not to shield yourself from prosecution when you knowingly and repeatedly download copyrighted music that you do not pay for
C'mon, it's unbelievable that still here on/. there are people which believe that it's unlawful to download. The copyright infringement is actually the distribution, i.e. the uploading. Looks like the RIAA's PR campaign does it's job...
Airlines are commercial enterprises and they can set whatever policies they want. Yes I know the analogy isn't perfect because the Airline industry is federally regulated, but it's still the same thing. It's a business policy to present valid ID before boarding a pressurized aluminum tube carrying a ton of highly volatile fuel, and that's that.
Exactly. If they set the policies how they want, some of them will require ID and some will not - and I may be able to choose. But in that case they had to require the ID, because the government said so, and as a result it is not "business policy" any more.
As Bulgarian I hope you have read the book "Fascism". You know exactly what are the similarities between the Communist regime and the Fascist one. And guess what - the difference is only that in the Fascist countries there are private companies.
The main idea is - when you start to give up your rights, even to private companies, this becomes a rule (or at least you get used to it). Then the next step is easy - you will not object too hard if the government do this as well.
"but I am more wary of laws that tell a private business what it can do than of businesses that impose stupid requirements."
Exactly - but in that case it is what happens - the government tells the airlines how to check the passengers, so you even do not have the freedom to choose a competitor, which does not impose these stupid requirements.
Jokes aside - but MS Office is a separate product. I may buy it and run it under wine. If OGA stops updates for wine users, MS may face some other (legal) problems.
-- Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap.
... would put European companies at a competitive disadvantage...
Actually... will put MS at competitive disadvantage. What do they think - that all these big American companies, with large EU offices, and large EU business are going to upgrade in US, while they can not do it EU??? They'll just wait, not only because large companies are not first adopters, but because they would like to lower their support costs, supporting a similar environment.
So, MS either will release on time in EU, or even if they start selling in US before that, most of their customers will not jump to upgrade until they can use Vista in their international branches.
I can not believe how this can be modded Insightful. I just hate that I can not mod and post a comment in the same discussion. And I'd better reply:
Insightful statement is: "The excuses are just like asses - everyone their own"
I can not imagine how valuable is the guys time - looks like not so much as he pretends. For the time he spend to post all this (which is 1/2 not rue as best) he could just boot ANY live CD distro - being it SUSE, or Ubuntu, and try by himself.
Statements like:
I don't know anything about Linux... nothing at all. before I'd even get started I'd have to do research into what the best distribution for me is. before I even do that I need to find outlets online that I trust to provide me with a useful comparison of the different distributions as well as making sure it's up-to-date, unbiased, and complete.
are such a nonsense. What are you trying to say: that because Windows is one and only, everything you read about it is up-to-date, unbiased, and complete? From outlets you trust to ask for your money???
Don't let me start with the drivers fog...
P.S. - I use Windows and Linux on a daily basis - using Windows feeds my family. But for everything else I would say - the hell my free time, I can sacrifice some of it, just to be free in my choices. And I do agree that it is a lot easier to accept some tyranny just being lazy.
The comment has a couple of glaring issues that makle me question how qualified the author is to actually be talking authoritatively:
1. None of these is true. Encrypted SMTP, POP and IMAP all exist and we've been using encrypted POP/IMAP where I work for over two years now.
In the article it is clearly stated, that you may encrypt the traffic between the client machine and the server, but once there, the traffic between SMTP hosts is not encrypted.
2. Considering that this guy is, judging from the content of his post, very Microsoft-centered, for him to not know what Kerberos is suggests he is not even close to any kind of expertise in the field.
Kerberos is not M$ invention. Actually they put a lot of efforts to modify it, so it can not easily interop with the other implementations.
3. Such as? How could IMAP be better?...
He says that IMAP has limitations. The whole article is about the limitations in the e-mail system, and the result should be a better collaboration system, without these limitations. It was never meant to suggest improvement in IMAP, etc.
4. Yes there is, because (say it with me!) E-MAIL IS NOT PRONE TO VIRUSES. E-MAIL CLIENTS ARE.
This is only part of the problem. With the limited (if any widely used) ability to really authenticate the sender (say with me: EMAIL SPOOF), you can easily mislead the recipient to open a malicious file.
Yes, there are some good points in your comment, but you have to filter them out from the sophistry.
Believe it or not, just today, after the news, 4 friends (hardcore Win users I try to convert:) for a long time) called me to help them to switch.
Note, that all of them have legal versions of Win, but are really annoyed by the attitude.
