post the best scores in more recent comparisons, and that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Regarding your other links, yes, the iP5 has oddly good GPU performance.
The S4 beats the iPhone 5 while in a freezer. It has heat dissipation issues due to poor built quality.
I always thought the point of a benchmark is to show what a device is capable.
So if the "phone does indeed let its GPU run at a higher frequency when particular benchmark software is running",
Its just showing what its capable of.
Though I would definitely want to run benchmarks the whole day and see what happens.
For mobile, benchmarks need to balance with heat dissipation and battery life. If you can't run at that clock speed for an extended period of time due to heat or battery life, this is very misleading.
Also when 80% of the apps on the Android platform are unstable POS then I don't care about how fast they crash. Even Chrome quits unexpectedly repeatedly and this is by the company that makes the Android platform on their own Nexus brand devices.
Your fault for not doing research ahead of time. I have literally hundreds of games on both my iPad and iPhone and never experience crashes. Android is a terrible gaming platform.
Samsung has received no punishment to date for creating a 150 page report on how to change their phones to look more like iPhones. Until they are actually punished, they will continue to mislead the public.
The other recent topic is how ridiculous their "waterproof" phone is. They clog up the connectors with rubber plugs. If the rubber plug gets loose, your phone is fried.
Shows how far behind Samsung is in terms of hardware engineering. They stack the deck and still can't touch a 9 month old phone. Both browser performance and gaming performance, the 2 most stressful use cases on a smartphone, are way behind Apple.
What plane do you live on? The iPhone 5 was barely distinguishable from the 4? It had a larger screen, replace glass with an aluminum unibody shell, removed the metal band around the edges, and introduced a 2-toned color look to the back. Only a buffoon can't spot these differences a mile away.
The iPad hasn't "tanked". They broke the constant upgrade cycle with the iPad 4th gen last fall. That means this quarter doesn't have the benefit of a brand new iPad 3 (like last year) and the channel inventory is much lower due to an impending iPad 5.
Countless times per day I'm removing my smartphone from my pocket simply to check today's calendar, today's to-dos, weather, latest emails, latest calls/sms, latest notifications, and of course the time. Quick access to your ecosystem would be a tremendous convenience.
The other big opportunity is sensors. Fitness and health are the obvious ones, but it could even branch into creative uses of an accelerometer.
The key here is the hardware engineering, where Apple has the big advantage. This thing needs to have multi-day battery life with the screen on continuously. It needs to utilize Bluetooth 4/BLE to reduce battery impact to your tablet/smartphone. The screen needs to have more brightness than the typical junk AMOLED. The microphone needs to be sensitive enough to operate at a distance farther than the typical smartphone.
My bet is Apple has a wealth of ideas, but they are still nailing down the hardware engineering aspect. Now that they are custom-designing their own SoCs, I believe this should be sooner than later.
Too many middle-income families already struggle paying for gas, raising those taxes wouldn't solve anything. Cycling infrastructure should be setup by local governments, not federal. High-speed rail should be setup by the private sector, not public. 0 for 3
Studies show time and time again that there are marginal differences at best between the major search engines. Google has the majority share due to their brand name. If Microsoft can offer a product tailored for education, they can introduce other non-search engine products to profit from.
Google, with 97%+ of their revenue from advertising, doesn't have that luxury.
Even if this is true (that they have bulletproof evidence), given the fact that this tactics is often used against people who later turn out to be innocent, it ought to be banned in general anyway.
Why should we encourage crime sprees? If I know I will only get charged with one instance of a crime, I'm going to rob a dozen 7-11s instead of one. You should not be rewarded for committing more crimes.
The reason it sounds like patent trolling is more because it sounds like extortion. They leveraged the law to force him to plea. If he hadn't he could have spent years going around the country until someone convicted him. I don't know much about him or if he deserves his conviction or not but that seems like a flaw in the justice system that should be fixed.
They have evidence he broke the law on numerous occasions. A murderer being charged for multiple murders isn't a loophole.
This is not, by any means, a new strategy. Bad defense attorneys have been able to identify this tactic and get erroneous charges thrown out quickly for many years. The kid is simply trying to shift blame.
Companies exist to make money for their shareholders. Sometimes they run out of productive things to do with the money they have, so the most responsible thing to do is return it to shareholders. Apple's strategy is to make a lot of money now, not invest for some far future payoff.
Well Apple was doing both. In the quarter they just reported there were massive increases in capital expenditures, looks like another product is around the corner.
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Two years? The iPad 3 was released March 2012. That's not even a year and a half ago. In any case what they should be comparing it to for an apples to apples (no pun intended) comparison is the iPad Mini, which has a similar form factor.
I agree, and the benchmarks show that the nearly year-old iPad mini does darn well in comparison. The new Nexus 7 isn't a benchmark horse by any means.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7176/56538.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7176/56539.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph7176/56541.png
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Compared to?
According to TFA, it's "up to 9 hours." The original Nexus 7 had 10 hours, so it's an hour less. But considering it has to drive that Retina-like display, it's pretty darn good.
Battery life as tested in a lab, rather than leaving it up to the manufacturer.
Tablet Battery Life
Nexus 7 (2013) 7:15
Apple iPad mini 12:43 (WiFi)
Apple iPad (late 2012) 11:08 (WiFi)
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/29/nexus-7-review-2013/
The iPad 3 is coming up on 2 years old. The iPad 4 was released last fall, and would be a much better test.
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but why does Apple like to use proprietary chargers/connectors so much in the first place? It may be that poor-quality third-party chargers could damage the device. But then I have to ask, why are iDevices so fragile in the first place? It seems most other smartphones have a standard USB port and can work with any old 5V power supply.
-Micro USB is terrible. Charges slow, isn't reversible, etc.
