These two statements are not contradictory. The suction is indeed incredible -- but ONLY on carpet. On hardwood floors, the design simply does not work, and much of the dirt isn't sucked up.
As the owner of a Dyson vacuum, I can confirm that they are one-trick ponies. Yes, the suction is incredible, but the overall design is poor, the materials are shockingly cheap, and in most respects it simply doesn't work as a vacuum cleaner. For example, on hardwood floors even the smallest specks of dirt -- the size of a crumb or smaller -- are simply pushed around the floor, instead of being sucked up by a Dyson. It's no surprise their return rate is high; I'd have returned mine, had I not gotten it free of charge from my credit card company's rewards scheme.
The government already has direct control of your data if they want it. You don't think Comcast bends over double to provide anything they want in the hopes of retaining their monopoly?
The happy Comcast customer is a myth, just like Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Sure, there may be some unhappy DSL customers remaining to poach, but thanks to their legally-regulated monopoly, Comcast's own service is unreliable, awful and badly, badly overpriced too. These customers are jumping out of the frying pan, and into a bigger frying pan. Switching to Comcast will likely make their internet faster when it works, but it will also make it much more expensive and their happiness won't improve one iota.
If there are problems for certain users due to their input devices then you fix the problems in those devices, you don't force a suboptimal solution on all users instead.
I've never seen any such message in Chrome on Windows *or* Android, and I've seen the back "bug" (at least, I consider it to be one because it's such an awful design) many, many times.
Citation needed. Stutter, yes. Glitch, rarely. Crash? I literally cannot remember any of my console games *ever* having crashed. My PC games have crashed many hundreds if not thousands of times over the years, and they're hardly immune to stuttering or glitches either.
Hello, straw man. Nice to meet you. Those are completely unrelated topics, but thanks for bringing them up. Poor manufacturing processes and sloppy design happen in desktop components too, and that doesn't change the fact that it's still harder to make a game that has to be compatible with hundreds of thousands of different hardware combinations, instead of perhaps two or three closely-related hardware revisions.
Exactly. As someone who has to work in the browser all day, every day, this "feature" lost me SO much work it's just not funny.
It's also not as if this was the only option other than your mouse, either. Alt-Left Arrow does the *exact* same thing, but not with a single key so it's far harder to bump by mistake. You're welcome.
Exactly. What Microsoft has just done is ensure I won't be buying the XBone Two (XBone Too?) either, because they've taken away the main thing which makes it preferable to gaming on my desktop PC: The fact that every game runs properly and never crashes, stutters or glitches because my hardware is different to that the devs tested on.
Except that there's the battery to replace in an electric car, because it has a limited charge life. Last I checked, Tesla was charging around ten grand for battery replacements, and that non-trivial charge will pretty much level the maintenance playing field against combustion-engined cars. (And perhaps, because it is a lump sum that hits hard in one go, result in electric cars being scrapped at a much, much younger age than their gasoline-powered equivalents.)
This, this, a thousand times this, and it's the reason I won't even consider an electric vehicle with current tech. The issue isn't the 95% of the time when electric would serve me just fine, but the 5% of time when I need to do a longer road trip, and electric would be a huge inconvenience. The only solution to that inconvenience would in itself be a pain in the butt -- renting a proper car from the nearest affordable source (~45 minutes drive away) and then either paying for public transport to get there, or paying to park my car there. Those edge cases might be infrequent, but they're often enough that electric just isn't worthwhile to me, and nor is it going to be any time soon.
Even the industry lobbyists don't make the ridiculous claims you do, but instead say profit margin is 3% and taxes are 21%. (http://airlines.org/media/ticket-cost-breakdown/) And you can pretty much guarantee even those figures are crap.
A casual glance, for example, at Delta's 2015 FY statement shows total operating revenue of $28,898 million, and net income of $4,526 million -- that's 11% profit, inclusive of cargo. Looking at passenger traffic specifically, they show an operating cost per available seat mile of 13.33 cents, and a passenger mile yield of 16.59 cents. That's a 24%+ profit margin.
Yes, that's looking at the most profitable US airline specifically, but your numbers are complete hogwash even if you look at the others. The US airline industry is posting record profits -- about US$22 billion between American, Southwest, Delta and United last year -- and has plenty of money to invest in its future if it wants to. But you can pretty much guarantee it won't, because it will rely on a bailout to save its ass again if the profits dry up.
Nicely biased answer. Compare a really inefficient, unaerodynamic vehicle (18mpg average per EPA) with utterly outdated technology that's been out of production for years (last sold in 2012) against a modern vehicle that has an aerodynamic design, uses current technology, and doesn't even exist yet. And even then, the numbers are complete crap.
