Perhaps, but it doesn't have to be developed during k-12 fed funded time. Learn the skills first. Get your social networking done in college. I'm not saying it's worthless, I'm saying it's unnecessary. Those things can be developed pretty rapidly. You won't be a social reject in K-12 without them. Oh, and uh... I've worked in the private sector. I don't think I'd win any points with any of my past bosses sharing sticky keyboard stories with them.
Federally funded ones, perhaps. I did read the article, and there are far less fed funded libraries than schools even in heavily mil. populated areas. And if you think the focus is on libraries you're high.
Somehow I find it hard to believe that any kids that hang out in library after school to read/. are having trouble with algebra.
That was a response to someone else's comment and/. wasn't necessarily meant as an examle and certainly not as THE prime example. Non Sequitur.
Maybe, just maybe, social networking online might be an important part of being prepared for life in the information age.
Right because without myspace, game forums, mmogs, IMs, etc., they would be totally unprepared? Bullshit. Maybe just, maybe, you're afraid of losing your AIM at school.
Wow, last time I checked public schools computers weren't there to make up for the fact that some people are without home computers. I thought there were there to be educational tools. The addage was "a computer in every classrom," not "surf pr0n at sch00l, hehe rox0r, rofl." If you want to use a computer and you don't have one, go to the library, like people who arent of school age. And unless your doing a report on the specific topic of a/. story, no, I don't think it IS necessary to read it and post replies while you should be doing your damn algebra. I don't pay my damn taxes so some dipshit kid can surf game forums, or myspace, when he should be cracking a book and getting those grades up. BTW, I'm a network administrator for a school district in Kitsap County WA.(HUGE Navy area, and heavily subsidized). I know what these kids are doing with your tax money. And myspace is the least of it.
So let's fund it for... say 100 million dollars. That's a tiny fraction of the US budget, and if it pays off... woo-hoo... but again, don't disconnect from APS just yet.
I agree wholeheartedly... All I was pointing out is that even with their healthy skepticism, and overall negative final conclusion, there now seems to be optimism whereas before there was ridicule. That's a huge step forward for the advancement of this technology if it is determined to be viable.
Using the excerpt you posted:
Two-thirds of the reviewers commenting on Charge Element 1 did not feel the evidence was conclusive for low energy nuclear reactions, one found the evidence convincing, and the remainder indicated they were somewhat convinced. Many reviewers noted that poor experiment design, documentation, background control and other similar issues hampered the understanding and interpretation of the results presented.
Even here, they are all optimistic, and found the evidence somewhat convincing. In fact NONE of the reviewers stated that they were completely unconvinced. All but one was "somewhat convinced" and one was "convinced." Two thirds of them said that the evidence was not conclusive, and one third either thought it was conclusive or did not given to state an opinion, or stake their reputation, one way or the other on it. Given the overall convincing nature(in their own words) of the data, although not conclusive, one third would seem to be leaning towards a confirmation of the data.
Scientists (good ones anyway) have to maintain a healthy level of skepticism, especially when dealing with new physical phenomenon, whether applied or theoretical. What you see above is as close to a "looks promising" as these guys will ever get before the phenomenon is confirmed outright.
At any rate, I just find it interesting. I don't know that it will ever come to fruition or not, and it wouldn't bother me if it didn't. I don't think the excess heat can be easily put to use without enough loss as to make it nominal anyway. Unless of course it's improved dramatically.
What is promising however are other forms of "bench top fusion" that are happening. Hot fusion is much more promising. Check out focus fusion.
There are lots of technologies that are more promising than cold fusion. Betavoltaic cells are incredibly cool. They will never be mass market, but could easily be set up to power the grid, with no waste. In fact, they can use the waste to make the cells. To me that's pretty beneficial. No more hydrocarbon fuel dependence from the grid, and it would be environmentally beneficial in the aspect that it would cause us to clean up a bit in order to make it work.
I take it you haven't read up on the Pons and Fleichmann "fiasco" lately have you? Not only has it been re-reviewed, but funding for research, although limited, has been approved by the DOE based on the second review's results. The cold fusion reigns have been taken over by others in their place, since they were so utterly shunned, and ridiculed by the scientific establishment. Now the question is not whether or not excess heat has been generated. But whether or not it's a product of fusion, and whether or not the methods of measuring the excess heat are accurate. Most people on the panel agree that it is, due to the presence of tritium ash, a by-product of fusion. They disagree on the amounts of excess heat, and the methods of testing, and they are not going full bore with it. But it's not completely dismissed out of hand any longer.