And what is that? The only think they promised was more networking... and THEY DID IT - with all their products they let the whole world network in your machine:)
All the power of **AAs is because of the bribes they provide to different legislators. And the nice sounding "we protect authors profits".
Ok, what will happen if we "bribe" the authors, thus protecting their profits? Are they going to sign again with the studious?
My proposal is: on every torrent site, for every torrent there to be a PayPal (or any other) link for direct donation to the authors. If most of the downloaders donate even 1$, and it is obvious that it is because of the torrent site, I guess a lot of authors will change their minds about P2P, and the way they distribute their works.
The fire department is public service, put in place to deal with the consequences (fight the fire after it starts), while the banks are private business, which is there for customer's money.
The online banking is benefit for both parties - banks and clients. The banks save a big $ not paying for tellers and office space, customers do not need to drive to the bank.
And guess who gets more:)
So, the banks are much more interested in keeping the online banking. Then they have to be the ones more interested into improving the security (i.e. implementing a new/different type of client authentication, etc.). They are not going to do this unless start to lose customers and/or money.
Hmmm... fast user switching - I had this long ago hitting F1-F6:)
Anyway, this their "invention" is so broken by design, that they needed to remove it from their Pro version when connected in a domain, because they did not get the networking right...
And, speaking about the mouse... you'd better give them a credit for the 2 buttons as well, the poor bastards at Apple had to live with one button only.
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not to shield yourself from prosecution when you knowingly and repeatedly download copyrighted music that you do not pay for
C'mon, it's unbelievable that still here on /. there are people which believe that it's unlawful to download. The copyright infringement is actually the distribution, i.e. the uploading. Looks like the RIAA's PR campaign does it's job ...
Yes, the two regimes are similar, but one has to be really paranoid to say that the US is anywhere close to Fascism today.
"paranoid" - is this the same word for like: "... the bad guys are going to take us, lets check IDs, which they already have ..." :)
Just a joke :)
Airlines are commercial enterprises and they can set whatever policies they want. Yes I know the analogy isn't perfect because the Airline industry is federally regulated, but it's still the same thing. It's a business policy to present valid ID before boarding a pressurized aluminum tube carrying a ton of highly volatile fuel, and that's that.
Exactly. If they set the policies how they want, some of them will require ID and some will not - and I may be able to choose. But in that case they had to require the ID, because the government said so, and as a result it is not "business policy" any more.
The main idea is - when you start to give up your rights, even to private companies, this becomes a rule (or at least you get used to it). Then the next step is easy - you will not object too hard if the government do this as well.
"but I am more wary of laws that tell a private business what it can do than of businesses that impose stupid requirements."
Exactly - but in that case it is what happens - the government tells the airlines how to check the passengers, so you even do not have the freedom to choose a competitor, which does not impose these stupid requirements.As usual on /.: Does it run on linux?
Jokes aside - but MS Office is a separate product. I may buy it and run it under wine. If OGA stops updates for wine users, MS may face some other (legal) problems.
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Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap.
Yeah, good adaptation of "Office space" :)
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A side question - do you have any information about Bulgaria providing more info? As far as I know, there are no direct flights, so
Actually ... will put MS at competitive disadvantage. What do they think - that all these big American companies, with large EU offices, and large EU business are going to upgrade in US, while they can not do it EU??? They'll just wait, not only because large companies are not first adopters, but because they would like to lower their support costs, supporting a similar environment.
So, MS either will release on time in EU, or even if they start selling in US before that, most of their customers will not jump to upgrade until they can use Vista in their international branches.
There is no American Empire today...
C'mon mods - either mod me flamebyte, or mod the parent "Funny".
Whether I would rather have less privacy and less terrorism v. more privacy and more terrorism is a tough call to make
Who said it should be binary? Either privacy, or terrorism?
Do you have any proof that reducing the privacy will really end with less terrorism?
How about - less freedoms/privacy - more government control - more government terror over the citizens? Have you ever read any history?
Now if you can post your girlfriend's email, so we can send her what you have wrote ... :)
I can not believe how this can be modded Insightful. I just hate that I can not mod and post a comment in the same discussion. And I'd better reply:
Insightful statement is: "The excuses are just like asses - everyone their own"
I can not imagine how valuable is the guys time - looks like not so much as he pretends. For the time he spend to post all this (which is 1/2 not rue as best) he could just boot ANY live CD distro - being it SUSE, or Ubuntu, and try by himself.
