you mean, it's 8.99 for a FDA-approved *edible* gallon in an individual container
Exactly. Part (a small part, but a part) of why "gas is cheaper than milk per volume" is that gas is sold in milk, while each gallon of milk must have its own individual container.
On a side note, what exactly did the kids design? It says they designed "a car", but they didn't. They just changed an existing design so that the engine could take soy as an input. And I'm pretty sure that was already possible.
This has got to be a joke. SCO... openly admitting their doing something which amounts to spamming and multi-level marketing, and the trakemarking or copyrighting or whatever the term "Me"*? April is still a month away guys (and a day).
*Yes, I know they're "only trakemarking 'Me' in relation to their service". Except they won't. They'll go after any marginally related use so they can maybe for a settlement from the skittish... if indeed this is all true.
The condescension of some biologists drives me nuts. I remember a magazine that published arguments from IDers (all relatively respected, with PhD's) followed by response from more wizened biologists. Now, if I were responding to a fellow scientist, I would treat them respectfully as I dismantled their arguments. But what did the magazine call this collection? Something like "Evolution: Science versus faith." Okay, if the people were openly religious and phrasing their arguments that way, I can see that title as being fair. But people with PhD's presenting what they deem scientific arguments? The whole title is skewed against them. It would be like a magazine publishing economists responses to arguments against tax cuts with the title of the "debate" as "Tax Cuts: Economics and Emotion".
I totally agree. It's so easy to say, "why aren't more people helping out on open source?" Many people want to, but the programs don't lend themselves to easy modification. So what if I get the GIMP source code? Does that tell me how to find where to modify transformation X and then recompile the whole thing? Honestly -- how many people *who know C++* are capable of actually making sense of the source code for an F/OSS program written in that language? As a fraction, wise guy. If we just made the program code more accessible and easy to understand, torrents of new people would assist on any and every project.
ICANN already issues domain names in alternate alphabets. Just visit their site. There's already [chinese characters].[chinese characters]. The only change is that Chinese DNS servers would point people to what they deem to be the correct IP. Which is actually no big deal for interoperability. If you want to reference a site defined by the Chinese ICANN counterpart, just list the site as "Chinanet (orwhatever they call their internet): www.communismrocks.com". Browers then may come with a little box before the address bar that you check to indicate that it should interpret the domain as per China's DNS servers. I mean, minor inconvenience, maybe, but as long as you know which internet you're using, it's completely interoperable.
What do you know about getting laid? Oh, that's right, your four wives. Plus the 72 virgins in heaven when your blow yourself up to take down some Jewish babies.
Google has a big cash cow -- the search engine advertising. Some of the free things you listed are already making them money, and some have yet to go. But this isn't a fly-by-night company hoping to cash out at a peak.
And your premise (actually, the premise of the entire story posting) is way off. Google's performance was decidely not lacking. They did very well. They just didn't do as well as many expected. If you transferred their numbers over to virtually other company, normalizing for size, the investors would be pissing in their pants with joy. From an investor's standpoint, Google has good long-term health. From the perspective of someone trying to make a quick buck, okay, they failed you. But a) that's not investing but gambling, and b) Google doesn't want your investment anyway.
I think the main problem in brown countries is that America does not trade with brown countries. You can call it racism, I don't know, but if you look at South America, our neighbors to the south, or Mexico directly below us, we barely trade with them and they are right next door. We bring more jobs to China and India than we do to Mexico, then we complain about illegal immigration.
Please, get a fucking clue. America buys lots of things from Mexico -- ever hear people compalin about auto-makers moving factories down there? How much "produce of Mexico" did you buy on your last trip to the supermarket? The US has been lifting trade barriers against Latin America, against significant opposition. The US is criticized for sending jobs to and buying products from these poor countries. And then Americans get labled as "imperialistic" for doing that! Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Don't buy from poor countries -- but don't not buy from them either!
Exactly. It's not like anybody doesn't already know this stuff is unbelievably unrealistic. Wait, with less negatives:
Everyone already knows this stuff doesn't apply to real life.
There, that was better.
We already know the labor theory of value doesn't apply in real life. We all know that no matter how much effort you put into something, it could be worthless. We all know that you could put only a little effort into something, and everyone wants it. Thank you, TFA, for catching up with the last 150 years of economics. We were already caught up, but thanks.
