what's the effect of <iframe src="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/<nobr>m<wbr></wbr></nobr> ozill a1.2/mozilla-macosX-1.2.smi.bin"/>? (or any other large file) There are plenty of ways a page can use up someone's bandwidth, so it's not really a good argument against prefetching.
Well, you're right, it's not really much different. It's also not much different from using the VB runtime libraries in a program, or the Microsoft Installer libraries, or any of the other examples that are out there. If you build a product based on the Mozilla Runtime, you just install it if the computer doesn't already have it. Also, like using IE, using Mozilla in an intranet type environment makes that drawback moot. Because you control the computers themselves, having one environment or another is no problem, and all you have to do is look at the merits for each. People use IE in these sorts of situations, and Mozilla provides a very good alternative.
Sure I think AOL sucks. However, the fact of the matter is that my grandparents wouldn't be be on the internet if it weren't for AOL. They wouldn't have been able to see pictures of their newest grandaughter just hours after she was born, since she lives in Germany. They wouldn't be able to talk to us via IM without aol, anything else would be too difficult to use. I imagine they'll get there eventually though.
You don't have to click and swipe. Just click once, and everything is selected. Of course, I've never had any trouble selecting text in there on the first try either, but 99% of the time you just click a single time and paste.
You forget that X-Rays are just a high frequency form of light, and are therefore 'made' of photons, which means that they can probably see into things as well. So yes, a baggage scanner where the bags pass into their chamber would probably not be much trouble, though obviously not something they'll shoot for right off the bat.
They aren't usually figured into the cost because the increase is so small. Ok, so you have to buy a $15 fan/heatsink instead of an $8 fan/heatsink. Big whoop. Most Athlons run maybe 20 degrees hotter than a K6-2, which translates into basically no extra cost when compared to the rating on your air conditioner. Air conditioners are rated by how many tons of ice it would take to provided the level of cooling desired. These come in half ton increments. That's alot of ice, and comparing it to the extra 20 degrees from that little bitty chip isn't worth bothering with.
Trust me, you've got bigger concerns than stuff like that.
In addition to 50 cent pieces, we also have dollar pieces, though in many cases they can be worth more than a dollar. They're nice and heavy, and feel like real money.
Certainly LambdaMOO, and the other MOOs I've visited are communities. MUDs even qualify, except that they tend to be focused more on killing monsters and gaining exp than being a community.
On the other hand, he may be correct in saying that there aren't any virtual communities on the web, but thats just a technicality.
Yup, thats pretty much how it works. the glasses generally work much the same way night vision glasses work, except that night vision glasses aplify visible light, whereas these would amplify light at frequencies that correspond to the laser you wanted to look at.
It wouln't be that bad. Sure, it would be noticable, but you've got to remeber that there's lag from the musicians to the audience as well, so you just adjust when you play each performer's stream so that they come out together. However, I don't think that's the goal here. I think the goal is to allow musicians to play with each other, not so much for a performance, but for the sake of playing together. In that case, the lag is a little more troublesome, but it wouldn't be any worse than the time it takes sound to go across a football field.
It may be possible to go with a TI-85 for such a thing, but you are better off going with an HP49 for three reasons. One, it has 2 megs of Flash Ram, so you can put in whatever (small) operating system you want. Second, it has a regular 9 pin serial port, not some weird thing that looks like a headphone jack. On top of that, the Saturn chip (clocked to 4Mhz) it runs off of is faster than the Z80 that the TI-85 uses. (it is kinda interesting however, that the Gameboy also used a Z80)
Obviously, if you've logged into a shell, you see a bash/csh/whatever prompt, not the HP48 prompt. It looks just like you had telnetted into the box, except that you set the display to 33x10 or so.
Yes, all you have to do is make a special adapter to go from the 4 pin serial port on the 48 to a regular D9, and from there to a modem! I've actually used it to log into a shell and check my email in pine, but for the best effect you have to set up the terminfo on the remote machine for the small screen and almost no support for VT-100 etc. Pretty simple stuff. A friend of mine actually spent a day on IRC that way. We couldn't tell except that he typed kinda slow.
