Have Gmail go get your email from your server using POP3. I've been doing this for at least three years now and it's always worked for me. My public email is a Gmail account, and my private email is a Gmail account. My double-secret private email is on another server under one of my domains and Gmail happily collects them all.
An anonymous coward essentially answered this under the subject "Occam's Razor" but since many users here screen out ACs, I've posted the solution in the open with my fabulous karma.
Our job involves learning and using new technologies and if you refuse to do that you should be doing something else - regardless of your age.
I couldn't agree with you more.
For many years I used a PC in my job, at first buying my own and bringing it to the office. I actually had a boss that told me to stop wasting my time using it and stick to company procedure - handwriting stuff. He was a real POS and because of him, I left that job after nearly ten years with the firm.
My next employment was with a much smaller organization, and not only did they embrace the PC [well, Macs at first, but later they saw the light:)] but demanded staff have advanced skills. It was wonderful to be there.
Technology is a part of the modern working world and if someone is not comfortable with it, they should seek employment where computer skills are not needed. That's getting harder to find because even some of the most routine labor jobs require the use of a PC to enter data.
All I was trying to say was just because the technology is available, shouldn't mean that you remain connected 24/7/365. Personal downtime is essential to good health, physical and mental. I know there are people that love being connected full time, but there was a time - not all that long ago - when such a concept was unthinkable. Yes, if you were "on call" you needed to be near a phone. The cell phone changed all that - you could go for a walk and still be "on call". Yes, if you derive your income from sales and your customers prefer to email their orders to you, a BB is essential.
Let's just remember people come first. Technology should enhance our lives, not enslave us.
You must be new here - you're much too normal to be a real/.er.
One young whippersnapper made the comment that you must be an ornery old-time that didn't want to learn new technology. He may be joking, but he's probably a complete ageist, as you know your industry is full of them.
While I appreciate and enjoy the incredible technology that has made the BB possible, these kids need to know there was a good life before BBs and cell phones and 24/7/365 connectivity. I don't want any of it to go away, but all the tech has one common trait - a switch that allows the user to turn them off. And if they don't, take out the damn battery.
I doubt anyone was "forced" to develop this type of device. It became possible due to the ever shrinking cost of the technology required for these devices. I don't know what the system is built on, but I'd be willing to bet the processor is probably no more powerful than an old Pentium. That's technology that has filtered down to a much more accessible level to low cost devices.
I do agree with your assertion that the topic needs more discussion. I'd personally like to operate many functions of my house remotely, but the X10 interface doesn't thrill me. I've used them for years for lighting projects (holiday lights, etc) and have seen too many fail to be trusted with real responsibility. It would seem to be a simple technology to build, I just don't know why there isn't more competitors to X10.
People who say things like, "Well, obviously, company $x is a business, so they can do whatever they want" or "Your boss pays you money to work, so you have to do whatever he says" are invariably idiots.
Hate? Wow, you must have a difficult life.
A business can do as it pleases if there is a financial justification to do so. You as a consumer, can stop doing business with such a business if you don't like the change. It's not like NF has a monopoly on mail order rentals.
That's called choice, and we all have the right to make it. In this case, a good thing is going away. A lot of comments on here have the change related to database management issues, but I'd guess that's a small part of the issue. Most likely, supporting multiple warehouses around the country and the rise in postal rates is putting pressure on their profits. The Netflix folks looked at the features that make the least amount of profit and decided to drop the profiles plan.
It's not the end of the world. It's DVD rentals for gawd's sakes.
if the process really worked they would be commercializing it and completely destabilizing OPEC.
The process is likely to work, though scaling up may be a problem....
I seem to remember that when Yahoo was looking for capital investment, VCs started throwing money at a company that had no product and no sales. Same happened when they went public. So, here's a company that has a product that can replace fossil fuels at a time when fuel prices are sky-high and they're having problems scaling up?
Maybe they should start sending spam to generate funds.
After a page refresh, I realized you stole my thunder, but you're right. I've used Giganews for 12 years and they've served all my Usenet needs just fine.
Comcast offers Giganews to its subscribers, but limits downloads to 2 GB per month. Hell, even after stripping out the menus and extras, no movie is that small!
Usenet downloads are, IMO, faster and easier to obtain than P2P. Lots of good music exists on Usenet.
Oh god, you actually link the "deaths of our sons and daughters" to "Buying SUV's". Didn't think I'd see that kinda crap on Slashdot, but maybe I'm wrong. Hyperbole much?
If you remember the "Back To The Future" movie, when Marty mentioned his family owned two televisions, his then-child uncle says "wow, you must be rich!" Today, multiple TVs are the norm.
Certainly, many people will never have or want a room where the primary purpose is to display a large screen and 6 channel surround sound. But, as history has shown, designers adapt to the wishes of home buyers by tailoring room designs to contemporary needs. By and large, homes built in the last five to ten years now have larger rooms than homes built in the 70s and 80s and even early 90s.
