The FSF is publicly protesting this specific issue because this is an issue most people can understand. Palladium scares the hell out of me too, but unless the public first understands the concept of DRM, there's no way in hell they'll understand something like Palladium. Explaining why they can't copy their ITMS songs or their DVDs is much easier.
DRM is something in software or hardware that attempts to restrict something, usually copying. That said, There is no DRM on this website. PROTIP: highlight some of the text and/or images and then right-click. I'm rather certain one of the menu entries is named "copy".
The statement about verbatim copying is the opposite of a restriction. It is a blanket allowance to copy the page, provided you copy it in whole and preserve the copyright notice. It has nothing to do with DRM, and is the opposite of what DRM is designed to do.
Seriously, the more I read slashdot, the more I realize people have no reading comprehension whatsoever.
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I didn't realize consumers were happy about DRM. Can you please point me to the polls that show the average consumer knows what DRM is and is happy about it? I must have missed them.
Since Mr. Guillotine's implementation is the least painful and most user friendly, does it make sense to protest? Why not go after more draconian execution methods?
Um, sorry, but I don't think you understand the point here. The point the GP was making was that the schools do not have computers. The kids who have PSPs and Ipods probably have a computer at home. That doesn't help the school build a computer lab, though, especially when the parents of said kids vote against referendums and levies that would enable such a lab. Cheap, ~$100 computers would help the situation, though.
Of course, Dreamcast was murdered by... ARRRR PIRATES. I mean, it was just so damned easy to copy the games, at a time when broadband was becoming prevalent and CD burners where everywhere. Anyone who says it wasn't a factor in the DC's demise is living in a fantasy world.
This is a really great conspiracy theory, but I refuse to buy it without some empirical evidence.
You're forgetting one thing, and that is the fact that most of Nintendo's back catalog was not available for sale during the times they've tried to crack down on ROM sharing. With the Virtual Console, they have a much stronger legal standing, as they can claim "we're losing sales", just like the RIAA/MPAA/BSA. And if a ROM site has ad banners, they could claim the infringement was financially motivated, which allows for harsher penalties.
I find it odd that very few people make the piracy connection with all of Nintendo's recent moves, considering Nintendo's rabid hate of unauthorized emulation and such. The DS and Wii control schemes are obvious tipoffs, as well as the Cube's media format. All of them make it harder to emulate and copy games. Sure, you can claim that they weren't the primary reason, but I'm sure it was a very intentional side effect. Except for the Cube's disc format; that one is obvious.
And I noticed this after the latest WGA band-aid. It tries to gain access once per boot, and does not appear to be disable-able through msconfig. I've hit "deny" on the authorization popup so far, and have had no problems.
When you look at the distribution of wealth (or knowledge, or access, or whatever), you find that since the internet these gaps have grown bigger
Implying that the class divide is caused by the Internet is pretty silly. I'm also assuming you're talking about the US, as I don't think every country/region has experienced a similar distribution gap during the same period (1970s-present). So you might want to go back and re-form your argument, as its foundations are pretty shaky.
The difference is that the DMCA does not prevent you from expressing an opinion. If I write something critical of a person, an organization, or the government, the DMCA cannot legally be used to silence me. It can definitely be used to harass people (calling up my web host and claiming I have infringing material), but provided I have not actually violated copyright, nothing can be done.
Contrast this with China, where you can get thrown in jail for having a non-compliant opinion.
I second this. If a company can actually admit "hey, we were wrong here" and take action to correct the problem, I will definitely be a lot more inclined to think they might actually be human.
A three week public flame war? Incidents like this are why I have a hard time selling democracy as something other than a "high school utopia" system of government. Regardless of the reasons behind it, there are much better ways to handle it than public debate, let alone one that lasts three weeks.
If Debian was a "fundamentalist" distribution, they would not even have a section called "non-free". Of course, they are a little more picky than most about what's considered free vs. non-free (see: DFSG).
Nearly any time there is a choice between different things, one's choices are political. When you buy something, you are in effect giving support to its production. The same is true for software, even if you aren't "buying" it.
Hmm ok I'm kind of surprised that the anti-Debian folks haven't jumped on this already. So....anyway, I guess that I'll inject my opinion anyway
Personally, I'm really glad we do have Debian. They don't shy away from politics, and I think that's a good thing. Why? Well, the Free Software/Open Source ideals are inherently political things. To shut up and just allow stuff to happen is almost completely opposite to the movements themselves.
Sure, you can claim that discussions like this hamper development. Maybe they do (although I doubt it). You can claim Debian is behind the times compared to Ubuntu or Gentoo or even Slackware depending on what you value. But these things do need to be discussed.
It might seem like a cop-out, but the following quote really stands out in my mind: "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics; you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.". RMS said that. I think it sums up the situation rather well.
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The FSF is publicly protesting this specific issue because this is an issue most people can understand. Palladium scares the hell out of me too, but unless the public first understands the concept of DRM, there's no way in hell they'll understand something like Palladium. Explaining why they can't copy their ITMS songs or their DVDs is much easier.
DRM is something in software or hardware that attempts to restrict something, usually copying. That said, There is no DRM on this website. PROTIP: highlight some of the text and/or images and then right-click. I'm rather certain one of the menu entries is named "copy".
