Look at the sheep running for the food in the hopes of getting a better phone. Apple's people must be made of money, they are very willing to purchase anything Apple puts out and deal with the short comings.
They also don't seem to care about the workers and how they are treated or have the company blinders on. I am not just talking about the ones in China either, there have been numerous writeups about workers here in the US.
Actually I don't put up with any shortcomings, which is why I don't buy Android products.
I don't put up with plastic phones. I don't put up with oversized devices that cannot be used with one hand. I don't put up with terrible battery life, crashing operating systems, crashing apps, and slow response time to taps and swipes.
Most of Android marketshare comes from prepaid and free-after-subsidy low end phones with no margin. This is why every Android manufacturer combined times 4 doesn't equal only Apple's profit.
We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.
Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.
Qualcomm already licenses the necessary 4G/LTE patents when making their wireless radios. Samsung has tried, and failed, in the past to also charge those who are purchasing the radios (in this case Apple). This is nothing but FUD.
I realise your comment is limited, and I haven't read the whole claim, but doesn't the claim to any number of design choices sound ridiculous to you?
Apple owns the identity of the iPhone. You can articulate this identity by detailing a list of specific hardware and software choices that make the iPhone unique. Almost all smartphones are rectangular with rounded corners - and this by itself is completely innocent. Samsung made dozens of purposeful and willful choices to create a product that mimicked the iPhone in almost every way possible. This is not ridiculous whatsoever, and an entire jury agreed.
Um, OK? That was the entire point of this article. Samsung made specific choices to create hardware and modify Android that violated Apple patents. HTC hasn't made those same choices. Hence the entire Android ecosystem is still safe as long as you aren't as dumb as Samsung.
Actually there were Cydia hacks for the iPhone 3G for the notification pull-down menu that predate Android. If anything, Apple copied from the developers of jailbroken software.
And OTA updates? Please, don't tell me you think Android invented them.
I have a lot of stuff on my android devices that aren't ad supported.
I've had ad supported stuff on an iPhone.
Overall, I'd have to say, I like the feel, smoothness and flexibility of an Android device significantly more than the iDevices out there.
Seriously? I've heard many arguments on why people like Android over iOS, but I've never heard anyone claim "smoothness." Even the newest builds of Android after 'Project Butter' are still significantly more laggy than iOS. Google made a mistake by rushing their touch interface after they saw the first iPhone. It was poorly done and needs to be completely rewritten.
"Putting aside the question of whether a company can patent stuff like a rectangle with rounded edges"
OK I expect this from an Android fan forum, but I expect more out of Slashdot.
Apple has a trade dress patent. There are around 10 individual characteristics that make up the image of an iPhone. This includes rounded corners, grid of icons that can be swiped, lower set of icons that are static, edge to edge glass, black or white with chrome borders, etc.
Apple does not own a patent over any of the individual characteristics. To say they do is flat out ignorant. To violate trade dress, you need to copy all or almost all of the individual characteristics. Simply having rounded corners is not something that Apple has an exclusive license on.
If you would listen to an Apple conference call, you would find out that iTunes and the App Store barely make any profit. Apple's margins come from hardware sales due to their mastery of their supply chain, not from overpriced 99c songs or 99c apps.
because this is just ridiculous. I will no longer support any of their products - mobile or otherwise. Doesn't take much research to find how much Samsung blatantly rips off their competitors.
"Specifically, there's not just one bad batch of Nexus 7 tablets out there - there may multiple bad batches with different problems. Few reviewers got the bad units, of course, because one of the basic jobs of tech product PR is to make sure the gadget works before you send it out. Some of this is luck, of course; we have three tablets and no problems here."
Really? 7" vs. 9.7"? Is that 2.7" size difference _really_ a make or break feature
A 4:3 9.7" iPad has 45 square inches of screen surface area. A 16:9 7" Nexus has just over 20 square inches of screen surface area, less than *half*. So yes, the size difference is incredible.