Exactly. Note that isn't not nearly as bad when every student happens to have a laptop in his backpack. In that case, yes, every student is walking around with a $2000 fenceable item whose relationship to the owner can be erased... but the thieves don't necessarily know this. When your university requires them, it's effectively announcing "Hey, everyone you see walking around on campus is 99.99% guaranteed to have thousands of dollars on them. Do with that knowledge what you wish." That's basically a gold mine for thieves in the area, and whatever businesses students frequent in that area.
Yeah, good point. And while we're at it, why Roman letters (A, B, C, D, Z)? Aren't Japanese characters good enough? Do they really hate their own native writing system that much? I can imagine a rating system like, "Nihongo" for "everybody" (since they think Japan is the world), "nino" for "appropriate for small children", "yakuza" for "appropriate for teens", and "seppuku" for "adults only". That way they wouldn't be aping the West.
Exactly. A few more steps, and it will be as easy to use as Windows (and with better security!). Great work, I've always pushed for a better Gnome interface, and even submitted my own tinkerings. I wish they'd beef up the encryption some more so we don't have to struggle to keep up with the NSA.
Is it wrong to want your fellow students to be praised for their hard work?
It's wrong to define yourself by what *other people* accomplished. Those other people are not you. You have no reason to be proud that you had more physical proximity to them. You're just revealing your "us vs. them" mentality. You are an individual. You are not Rice. When you accomplish something, let us know. When people who went to the same university as you accomplish something, stay the fuck out of their limelight.
First of all, I'm at 0, not 1, and my karma was positive two days ago. Thanks for revealing that you're one of my freaks who has given enemies a mod penality.
I think you missed my point. The GP of your post was saying how he "invented" an answering machine that sets up different profiles and sends emails. Answering machines have been invented. OS's have been invented. Email has been invented. All his ("non-software") invention does is code an answering machine to have profiles and send emails. WOW. That's SO original. That's SO non-software.
Copper obeys precisely the same economic laws as oil. It matters nothing that copper "can be recycled". All that means is that the first response to supply contractions is copper recycling, not increasing efficiency. But the principle is the same -- if oil genuinely becomes scarce, the futures markets will react long in advances and redirect production methods. There will be no shock. If you deny this, buy futures. And quit giving people the info they need to eat into your profits.
You do know precisely when peak oil will occur, right?
I started to develop a residential answering machine that allows a family to setup individual profiles with independent mailboxes, greetings, and email addresses to forward messages as attachments.
So in other words, you're another... person... trying to get a software patent. Please, spare us all, and don't file this one. Ever.
Whoa whoa whoa, don't get me wrong, you and I agree in several essential respects. The first recipients of the newly printed money do indeed make out like bandits (great work if you can get it). But the money-inflation pressure upward on prices does raise nominal wages. More than the loss in purchasing power? No. My point was just that the nominal, cash-denominated amount is misleading. If Wal-Mart workers pull home $900 a week next year, I absolutely agree it may not even buy what $200 does now.
Many students are capable of and willing to contribute to research, but only a small fraction of them get the opportunity. It would be really great if we could better reach such students in their high school years.
Keep in mind, this is '07 when you'll be buying it. At the rate the fed is inflating the money supply, $900 will be a week's pay for an entry level Wal-Mart worker in '07. Cheer up!
We can critique the merits of any one control input all day. My point was that you were so locked into thinking that a machine capable of moving someone at 12 mph had to take inputs from the orientation of your feet that the mere thought of alternative methods didn't even enter your mind. That's why the analogy was apt -- just because a controller can't detect some specific aspect of your body doesn't mean it can't still get what it needs to know.
(In case you want a more modern or well known analogy, here goes: If I proposed using a light switch to turn on lights, your response is like saying, "Uh, how the fuck is it supposed to hear you clapping to indicate you want the lights turned on?")
And yes, I am an engineer (though not currently working in dynamic systems and controls), and it's precisely the ability (that you seem to lack) to distinguish between "what I want it to accomplish" and "what are possible methods of making it accomplish that" that makes a good engineer. And I doubt that "working well" was the only, or even the primary consideration for choosing it -- like you said before, it was because it would reduce marginal costs on a related product. Also, I think the decision was based on wanting to have a gimmick to "wow" consumers with. Which is great to have. But I also know I haven't bought one, and would if it used a cheaper solution that allowed it to sell at a lower price. Why aren't they selling, again?
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you mean, it's 8.99 for a FDA-approved *edible* gallon in an individual container
Exactly. Part (a small part, but a part) of why "gas is cheaper than milk per volume" is that gas is sold in milk, while each gallon of milk must have its own individual container.
On a side note, what exactly did the kids design? It says they designed "a car", but they didn't. They just changed an existing design so that the engine could take soy as an input. And I'm pretty sure that was already possible.