At some point in the future, all 4:3 televisions will be gone and the flat screen will be as standard as the 4:3 tv has been. It may take 15 to 20 years or more, and even longer before the housing stock has accommodates the larger flat screens, but it will happen.
Every home had a fireplace at one time, but with the development of central heat, the fireplace has become an accessory rather than a necessity.
For me, GMail equals unprofessional. It equals Mom and Pop.
Quite the contrary if you took the time to learn about it.
If the Gmail return address perturbs you, then add a custom domain to your return address. You can have any domain in the return address as long have an email account on that domain. Gmail is quite handy for email consolidation - checking several accounts in one place. Certainly, there are others that do that, but none I've tried have the spam filtering capabilities of Gmail.
As for not being able to afford your own mail server - lots of small businesses, schools or non-profits don't have those resources available, so Gmail fills the bill quite nicely.
It's not perfect, but it just may be the next best thing for some entities.
I love AVG, but the version 8 isn't really as good as the 7.5. It eats up CPU and is a bit more intrusive. Wish that I hadn't upgraded.
If what AVG says is true, they won't offer updates for 7.5 (free) version after June 08. But I agree, vers 8 is choking my older laptop thanks to the spyware app being included in the package.
I would second that. My former employer went with Postini in 2003 and the management of spam became a piece of cake. I used to see about 2-3 false positives in my email each month, but it usually was due to the sender creating newsletters that were "spammy", in other words, had many spam characteristics. After several attempts to get them to test their emails on a testing site, they finally did and never got caught in the Postini filters again.
We had used SpamAssasin from 2000 until 2003 and while it worked well, the definitions had to be updated regularly or spam would creep through.
Gmail seems to get ALLOT more spam than other service's. I guess you've never had a Yahoo email address. The free version - and the paid version, so I hear - get pummeled with spam every day.
I've worked in a company that used to sell via the internet (and postal mail before that). It was never a big issue before the internet, but the states are imagining millions going uncollected and that gives the money-loving pols a severe case of agita.
From a programming perspective, how hard is it to examine a couple of fields - country, state and zip code. All of the tax data resides in a table. The table is populated from data supplied via a subscription service - like now. That's how tax information is made available to businesses that need to keep up with changes for payroll and other uses.
This isn't a question of how it can be done, it's a political question of why it needs to be done.
Here's a novel solution - do away with all sales taxes - or local income taxes. In the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, we have both here. Some states have one or the other.
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Have Gmail go get your email from your server using POP3. I've been doing this for at least three years now and it's always worked for me. My public email is a Gmail account, and my private email is a Gmail account. My double-secret private email is on another server under one of my domains and Gmail happily collects them all.
An anonymous coward essentially answered this under the subject "Occam's Razor" but since many users here screen out ACs, I've posted the solution in the open with my fabulous karma.
Our job involves learning and using new technologies and if you refuse to do that you should be doing something else - regardless of your age.
I couldn't agree with you more.
For many years I used a PC in my job, at first buying my own and bringing it to the office. I actually had a boss that told me to stop wasting my time using it and stick to company procedure - handwriting stuff. He was a real POS and because of him, I left that job after nearly ten years with the firm.
My next employment was with a much smaller organization, and not only did they embrace the PC [well, Macs at first, but later they saw the light :)] but demanded staff have advanced skills. It was wonderful to be there.
Technology is a part of the modern working world and if someone is not comfortable with it, they should seek employment where computer skills are not needed. That's getting harder to find because even some of the most routine labor jobs require the use of a PC to enter data.
All I was trying to say was just because the technology is available, shouldn't mean that you remain connected 24/7/365. Personal downtime is essential to good health, physical and mental. I know there are people that love being connected full time, but there was a time - not all that long ago - when such a concept was unthinkable. Yes, if you were "on call" you needed to be near a phone. The cell phone changed all that - you could go for a walk and still be "on call". Yes, if you derive your income from sales and your customers prefer to email their orders to you, a BB is essential.
Let's just remember people come first. Technology should enhance our lives, not enslave us.
(thud) as he steps off the soapbox.......
You must be new here - you're much too normal to be a real /.er.
One young whippersnapper made the comment that you must be an ornery old-time that didn't want to learn new technology. He may be joking, but he's probably a complete ageist, as you know your industry is full of them.
While I appreciate and enjoy the incredible technology that has made the BB possible, these kids need to know there was a good life before BBs and cell phones and 24/7/365 connectivity. I don't want any of it to go away, but all the tech has one common trait - a switch that allows the user to turn them off. And if they don't, take out the damn battery.
Life can be so quiet.......
I do agree with your assertion that the topic needs more discussion. I'd personally like to operate many functions of my house remotely, but the X10 interface doesn't thrill me. I've used them for years for lighting projects (holiday lights, etc) and have seen too many fail to be trusted with real responsibility. It would seem to be a simple technology to build, I just don't know why there isn't more competitors to X10.