The statement about verbatim copying is the opposite of a restriction. It is a blanket allowance to copy the page, provided you copy it in whole and preserve the copyright notice. It has nothing to do with DRM, and is the opposite of what DRM is designed to do.
Seriously, the more I read slashdot, the more I realize people have no reading comprehension whatsoever.
I didn't realize consumers were happy about DRM. Can you please point me to the polls that show the average consumer knows what DRM is and is happy about it? I must have missed them.
Jobs didn't have to sell his soul to the devil, but he did. Should he be exempt from the consequences?
Also, the ipod was pretty successful before the ITMS.
Since Mr. Guillotine's implementation is the least painful and most user friendly, does it make sense to protest? Why not go after more draconian execution methods?
Um, sorry, but I don't think you understand the point here. The point the GP was making was that the schools do not have computers. The kids who have PSPs and Ipods probably have a computer at home. That doesn't help the school build a computer lab, though, especially when the parents of said kids vote against referendums and levies that would enable such a lab. Cheap, ~$100 computers would help the situation, though.
Of course, Dreamcast was murdered by ... ARRRR PIRATES. I mean, it was just so damned easy to copy the games, at a time when broadband was becoming prevalent and CD burners where everywhere. Anyone who says it wasn't a factor in the DC's demise is living in a fantasy world.
This is a really great conspiracy theory, but I refuse to buy it without some empirical evidence.
With the way you type, it makes your post scream "my brain is unpatched". Holy crap dude.
Sue for unsportsmanlike conduct. Or something.
hopefully the GC emulator will trick LAN-enabled games into running online
Didn't Nintendo hire the Warp Pipe guys...?
You're forgetting one thing, and that is the fact that most of Nintendo's back catalog was not available for sale during the times they've tried to crack down on ROM sharing. With the Virtual Console, they have a much stronger legal standing, as they can claim "we're losing sales", just like the RIAA/MPAA/BSA. And if a ROM site has ad banners, they could claim the infringement was financially motivated, which allows for harsher penalties.
I find it odd that very few people make the piracy connection with all of Nintendo's recent moves, considering Nintendo's rabid hate of unauthorized emulation and such. The DS and Wii control schemes are obvious tipoffs, as well as the Cube's media format. All of them make it harder to emulate and copy games. Sure, you can claim that they weren't the primary reason, but I'm sure it was a very intentional side effect. Except for the Cube's disc format; that one is obvious.
Pwned.
Man, I wish slashdot had an age requirement of at least 13 before allowing posting...
Um, a whole bunch of the raw channel capacity is sacrificed to avoid collisions. 802.11 uses CSMA to avoid this.
And I noticed this after the latest WGA band-aid. It tries to gain access once per boot, and does not appear to be disable-able through msconfig. I've hit "deny" on the authorization popup so far, and have had no problems.
You can get a prosthetic leg. You can't fix losing all your money.
Acting like there's only one possible outcome of a situation is stupid. Stop.
Implying that the class divide is caused by the Internet is pretty silly. I'm also assuming you're talking about the US, as I don't think every country/region has experienced a similar distribution gap during the same period (1970s-present). So you might want to go back and re-form your argument, as its foundations are pretty shaky.
He is wondering how retailers will collect the money from the kids. Not how the kids get the money.
Hello sentence comprehension, nice to see you today.
Newsflash: service personnel are not in the line of fire 24 hours a day.
The difference is that the DMCA does not prevent you from expressing an opinion. If I write something critical of a person, an organization, or the government, the DMCA cannot legally be used to silence me. It can definitely be used to harass people (calling up my web host and claiming I have infringing material), but provided I have not actually violated copyright, nothing can be done.
Contrast this with China, where you can get thrown in jail for having a non-compliant opinion.
I second this. If a company can actually admit "hey, we were wrong here" and take action to correct the problem, I will definitely be a lot more inclined to think they might actually be human.
I smell another Blizzard lawsuit...
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A three week public flame war? Incidents like this are why I have a hard time selling democracy as something other than a "high school utopia" system of government. Regardless of the reasons behind it, there are much better ways to handle it than public debate, let alone one that lasts three weeks.
If Debian was a "fundamentalist" distribution, they would not even have a section called "non-free". Of course, they are a little more picky than most about what's considered free vs. non-free (see: DFSG).
Nearly any time there is a choice between different things, one's choices are political. When you buy something, you are in effect giving support to its production. The same is true for software, even if you aren't "buying" it.
Hmm ok I'm kind of surprised that the anti-Debian folks haven't jumped on this already. So....anyway, I guess that I'll inject my opinion anyway
Personally, I'm really glad we do have Debian. They don't shy away from politics, and I think that's a good thing. Why? Well, the Free Software/Open Source ideals are inherently political things. To shut up and just allow stuff to happen is almost completely opposite to the movements themselves.
Sure, you can claim that discussions like this hamper development. Maybe they do (although I doubt it). You can claim Debian is behind the times compared to Ubuntu or Gentoo or even Slackware depending on what you value. But these things do need to be discussed.
It might seem like a cop-out, but the following quote really stands out in my mind: "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics; you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.". RMS said that. I think it sums up the situation rather well.