This has got to be a joke. SCO ... openly admitting their doing something which amounts to spamming and multi-level marketing, and the trakemarking or copyrighting or whatever the term "Me"*? April is still a month away guys (and a day).
*Yes, I know they're "only trakemarking 'Me' in relation to their service". Except they won't. They'll go after any marginally related use so they can maybe for a settlement from the skittish... if indeed this is all true.
Come on, SCO can't be *that* stupid.
I was at work, you dumb nigger, and I didn't want to raise any red flags by typing "penis".
The condescension of some biologists drives me nuts. I remember a magazine that published arguments from IDers (all relatively respected, with PhD's) followed by response from more wizened biologists. Now, if I were responding to a fellow scientist, I would treat them respectfully as I dismantled their arguments. But what did the magazine call this collection? Something like "Evolution: Science versus faith." Okay, if the people were openly religious and phrasing their arguments that way, I can see that title as being fair. But people with PhD's presenting what they deem scientific arguments? The whole title is skewed against them. It would be like a magazine publishing economists responses to arguments against tax cuts with the title of the "debate" as "Tax Cuts: Economics and Emotion".
I totally agree. It's so easy to say, "why aren't more people helping out on open source?" Many people want to, but the programs don't lend themselves to easy modification. So what if I get the GIMP source code? Does that tell me how to find where to modify transformation X and then recompile the whole thing? Honestly -- how many people *who know C++* are capable of actually making sense of the source code for an F/OSS program written in that language? As a fraction, wise guy. If we just made the program code more accessible and easy to understand, torrents of new people would assist on any and every project.
ICANN already issues domain names in alternate alphabets. Just visit their site. There's already [chinese characters].[chinese characters]. The only change is that Chinese DNS servers would point people to what they deem to be the correct IP. Which is actually no big deal for interoperability. If you want to reference a site defined by the Chinese ICANN counterpart, just list the site as "Chinanet (orwhatever they call their internet): www.communismrocks.com". Browers then may come with a little box before the address bar that you check to indicate that it should interpret the domain as per China's DNS servers. I mean, minor inconvenience, maybe, but as long as you know which internet you're using, it's completely interoperable.
Then I start mass-mailing - how is the ISP supposed to know I am doing illegal spam? How do they know my lists are not legitimate spam lists?
Because... there aren't many wagner-enlargment mailing lists that have over a million people?
What do you know about getting laid? Oh, that's right, your four wives. Plus the 72 virgins in heaven when your blow yourself up to take down some Jewish babies.
Google has a big cash cow -- the search engine advertising. Some of the free things you listed are already making them money, and some have yet to go. But this isn't a fly-by-night company hoping to cash out at a peak.
And your premise (actually, the premise of the entire story posting) is way off. Google's performance was decidely not lacking. They did very well. They just didn't do as well as many expected. If you transferred their numbers over to virtually other company, normalizing for size, the investors would be pissing in their pants with joy. From an investor's standpoint, Google has good long-term health. From the perspective of someone trying to make a quick buck, okay, they failed you. But a) that's not investing but gambling, and b) Google doesn't want your investment anyway.
Right. Exactly my point. Your position isn't even in the same solar system as "consistent".
I think the main problem in brown countries is that America does not trade with brown countries. You can call it racism, I don't know, but if you look at South America, our neighbors to the south, or Mexico directly below us, we barely trade with them and they are right next door. We bring more jobs to China and India than we do to Mexico, then we complain about illegal immigration.
Please, get a fucking clue. America buys lots of things from Mexico -- ever hear people compalin about auto-makers moving factories down there? How much "produce of Mexico" did you buy on your last trip to the supermarket? The US has been lifting trade barriers against Latin America, against significant opposition. The US is criticized for sending jobs to and buying products from these poor countries. And then Americans get labled as "imperialistic" for doing that! Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Don't buy from poor countries -- but don't not buy from them either!
Charity is legal under pure capitalism. Just a heads up.
Also, under capitalism, you're allowed to do hybrid charity/profit-making companies. It's really neat. You should get a dictionary sometime.
Exactly. It's not like anybody doesn't already know this stuff is unbelievably unrealistic. Wait, with less negatives:
Everyone already knows this stuff doesn't apply to real life.
There, that was better.
We already know the labor theory of value doesn't apply in real life. We all know that no matter how much effort you put into something, it could be worthless. We all know that you could put only a little effort into something, and everyone wants it. Thank you, TFA, for catching up with the last 150 years of economics. We were already caught up, but thanks.
