Sounds like the only game-based movie that I've heard of that stuck to the plot.
I disagree with the article completely. I think the problem with game based movies is that they don't stick to the plot points that made the game interesting in the first place.
Take doom for example, They changed it from scientists finding an ancient civilization on mars, studying their culture, and religion, and accidentally opening a gateway to hell, to finding an ancient civilization on mars, back engineering their technology, and creating monsters via genetic engineering. A sort of a resident evil on mars, However they kept all the references to the gates of hell opening, they didn't ditch the pentagrams, or any of that stuff. etc.
The reason hollywood can't make a decent game movie is identical to the reason they can't really make any movies that are very good anymore. They have completely lost touch with what people want.
The main flaw with the article is that if people felt that watching game movies was like looking over someone's shoulder in the arcade, they wouldn't go to see them. There wouldn't have been enough people who have seen it, to come back with a "well that sucked verdict" in the first place. People want to see them. They want to see or perhaps eveng get deeper into the plot line of their favorite game.
The sad truth is that Hollywood is out of ideas, out of touch with society, and couldn't write a decent script even if they had ideas and were in touch. They check popularity ratings of games and books, and base movies off of them. Most of the time, wrecking what attracted people to the game or movie in the first place.
There are a few exceptions to the rule, but too few and far between. Gone are the days when guys would get an inspiration, pitch it, focus group it, get an awesome writing team on it, and give the people something that entertained them, and all that for a reasonable amount of money.
I agree, with so many devices with built in wireless g adapters, it would be foolhardy to buy anything until after a standard is ratified and proven to be flawlessly backward compatible.
As much of a fan as I am of the new hotness, I don't think I'll be giving up old and busted anytime soon in this respect. At least not in my place of business.
It's already too easy for the IT guy to catch hell for stuff in the office without manufacturers delivering unpolished products. Problem is with this kind of thing, is when an order comes down from higher up to implement the new hotness without regards to it's standards compliance, your kinda screwed. I could give significantly less than one shit about the gaming considerations. In my opinion it's downright irresponsible to release products at this point. I Just hope that the devices that are being released can be brought into standards compliance once it has been ratified, by a firmware update.
"Let's beta test this product, but make people pay for it" is what this amounts to..
No, actually I'm saying that I was running firefox, with google preview, and the google toolbar with pagerank, and let me see, I think I had a weather extension that loaded in the status bar. I may have had one more in there, but I don't remember for sure, as it's been a while since I ran it.
In IE I was running stumble upon, and the new google toolbar beta, which I love due to it's bookmarks feature.
At any rate, it was not an even comparison, and I did make that disclaimer. Thank you for taking note of it..
I'm sorry if I offended you by being honest about my browsing experiences, next time I'll buy three brand new machines, install windows on them patch em up, then put naked versions of firefox,ie7 and opera on them, compare the features of the "pristine" browsers, and post benchmarks of the entire process.... or I could leave that up to someone who's job it is to do so, and have a beer instead....
Hmm, I just did the acid2 test in both MSIE 7 and Firefox. NEITHER passed it. MS's background is red with a vague happy face shape over on the left side, and although firefox doesn't have the background the image is still all discombobulated.
I've been running beta2 for months now and it actually seems to work better than the previous versions by a long shot. Not nearly as many problems with loading content that has traditionally given IE problems.
The tabbed browsing has a few advantages over firefox's and a few features are yet missing that firefox's tabbed browsing had from it's earliest incarnation. Of course beta 1 of firefox was based off of a heavily tested and proven codebase, and much of IE7 has been a complete rewrite.
It would be nice to right click and "open in new tab" now and then, a feature that is glaringly absent. However I do like the new layout, it took me a while to get used to the fact that the standard button layout was gone, and there was nothing I could do about it, but once I got used to it, it worked well, probably more efficient than my previous surfing experiences. However, there should be an option to use the standard web controls that people have used since the stone age of the world wide web, as my wife, being a neophyte, hates it, and refuses to get used to it. And she cant use firefox on her web applications her work provides because firefox doesn't like cold fusion, so she sort of has to. It would be nice if she could use the familiar interface.