The Jeep Liberty takes regular gas. At current national average retail prices (US$2.12/gallon per GasBuddy) and with the EPA-rated average economy, we're talking US$1,413 to fuel this archaic junkheap for 12,000 miles.
And since we're comparing American cars based on an American website's review, we should also be using American electricity costs -- what Ottawans pay is irrelevant. Per the EIA, the national average US electricity price for consumers is 12.67/kWh, almost 10% above your figure. Even assuming your other assumptions are correct, your cost is now US$570.
Instead of a savings of 4.75x on gas, we're already down to just 1.47x simply by using accurate figures. And that's against an intentionally inefficient vehicle from a totally different class than the Model 3. Now let's make a comparison that's actually valid -- a 2015 Mazda 6. Now we're managing 32mpg average per the EPA. Our gas cost is down to just US$795, and your savings is down to just 39%.
And while yes, you don't pay the minor costs you mentioned for some routine service associated with gas engines, instead you'll be paying US$10,000 to replace your battery once it dies. Swings and roundabouts. And as for some handwaving about the "company policy of not intending to make a profit off of car repairs", that's pretty much meaningless. You're a fool if you count on that as a reason for buying an overpriced car in the first place, and the Model 3 is badly overpriced. The Mazda6 sedan we've compared to here has a starting price that's fully one-third lower than the Tesla -- and if anything, it's going to be the larger and more comfortable vehicle despite that.
And in my experience, my mileage is typically significantly better than the EPA predictions, so frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the difference in gas versus electricity cost was, in the end, little to none at all. But this is Tesladot, and it's 24/7 Elon Musk fellation session here, so I'm not surprised to see utterly biased figures supplied as "fact".
This is the USA. We're the ultimate example of why privatization is a bad thing. Want ambulance service? Oh, no, you're taxes don't cover that. Pay up. House on fire? No, your taxes don't cover that either -- pay $900/year for the privilege of maybe having some of your stuff saved if it goes up in flames. Instead of the lowest possible cost spread across an entire nation, it's essentially legalized extortion and most people just try and do without.
Oh, and that $900 figure? That's not made up. It's approximately what I'd be charged per year for fire service in my old house in a relatively less affluent neighborhood in a non-rural area of a reasonably large city. It's approximately 0.6% of the entire value of my house, every year. When I first moved here, I got a delightful letter from the local fire department -- which is why I call this extortion -- advising me that if I have a fire without paying up ahead of time, they'll either refuse to do anything except what's necessary to stop my house damaging a neighbor's house who paid up ahead of time, or they'll sit and watch my place burn until I agree to pay into the tens of thousands of dollars -- even if they don't manage to save a single thing.
This. Instead of hyping Tesla, this idiot should have called for an ambulance. What happens if he passes out on the way to the hospital, and then his "autopilot" decides it can't quite tell what it's doing and reverts control the unconscious driver? An accident, that's what.
Tesla owners really are a special kind of stupid to rely on autopilot like they do.
Everything I've read says nowhere *near* "half" of Tesla Model 3 owners will get that. But OK, let's humor you: There are at *least* 357 types which cost the same or less than the Tesla Model 3, meaning that almost two thirds of the vehicles I mentioned (not "perhaps most") are still cheaper even if you get the subsidy -- and you don't have to gamble on getting it.
You also don't have to pay sales tax on the rebate amount, which I'm guessing most folks will have to do (since the sales tax on the rebate will almost certainly not be refunded). That's a non-trivial amount: $525 in my market.
That savings can't possibly be counted before the car even exists. It could be a huge savings, or it could turn out to be a small one or none at all. Just because it's electric or Tesla is no guarantee.
It's worth noting that preorders -- even with a meager deposit -- are not the same thing as orders. Just how many of those preorders are speculative in the hopes of turning around and selling immediately at a profit? I'd wager the answer is "many of them", and many more will likely never be turned into actual orders.
I'd also argue that the Model 3 is far from being "low cost" or sold at "a price people do want". At US$35,000 base, there are 564 new vehicle types (that's models and trim levels together) listed on Edmunds.com which are less expensive (I ruled out 11 vehicles that were almost $35k, accepting only anything sub-$34.5k.) And as of late last year, the average new car sale price in the US market was $33,500.
The Model 3 is, by most people's standards, still an expensive car.
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These two statements are not contradictory. The suction is indeed incredible -- but ONLY on carpet. On hardwood floors, the design simply does not work, and much of the dirt isn't sucked up.
Yes, it is direct control. Or are you not familiar with PRISM, and utterly naive to boot?