It's called Shareza (sp?). There's also DC++. They both work great. Try it sometime.
Exactly. Note that isn't not nearly as bad when every student happens to have a laptop in his backpack. In that case, yes, every student is walking around with a $2000 fenceable item whose relationship to the owner can be erased ... but the thieves don't necessarily know this. When your university requires them, it's effectively announcing "Hey, everyone you see walking around on campus is 99.99% guaranteed to have thousands of dollars on them. Do with that knowledge what you wish." That's basically a gold mine for thieves in the area, and whatever businesses students frequent in that area.
Yeah, good point. And while we're at it, why Roman letters (A, B, C, D, Z)? Aren't Japanese characters good enough? Do they really hate their own native writing system that much? I can imagine a rating system like, "Nihongo" for "everybody" (since they think Japan is the world), "nino" for "appropriate for small children", "yakuza" for "appropriate for teens", and "seppuku" for "adults only". That way they wouldn't be aping the West.
Exactly. A few more steps, and it will be as easy to use as Windows (and with better security!). Great work, I've always pushed for a better Gnome interface, and even submitted my own tinkerings. I wish they'd beef up the encryption some more so we don't have to struggle to keep up with the NSA.
Is it wrong to want your fellow students to be praised for their hard work?
It's wrong to define yourself by what *other people* accomplished. Those other people are not you. You have no reason to be proud that you had more physical proximity to them. You're just revealing your "us vs. them" mentality. You are an individual. You are not Rice. When you accomplish something, let us know. When people who went to the same university as you accomplish something, stay the fuck out of their limelight.
First of all, I'm at 0, not 1, and my karma was positive two days ago. Thanks for revealing that you're one of my freaks who has given enemies a mod penality.
I think you missed my point. The GP of your post was saying how he "invented" an answering machine that sets up different profiles and sends emails. Answering machines have been invented. OS's have been invented. Email has been invented. All his ("non-software") invention does is code an answering machine to have profiles and send emails. WOW. That's SO original. That's SO non-software.
Hey, not a bad ad-hoc differentiation!
Copper obeys precisely the same economic laws as oil. It matters nothing that copper "can be recycled". All that means is that the first response to supply contractions is copper recycling, not increasing efficiency. But the principle is the same -- if oil genuinely becomes scarce, the futures markets will react long in advances and redirect production methods. There will be no shock. If you deny this, buy futures. And quit giving people the info they need to eat into your profits.
You do know precisely when peak oil will occur, right?
I started to develop a residential answering machine that allows a family to setup individual profiles with independent mailboxes, greetings, and email addresses to forward messages as attachments.
... person ... trying to get a software patent. Please, spare us all, and don't file this one. Ever.
So in other words, you're another
Whoa whoa whoa, don't get me wrong, you and I agree in several essential respects. The first recipients of the newly printed money do indeed make out like bandits (great work if you can get it). But the money-inflation pressure upward on prices does raise nominal wages. More than the loss in purchasing power? No. My point was just that the nominal, cash-denominated amount is misleading. If Wal-Mart workers pull home $900 a week next year, I absolutely agree it may not even buy what $200 does now.
Many students are capable of and willing to contribute to research, but only a small fraction of them get the opportunity. It would be really great if we could better reach such students in their high school years.
Keep in mind, this is '07 when you'll be buying it. At the rate the fed is inflating the money supply, $900 will be a week's pay for an entry level Wal-Mart worker in '07. Cheer up!
We can critique the merits of any one control input all day. My point was that you were so locked into thinking that a machine capable of moving someone at 12 mph had to take inputs from the orientation of your feet that the mere thought of alternative methods didn't even enter your mind. That's why the analogy was apt -- just because a controller can't detect some specific aspect of your body doesn't mean it can't still get what it needs to know.
(In case you want a more modern or well known analogy, here goes: If I proposed using a light switch to turn on lights, your response is like saying, "Uh, how the fuck is it supposed to hear you clapping to indicate you want the lights turned on?")
And yes, I am an engineer (though not currently working in dynamic systems and controls), and it's precisely the ability (that you seem to lack) to distinguish between "what I want it to accomplish" and "what are possible methods of making it accomplish that" that makes a good engineer. And I doubt that "working well" was the only, or even the primary consideration for choosing it -- like you said before, it was because it would reduce marginal costs on a related product. Also, I think the decision was based on wanting to have a gimmick to "wow" consumers with. Which is great to have. But I also know I haven't bought one, and would if it used a cheaper solution that allowed it to sell at a lower price. Why aren't they selling, again?