It also seems to load pages much faster than previous versions of IE, and dare I say it *gasp* firefox. One of the first things I tested, out of curiosity. Of course these tests were not scientifically conducted, and results can changed based on connection, and host bandwidth, client bandwidth, etc. etc.
but it's competetive in that area.
Prior to downloading the beta, I was getting sick of firefox, and hadn't been having a very good experience with it for a while. Probably because of an extension I loaded or something else completely unrelated to the sacred browser itself, but it seemed to be a resource hog. I have heard there were fixes, and I applied them, but my browsing experience continued to suck. And I was considering buying opera. I figured I'd try ie7 before I went that route since I was considering a change anyway, and so far, nothing has been bad enough to chase me off. I'll continue testing it. However I'll probably still buy opera if they don't add a few features and refine a few they don't already have.
And to the guys at MS, why not make it acid2 compliant? While your at the drawing board, might as well just make the necessary adjustments. One less thing to be critisized over at least, and I doubt it would require huge amounts of sweeping changes.
I notice that neither of you thus far, have provided sources for your hanford information. I heard of the employee compensation program, but nothing of animal benefits or problems within the reserve. There are watchdog groups that did a lot of complaining early on, but as of late most of them are quiet. There's a lot of information on hanfords enrichment operations, and the waste produced from energy production, but almost nothing of the waste from their bomb making operations.
Goodbye Africa, Russians will soon be making a mint selling exotic hunting trips to bag 4 eyed bears, and boars with an arrays of tusks down thier backs. Oh, and Fishing trips for 3 eyed trout of springfield fame!
I cant wait till they start selling mutant bear rugs on ebay.
WinAMD, or even better, linAMD, just doesn't have the same ring to it as wintel.
Oh well, never too fond of either companies business practices.
I don't know which hi-tech corporate quarrel I like best, there are so many that evoke such varied emotional responses.
AMD vs. Intel, great I've always been a fan of the underdog, but AMD has had their day in the sun coming for a long time.
I do however find it ironic that Microsoft and Intel are all slings and arrows these days.. As both companies still depend on each-other to a degree.
One one hand it's Better than a soap opera, like 2 drunk hillbilly brothers shooting at each-ther over who gets the last lucky lager. Or ex-lovers shooting the evil eye at eachother from across the technical landscape. Or suicidal siamese twins... It's funny sad, scary, all at the same time, and who cares which one wins, because, it's just fun to watch, even if the action is a bit slow./too many analogies.
I agree up to a certain point. The other factors do make a difference and 1.3mp camera phone can take better pictures than a 2.0mp phone. But when Samsung starts shipping their 5 megapixel phones, you can be pretty sure that the difference will be enough to trump most of the other factors.
I just wish I could buy a decent phone, bling aside, I'm from the school of thought that, if you buy a camera phone, you get a crappy camera, and crappy phone. If your lucky, they throw in a crappy mp3 player, or pda. It's to the point now, that the cell phone manufactureres stopped engineering phones and started engineering bling. How bout a damn speaker phone feature that I can hear over the road noise in my car? It is after all a MOBILE phone.. right?
I'm sorry how is this a troll? My understanding of trolling is intentionally posting something to illicit negative responses. Although I got a negative response, I'm unsure what I posted that got one. Also in the case of a trolling modifier, shouldn't there be at least a few responses indicating it was taken negatively? I saw none of that. Just modded down to zero for no apparent reason.
Apparently I pissed off someone who works at wall-mart?
Yeah, I like the Dune style kill bot Idea better. Perfect for hostage situations, or say, cave searching in Afghanistan. I think it'll be a few years before we can fit the necessary electronics on something small enough to crawl through rubble to use them for search and rescue. Or small enough to be inconspicuous, yet have powerful enough radio transmission abilities to send data back, or even store that data for later sending when in range.
For now, Bird, and Rat sized bots for flying, and crawling respectively should be the main focus as there's an aweful lot we can do with that before focusing on insect sized stuff.