Not to mention it has been replicated many, many times, by many researchers in many labs at this point. Don't get me wrong, the findings were still negative(or should I say skeptical), which they should be, but they are now receiving funding. And Stanley Pons and Martin Fleichmann, are now back in the fusion game. It's been 20 years since the initial review, and people kept tinkering, and working with it. The DOE now thinks that it's now worth taking a look at. I wonder where it will be in another 20 years, now that they have funding for "Higly focused research efforts". And now that they are not considered paraihs for even researching it.
From the DOE report:
The nearly unanimous opinion of the reviewers was that funding agencies should entertain individual,
well-designed proposals for experiments that address specific scientific issues relevant to the question of
whether or not there is anomalous energy production in Pd/D systems, or whether or not D-D fusion
reactions occur at energies on the order of a few eV. These proposals should meet accepted scientific
standards, and undergo the rigors of peer review. No reviewer recommended a focused federally funded
program for low energy nuclear reactions.
Reviewers identified two areas where additional research could address specific issues. One is the
investigation of the properties of deuterated metals including possible effects of alloying and
dislocations. These studies should take advantage of the modern tools for material characterization. A
second area of investigation is the use of state-of-the-art apparatus and techniques to search for fusion
events in thin deuterated foils. Several reviewers specifically stated that more experiments similar in
nature to those that have been carried out for the past fifteen years are unlikely to advance knowledge in
this area.
You can check it out for yourself at www.newenergytimes.com.. BTW if you need to look any further, only a handful of researchers call it "cold fusion", it's more common term lately has been LENR, or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. There are other sites, but you'll have to sift through the cooks to find them. Personally I don't see any reason why it's not possible, it doesn't break any laws of physics, like a lot of those self running magnet motors and PM devices people are always reporting.
The theory seems reasonable. Nothing insanely out of wack, nothing that proposes tapping ether or some esoteric bizarre unknown energy force.
And the TI99-4/a with speech synth. Even had one of those old modems that you actually set your ma bell phone in, and dialed from the phone with. LOL. Good times, Good times. Unfortunately at the time (83?), my school still did their grading on paper. No hacking for me:(, In fact, not much of anything to really do at that time with a modem. I don't even remember what I used it for. Or if I used it at all. I think there was some crappy TI BBS you could call (long distance charges apply). But that's about it. I wrote my first program in BASIC on that piece of crap. It was a lame little text adventure program. But it had maps of rooms you were in and stuff. Sort of like hunt the wumpus. I hated that damn wumpus.
Hmm, Seems to me lots of operating systems use a pretty good chunk of processing power. Even ones with small footprints. I would blame laziness on the part of the developer rather than blaming microsoft at every farking chance. Hell for all we know, he's running qnx, built the prototype on a pc, and just rushed to development without bothering to have custom hardware built, and only using a very tiny fraction of his processing power. And "PENTIUM" could mean a recycled pentium 75, or 100, in that case, I'd give him kudos.
I seriously doubt you'd be forced to use bitlocker. And if not, it's not an issue. The only people who would probably use it, are people with extremely sensitive data, and in that case, they probably wouldn't be dual booting anyway.
In fact, it won't even be on all of various versions of vista (say that ten times fast), according to this article.
And I quote "British government's Home Office was "in talks with Microsoft" over BitLocker Drive Encryption, a technology in some, though not all, of the Vista versions planned for later this year."
And according to this article it's only slated for the enterprise version.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know, I just like to see the little guy rise up and deliver an asswhoopin once in a while. I guess that's romantic, I cried when I saw "Rudy". Whoa, look at me. Hopeless romantic here. Never noticed that before. What are you a psychologist or something. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
And who modded me down as "overrated" when I wasn't even "rated" yet. Are you modding me down because amd is overrated?
Wait, since I'm a fan of the underdog by default, does this mean I have to start cheering for intel? Because it still doesn't feel right. Wait, lemme check....
True, in fact it's a kind of catch-22. Dirty water is more conductive than clean water. Using an EHD drive to pump the water is ingenious, but if the water's too clean it won't efficiently pump through the channels, if it's even slightly dirty, there will be mineral build up which will block the channels and fry your chip. Perhaps some other electrolytic fluid will work better, but I can't think of any with better thermal conductivity that won't boil at room temperatures. Good idea though. Using a refrigerant and the temperature gradient in the case would probably be a better idea. The problem with that however, is you'd be forced to have your case at a specific orientation in relation to the cooling device. There would have to be different versions for stand up cases, and rack mount or desktop cases.
