I think the influx of immigrants, average age is teens I think, will be the growth we need in that base.
Then hopefully we will restructure the system so that in the future... HAHAHAHA I could't say that part with a straight face. We'll never do a long term structural fix.
I probably did not make my point very well. The idea is that when the tractor appeared, it immediately displaced field workers -- a lot of workers. They did not curl up and die, they found other ways to earn a living. People are the smartest, most creative, most resourceful invention of the known universe. We deserve more credit, and less fear mongering about automation and technical advances.
It isn't a popular opinion for some reason, and I think it is because fear sells well and is cheap to produce. Hey, a new commodity!
Maybe we are still wired for fear, as a survival mechanism again saber tooth tigers, electrical storms, and soulless gold-digging women. We have to evolve.
This is a campaign populist appeal, but the facts are that about 20% of Americans pay 80% of the bill already, and the bottom 50% pay almost zero income tax; so no matter the "tax breaks," the rich are still footing the nation's bill.
I truly wish there was a massive untapped, currently untaxed group not paying their fair share, but it is just campaign sloganeering not based on the actual federal budget numbers (in the US that is.... Hello to our Canadian friends! Tired of our campaign cycles yet?)
Another perspective: Where are the mass graves of the tens of thousands of workers replaced with farm tractors? The ones who curled up and died when they were no longer needed to plow and plant and such?
We are more resourceful that skeptics believe, and change has always made people fearful. Fear sells, and it is easy to exclusively take council of that fear.
With respect, I would not ridicule a fearful pessimist, apprehension and fear are natural but not inevitable. I believe there's much more to be optimistic about ahead -- Challenges make us grow overall as a species.
Because it doesn't scale. Money has to keep moving or civilization collapses, and when you guys that turn the screws and get ALL the money keep it, it gets sucked out of the economy and stuck in the Cayman Islands or some such place.
The Cayman Islands. Really? So successful earners do this by and large, rather than invest in more success? And there's tens of trillions of dollars sitting in vaults in the Cayman Islands? Or maybe I am missing your conclusion, and if so, I am sincerely not trolling. I don't understand why anyone would believe these things, but I realize you're not alone in this kind of shorthand, describing what you believe wealthy people do with the money they've earned. If you really think about it, or read what the wealthiest people actually worry about and do with their earnings, you would see it is not this at all.
Maybe as a plot for a heist movie, but IRL this is not even close to what happens. Respectfully, I just think it's not well thought out as a basis for discussion.
Ads for trucks often show warranty-voiding off road activities. It's not CGI, the trucks will DO the stuff in the ad, but you're probably SOT (Spot Outta Truck) when you break it that way.
the cheerleader playing ping-pong in those high heels is asking for a broken ankle.
Dude, the idea is that in heels she will miss every shot... thus having to walk slowly over to the ball, then bend over to carefully pick up said ball.
Clearly you did not think this all the way through. Bro card suspension: One Week.
This shit is bread and butter for accountants, and I'm trained (among other things) as one.
Um, trained as "one" what? That sentence has several nouns, and from your humourless reply (note the Brit-friendly superfluous "U" !) I'm guessing it's a "shit".:-) Relax, I'm only serious.
All this evolution of employment definitions will be what it will be, so who knows, maybe we'll keep trying to squeeze the future into the old paradigms. You know, even the IRS still has a hard time with this question after all these years. They have a list of criteria to determine if you are possibly an employee, and if you meet a number of those criteria, you might be considered an employee, but maybe not. It is not a fixed quantity like 4 out of 10, or a fixed set, and they struggle with it to this day. It is up to an IRS reviewer to render an opinion... it is so vague that the opinion can be appealed.
I am sorry to hear about your sick relative. I may think you're an Anonymous Cowardly fossil when it comes to the new economy, but I'm not heartless.
It was great of you to provide employee status to the guy who raked your yard occasionally. The vacations, insurance plan, benefits package, and so forth must have been an accounting nightma.... Oh, wait, you do that stuff yourself. BTW, how much was workers comp insurance for that raking dude? Not high risk work exactly, but outdoor work rates are costly. Or so I have heard. When eavesdropping on people in suits.
Nevertheless, are you correct about something after all, I'm dumb as a brick. Guilty as charged, ignorant and inexperienced in business, whatever that is. And just like Barbie used to say, I also think math is hard.