PS: also note that it's been possible to do this (ie: the info has been available) on the HP48 for several years now. Those TIers are just playing catch-up!
I remeber when I was 8 and my Dad would telecommute from our basement with his 300 baud modem. Of course, it was over 5 years before he bought me my first 286...
This will never happen. Car shops make millions every year adjusting the timing belts that currently drive the camshaft for the valves. If a computer were to control the timing, it would never need adjusting. Not to metion the fact that this would put the companies that make those strobe lights that you use to check the timing out of bussiness.
On the other hand, this makes herf gunning (or worse) a car all the more fun.
Actually, I was surprised about a year ago to learn that many have actually made the jump to 'cyberspace' if you will, and now use telnet instead of a direct dialup. Yay, no more murderous long distance to play the best boards. A really good board I've played in recently was twgs.tradewars.org. Be careful, nearly everyone there was as old of a player as I am, and quite a bit better.
I'd like to say that TW2002 is probably the most enjoyable game I've ever played. Close seconds would go to BRE and Legend of the Red Dragon. Of course WinBolo is probably the best graphical internet game, but thats different.
would it be difficult to set up a layer which "listened" to your keyboard and performed on-the-fly translation when you hit one of those buttons?
It probably IS just a software driver that handles the URLs because all a keyboard transmits is a scancode. This scancode is translated to an appriate character code by the operating system. The translation layer would be in the form of a driver (guess which operating system its for). As a result, it'll probably be fairly easy to hack up.
Because of the way the keyboard 'protocol' (if you want to call it that) works, there is no real way to transmit a true URL from the keyboard, except by having it transmit the actual scancodes for the characters that make up the URL, but that wouldn't allow you to run a program from that button. It would allow to type that URL into a word processor pretty quickly though.
There is no such thing as 0 Hz. Think about it, a Hertz is one cycle per second, so zero Hz is the same as 0 cycles in one second, or 0/1. The wavelength (lambda) of such a wave would therefore be v/f (v=lambda*f). Since the speed of propagation of an electromagnetic wave is 300000000m/s (we're assuming that we're transmitting through a vacuum), we get 300000000/(0/1) = 300000000 / 0 = undefined, and so we can see that 0 Hz isn't possible. Instead, we approach 0 asymptotically, such that a wave with a frequency of 1Hz has a wavelength of x, a wave with a frequency of 2 has a wavelength of.5*x, and a wave with a frequency of.5 Hz has a wavelength of 2*x.
Yes, I realize that as you get higher frequencies, you get more and more line of sight only. This isn't a bad thing, however, as this is what makes the whole system work. Sure, low frequencies are great for a point to point link because it can travel great distances easily (think AM radio, I live in Florida and can occasionally pick up stuff from across the country), but in a packet switched environment like IP gives us, you don't need that, in fact, it's undesirable because there would be too much interference from other nodes on the network.
I also realize that to a certain degree (not sure to exactly what degree) higher frequency waves are capable of traveling less distance through air, but as I said, all that is required if you desire greater bandwidth are more receivers, or more powerful ones.
It isn't really a waste, because the spectrum is essentially infinite. (the only limits are practicality of the equipment, the spectrum is infinite in both directions) Currently there are as many as half a dozen different cellular networks in any given area. These could easily be replaced with a single system that could provide an IP based network with plenty of bandwidth for all the cellular calls, and the regular phone service, in addition to any new services that are developed.
I think that we should move almost entirely to wireless for a number of reasons. Amongst these are the convenience it would offer, as well as the savings on maintenance. Around here, the slightest rain will cause enough noise on the line to seriously degrade my connection (we're talking 19200 baud here). Cutting out the wires is one way to fix that. (the other is putting in completely new wires for cable modems, something my local cable company has declined to do thus far) Imagine all of the computers in your house are always on the network, even if you decide to pick it up and take it across town on a picnic. Makes wiring PDAs and stuff a whole lot easier as well. My father tells me you can get some very fancy receivers that use superconductor technology to achieve phenomenal results, which means tiny transmitters and vastly extended battery life, so that's essentially a non-issue as well.