Yes, anyone technically savvy can probably crack this. However, the tons of people running pirated windows, that got installed by their friend, or son, or *gasp* local fly-by-night computer shop, will not be able to. Those are the people Microsoft is going after, the unwashed masses. The victims.
Although it's crappy, I see nothing wrong with a company refusing to provide the same benefits to people running pirated versions of their software, as they do to people running legitimate versions.
Hopefully some of those victims will know where the blame really lies.... On the Jerks who installed it for them in the first place.
Yeah, wheelchairs aren't a pain in the ass to transport, and they fit in to small spaces soooooo easily.
Anything that will give a person who is disabled physically more independence, and the ability to go places people with functioning legs go, will sell. Currently, people without the use of their legs, have plan with wheelchair accessibility in mind, they have to drive special cars, live in special houses, and can't even hang out at the beach, unless they can afford uber expensive power assisted all terrain wheelchairs. And unless you live in a big city. Public restrooms would be hell, unfortunately there are far too few wheelchair accessible restrooms. Any legs, robotic or not, will help these people immensely.
The expensive nature of them will be far more prohibitive to their sales, than the fact that they are bulky. Bulk can be reduced. Hopefully people will be able to get assistance with buying them once they are fully developed. No more wheelchair ramps, no more wheelchair bathroom stalls, no more radically modified construction on their homes, no more radically modified cars. Hell if technology keeps advancing the way it has been, perhaps they'll even be able to dance, or play a sport.
"Every older and some younger Slashdotters have been subject to that tingling feeling in your wrist after countless hours of hacking, cracking, or playing CS
Slashdot Mirror
Perhaps, but it doesn't have to be developed during k-12 fed funded time. Learn the skills first. Get your social networking done in college. I'm not saying it's worthless, I'm saying it's unnecessary. Those things can be developed pretty rapidly. You won't be a social reject in K-12 without them. Oh, and uh... I've worked in the private sector. I don't think I'd win any points with any of my past bosses sharing sticky keyboard stories with them.
RTFA this proposed law includes public libraries.
/. are having trouble with algebra.
/. wasn't necessarily meant as an examle and certainly not as THE prime example. Non Sequitur.
Federally funded ones, perhaps. I did read the article, and there are far less fed funded libraries than schools even in heavily mil. populated areas. And if you think the focus is on libraries you're high.
Somehow I find it hard to believe that any kids that hang out in library after school to read
That was a response to someone else's comment and
Maybe, just maybe, social networking online might be an important part of being prepared for life in the information age.
Right because without myspace, game forums, mmogs, IMs, etc., they would be totally unprepared? Bullshit. Maybe just, maybe, you're afraid of losing your AIM at school.
Wow, last time I checked public schools computers weren't there to make up for the fact that some people are without home computers. I thought there were there to be educational tools. The addage was "a computer in every classrom," not "surf pr0n at sch00l, hehe rox0r, rofl." If you want to use a computer and you don't have one, go to the library, like people who arent of school age. And unless your doing a report on the specific topic of a /. story, no, I don't think it IS necessary to read it and post replies while you should be doing your damn algebra. I don't pay my damn taxes so some dipshit kid can surf game forums, or myspace, when he should be cracking a book and getting those grades up. BTW, I'm a network administrator for a school district in Kitsap County WA.(HUGE Navy area, and heavily subsidized). I know what these kids are doing with your tax money. And myspace is the least of it.
Yeah, I'm not seeing that. Freedom of speech isn't about the right to waste tax dollars IMing with your l337 gamz0ring skillz with your WOW buddies..
So let's fund it for... say 100 million dollars. That's a tiny fraction of the US budget, and if it pays off... woo-hoo... but again, don't disconnect from APS just yet.
I agree wholeheartedly... All I was pointing out is that even with their healthy skepticism, and overall negative final conclusion, there now seems to be optimism whereas before there was ridicule. That's a huge step forward for the advancement of this technology if it is determined to be viable.
Using the excerpt you posted: Two-thirds of the reviewers commenting on Charge Element 1 did not feel the evidence was conclusive for low energy nuclear reactions, one found the evidence convincing, and the remainder indicated they were somewhat convinced. Many reviewers noted that poor experiment design, documentation, background control and other similar issues hampered the understanding and interpretation of the results presented.