Statements like:
I don't know anything about Linux... nothing at all. before I'd even get started I'd have to do research into what the best distribution for me is. before I even do that I need to find outlets online that I trust to provide me with a useful comparison of the different distributions as well as making sure it's up-to-date, unbiased, and complete.
are such a nonsense. What are you trying to say: that because Windows is one and only, everything you read about it is up-to-date, unbiased, and complete? From outlets you trust to ask for your money???
Don't let me start with the drivers fog ...
P.S. - I use Windows and Linux on a daily basis - using Windows feeds my family. But for everything else I would say - the hell my free time, I can sacrifice some of it, just to be free in my choices. And I do agree that it is a lot easier to accept some tyranny just being lazy.
The comment has a couple of glaring issues that makle me question how qualified the author is to actually be talking authoritatively:
1. None of these is true. Encrypted SMTP, POP and IMAP all exist and we've been using encrypted POP/IMAP where I work for over two years now.
In the article it is clearly stated, that you may encrypt the traffic between the client machine and the server, but once there, the traffic between SMTP hosts is not encrypted.
2. Considering that this guy is, judging from the content of his post, very Microsoft-centered, for him to not know what Kerberos is suggests he is not even close to any kind of expertise in the field.
Kerberos is not M$ invention. Actually they put a lot of efforts to modify it, so it can not easily interop with the other implementations.
3. Such as? How could IMAP be better?...
He says that IMAP has limitations. The whole article is about the limitations in the e-mail system, and the result should be a better collaboration system, without these limitations. It was never meant to suggest improvement in IMAP, etc.
4. Yes there is, because (say it with me!) E-MAIL IS NOT PRONE TO VIRUSES. E-MAIL CLIENTS ARE.
This is only part of the problem. With the limited (if any widely used) ability to really authenticate the sender (say with me: EMAIL SPOOF), you can easily mislead the recipient to open a malicious file.
Yes, there are some good points in your comment, but you have to filter them out from the sophistry.
Believe it or not, just today, after the news, 4 friends (hardcore Win users I try to convert :) for a long time) called me to help them to switch.
Note, that all of them have legal versions of Win, but are really annoyed by the attitude.
With all the DRM sh^Htuff they put in the HD-DVD it is hardly possession any more ...
Skype for one. Their new video stuff requires XP, and does not work on 2K.
And what is that? The only think they promised was more networking ... and THEY DID IT - with all their products they let the whole world network in your machine :)
but now Microsoft is 'expected to offer sophisticated virtualization products in the next year or two.
So, what's new. We've seen it before.
1. Say that you are going to release a "new", "feature rich", "superior", etc. product after an year.
2. Businesses stop buy competing products, thus killing the competitors.
3. Release a crappy product, stolen (or bought) from someone, and cripple it more.
4. ?????? (Balmer jumps, etc.)
5. Profit
I can not accept this as problem. It's so easy to use Wine to run the old apps. And it is free.
Oh, wait ...
Now is the time for CBS to file a suit for copyright infringement against parentstv.org. Just to recover the fine.
Can you use it to make small paper swans?
The best part is that after you make them, they'll change their color to blue, and will never fly away.
All the power of **AAs is because of the bribes they provide to different legislators.
And the nice sounding "we protect authors profits".
Ok, what will happen if we "bribe" the authors, thus protecting their profits? Are they going to sign again with the studious?
My proposal is: on every torrent site, for every torrent there to be a PayPal (or any other) link for direct donation to the authors. If most of the downloaders donate even 1$, and it is obvious that it is because of the torrent site, I guess a lot of authors will change their minds about P2P, and the way they distribute their works.
That doesn't mean that houses here are overpriced.
What are these mods doing. This is funny. It was a joke.
Ooops, I just ruined it ... explaining
This analogy is completely wrong.
:)
The fire department is public service, put in place to deal with the consequences (fight the fire after it starts), while the banks are private business, which is there for customer's money.
The online banking is benefit for both parties - banks and clients. The banks save a big $ not paying for tellers and office space, customers do not need to drive to the bank.
And guess who gets more
So, the banks are much more interested in keeping the online banking. Then they have to be the ones more interested into improving the security (i.e. implementing a new/different type of client authentication, etc.). They are not going to do this unless start to lose customers and/or money.
me: old timey VB6 fan, but what do I know
I don't know what you know, but now we all knowHmmm ... fast user switching - I had this long ago hitting F1-F6 :)
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... you'd better give them a credit for the 2 buttons as well, the poor bastards at Apple had to live with one button only.
Anyway, this their "invention" is so broken by design, that they needed to remove it from their Pro version when connected in a domain, because they did not get the networking right
And, speaking about the mouse