Don't get me wrong or anything, I'm just as happy as the next guy that they released a linux version of their project, but I jsut feel that because they kept the best parts of the program hidden inside a library that even if someone chooses to exercise the right given them by the GPL, they won't really be doing much more than skinning. On the other hand, this is the area that will get the most work anyway, as people make various versions, some for X, some as a text gui, some for emacs and so on, but it'll never be more than just designing skins unless the library is GPL'd. I don't think it's as great a thing as it could be until then.
gutenberg.org and gutenberg.net are already registered to Project Gutenberg. They were registered three years ago in 1996. Perhaps someone could tell Hart how to hook www.gutenberg.org up to his website?
Yes, there are devices like this that do work. However, there is a device called the HP48GX that is easily programmed, has a large user base, and supports many devices, and can easily learn new ones. The HP48GX can also run a multitude of games and other programs. It can even do trig and calculus.
Oh, yea... its a calculator... But it works and is very cheap. Only $129.
Just a quick thing: What would you call teaching religion to children? For it not to be forced parents would have to teach the kids critical thinking skills and present their beliefs after they are capable of critical thinking. And how many parents do this? 1% ?
Other replies to this post mention indoctrination. Indoctrination is not automatically a bad thing. 1 : to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : TEACH Especially with really young kids (
thus the rise of fundamentalism. And I hope we can agree this is a bad thing.
As for fundamentalism, that is not a bad thing. Sure people use it that way to mean an extreme belief system where nothing new can be introduced, no new ideas are valid or whatever. All it means is that you belive in the basic core set of beliefs, and not nessecarily all the trappings that some people add to that core belief. As an example, Catholics have a lot of things like confessionals and "hail Mary" type things that are essentially rituals, and are never mentioned in the Bible, but aren't nessecarrily bad (might not do you any good, but won't really hurt either). Compared to a good Catholic, I'm fundamentalist because I don't believe any of those things are worth anything.
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what's the effect of <iframe src="http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/<nobr>m<wbr></wbr></nobr> ozill a1.2/mozilla-macosX-1.2.smi.bin"/>? (or any other large file) There are plenty of ways a page can use up someone's bandwidth, so it's not really a good argument against prefetching.
Well, you're right, it's not really much different. It's also not much different from using the VB runtime libraries in a program, or the Microsoft Installer libraries, or any of the other examples that are out there. If you build a product based on the Mozilla Runtime, you just install it if the computer doesn't already have it. Also, like using IE, using Mozilla in an intranet type environment makes that drawback moot. Because you control the computers themselves, having one environment or another is no problem, and all you have to do is look at the merits for each. People use IE in these sorts of situations, and Mozilla provides a very good alternative.
Sure I think AOL sucks. However, the fact of the matter is that my grandparents wouldn't be be on the internet if it weren't for AOL. They wouldn't have been able to see pictures of their newest grandaughter just hours after she was born, since she lives in Germany. They wouldn't be able to talk to us via IM without aol, anything else would be too difficult to use. I imagine they'll get there eventually though.
You don't have to click and swipe. Just click once, and everything is selected. Of course, I've never had any trouble selecting text in there on the first try either, but 99% of the time you just click a single time and paste.
You forget that X-Rays are just a high frequency form of light, and are therefore 'made' of photons, which means that they can probably see into things as well. So yes, a baggage scanner where the bags pass into their chamber would probably not be much trouble, though obviously not something they'll shoot for right off the bat.
They aren't usually figured into the cost because the increase is so small. Ok, so you have to buy a $15 fan/heatsink instead of an $8 fan/heatsink. Big whoop. Most Athlons run maybe 20 degrees hotter than a K6-2, which translates into basically no extra cost when compared to the rating on your air conditioner. Air conditioners are rated by how many tons of ice it would take to provided the level of cooling desired. These come in half ton increments. That's alot of ice, and comparing it to the extra 20 degrees from that little bitty chip isn't worth bothering with.
Trust me, you've got bigger concerns than stuff like that.
In addition to 50 cent pieces, we also have dollar pieces, though in many cases they can be worth more than a dollar. They're nice and heavy, and feel like real money.