Even here, they are all optimistic, and found the evidence somewhat convincing. In fact NONE of the reviewers stated that they were completely unconvinced. All but one was "somewhat convinced" and one was "convinced." Two thirds of them said that the evidence was not conclusive, and one third either thought it was conclusive or did not given to state an opinion, or stake their reputation, one way or the other on it. Given the overall convincing nature(in their own words) of the data, although not conclusive, one third would seem to be leaning towards a confirmation of the data.
Scientists (good ones anyway) have to maintain a healthy level of skepticism, especially when dealing with new physical phenomenon, whether applied or theoretical. What you see above is as close to a "looks promising" as these guys will ever get before the phenomenon is confirmed outright.
At any rate, I just find it interesting. I don't know that it will ever come to fruition or not, and it wouldn't bother me if it didn't. I don't think the excess heat can be easily put to use without enough loss as to make it nominal anyway. Unless of course it's improved dramatically.
What is promising however are other forms of "bench top fusion" that are happening. Hot fusion is much more promising. Check out focus fusion.
There are lots of technologies that are more promising than cold fusion. Betavoltaic cells are incredibly cool. They will never be mass market, but could easily be set up to power the grid, with no waste. In fact, they can use the waste to make the cells. To me that's pretty beneficial. No more hydrocarbon fuel dependence from the grid, and it would be environmentally beneficial in the aspect that it would cause us to clean up a bit in order to make it work.
I take it you haven't read up on the Pons and Fleichmann "fiasco" lately have you? Not only has it been re-reviewed, but funding for research, although limited, has been approved by the DOE based on the second review's results. The cold fusion reigns have been taken over by others in their place, since they were so utterly shunned, and ridiculed by the scientific establishment. Now the question is not whether or not excess heat has been generated. But whether or not it's a product of fusion, and whether or not the methods of measuring the excess heat are accurate. Most people on the panel agree that it is, due to the presence of tritium ash, a by-product of fusion. They disagree on the amounts of excess heat, and the methods of testing, and they are not going full bore with it. But it's not completely dismissed out of hand any longer.
Not to mention it has been replicated many, many times, by many researchers in many labs at this point. Don't get me wrong, the findings were still negative(or should I say skeptical), which they should be, but they are now receiving funding. And Stanley Pons and Martin Fleichmann, are now back in the fusion game. It's been 20 years since the initial review, and people kept tinkering, and working with it. The DOE now thinks that it's now worth taking a look at. I wonder where it will be in another 20 years, now that they have funding for "Higly focused research efforts". And now that they are not considered paraihs for even researching it.
From the DOE report: The nearly unanimous opinion of the reviewers was that funding agencies should entertain individual, well-designed proposals for experiments that address specific scientific issues relevant to the question of whether or not there is anomalous energy production in Pd/D systems, or whether or not D-D fusion reactions occur at energies on the order of a few eV. These proposals should meet accepted scientific standards, and undergo the rigors of peer review. No reviewer recommended a focused federally funded program for low energy nuclear reactions. Reviewers identified two areas where additional research could address specific issues. One is the investigation of the properties of deuterated metals including possible effects of alloying and dislocations. These studies should take advantage of the modern tools for material characterization. A second area of investigation is the use of state-of-the-art apparatus and techniques to search for fusion events in thin deuterated foils. Several reviewers specifically stated that more experiments similar in nature to those that have been carried out for the past fifteen years are unlikely to advance knowledge in this area.
You can check it out for yourself at www.newenergytimes.com.. BTW if you need to look any further, only a handful of researchers call it "cold fusion", it's more common term lately has been LENR, or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. There are other sites, but you'll have to sift through the cooks to find them. Personally I don't see any reason why it's not possible, it doesn't break any laws of physics, like a lot of those self running magnet motors and PM devices people are always reporting. The theory seems reasonable. Nothing insanely out of wack, nothing that proposes tapping ether or some esoteric bizarre unknown energy force.
Not similar, that is what it is. DNS poisoning redirects traffic to , blackhole attacks redirect to null.
If it was BO you can hijack their webcam.
Facias ipse quod faciamus suades.
Quantum Mechanics.... very large scale.....
Isn't that an oxymoron?
You're right, I think what the article is saying, with as many words as possible is, "we got nothing".
Chicks like guys with skills...
Numbchuck skills, computer hacking skills....
And the TI99-4/a with speech synth. Even had one of those old modems that you actually set your ma bell phone in, and dialed from the phone with. LOL. Good times, Good times. Unfortunately at the time (83?), my school still did their grading on paper. No hacking for me :(, In fact, not much of anything to really do at that time with a modem. I don't even remember what I used it for. Or if I used it at all. I think there was some crappy TI BBS you could call (long distance charges apply). But that's about it. I wrote my first program in BASIC on that piece of crap. It was a lame little text adventure program. But it had maps of rooms you were in and stuff. Sort of like hunt the wumpus. I hated that damn wumpus.