-The iDevices aren't 'fragile', the knockoff chargers are just poorly made. Nothing to do with the device.
They let one company do their R&D for the platform (Google) and another company for hardware and software design (Apple). They spend all of their money on bribes and advertising. This is an extremely mediocre hardware and software company.
NFC is over a decade old and never took off. Industry needs to shift behind BLE.
Shows how far behind Samsung is in terms of hardware engineering. They stack the deck and still can't touch a 9 month old phone. Both browser performance and gaming performance, the 2 most stressful use cases on a smartphone, are way behind Apple. http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54305.png
Look at your link. It shows the S4 beating the iP5. Also Sunspider is kind of weird. I think that current Windows Phones with underpowered SoCs post the best scores in more recent comparisons, and that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Regarding your other links, yes, the iP5 has oddly good GPU performance.
The S4 beats the iPhone 5 while in a freezer. It has heat dissipation issues due to poor built quality.
I always thought the point of a benchmark is to show what a device is capable. So if the "phone does indeed let its GPU run at a higher frequency when particular benchmark software is running", Its just showing what its capable of. Though I would definitely want to run benchmarks the whole day and see what happens.
For mobile, benchmarks need to balance with heat dissipation and battery life. If you can't run at that clock speed for an extended period of time due to heat or battery life, this is very misleading.
Also when 80% of the apps on the Android platform are unstable POS then I don't care about how fast they crash. Even Chrome quits unexpectedly repeatedly and this is by the company that makes the Android platform on their own Nexus brand devices.
Your fault for not doing research ahead of time. I have literally hundreds of games on both my iPad and iPhone and never experience crashes. Android is a terrible gaming platform.
Hate to burst you bubble, but how many American companies flat out lie about there products? .
A small minority compared with these Asian knock-off companies.
Samsung has received no punishment to date for creating a 150 page report on how to change their phones to look more like iPhones. Until they are actually punished, they will continue to mislead the public.
The other recent topic is how ridiculous their "waterproof" phone is. They clog up the connectors with rubber plugs. If the rubber plug gets loose, your phone is fried.
Shows how far behind Samsung is in terms of hardware engineering. They stack the deck and still can't touch a 9 month old phone. Both browser performance and gaming performance, the 2 most stressful use cases on a smartphone, are way behind Apple.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54294.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54296.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54300.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54298.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6914/54305.png
Google is sick of 1 company on earth making any significant money off Android, and it isn't them. Expect Android to become less and less open.
Glad I skipped this one.
What plane do you live on? The iPhone 5 was barely distinguishable from the 4? It had a larger screen, replace glass with an aluminum unibody shell, removed the metal band around the edges, and introduced a 2-toned color look to the back. Only a buffoon can't spot these differences a mile away.
The iPad hasn't "tanked". They broke the constant upgrade cycle with the iPad 4th gen last fall. That means this quarter doesn't have the benefit of a brand new iPad 3 (like last year) and the channel inventory is much lower due to an impending iPad 5.
Sounds like you're living for your phone. Simplifyyyyyyyyyyyy, man!
I would argue my phone lives for me, but it could be a distinction without a difference.
Countless times per day I'm removing my smartphone from my pocket simply to check today's calendar, today's to-dos, weather, latest emails, latest calls/sms, latest notifications, and of course the time. Quick access to your ecosystem would be a tremendous convenience.
The other big opportunity is sensors. Fitness and health are the obvious ones, but it could even branch into creative uses of an accelerometer.
The key here is the hardware engineering, where Apple has the big advantage. This thing needs to have multi-day battery life with the screen on continuously. It needs to utilize Bluetooth 4/BLE to reduce battery impact to your tablet/smartphone. The screen needs to have more brightness than the typical junk AMOLED. The microphone needs to be sensitive enough to operate at a distance farther than the typical smartphone.
My bet is Apple has a wealth of ideas, but they are still nailing down the hardware engineering aspect. Now that they are custom-designing their own SoCs, I believe this should be sooner than later.
Too many middle-income families already struggle paying for gas, raising those taxes wouldn't solve anything. Cycling infrastructure should be setup by local governments, not federal. High-speed rail should be setup by the private sector, not public. 0 for 3
Studies show time and time again that there are marginal differences at best between the major search engines. Google has the majority share due to their brand name. If Microsoft can offer a product tailored for education, they can introduce other non-search engine products to profit from.
Google, with 97%+ of their revenue from advertising, doesn't have that luxury.
Even if this is true (that they have bulletproof evidence), given the fact that this tactics is often used against people who later turn out to be innocent, it ought to be banned in general anyway.
Why should we encourage crime sprees? If I know I will only get charged with one instance of a crime, I'm going to rob a dozen 7-11s instead of one. You should not be rewarded for committing more crimes.
The reason it sounds like patent trolling is more because it sounds like extortion. They leveraged the law to force him to plea. If he hadn't he could have spent years going around the country until someone convicted him. I don't know much about him or if he deserves his conviction or not but that seems like a flaw in the justice system that should be fixed.
They have evidence he broke the law on numerous occasions. A murderer being charged for multiple murders isn't a loophole.
This is not, by any means, a new strategy. Bad defense attorneys have been able to identify this tactic and get erroneous charges thrown out quickly for many years. The kid is simply trying to shift blame.
Companies exist to make money for their shareholders. Sometimes they run out of productive things to do with the money they have, so the most responsible thing to do is return it to shareholders. Apple's strategy is to make a lot of money now, not invest for some far future payoff.
Well Apple was doing both. In the quarter they just reported there were massive increases in capital expenditures, looks like another product is around the corner.
Ditch them.
Drugs, legalise them or at least the softer stuff and decriminalise the harder stuff.
Until studies stop showing the softer stuff leads to harder stuff, this won't happen.