Hi. Some of us don't like reading 96-word rambling sentences. Thanks.
Yes, but IPv4 commas and periods are in short supply.
Well That's Fine with me
It may not be a city, but New Jersey deserves at least an honorable mention.
What exit?
People who say things like, "Well, obviously, company $x is a business, so they can do whatever they want" or "Your boss pays you money to work, so you have to do whatever he says" are invariably idiots.
Hate? Wow, you must have a difficult life.
A business can do as it pleases if there is a financial justification to do so. You as a consumer, can stop doing business with such a business if you don't like the change. It's not like NF has a monopoly on mail order rentals.
That's called choice, and we all have the right to make it. In this case, a good thing is going away. A lot of comments on here have the change related to database management issues, but I'd guess that's a small part of the issue. Most likely, supporting multiple warehouses around the country and the rise in postal rates is putting pressure on their profits. The Netflix folks looked at the features that make the least amount of profit and decided to drop the profiles plan.
It's not the end of the world. It's DVD rentals for gawd's sakes.
The process is likely to work, though scaling up may be a problem....
I seem to remember that when Yahoo was looking for capital investment, VCs started throwing money at a company that had no product and no sales. Same happened when they went public. So, here's a company that has a product that can replace fossil fuels at a time when fuel prices are sky-high and they're having problems scaling up?
Maybe they should start sending spam to generate funds.
Damn. What department do they sell enriched uranium in? And, does it quality for the 6 month, no-interest deal?
How about Lowes - do they have it too?
After a page refresh, I realized you stole my thunder, but you're right. I've used Giganews for 12 years and they've served all my Usenet needs just fine.
Comcast offers Giganews to its subscribers, but limits downloads to 2 GB per month. Hell, even after stripping out the menus and extras, no movie is that small!
Usenet downloads are, IMO, faster and easier to obtain than P2P. Lots of good music exists on Usenet.
What they needed was an equalizer. Something small and compact like a S&W M&P 45 with hollow points would take care of business.
You must be new here.
You mean this has been a joke........?
If you remember the "Back To The Future" movie, when Marty mentioned his family owned two televisions, his then-child uncle says "wow, you must be rich!" Today, multiple TVs are the norm.
Certainly, many people will never have or want a room where the primary purpose is to display a large screen and 6 channel surround sound. But, as history has shown, designers adapt to the wishes of home buyers by tailoring room designs to contemporary needs. By and large, homes built in the last five to ten years now have larger rooms than homes built in the 70s and 80s and even early 90s.
At some point in the future, all 4:3 televisions will be gone and the flat screen will be as standard as the 4:3 tv has been. It may take 15 to 20 years or more, and even longer before the housing stock has accommodates the larger flat screens, but it will happen.
Every home had a fireplace at one time, but with the development of central heat, the fireplace has become an accessory rather than a necessity.
With the internet, does it matter where the film production takes place? I think not.
Quite the contrary if you took the time to learn about it.
If the Gmail return address perturbs you, then add a custom domain to your return address. You can have any domain in the return address as long have an email account on that domain. Gmail is quite handy for email consolidation - checking several accounts in one place. Certainly, there are others that do that, but none I've tried have the spam filtering capabilities of Gmail.
As for not being able to afford your own mail server - lots of small businesses, schools or non-profits don't have those resources available, so Gmail fills the bill quite nicely.
It's not perfect, but it just may be the next best thing for some entities.
Ahhhh.....nooo.....I think the peeing game will suffice. But thanks for playing
And there's this little gem
If what AVG says is true, they won't offer updates for 7.5 (free) version after June 08. But I agree, vers 8 is choking my older laptop thanks to the spyware app being included in the package.
I would second that. My former employer went with Postini in 2003 and the management of spam became a piece of cake. I used to see about 2-3 false positives in my email each month, but it usually was due to the sender creating newsletters that were "spammy", in other words, had many spam characteristics. After several attempts to get them to test their emails on a testing site, they finally did and never got caught in the Postini filters again.
We had used SpamAssasin from 2000 until 2003 and while it worked well, the definitions had to be updated regularly or spam would creep through.
Gmail is almost clean in comparison.
Difficult to solve? How so?
I've worked in a company that used to sell via the internet (and postal mail before that). It was never a big issue before the internet, but the states are imagining millions going uncollected and that gives the money-loving pols a severe case of agita.
From a programming perspective, how hard is it to examine a couple of fields - country, state and zip code. All of the tax data resides in a table. The table is populated from data supplied via a subscription service - like now. That's how tax information is made available to businesses that need to keep up with changes for payroll and other uses.
This isn't a question of how it can be done, it's a political question of why it needs to be done.
Here's a novel solution - do away with all sales taxes - or local income taxes. In the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts, we have both here. Some states have one or the other.
It was a bad morning. Neither of us could get it up today..........