Certainly LambdaMOO, and the other MOOs I've visited are communities. MUDs even qualify, except that they tend to be focused more on killing monsters and gaining exp than being a community.
On the other hand, he may be correct in saying that there aren't any virtual communities on the web, but thats just a technicality.
Yup, thats pretty much how it works. the glasses generally work much the same way night vision glasses work, except that night vision glasses aplify visible light, whereas these would amplify light at frequencies that correspond to the laser you wanted to look at.
It wouln't be that bad. Sure, it would be noticable, but you've got to remeber that there's lag from the musicians to the audience as well, so you just adjust when you play each performer's stream so that they come out together. However, I don't think that's the goal here. I think the goal is to allow musicians to play with each other, not so much for a performance, but for the sake of playing together. In that case, the lag is a little more troublesome, but it wouldn't be any worse than the time it takes sound to go across a football field.
It may be possible to go with a TI-85 for such a thing, but you are better off going with an HP49 for three reasons. One, it has 2 megs of Flash Ram, so you can put in whatever (small) operating system you want. Second, it has a regular 9 pin serial port, not some weird thing that looks like a headphone jack. On top of that, the Saturn chip (clocked to 4Mhz) it runs off of is faster than the Z80 that the TI-85 uses. (it is kinda interesting however, that the Gameboy also used a Z80)
Obviously, if you've logged into a shell, you see a bash/csh/whatever prompt, not the HP48 prompt. It looks just like you had telnetted into the box, except that you set the display to 33x10 or so.
Yes, all you have to do is make a special adapter to go from the 4 pin serial port on the 48 to a regular D9, and from there to a modem! I've actually used it to log into a shell and check my email in pine, but for the best effect you have to set up the terminfo on the remote machine for the small screen and almost no support for VT-100 etc. Pretty simple stuff. A friend of mine actually spent a day on IRC that way. We couldn't tell except that he typed kinda slow.
is a good place to get a terminal emulator, and http://www.hpcalc.org/docs/faq/ 48faq-12.html#ss12.2 is a good place to start for information about the adapter you need.
PS: also note that it's been possible to do this (ie: the info has been available) on the HP48 for several years now. Those TIers are just playing catch-up!
I remeber when I was 8 and my Dad would telecommute from our basement with his 300 baud modem. Of course, it was over 5 years before he bought me my first 286...
This will never happen. Car shops make millions every year adjusting the timing belts that currently drive the camshaft for the valves. If a computer were to control the timing, it would never need adjusting. Not to metion the fact that this would put the companies that make those strobe lights that you use to check the timing out of bussiness.
On the other hand, this makes herf gunning (or worse) a car all the more fun.
Daniel
Actually, I was surprised about a year ago to learn that many have actually made the jump to 'cyberspace' if you will, and now use telnet instead of a direct dialup. Yay, no more murderous long distance to play the best boards. A really good board I've played in recently was twgs.tradewars.org. Be careful, nearly everyone there was as old of a player as I am, and quite a bit better.
I'd like to say that TW2002 is probably the most enjoyable game I've ever played. Close seconds would go to BRE and Legend of the Red Dragon. Of course WinBolo is probably the best graphical internet game, but thats different.
Daniel
would it be difficult to set up a layer which "listened" to your keyboard and performed on-the-fly translation when you hit one of those buttons?
It probably IS just a software driver that handles the URLs because all a keyboard transmits is a scancode. This scancode is translated to an appriate character code by the operating system. The translation layer would be in the form of a driver (guess which operating system its for). As a result, it'll probably be fairly easy to hack up.
Because of the way the keyboard 'protocol' (if you want to call it that) works, there is no real way to transmit a true URL from the keyboard, except by having it transmit the actual scancodes for the characters that make up the URL, but that wouldn't allow you to run a program from that button. It would allow to type that URL into a word processor pretty quickly though.