My idea for a "sim-mart" game, replete with bouncing smiley faces knocking prices down, white trash beating their kids in the aisles, and ra-ra sessions in the back room would probably go over great!! There could even be sub games, like "spot the psycho" in the sporting goods gun section.
Yes, a vast right wing conspiracty to save myself a few words, hoping that people won't get hung up on the semantics.
Voting for != creating the bill by the way.
NSF net was not the last or most important step in "creating the internet as we know it today".
Private developers, individuals, colleges, etc, etc. Had much more to do with the internet as we know it. If people were still using pine, and text browsers, it never would have caught on with the unwashed masses. Nerds would have stuck with it. For their star trek news groups, and ascii porn, but most folks? Forget about it.
We can thank guys like Eric Biner, and Marc Andressen for the internet we have today.
Let's dissect "took the initiative to create," shall we?
The term "take the initiative" means: Begin a task or plan of action, as in The boss was on vacation when they ran out of materials, so Julie took the initiative and ordered more. This term uses initiative in the sense of "the power to originate something," a usage dating from the late 1700s. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=take% 20the%20initiative
Within that defenition is the defenition of the word initiative in the sense of the term. "Take the initiative"
I highlighted the relevant words for you...
He didn't create it, invent it, OR originate it. He got his name on a few bills that may have greased the wheels a bit. That's all.
Bad choice of words? Man, I'd say. Although I'd like to know what his intended meaning was. Because in the context of the speech he was obviously trying to take credit for something... Man... what a tool he was.
Do you mean intel or M$? Because AMD is no longer a minor threat to arrogantly ignore anymore. And AMD vs. Intel is defenitely a David and Goliath story in technology if ever there was one.
And ironically enough, the anti-trust suits against M$ have clarified the laws that are making it possible for AMD to slap Intel around in court in their anti-trust case.
Anti-MS types always crack me up with their stifling innovation arguments, while simultaneously jumping on any bandwagon that pokes a stick at Microsoft. Regardless of whether or not the people holding the stick are just as evil.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't withhold evidence, you can refuse to testify against yourself and that's it. I could be wrong on this, but if the 5th included physical evidence, people would be posthumously excluding their DNA based on the 5th amendment as well...
Then we'd have no CSI. And we'd still have Enron..
LOL, nnnneeeeeedddddssssss... hehe. ahhh, good times.
We needses our moneyses. We Looooovees our moneys. Yesssss...*GOLEM* Nasty little citizenses. Nasty little businesses.. Give us our precioussss... *GOLEM*
That'll never happen bud, because if it doesn't give the results they want (whatever those may be), We have to act on it either way.
For example if it turns out that all the emissions we produce are of negligable impact on the atmosphere, and our climate, as compared to what the earth naturally produces as a result of volcanic venting, eruptions, etc., we have to determine if it's a natural climatic cycle of some kind, or if we are doing something else to cause it. Will the cycle eventually reverse itself? Will it reverse iteslf before we have to evacuate our cities?
Then if we discover that the poles are shifting slowly, or it's a natural phenomenon, do we want to interfere? That would really be a conundrum for the envirnmentallists wouldn't it?
If it turns out we do have a negligable effect on the climate, we have to do something NOW!! And let's face it, there's too much money to be made on the way to hurry the process up. The world collectively is like an old fart getting out of bed when it comes to dealing with major problems.... we always need one more cup of coffee before we "get to that"..
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Sounds like the only game-based movie that I've heard of that stuck to the plot.
I disagree with the article completely. I think the problem with game based movies is that they don't stick to the plot points that made the game interesting in the first place.
Take doom for example, They changed it from scientists finding an ancient civilization on mars, studying their culture, and religion, and accidentally opening a gateway to hell, to finding an ancient civilization on mars, back engineering their technology, and creating monsters via genetic engineering. A sort of a resident evil on mars, However they kept all the references to the gates of hell opening, they didn't ditch the pentagrams, or any of that stuff. etc.