Oh, and sorry you don't like my bold highlights, some friends of mine read News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters (TM) on their phones (don't worry, the phone/Internet thing is a fad, it'll pass) and they say it really helps break up the monotony of a phone-screen page's worth of regular narrow print as they scan for the main points.
Intersting point, I think many of us think the issue is hiring people with soft core liberal arts degrees. As someone who has hired folk, and I know this is not the room for such admissions, I looked a little, um, sideways if someone chose to major in Graffiti Sciences on purpose.
It may be untrue, but one of your first big independent decisions in life should indicate you can read, particularly read a chart showing the expected demand for new hires for a particular major.
Oh God, here come the flames, they burn, dammit, they burn. Say, who taught all these History of Matchsticks majors how to... oh, wait.
Grumble grumble... Damned Applied Arts.
Hey AC! I just saw you posting on the Ashley Madison password hack thread, good stuff!
Look up the recent poll taken by the current Uber drivers, a large many wanted to remain free and independent, so there's one metric on "many people want..." It is not salesman talk, it is a sense I get from all the people moving that direction. Trending topic and all that. I wish they had asked those Uber drivers if they had trust funds. Imagine that, all those trust fund kids driving for Uber. 'Bout damn time, some might say.
I am sorry about your worldview of people being so dumb. Really. I think you are mistaken. People are pretty bright, and getting brighter. I refer you to another search: A TED talk about the reasons for the dramatic rise in IQ scores over the last few generations. All those preferring to remain independent were also geniuses I guess, so genius trust fund kids driving for Uber. Imagine that, what an age of wonders we live in.
As to your final comment: if I am your employer, controlling your primary working hours and schedule and days off, I'm also limiting your other employment options. Unless you plan to work a second extra job secretly from within the cube I paid for, during the working hours I am paying for. That would be wrong. I forbid it. Unless you are a rising Scott Adams and will feature me in your Dilbert-esque comic strip. Line art portrait available if requested.
There. That wasn't so hard now was it?
One aside: How many of your employers allowed you unlimited time off, work 10 minutes a month, none, or 150 hours, at any time of day.. And never tell them ahead of time? Leave and come back six months later if you like, or never, and with no notice? Those dudes were awesome, why did you leave again? And Is the guy who rakes your leaves from time to time your employee?
Old mindset : Employee is someone I set hours for, provide all materials, put on a schedule, mandate production & performance requirements, allot specific amount of days off for vacation, days allowed for maternity, set days allowed for illness absence, provide workspace, and so forth.
New reality: A lot of gig jobs are on demand both ways; many people want the freedom to run themselves as a business, earn in a flexible / very few strings attached format, with an unlimited or unrestricted number of payment sources available.
It is not just Uber by a long shot, and a demographic shift is underway on many fronts. Uber is a highly visible symptom of a huge change.
Thanks for the civilized tone, btw; this is a highly charged subject for reasons I absolutely don't understand.
...Verizon, and they easily keep under their 2Gb limit.... [now] have gone over her limit, and how they are going to charge her $30 and this and that. After some investigation, turns out it was Win10 downloading.
And now M Night Shyamalan has optioned the movie version of Windows 10: The Bandwidth Rapist.
A root of this issue is the 18th, 19th and 20th century concepts of employees / employers and an outdated set of definitions. Like so many modern issues near and dear, we will have to reassess out fundamental assumptions about all kinds of things, this being just one.
If I set my own schedule, and take as much time off as I choose, am I under an employer's control?
Can robots marry humans, and why would they want to aside from Scarlett Johansson?
Do women have the right to choose... how their FICA retirement savings is invested?
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What's the best alternative right now for windows?
OS X? :-)
The impotent rage of true believers. The fantasy that a basement full of graphics cards will grant you wealth, power, prestige, and women.
Wwwwait.... there's gonna be women down here? Mama's not gonna approve of that... no, Mama's not gonna approve of that at all.
I think the influx of immigrants, average age is teens I think, will be the growth we need in that base. Then hopefully we will restructure the system so that in the future ... HAHAHAHA I could't say that part with a straight face. We'll never do a long term structural fix.
I probably did not make my point very well. The idea is that when the tractor appeared, it immediately displaced field workers -- a lot of workers. They did not curl up and die, they found other ways to earn a living. People are the smartest, most creative, most resourceful invention of the known universe. We deserve more credit, and less fear mongering about automation and technical advances.