As the owner of a Dyson vacuum, I can confirm that they are one-trick ponies. Yes, the suction is incredible, but the overall design is poor, the materials are shockingly cheap, and in most respects it simply doesn't work as a vacuum cleaner. For example, on hardwood floors even the smallest specks of dirt -- the size of a crumb or smaller -- are simply pushed around the floor, instead of being sucked up by a Dyson. It's no surprise their return rate is high; I'd have returned mine, had I not gotten it free of charge from my credit card company's rewards scheme.
The government already has direct control of your data if they want it. You don't think Comcast bends over double to provide anything they want in the hopes of retaining their monopoly?
This. I did my best to campaign for it to be brought to my town -- and we were supposedly on the shortlist -- but we got passed over.
The happy Comcast customer is a myth, just like Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Sure, there may be some unhappy DSL customers remaining to poach, but thanks to their legally-regulated monopoly, Comcast's own service is unreliable, awful and badly, badly overpriced too. These customers are jumping out of the frying pan, and into a bigger frying pan. Switching to Comcast will likely make their internet faster when it works, but it will also make it much more expensive and their happiness won't improve one iota.
If there are problems for certain users due to their input devices then you fix the problems in those devices, you don't force a suboptimal solution on all users instead.
I've never seen any such message in Chrome on Windows *or* Android, and I've seen the back "bug" (at least, I consider it to be one because it's such an awful design) many, many times.
Yeah, the forced updates are certainly annoying. I experience the same thing myself.
Citation needed. Stutter, yes. Glitch, rarely. Crash? I literally cannot remember any of my console games *ever* having crashed. My PC games have crashed many hundreds if not thousands of times over the years, and they're hardly immune to stuttering or glitches either.
Hello, straw man. Nice to meet you. Those are completely unrelated topics, but thanks for bringing them up. Poor manufacturing processes and sloppy design happen in desktop components too, and that doesn't change the fact that it's still harder to make a game that has to be compatible with hundreds of thousands of different hardware combinations, instead of perhaps two or three closely-related hardware revisions.
Exactly. As someone who has to work in the browser all day, every day, this "feature" lost me SO much work it's just not funny.
It's also not as if this was the only option other than your mouse, either. Alt-Left Arrow does the *exact* same thing, but not with a single key so it's far harder to bump by mistake. You're welcome.
Exactly. What Microsoft has just done is ensure I won't be buying the XBone Two (XBone Too?) either, because they've taken away the main thing which makes it preferable to gaming on my desktop PC: The fact that every game runs properly and never crashes, stutters or glitches because my hardware is different to that the devs tested on.
Except that there's the battery to replace in an electric car, because it has a limited charge life. Last I checked, Tesla was charging around ten grand for battery replacements, and that non-trivial charge will pretty much level the maintenance playing field against combustion-engined cars. (And perhaps, because it is a lump sum that hits hard in one go, result in electric cars being scrapped at a much, much younger age than their gasoline-powered equivalents.)
This, this, a thousand times this, and it's the reason I won't even consider an electric vehicle with current tech. The issue isn't the 95% of the time when electric would serve me just fine, but the 5% of time when I need to do a longer road trip, and electric would be a huge inconvenience. The only solution to that inconvenience would in itself be a pain in the butt -- renting a proper car from the nearest affordable source (~45 minutes drive away) and then either paying for public transport to get there, or paying to park my car there. Those edge cases might be infrequent, but they're often enough that electric just isn't worthwhile to me, and nor is it going to be any time soon.
That right there is some high-quality tinfoil.
Even the industry lobbyists don't make the ridiculous claims you do, but instead say profit margin is 3% and taxes are 21%. (http://airlines.org/media/ticket-cost-breakdown/) And you can pretty much guarantee even those figures are crap.
A casual glance, for example, at Delta's 2015 FY statement shows total operating revenue of $28,898 million, and net income of $4,526 million -- that's 11% profit, inclusive of cargo. Looking at passenger traffic specifically, they show an operating cost per available seat mile of 13.33 cents, and a passenger mile yield of 16.59 cents. That's a 24%+ profit margin.
Yes, that's looking at the most profitable US airline specifically, but your numbers are complete hogwash even if you look at the others. The US airline industry is posting record profits -- about US$22 billion between American, Southwest, Delta and United last year -- and has plenty of money to invest in its future if it wants to. But you can pretty much guarantee it won't, because it will rely on a bailout to save its ass again if the profits dry up.