There is no such thing as 0 Hz. Think about it, a Hertz is one cycle per second, so zero Hz is the same as 0 cycles in one second, or 0/1. The wavelength (lambda) of such a wave would therefore be v/f (v=lambda*f). Since the speed of propagation of an electromagnetic wave is 300000000m/s (we're assuming that we're transmitting through a vacuum), we get 300000000/(0/1) = 300000000 / 0 = undefined, and so we can see that 0 Hz isn't possible. Instead, we approach 0 asymptotically, such that a wave with a frequency of 1Hz has a wavelength of x, a wave with a frequency of 2 has a wavelength of .5*x, and a wave with a frequency of .5 Hz has a wavelength of 2*x.
Yes, I realize that as you get higher frequencies, you get more and more line of sight only. This isn't a bad thing, however, as this is what makes the whole system work. Sure, low frequencies are great for a point to point link because it can travel great distances easily (think AM radio, I live in Florida and can occasionally pick up stuff from across the country), but in a packet switched environment like IP gives us, you don't need that, in fact, it's undesirable because there would be too much interference from other nodes on the network.
I also realize that to a certain degree (not sure to exactly what degree) higher frequency waves are capable of traveling less distance through air, but as I said, all that is required if you desire greater bandwidth are more receivers, or more powerful ones.
It isn't really a waste, because the spectrum is essentially infinite. (the only limits are practicality of the equipment, the spectrum is infinite in both directions) Currently there are as many as half a dozen different cellular networks in any given area. These could easily be replaced with a single system that could provide an IP based network with plenty of bandwidth for all the cellular calls, and the regular phone service, in addition to any new services that are developed.
I think that we should move almost entirely to wireless for a number of reasons. Amongst these are the convenience it would offer, as well as the savings on maintenance. Around here, the slightest rain will cause enough noise on the line to seriously degrade my connection (we're talking 19200 baud here). Cutting out the wires is one way to fix that. (the other is putting in completely new wires for cable modems, something my local cable company has declined to do thus far) Imagine all of the computers in your house are always on the network, even if you decide to pick it up and take it across town on a picnic. Makes wiring PDAs and stuff a whole lot easier as well. My father tells me you can get some very fancy receivers that use superconductor technology to achieve phenomenal results, which means tiny transmitters and vastly extended battery life, so that's essentially a non-issue as well.
Don't get me wrong or anything, I'm just as happy as the next guy that they released a linux version of their project, but I jsut feel that because they kept the best parts of the program hidden inside a library that even if someone chooses to exercise the right given them by the GPL, they won't really be doing much more than skinning. On the other hand, this is the area that will get the most work anyway, as people make various versions, some for X, some as a text gui, some for emacs and so on, but it'll never be more than just designing skins unless the library is GPL'd. I don't think it's as great a thing as it could be until then.
Daniel
He did however predict vast oceans under the surface of ice on Europa, so perhaps all is not lost.
what about 19-13-1999? wouldn't that be an odd day as well? every digit is odd, is it not?
gutenberg.org and gutenberg.net are already registered to Project Gutenberg. They were registered three years ago in 1996. Perhaps someone could tell Hart how to hook www.gutenberg.org up to his website?
Daniel
PS: you can use Network Solutions Whois Service to find this information.
Yes, there are devices like this that do work. However, there is a device called the HP48GX that is easily programmed, has a large user base, and supports many devices, and can easily learn new ones. The HP48GX can also run a multitude of games and other programs. It can even do trig and calculus.
Oh, yea... its a calculator... But it works and is very cheap. Only $129.
Take a look at HP's site
Other replies to this post mention indoctrination. Indoctrination is not automatically a bad thing. 1 : to instruct especially in fundamentals or rudiments : TEACH Especially with really young kids (
As for fundamentalism, that is not a bad thing. Sure people use it that way to mean an extreme belief system where nothing new can be introduced, no new ideas are valid or whatever. All it means is that you belive in the basic core set of beliefs, and not nessecarily all the trappings that some people add to that core belief. As an example, Catholics have a lot of things like confessionals and "hail Mary" type things that are essentially rituals, and are never mentioned in the Bible, but aren't nessecarrily bad (might not do you any good, but won't really hurt either). Compared to a good Catholic, I'm fundamentalist because I don't believe any of those things are worth anything.