The reason hollywood can't make a decent game movie is identical to the reason they can't really make any movies that are very good anymore. They have completely lost touch with what people want.
The main flaw with the article is that if people felt that watching game movies was like looking over someone's shoulder in the arcade, they wouldn't go to see them. There wouldn't have been enough people who have seen it, to come back with a "well that sucked verdict" in the first place. People want to see them. They want to see or perhaps eveng get deeper into the plot line of their favorite game.
The sad truth is that Hollywood is out of ideas, out of touch with society, and couldn't write a decent script even if they had ideas and were in touch. They check popularity ratings of games and books, and base movies off of them. Most of the time, wrecking what attracted people to the game or movie in the first place.
There are a few exceptions to the rule, but too few and far between. Gone are the days when guys would get an inspiration, pitch it, focus group it, get an awesome writing team on it, and give the people something that entertained them, and all that for a reasonable amount of money.
I agree, with so many devices with built in wireless g adapters, it would be foolhardy to buy anything until after a standard is ratified and proven to be flawlessly backward compatible.
As much of a fan as I am of the new hotness, I don't think I'll be giving up old and busted anytime soon in this respect. At least not in my place of business.
It's already too easy for the IT guy to catch hell for stuff in the office without manufacturers delivering unpolished products. Problem is with this kind of thing, is when an order comes down from higher up to implement the new hotness without regards to it's standards compliance, your kinda screwed. I could give significantly less than one shit about the gaming considerations. In my opinion it's downright irresponsible to release products at this point. I Just hope that the devices that are being released can be brought into standards compliance once it has been ratified, by a firmware update.
"Let's beta test this product, but make people pay for it" is what this amounts to..
oooOOOOOoooo, the whole thing is the worm... /obscure
No, actually I'm saying that I was running firefox, with google preview, and the google toolbar with pagerank, and let me see, I think I had a weather extension that loaded in the status bar. I may have had one more in there, but I don't remember for sure, as it's been a while since I ran it.
,ie7 and opera on them, compare the features of the "pristine" browsers, and post benchmarks of the entire process.... or I could leave that up to someone who's job it is to do so, and have a beer instead....
In IE I was running stumble upon, and the new google toolbar beta, which I love due to it's bookmarks feature.
At any rate, it was not an even comparison, and I did make that disclaimer. Thank you for taking note of it..
I'm sorry if I offended you by being honest about my browsing experiences, next time I'll buy three brand new machines, install windows on them patch em up, then put naked versions of firefox
Oh look, it's miller time.
Sweet, I'll check it out. I did not know that. Perhaps it will be the best of both worlds.
Hmm, I just did the acid2 test in both MSIE 7 and Firefox. NEITHER passed it. MS's background is red with a vague happy face shape over on the left side, and although firefox doesn't have the background the image is still all discombobulated.
I've been running beta2 for months now and it actually seems to work better than the previous versions by a long shot. Not nearly as many problems with loading content that has traditionally given IE problems.
The tabbed browsing has a few advantages over firefox's and a few features are yet missing that firefox's tabbed browsing had from it's earliest incarnation. Of course beta 1 of firefox was based off of a heavily tested and proven codebase, and much of IE7 has been a complete rewrite.
It would be nice to right click and "open in new tab" now and then, a feature that is glaringly absent. However I do like the new layout, it took me a while to get used to the fact that the standard button layout was gone, and there was nothing I could do about it, but once I got used to it, it worked well, probably more efficient than my previous surfing experiences. However, there should be an option to use the standard web controls that people have used since the stone age of the world wide web, as my wife, being a neophyte, hates it, and refuses to get used to it. And she cant use firefox on her web applications her work provides because firefox doesn't like cold fusion, so she sort of has to. It would be nice if she could use the familiar interface.
It also seems to load pages much faster than previous versions of IE, and dare I say it *gasp* firefox. One of the first things I tested, out of curiosity. Of course these tests were not scientifically conducted, and results can changed based on connection, and host bandwidth, client bandwidth, etc. etc. but it's competetive in that area.