Microsoftese: "the company is testing out new notifications within File Explorer to provide tips on what's new in Windows 10"
English: "the company is testing out a new ad delivery system within File Explorer to push upsells on new features added to Windows 10"
Nicely biased answer. Compare a really inefficient, unaerodynamic vehicle (18mpg average per EPA) with utterly outdated technology that's been out of production for years (last sold in 2012) against a modern vehicle that has an aerodynamic design, uses current technology, and doesn't even exist yet. And even then, the numbers are complete crap.
The Jeep Liberty takes regular gas. At current national average retail prices (US$2.12/gallon per GasBuddy) and with the EPA-rated average economy, we're talking US$1,413 to fuel this archaic junkheap for 12,000 miles.
And since we're comparing American cars based on an American website's review, we should also be using American electricity costs -- what Ottawans pay is irrelevant. Per the EIA, the national average US electricity price for consumers is 12.67/kWh, almost 10% above your figure. Even assuming your other assumptions are correct, your cost is now US$570.
Instead of a savings of 4.75x on gas, we're already down to just 1.47x simply by using accurate figures. And that's against an intentionally inefficient vehicle from a totally different class than the Model 3. Now let's make a comparison that's actually valid -- a 2015 Mazda 6. Now we're managing 32mpg average per the EPA. Our gas cost is down to just US$795, and your savings is down to just 39%.
And while yes, you don't pay the minor costs you mentioned for some routine service associated with gas engines, instead you'll be paying US$10,000 to replace your battery once it dies. Swings and roundabouts. And as for some handwaving about the "company policy of not intending to make a profit off of car repairs", that's pretty much meaningless. You're a fool if you count on that as a reason for buying an overpriced car in the first place, and the Model 3 is badly overpriced. The Mazda6 sedan we've compared to here has a starting price that's fully one-third lower than the Tesla -- and if anything, it's going to be the larger and more comfortable vehicle despite that.
And in my experience, my mileage is typically significantly better than the EPA predictions, so frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the difference in gas versus electricity cost was, in the end, little to none at all. But this is Tesladot, and it's 24/7 Elon Musk fellation session here, so I'm not surprised to see utterly biased figures supplied as "fact".
This is the USA. We're the ultimate example of why privatization is a bad thing. Want ambulance service? Oh, no, you're taxes don't cover that. Pay up. House on fire? No, your taxes don't cover that either -- pay $900/year for the privilege of maybe having some of your stuff saved if it goes up in flames. Instead of the lowest possible cost spread across an entire nation, it's essentially legalized extortion and most people just try and do without.
Oh, and that $900 figure? That's not made up. It's approximately what I'd be charged per year for fire service in my old house in a relatively less affluent neighborhood in a non-rural area of a reasonably large city. It's approximately 0.6% of the entire value of my house, every year. When I first moved here, I got a delightful letter from the local fire department -- which is why I call this extortion -- advising me that if I have a fire without paying up ahead of time, they'll either refuse to do anything except what's necessary to stop my house damaging a neighbor's house who paid up ahead of time, or they'll sit and watch my place burn until I agree to pay into the tens of thousands of dollars -- even if they don't manage to save a single thing.
Nice, eh?
This. Instead of hyping Tesla, this idiot should have called for an ambulance. What happens if he passes out on the way to the hospital, and then his "autopilot" decides it can't quite tell what it's doing and reverts control the unconscious driver? An accident, that's what.
Tesla owners really are a special kind of stupid to rely on autopilot like they do.
OK, so you're a fanboi. Fair enough.
Everything I've read says nowhere *near* "half" of Tesla Model 3 owners will get that. But OK, let's humor you: There are at *least* 357 types which cost the same or less than the Tesla Model 3, meaning that almost two thirds of the vehicles I mentioned (not "perhaps most") are still cheaper even if you get the subsidy -- and you don't have to gamble on getting it.
You also don't have to pay sales tax on the rebate amount, which I'm guessing most folks will have to do (since the sales tax on the rebate will almost certainly not be refunded). That's a non-trivial amount: $525 in my market.
That savings can't possibly be counted before the car even exists. It could be a huge savings, or it could turn out to be a small one or none at all. Just because it's electric or Tesla is no guarantee.
It's worth noting that preorders -- even with a meager deposit -- are not the same thing as orders. Just how many of those preorders are speculative in the hopes of turning around and selling immediately at a profit? I'd wager the answer is "many of them", and many more will likely never be turned into actual orders.
I'd also argue that the Model 3 is far from being "low cost" or sold at "a price people do want". At US$35,000 base, there are 564 new vehicle types (that's models and trim levels together) listed on Edmunds.com which are less expensive (I ruled out 11 vehicles that were almost $35k, accepting only anything sub-$34.5k.) And as of late last year, the average new car sale price in the US market was $33,500.
The Model 3 is, by most people's standards, still an expensive car.