"Well, we are the most focused company that I know of, or have read of, or have any knowledge of. We say no to good ideas every day. We say no to great ideas in order to keep the amount of things we focus on very small in number, so that we can put enormous energy behind the ones we do choose, so that we can deliver the best products in the world. In fact, the table that each of you are sitting at today, you could probably put every product on it that Apple makes, and yet Apple’s revenue last year was over $40 billion. I think the only other company that could say that is an oil company."
Microsoft is too large and unfocused to sustain innovation. They will continue to be fast followers, and still make plenty of money doing it.
"They are not flying against decades of peer reviewed research - earlier data were projections; those will tend to be massively wrong, just look at your local weather forecasts..."
If Slashdot commenters admit that data projections can be massively wrong, then they must admit that climate projections (the favorite topic around here) could be wrong.
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Look at the sheep running for the food in the hopes of getting a better phone. Apple's people must be made of money, they are very willing to purchase anything Apple puts out and deal with the short comings.
They also don't seem to care about the workers and how they are treated or have the company blinders on. I am not just talking about the ones in China either, there have been numerous writeups about workers here in the US.
Actually I don't put up with any shortcomings, which is why I don't buy Android products.
I don't put up with plastic phones. I don't put up with oversized devices that cannot be used with one hand. I don't put up with terrible battery life, crashing operating systems, crashing apps, and slow response time to taps and swipes.
Probably because 31% of North Americans are likely to purchase the iPhone 5.
http://www.marketnews.ca/content/index/page?pid=11889
Most of Android marketshare comes from prepaid and free-after-subsidy low end phones with no margin. This is why every Android manufacturer combined times 4 doesn't equal only Apple's profit.
Apple does not release preorder numbers directly from carriers, and the iPhone 5 is launching on more carriers than any other iPhone version.
We're talking about the first 24 hours here, US only and directly from consumers. Galaxy S3's 9 million pre-orders was over a longer period, worldwide and pre-orders by carriers. You're comparing apples and lemons.
Galaxy S3 did not have 9 million preorders. Samsung confirmed it took just under 2 months to sell 10 million.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57477475-94/samsung-galaxy-s3-hits-10-million-sales-mark-early/
..rather than a hardware issue. This article could have been written about, *gasp*, a school trying to adopt Linux.
Qualcomm already licenses the necessary 4G/LTE patents when making their wireless radios. Samsung has tried, and failed, in the past to also charge those who are purchasing the radios (in this case Apple). This is nothing but FUD.
Actually, if you bothered to RTFA, Apple is lowering their profits and profit margins by censoring.
Please tell me how not selling apps maximizes profits? Tell me how spending the man hours to censor increases margins?
No reason to need a native app for pins on a map.
The only reason to make it a native app is to get the exposure from the App Store, which is the exact reason apps like this get denied.
Both companies bring products to market, so by definition they are not patent trolls.
Oh wait, mentioning iOS vs Android results in clicks!!
Continue on.
I almost wish I was in the jury. Maybe I could have prevented the idiotic verdict.
Did you listen to all of the testimony from every witness? I know an entire group of people who did who would disagree with you.
I realise your comment is limited, and I haven't read the whole claim, but doesn't the claim to any number of design choices sound ridiculous to you?
Apple owns the identity of the iPhone. You can articulate this identity by detailing a list of specific hardware and software choices that make the iPhone unique. Almost all smartphones are rectangular with rounded corners - and this by itself is completely innocent. Samsung made dozens of purposeful and willful choices to create a product that mimicked the iPhone in almost every way possible. This is not ridiculous whatsoever, and an entire jury agreed.
http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/samsung-vs.-apple-e1313955567548.jpg
This blatant copying should not be allowed.
Um, OK? That was the entire point of this article. Samsung made specific choices to create hardware and modify Android that violated Apple patents. HTC hasn't made those same choices. Hence the entire Android ecosystem is still safe as long as you aren't as dumb as Samsung.