Prior to downloading the beta, I was getting sick of firefox, and hadn't been having a very good experience with it for a while. Probably because of an extension I loaded or something else completely unrelated to the sacred browser itself, but it seemed to be a resource hog. I have heard there were fixes, and I applied them, but my browsing experience continued to suck. And I was considering buying opera. I figured I'd try ie7 before I went that route since I was considering a change anyway, and so far, nothing has been bad enough to chase me off. I'll continue testing it. However I'll probably still buy opera if they don't add a few features and refine a few they don't already have.
And to the guys at MS, why not make it acid2 compliant? While your at the drawing board, might as well just make the necessary adjustments. One less thing to be critisized over at least, and I doubt it would require huge amounts of sweeping changes.
Ok thats enough of that, your messing with our swamp thing fantasies.
Rich golfers are spending stupid amounts of money on crap they don't need? *Gasp* *Shock* how is this news worthy?
Man, that would play hell with my allergies. I guess I'm not vacationing there any time soon.
I notice that neither of you thus far, have provided sources for your hanford information. I heard of the employee compensation program, but nothing of animal benefits or problems within the reserve. There are watchdog groups that did a lot of complaining early on, but as of late most of them are quiet. There's a lot of information on hanfords enrichment operations, and the waste produced from energy production, but almost nothing of the waste from their bomb making operations.
Goodbye Africa, Russians will soon be making a mint selling exotic hunting trips to bag 4 eyed bears, and boars with an arrays of tusks down thier backs. Oh, and Fishing trips for 3 eyed trout of springfield fame!
I cant wait till they start selling mutant bear rugs on ebay.
In other news: Dvorak advocates freezing hell with peltier coolers, and genetic engineering of flying pigs.
WinAMD, or even better, linAMD, just doesn't have the same ring to it as wintel.
/too many analogies.
Oh well, never too fond of either companies business practices.
I don't know which hi-tech corporate quarrel I like best, there are so many that evoke such varied emotional responses.
AMD vs. Intel, great I've always been a fan of the underdog, but AMD has had their day in the sun coming for a long time.
I do however find it ironic that Microsoft and Intel are all slings and arrows these days.. As both companies still depend on each-other to a degree.
One one hand it's Better than a soap opera, like 2 drunk hillbilly brothers shooting at each-ther over who gets the last lucky lager. Or ex-lovers shooting the evil eye at eachother from across the technical landscape. Or suicidal siamese twins... It's funny sad, scary, all at the same time, and who cares which one wins, because, it's just fun to watch, even if the action is a bit slow.
Yeah, that's more of a pizza and xbox feeling to me... Not sad.
I agree up to a certain point. The other factors do make a difference and 1.3mp camera phone can take better pictures than a 2.0mp phone. But when Samsung starts shipping their 5 megapixel phones, you can be pretty sure that the difference will be enough to trump most of the other factors.
I just wish I could buy a decent phone, bling aside, I'm from the school of thought that, if you buy a camera phone, you get a crappy camera, and crappy phone. If your lucky, they throw in a crappy mp3 player, or pda. It's to the point now, that the cell phone manufactureres stopped engineering phones and started engineering bling. How bout a damn speaker phone feature that I can hear over the road noise in my car? It is after all a MOBILE phone.. right?
I'm sorry how is this a troll? My understanding of trolling is intentionally posting something to illicit negative responses. Although I got a negative response, I'm unsure what I posted that got one. Also in the case of a trolling modifier, shouldn't there be at least a few responses indicating it was taken negatively? I saw none of that. Just modded down to zero for no apparent reason. Apparently I pissed off someone who works at wall-mart?
Yeah, I like the Dune style kill bot Idea better. Perfect for hostage situations, or say, cave searching in Afghanistan. I think it'll be a few years before we can fit the necessary electronics on something small enough to crawl through rubble to use them for search and rescue. Or small enough to be inconspicuous, yet have powerful enough radio transmission abilities to send data back, or even store that data for later sending when in range.
For now, Bird, and Rat sized bots for flying, and crawling respectively should be the main focus as there's an aweful lot we can do with that before focusing on insect sized stuff.