It isn't a popular opinion for some reason, and I think it is because fear sells well and is cheap to produce. Hey, a new commodity!
Maybe we are still wired for fear, as a survival mechanism again saber tooth tigers, electrical storms, and soulless gold-digging women. We have to evolve.
This is a campaign populist appeal, but the facts are that about 20% of Americans pay 80% of the bill already, and the bottom 50% pay almost zero income tax; so no matter the "tax breaks," the rich are still footing the nation's bill.
I truly wish there was a massive untapped, currently untaxed group not paying their fair share, but it is just campaign sloganeering not based on the actual federal budget numbers (in the US that is.... Hello to our Canadian friends! Tired of our campaign cycles yet?)
Another perspective: Where are the mass graves of the tens of thousands of workers replaced with farm tractors? The ones who curled up and died when they were no longer needed to plow and plant and such?
We are more resourceful that skeptics believe, and change has always made people fearful. Fear sells, and it is easy to exclusively take council of that fear.
With respect, I would not ridicule a fearful pessimist, apprehension and fear are natural but not inevitable. I believe there's much more to be optimistic about ahead -- Challenges make us grow overall as a species.
Because it doesn't scale. Money has to keep moving or civilization collapses, and when you guys that turn the screws and get ALL the money keep it, it gets sucked out of the economy and stuck in the Cayman Islands or some such place.
The Cayman Islands. Really? So successful earners do this by and large, rather than invest in more success? And there's tens of trillions of dollars sitting in vaults in the Cayman Islands? Or maybe I am missing your conclusion, and if so, I am sincerely not trolling. I don't understand why anyone would believe these things, but I realize you're not alone in this kind of shorthand, describing what you believe wealthy people do with the money they've earned. If you really think about it, or read what the wealthiest people actually worry about and do with their earnings, you would see it is not this at all.
Maybe as a plot for a heist movie, but IRL this is not even close to what happens. Respectfully, I just think it's not well thought out as a basis for discussion.
Still hoping for a 2010 launch date... there's your problem right there.
If student loans were only available at schools that limited cost increases to the rate of inflation.
Businesses like universities with their own economics department on staff should know annual price increases of 5 - 7% can't last.
Was hoping for Apathy. Is it too late for a "Meh" option?
From TFA: "Made from 100% melted down chick magnets."
Ok, I might be extrapolating.
Ads for trucks often show warranty-voiding off road activities. It's not CGI, the trucks will DO the stuff in the ad, but you're probably SOT (Spot Outta Truck) when you break it that way.
Don't diss Hooters: A few years back, I had Hooters as a client, and ... they were tops in the industry.
I see what you did there.
Musk is determined to become the new Chuck Norris meme. Magnetosphere? Musk himself is magnetic enough for two planets.
"Hookers and blackjack" reference from Futurama, 10 points for Gryffindork.
the cheerleader playing ping-pong in those high heels is asking for a broken ankle.
Dude, the idea is that in heels she will miss every shot... thus having to walk slowly over to the ball, then bend over to carefully pick up said ball.
Clearly you did not think this all the way through. Bro card suspension: One Week.
TFA quotes a critic who said: "it's like bringing Hooters to [the] workplace."
The reporter omitted the rest of the quote, which might have provided some balance by explaining how there's also some kind of downside.
This shit is bread and butter for accountants, and I'm trained (among other things) as one.
Um, trained as "one" what? That sentence has several nouns, and from your humourless reply (note the Brit-friendly superfluous "U" !) I'm guessing it's a "shit". :-)
Relax, I'm only serious.
All this evolution of employment definitions will be what it will be, so who knows, maybe we'll keep trying to squeeze the future into the old paradigms. You know, even the IRS still has a hard time with this question after all these years. They have a list of criteria to determine if you are possibly an employee, and if you meet a number of those criteria, you might be considered an employee, but maybe not. It is not a fixed quantity like 4 out of 10, or a fixed set, and they struggle with it to this day. It is up to an IRS reviewer to render an opinion... it is so vague that the opinion can be appealed.
I am sorry to hear about your sick relative. I may think you're an Anonymous Cowardly fossil when it comes to the new economy, but I'm not heartless.