HTC was king of Android phones a few years ago. Once Samsung started stealing Apple tech, they took the crown from HTC.
Now that HTC and Samsung should be competing on an even playing field again, I predict HTC will overtake Samsung for good this time.
Actually there were Cydia hacks for the iPhone 3G for the notification pull-down menu that predate Android. If anything, Apple copied from the developers of jailbroken software.
And OTA updates? Please, don't tell me you think Android invented them.
I have a lot of stuff on my android devices that aren't ad supported. I've had ad supported stuff on an iPhone. Overall, I'd have to say, I like the feel, smoothness and flexibility of an Android device significantly more than the iDevices out there.
Seriously? I've heard many arguments on why people like Android over iOS, but I've never heard anyone claim "smoothness." Even the newest builds of Android after 'Project Butter' are still significantly more laggy than iOS. Google made a mistake by rushing their touch interface after they saw the first iPhone. It was poorly done and needs to be completely rewritten.
"Putting aside the question of whether a company can patent stuff like a rectangle with rounded edges"
OK I expect this from an Android fan forum, but I expect more out of Slashdot.
Apple has a trade dress patent. There are around 10 individual characteristics that make up the image of an iPhone. This includes rounded corners, grid of icons that can be swiped, lower set of icons that are static, edge to edge glass, black or white with chrome borders, etc.
Apple does not own a patent over any of the individual characteristics. To say they do is flat out ignorant. To violate trade dress, you need to copy all or almost all of the individual characteristics. Simply having rounded corners is not something that Apple has an exclusive license on.
If you would listen to an Apple conference call, you would find out that iTunes and the App Store barely make any profit. Apple's margins come from hardware sales due to their mastery of their supply chain, not from overpriced 99c songs or 99c apps.
Do people actually believe this garbage or are these just bad jokes?
The majority of scientists I know lean right. Only the bad scientists who will say anything for more 'free' government funding lean left.
because this is just ridiculous. I will no longer support any of their products - mobile or otherwise. Doesn't take much research to find how much Samsung blatantly rips off their competitors.
http://dcurt.is/chromebox-samsung
http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/samsung-vs.-apple-e1313955567548.jpg
..due to quality issues.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
"Specifically, there's not just one bad batch of Nexus 7 tablets out there - there may multiple bad batches with different problems. Few reviewers got the bad units, of course, because one of the basic jobs of tech product PR is to make sure the gadget works before you send it out. Some of this is luck, of course; we have three tablets and no problems here."
Really? 7" vs. 9.7"? Is that 2.7" size difference _really_ a make or break feature
A 4:3 9.7" iPad has 45 square inches of screen surface area. A 16:9 7" Nexus has just over 20 square inches of screen surface area, less than *half*. So yes, the size difference is incredible.
"Well, we are the most focused company that I know of, or have read of, or have any knowledge of. We say no to good ideas every day. We say no to great ideas in order to keep the amount of things we focus on very small in number, so that we can put enormous energy behind the ones we do choose, so that we can deliver the best products in the world. In fact, the table that each of you are sitting at today, you could probably put every product on it that Apple makes, and yet Apple’s revenue last year was over $40 billion. I think the only other company that could say that is an oil company."
Microsoft is too large and unfocused to sustain innovation. They will continue to be fast followers, and still make plenty of money doing it.
"They are not flying against decades of peer reviewed research - earlier data were projections; those will tend to be massively wrong, just look at your local weather forecasts..."
If Slashdot commenters admit that data projections can be massively wrong, then they must admit that climate projections (the favorite topic around here) could be wrong.
Compare Samsung's hardware design for phones and tablets before and after the release of the iPhone and iPad.
http://photos.appleinsider.com/samsungvsapple.081911.jpg
Apple is using the only mechanism available to fight this blatant theft of IP.
For $299 I can buy both an entry level Xbox 360 and an Apple TV. This Q is a disaster.