My idea for a "sim-mart" game, replete with bouncing smiley faces knocking prices down, white trash beating their kids in the aisles, and ra-ra sessions in the back room would probably go over great!! There could even be sub games, like "spot the psycho" in the sporting goods gun section.
Linux Penguine to Real Networks: "Buffer this, biatch!"
Yes, a vast right wing conspiracty to save myself a few words, hoping that people won't get hung up on the semantics.
Voting for != creating the bill by the way.
NSF net was not the last or most important step in "creating the internet as we know it today".
Private developers, individuals, colleges, etc, etc. Had much more to do with the internet as we know it. If people were still using pine, and text browsers, it never would have caught on with the unwashed masses. Nerds would have stuck with it. For their star trek news groups, and ascii porn, but most folks? Forget about it.
We can thank guys like Eric Biner, and Marc Andressen for the internet we have today.
Invent, Create. Tomato, Tomahto.
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Let's dissect "took the initiative to create," shall we?
The term "take the initiative" means:
Begin a task or plan of action, as in The boss was on vacation when they ran out of materials, so Julie took the initiative and ordered more. This term uses initiative in the sense of "the power to originate something," a usage dating from the late 1700s.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=take
Within that defenition is the defenition of the word initiative in the sense of the term. "Take the initiative"
from thesaurus.com:
Main Entry: create Part of Speech: verb Definition: develop Synonyms: actualize, author, beget, build, coin, compose, conceive, concoct, constitute, construct, contrive, design, devise, discover, dream up, effect, erect, establish, fabricate, fashion, father, forge, form, formulate, found, generate, hatch, imagine, initiate, institute, invent, invest, make, occasion, organize, originate, parent, perform, plan, procreate, produce, rear, set up, shape, sire, spawn, start
I highlighted the relevant words for you... He didn't create it, invent it, OR originate it. He got his name on a few bills that may have greased the wheels a bit. That's all.
Bad choice of words? Man, I'd say. Although I'd like to know what his intended meaning was. Because in the context of the speech he was obviously trying to take credit for something... Man... what a tool he was.
Do you mean intel or M$? Because AMD is no longer a minor threat to arrogantly ignore anymore. And AMD vs. Intel is defenitely a David and Goliath story in technology if ever there was one.
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And ironically enough, the anti-trust suits against M$ have clarified the laws that are making it possible for AMD to slap Intel around in court in their anti-trust case.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/02/amd_subpo
Anti-MS types always crack me up with their stifling innovation arguments, while simultaneously jumping on any bandwagon that pokes a stick at Microsoft. Regardless of whether or not the people holding the stick are just as evil.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't withhold evidence, you can refuse to testify against yourself and that's it. I could be wrong on this, but if the 5th included physical evidence, people would be posthumously excluding their DNA based on the 5th amendment as well...
Then we'd have no CSI. And we'd still have Enron..
LOL, nnnneeeeeedddddssssss... hehe. ahhh, good times.
We needses our moneyses. We Looooovees our moneys. Yesssss...*GOLEM* Nasty little citizenses. Nasty little businesses.. Give us our precioussss... *GOLEM*
That'll never happen bud, because if it doesn't give the results they want (whatever those may be), We have to act on it either way. For example if it turns out that all the emissions we produce are of negligable impact on the atmosphere, and our climate, as compared to what the earth naturally produces as a result of volcanic venting, eruptions, etc., we have to determine if it's a natural climatic cycle of some kind, or if we are doing something else to cause it. Will the cycle eventually reverse itself? Will it reverse iteslf before we have to evacuate our cities? Then if we discover that the poles are shifting slowly, or it's a natural phenomenon, do we want to interfere? That would really be a conundrum for the envirnmentallists wouldn't it? If it turns out we do have a negligable effect on the climate, we have to do something NOW!! And let's face it, there's too much money to be made on the way to hurry the process up. The world collectively is like an old fart getting out of bed when it comes to dealing with major problems.... we always need one more cup of coffee before we "get to that"..