It was great of you to provide employee status to the guy who raked your yard occasionally. The vacations, insurance plan, benefits package, and so forth must have been an accounting nightma.... Oh, wait, you do that stuff yourself. BTW, how much was workers comp insurance for that raking dude? Not high risk work exactly, but outdoor work rates are costly. Or so I have heard. When eavesdropping on people in suits.
Nevertheless, are you correct about something after all, I'm dumb as a brick. Guilty as charged, ignorant and inexperienced in business, whatever that is. And just like Barbie used to say, I also think math is hard.
Oh, and sorry you don't like my bold highlights, some friends of mine read News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters (TM) on their phones (don't worry, the phone/Internet thing is a fad, it'll pass) and they say it really helps break up the monotony of a phone-screen page's worth of regular narrow print as they scan for the main points.
Intersting point, I think many of us think the issue is hiring people with soft core liberal arts degrees. As someone who has hired folk, and I know this is not the room for such admissions, I looked a little, um, sideways if someone chose to major in Graffiti Sciences on purpose.
... oh, wait.
Grumble grumble... Damned Applied Arts.
It may be untrue, but one of your first big independent decisions in life should indicate you can read, particularly read a chart showing the expected demand for new hires for a particular major.
Oh God, here come the flames, they burn, dammit, they burn. Say, who taught all these History of Matchsticks majors how to
Hey AC! I just saw you posting on the Ashley Madison password hack thread, good stuff!
Look up the recent poll taken by the current Uber drivers, a large many wanted to remain free and independent, so there's one metric on "many people want..." It is not salesman talk, it is a sense I get from all the people moving that direction. Trending topic and all that. I wish they had asked those Uber drivers if they had trust funds. Imagine that, all those trust fund kids driving for Uber. 'Bout damn time, some might say.
I am sorry about your worldview of people being so dumb. Really. I think you are mistaken. People are pretty bright, and getting brighter. I refer you to another search: A TED talk about the reasons for the dramatic rise in IQ scores over the last few generations. All those preferring to remain independent were also geniuses I guess, so genius trust fund kids driving for Uber. Imagine that, what an age of wonders we live in.
As to your final comment: if I am your employer, controlling your primary working hours and schedule and days off, I'm also limiting your other employment options. Unless you plan to work a second extra job secretly from within the cube I paid for, during the working hours I am paying for. That would be wrong. I forbid it. Unless you are a rising Scott Adams and will feature me in your Dilbert-esque comic strip. Line art portrait available if requested.
There. That wasn't so hard now was it?
One aside: How many of your employers allowed you unlimited time off, work 10 minutes a month, none, or 150 hours, at any time of day.. And never tell them ahead of time? Leave and come back six months later if you like, or never, and with no notice? Those dudes were awesome, why did you leave again? And Is the guy who rakes your leaves from time to time your employee?
Old mindset : Employee is someone I set hours for, provide all materials, put on a schedule, mandate production & performance requirements, allot specific amount of days off for vacation, days allowed for maternity, set days allowed for illness absence, provide workspace, and so forth.
New reality: A lot of gig jobs are on demand both ways; many people want the freedom to run themselves as a business, earn in a flexible / very few strings attached format, with an unlimited or unrestricted number of payment sources available.
It is not just Uber by a long shot, and a demographic shift is underway on many fronts. Uber is a highly visible symptom of a huge change.
Thanks for the civilized tone, btw; this is a highly charged subject for reasons I absolutely don't understand.
This, because, you know... nothing of importance is left to do in the world.
Somebody once said -- We ran out of real problems when we started buying a spray for 'static cling'
Waiting for the book release "Earth, Life, and Everything : Mission Accomplished"
...Verizon, and they easily keep under their 2Gb limit. ... [now] have gone over her limit, and how they are going to charge her $30 and this and that. After some investigation, turns out it was Win10 downloading.
And now M Night Shyamalan has optioned the movie version of Windows 10: The Bandwidth Rapist.
A root of this issue is the 18th, 19th and 20th century concepts of employees / employers and an outdated set of definitions. Like so many modern issues near and dear, we will have to reassess out fundamental assumptions about all kinds of things, this being just one.
If I set my own schedule, and take as much time off as I choose, am I under an employer's control?
Can robots marry humans, and why would they want to aside from Scarlett Johansson?
Do women have the right to choose... how their FICA retirement savings is invested?
That's a form of planning and most people are bad at that.
To be fair, it *is* on my to-do list.