My favorite game on the TI? PARSEC! Yeah baby.
Hmm, Seems to me lots of operating systems use a pretty good chunk of processing power. Even ones with small footprints. I would blame laziness on the part of the developer rather than blaming microsoft at every farking chance. Hell for all we know, he's running qnx, built the prototype on a pc, and just rushed to development without bothering to have custom hardware built, and only using a very tiny fraction of his processing power. And "PENTIUM" could mean a recycled pentium 75, or 100, in that case, I'd give him kudos.
I seriously doubt you'd be forced to use bitlocker. And if not, it's not an issue. The only people who would probably use it, are people with extremely sensitive data, and in that case, they probably wouldn't be dual booting anyway.
In fact, it won't even be on all of various versions of vista (say that ten times fast), according to this article.
And I quote "British government's Home Office was "in talks with Microsoft" over BitLocker Drive Encryption, a technology in some, though not all, of the Vista versions planned for later this year."
And according to this article it's only slated for the enterprise version.
Yeah, I guess, I don't know, I just like to see the little guy rise up and deliver an asswhoopin once in a while. I guess that's romantic, I cried when I saw "Rudy". Whoa, look at me. Hopeless romantic here. Never noticed that before. What are you a psychologist or something. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
And who modded me down as "overrated" when I wasn't even "rated" yet. Are you modding me down because amd is overrated?
Wait, since I'm a fan of the underdog by default, does this mean I have to start cheering for intel? Because it still doesn't feel right. Wait, lemme check....
GO INTEL!
Nope, I feel dirty. Going to shower now.
True, in fact it's a kind of catch-22. Dirty water is more conductive than clean water. Using an EHD drive to pump the water is ingenious, but if the water's too clean it won't efficiently pump through the channels, if it's even slightly dirty, there will be mineral build up which will block the channels and fry your chip. Perhaps some other electrolytic fluid will work better, but I can't think of any with better thermal conductivity that won't boil at room temperatures. Good idea though. Using a refrigerant and the temperature gradient in the case would probably be a better idea. The problem with that however, is you'd be forced to have your case at a specific orientation in relation to the cooling device. There would have to be different versions for stand up cases, and rack mount or desktop cases.
Yes, anyone technically savvy can probably crack this. However, the tons of people running pirated windows, that got installed by their friend, or son, or *gasp* local fly-by-night computer shop, will not be able to. Those are the people Microsoft is going after, the unwashed masses. The victims.
Although it's crappy, I see nothing wrong with a company refusing to provide the same benefits to people running pirated versions of their software, as they do to people running legitimate versions.
Hopefully some of those victims will know where the blame really lies.... On the Jerks who installed it for them in the first place.
I wish I had mod points for this guy. Very good comments. I think this guy deserves and "insightful" tag, at least.
Ok, before anyone berates me, I read the article but didn't look at the pic.
The one in the pic is rediculous in the light of many of the ones already developed that have FAR more potential.
Like these, or these
Because, normal people are constantly doing complex tasks with their hands when climbing stairs?
Perhaps not the ones in the article, but there are many better variations.
Like these, or these
Yeah, wheelchairs aren't a pain in the ass to transport, and they fit in to small spaces soooooo easily.
Anything that will give a person who is disabled physically more independence, and the ability to go places people with functioning legs go, will sell. Currently, people without the use of their legs, have plan with wheelchair accessibility in mind, they have to drive special cars, live in special houses, and can't even hang out at the beach, unless they can afford uber expensive power assisted all terrain wheelchairs. And unless you live in a big city. Public restrooms would be hell, unfortunately there are far too few wheelchair accessible restrooms. Any legs, robotic or not, will help these people immensely.
The expensive nature of them will be far more prohibitive to their sales, than the fact that they are bulky. Bulk can be reduced. Hopefully people will be able to get assistance with buying them once they are fully developed. No more wheelchair ramps, no more wheelchair bathroom stalls, no more radically modified construction on their homes, no more radically modified cars. Hell if technology keeps advancing the way it has been, perhaps they'll even be able to dance, or play a sport.
"Every older and some younger Slashdotters have been subject to that tingling feeling in your wrist after countless hours of hacking, cracking, or playing CS
/obvious.
Or surfing porn